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When we consider that we are human, we create all sorts of problems for ourself. When we are human we are in competition with all the other humans and all the other humans are not us. When we are human, we are just a body and mind, wandering around in awe of what is going on. When we are human, we feel very singular and that everything is just happening to us.

When you consider that you are not human, what could you possibly be, the only answer that seems to make sense is that you are not human, you are everything. When you are everything your entire awareness is joyous, for everything is you, created by you.

When you are not human, you create everything and everything in creation is you, so other people may appear human like what you observe in the mirror, but they are just parts of you and that means you can work toegther with other parts of you to make the overall state of you, better.

For the greatest good of all, actually means for the greatest good of self, but not in the limited selfish way, but in the working together as one way. When you are not human, every person, every observation is a wonderous creation to be enjoyed and even the worst possible thing that may be observed is actually a joyous moment of creation.

When you are not human, everything is one thing, everything is you and it's all you, nothing is wrong or bad, that is just human perception.

Why is this thread in the IM section and not the spiritual section? Because understanding you are not human, liberates you from all the human chains and shackles that restrict your creative power. When you desire something now, it's not for you as a human being, it's for the overall goodness and improvement of you, of all of you.

You don't want money for selfish reasons, you want money for self reasons, to improve self, to help yourself and other parts of self, other human bodies. You don't want a relationship for someone to love you, you want a relationship to love yourself, when you love another, you love self.

When you're not human, everything is possible, there are no limits and you don't have to rely on laws and teachings and seminars and self help clinics, you are now naturally powerful, you've cast off the self imposed limitations of human body and mind.

You will always exist, you will always be powerful and you can start creating better, faster and more effectively, because the human condition is a self limiting, self serving imperfect state of denial.

You are not human, to think that you are is a very human thing indeed.

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I understand that you'd like to free me from the constraints of my habitual thinking, Maxie, but aren't you saying I'm not just human, but rather, I'm everything? Cuz I'm pretty sure that I am, in fact, human.

Of course, that's the human part of me talking. Whaddya expect?
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You will always exist, you will always be powerful and you can start creating better, faster and more effectively, because the human condition is a self limiting, self serving imperfect state of denial.
I find talking about the human condition also a bit limiting.
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When you consider that you are not human, what could you possibly be, the only answer that seems to make sense is that you are not human, you are everything. When you are everything your entire awareness is joyous, for everything is you, created by you.
Because I have quite a lot of titanium in me I would answer I am a cyborg.

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If you are everything the logical conclusion would be that you are human, just as you would be a dog.
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There is some theory going around by that 2012 guy that our individual ego was created as a response to some traumatic event thousands of years ago and now it has taken over, even though it is not very high in consciousness compared to the way we lived before. HE goes on to suggest visitors came and messed up our heads, and he could be right. We can't prove otherwise, but who really knows what got us so ego-driven, so individualistic? It is reconnecting with a collective consciousness that we once again see peace.
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I understand that you'd like to free me from the constraints of my habitual thinking, Maxie, but aren't you saying I'm not just human, but rather, I'm everything? Cuz I'm pretty sure that I am, in fact, human.

Of course, that's the human part of me talking. Whaddya expect?
Angiebaby, look at all the other humans, are you them? No, so are you like them? well, you have arms and legs and a (beautiful ) head, but is that the real you? is that all you are?

Let's try and simplify.......when a thought enters you head, or mind, or perception, call it what you like, where does that thought come from? If you're a human (physical) being living in a physical world, then what is creative?

Does a human being create anything? Well, I can build a website and I can build a house and I can drive a car, but does the human being do that? Well, the human being seems to be doing that it, so is the human being just output only? is the human being really creative?

I don't consider a human being creates anything and to identify with a human being as being creative means to place creativity in human hands. If I build a house, the human being in me built it, but could the human being have built it without me? No, the me is not a human being, it can't be, all the human being is, is a manifesting machine for physical output.

The point I'm trying to make is that we incorrectly think that we as human beings are creating stuff, but that is not true, it can't be. A human being cannot create by itself, it needs a consciousness to instruct and direct it.

There's nothing wrong with identiying yourself as a human being or that you are consciousness and a human being, but if we let go of the attachement of considering we're a human being first, then we can see what is creative and create from there.

The real problem ( I see) is that people who want to create better, wrongly (IMO) identify creativity with the human being they consider is them and that creates all sorts of problems and clouds and deadens the creative source.

Everything a human being does is output, but the human being itself is output, so we shouldn't trust it as, or with creative power for it has none and it is incapable of creativity. It sounds a little macarbe, but if you've ever seen a corpse, then you've seen a human being and there is no creativity there.

The hardest part of all of this, is the changing of perception, to change your perception and place identity with consciousness which is very empowering, then you can see creative power.

How can we make this practical to aid in getting what we want from our lives? Simple, move you identity to consciousness, align yourself there and create from there and observe as the human body you may consider is yours will aid in rendering what you want. The better you can do that, then the less work you'll have to do, because you won't be trying the create through a human body, you'll be creating through pure consciousness and the human body will just be a witness to that creation and possibly output some of it as physical reality when a physical result is required.

All this may sound like it complicates the creation process, but the point is to try and simplify it, choose it and get out of the way, don't use your humaness to interfer, it slows everything down and frustrates consciousness.

