First person view or third person view

[akbarhome]

Hi,

I am new here. Welcome me!!!! I am using visualization to achieve what I want (LOA). But reading many books about this make me confuse.

Some says, you should imagine you are sitting in theatres and seeing ideal scenario on big screen. You watch it like you watch movie. (3rd person view, dynamic image)

Some says, you should make ideal picture. Round it with white color then fill it with shining white color. (3rd person view, static image)

Some says, you should visualize as you experience your self. (first person view)

What is your suggestion?

Thank you.

[Iksander]

First person ALWAYS - first person puts you IN the state desired; whereas third person is just LOOKING AT the state desired (the difference between test driving that car and just staring at it in a magazine).

I do find 3rd person to be useful though, I generally create the scene in 3rd person first to get a feel for how I want it to play out - then I dive in first person to really 'feel it'.

[Old Soul]

Some says, you should visualize as you experience your self. (first person view)

I do this one very often, I live iit in my visualisation

[torilink]

always 1st person.

I don't visualize a stack of money - I visualize money in my hands. I don't see a new car, I imagine my hands on the steering wheel of that car. I don't see a brand new home, I imagine myself within that home, using my hands to open doors to rooms - and so on.

I don't visualize wealth, I assume a state of wealth within my imagination.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by akbarhome

Hi,

I am new here. Welcome me!!!! I am using visualization to achieve what I want (LOA). But reading many books about this make me confuse.

What is your suggestion?

Thank you.

AB, Welcome you then!

You have to be in the picture, to be in the picture, but through your own eyes. So as you look to the world now, out through your eyes, that's how you exist, so that's how you must exist as you desire.

However you see your life now is the way to see your life with the things you desire in it.

Max

[akbarhome]

100% says first person view. Okay.... thank you.

[Lychee]

I don't think it matters as long as you see the desired outcome and feel the emotions that go along with it.

[jerome]

That's a question I have always wondered about but never found a concrete answer to.

You'll find people who endorse one or the other or both.

Personally I feel that the best way to visualize is to imagine the desired result as if you were living it in real life. So I imagine seeing it with my own eyes.

Don't forget that sight is only part of the visualization. If you can, try to imagine what it would smell like, what sounds would be associated with this experience, how would it feel to the touch etc.

To use a Star trek analogy, pretend you're on the holodeck experiencing one of their simulated realities. That's how I see it.

Good luck.

[MrBig]

Originally Posted by akbarhome

What is your suggestion?

Be yourself. What others say may or may not apply to you. We are all different. If you have tried different visualization methods and they work for you, go with it. If they don’t work for you, let go, don’t be attached to certain techniques just because some expert says that they work.

There is no right or wrong way of doing this. Try different things and find what works for you. If it does not work, it does not work, it is not because you are doing something wrong.

P.S. Glad to see you here. Welcome!

[Acting Like Godot]

It works in 3rd person, but it's better in 1st person. Also, although you will have a primary mode of sensing the world (in the majority of human beings, it's visual; in the others, it's auditory; for a much smaller group, it's the other senses), you should involve all the other senses.

In other words, although the word is "visualise", you do not just "visualise". Throw in image, colour, movement, sound, texture, temperature, emotion, everything.

To understand how this works, take a recent memory and recreate it. A meal with someone else is useful. Recreate all of the following:

1. the person's face
2. your conversation with him/her ("hear" the words spoken again)
3. the physical environment (room, furniture, colour of walls etc
4. the food on your plate (every type of food, its colour)
5. the taste of the food (each type)
6. the sensation of chewing
7. the smell of the food
8. the sensation of food moving down your throat

After doing this, you will know how to extend this kind of visualisation. As practice, take the same scene now, and warp it big-time. This is just for practice. For example:

9. replace the food with the food you'd rather be eating
10. change the conversation. Make the person say what you'd rather hear,
11. strip out the decor, replace with your preferred surroundings. (Dinner on a luxury yacht? Or in a high-end restaurant on the 56th storey with a beautiful view of the city?)
12. Put in your own preferred background music. Or bring in your favourite band to play live for you.
13. throw in a waiter specially devoted to serving your table
14. if the restaurant is too crowded, get half the people to leave

Etc. Main thing is to make the scene as "realistic" as possible. Fill in as much as you can, although if you're not very good at this, you'll not be able to do that much. Doesn't matter, just do what you can, you'll get better with practice.

[unwiser]

In first person you can tie your emotions to the intended result. thats where the magic happens. In third person you are just a bystander watching

[torilink]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

It works in 3rd person, but it's better in 1st person. Also, although you will have a primary mode of sensing the world (in the majority of human beings, it's visual; in the others, it's auditory; for a much smaller group, it's the other senses), you should involve all the other senses.

In other words, although the word is "visualise", you do not just "visualise". Throw in image, colour, movement, sound, texture, temperature, emotion, everything.

To understand how this works, take a recent memory and recreate it. A meal with someone else is useful. Recreate all of the following:

1. the person's face
2. your conversation with him/her ("hear" the words spoken again)
3. the physical environment (room, furniture, colour of walls etc
4. the food on your plate (every type of food, its colour)
5. the taste of the food (each type)
6. the sensation of chewing
7. the smell of the food
8. the sensation of food moving down your throat

After doing this, you will know how to extend this kind of visualisation. As practice, take the same scene now, and warp it big-time. This is just for practice. For example:

9. replace the food with the food you'd rather be eating
10. change the conversation. Make the person say what you'd rather hear,
11. strip out the decor, replace with your preferred surroundings. (Dinner on a luxury yacht? Or in a high-end restaurant on the 56th storey with a beautiful view of the city?)
12. Put in your own preferred background music. Or bring in your favourite band to play live for you.
13. throw in a waiter specially devoted to serving your table
14. if the restaurant is too crowded, get half the people to leave

Etc. Main thing is to make the scene as "realistic" as possible. Fill in as much as you can, although if you're not very good at this, you'll not be able to do that much. Doesn't matter, just do what you can, you'll get better with practice.

very good tutorial on visualization, can I borrow it??

[fascinoma]

I have trouble imagining something I haven't seen before, so I would look through magazines and catalogs for things I wanted, and then make a big collage out of it, then use that collage as part of my visualization... I'd put myself in the center of the collage.