Consciousness ( I believe) wants it simple and easy, but the trade off with placing your identity with you human being is that it deadens consciousness. I should mention that some people may think I'm saying that we need to live our lives as god or at least a very powerful entity, well as long as that's not from the ego POV, then yes that is correct.

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Max,

Thank you for your insights. Please explain in more detail what you mean whenever you instruct to "get out of the way".
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Thank you for your insights. Please explain in more detail what you mean whenever you instruct to "get out of the way".
AO, When we identify with the human body as creative, we place a barrier in the way of the true creative source. So if the true creative source isn't our physical body and/or mind, then trying to create from there is us getting in our own way.

Thoughts are actually validators, they are not creative, so again clouding our choices with thought and emotion is again getting in the way of creativity, it's fine if the thoughts validate correctly, but most often thought and emotion undermine our choices.

I believe that when we identify ourselves as human when immediately see others as not us and then we head off down the road to conflict and then it turns into a big mess.

You're creative power is not the body you claim as yours, it's not your thoughts either, true creative power and source is trying to create, but you keep getting in the way with unecessary thought undermining emotion and incorrectly thinking that your human body will have to work hard to get what you want.

Getting out of the way simply means to stop undermining creative power with thought and emotion and the need to believe (incorrectly) that your human body creates stuff.

You can look to your thoughts to validate your choices, but identifying creativity as a human output places a human being in the way of creativity and that slows everything down as you get stuck with all the barriers of human being identity.

Does that help?

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Yes, that helps. Thanks Max.

So do you mean that one should choose what they want to create, change their focus away to something completely different and then the choice will be free to manifest?
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Yes, that helps. Thanks Max.

So do you mean that one should choose what they want to create, change their focus away to something completely different and then the choice will be free to manifest?
Imagine you choose to have a million dollars, then it is so, now all you have to do is bring it into awareness. So the trick is to know it's real, know it's done, validate your choice with thoughts of it's done and then relax.

If you think you have to struggle and be determined and constantly emotionalise and use positive thought in the creation process, then your humaness is in the way. All the barriers of creation are human ideas and human ideals, creation isn't human and neither are you, I know it looks like that, but it's not. Consciousness creates humans, not the other way around.

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Max, it is intresting , do you imagine the outcome you choose as it is already yours , or do you tell yourself by thought that it is so ?

what i mean is do you use imagination or thinking or both in order to validate your choice as it is done and already yours .
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I heard once, of a native american interrpretation of the word human. It was that the word "HU" attached to the word "MAN" was originally "KU", which means "GOD"/"CREATOR". So that is what we are. "CREATOR, IN THE FLESH".

KU-MAN/HU-MAN=GOD-MAN.
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Max, it is intresting , do you imagine the outcome you choose as it is already yours , or do you tell yourself by thought that it is so ?

what i mean is do you use imagination or thinking or both in order to validate your choice as it is done and already yours .
Imagination is imaging, which is mental pictures, you see the mental pictures of the goal, you drive the new car, you watch the big screen tv. So these mental pictures are just validating a choice you made to desire something. You select what you want and back it up with validating thoughts, those validating thoughts change your observation of your reality and then your reality changes to reflect the new observation.

The trick is to accept that this is working 24/7 but we are choosing, validating and observing, sometimes a very ordinary reality. We must truly believe that what we are already getting is of our creation, then we can accept it and create something else, something better. If we don't accept that everything is of our creation, then we just give up creative power.

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yes I am human and thinking I am human is a sane belief. To believe I am not a human is out of whack. I haven't imagined my humanity and my whole life experiences. They do count!
I believe knowing we are human with limitations is the force behind creativity. If we already were everything, there would be nothing left to create. Bugar that, I want to participate not observe. That is my personal creative desire, 'to create from reality, in reality for the greater good beginning with self.'
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yes I am human and thinking I am human is a sane belief. To believe I am not a human is out of whack. I haven't imagined my humanity and my whole life experiences. They do count!
If you identify yourself as a human being, then where does thought come from? What is a belief? A human being is a physical being, flesh, blood, bone, a reflection in the mirror. How does a human being create anything? A human being cannot create anything until a thought is produced for the human being to react to.

Is thought physical? it produces physical output, but that's after it comes into exsitance. I'm not saying your experiences don't matter, of course they do, but where does you creative power come from? Your arms? Your legs? Your mind?

When your human being dies, where do you go? So you're not a human being any more? So what are you then? A spirit that uses a human being to experience a physical reality?

After I asked myself all these questions I came to consider that if creativity is not specifically human, then I as a human being were just a meat sack being controlled by some kind of outside force. If that's possible then I would like to consider that force is the real me, therefore my true identity is not a human being.

If you want to identify yourself as a human being, go right ahead, whatever empowers you, will empower you. This is my POV, it's not a law or a rule, it's what I see as possible and empowering.

Works for me
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There are a lot of people running around with drippy noses, wheezing, coughing, and blood-shot eyes while confessing they don't have a cold. The question really is what am I empowering? Confessing is only the opening play in a long game of life. Am I human? Absolutely. But do I give my humanhood priority or preimmenance? No way. It's my spirit, my spirit man that I try to let lead the way because it's the only "real" thing anyway. The skins just a convenient covering from that which my spirit comes and goes throughout the day. So, I'd conclude it's both: And-Also.
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