Articulating the Variables of LOA...

[decterlove]

I could probably wade through all the threads on this forum and find some satisfying answers to my ongoing puzzlement regarding manifesting my needs and desires in this life but I choose to start a new thread instead.

I bought the book The Science of Success by James Arthur Ray the other day, one more book in a long line of similar LOA I have read, studied and debated the merits of both internally and with others. I purchased it because it organized the central concepts in an exceptionally clear way.

I read the Mindset chapter tonight and just felt after reading it that what he was suggesting internally regarding making profound changes in our beliefs about our lives and our potential was probably completely impossible for most individuals.

Here's what I noted while taking a hike tonight and thinking about the subject. It seems to be we operate in a wide spectrum of feelings and beliefs both ranging from profound optimism and pleasure to profound pessimism and pain. There just doesn't seem to be any way to get around this fact. I've had an exceptionally stressful couple of days---with multiple issues in multiple arenas being triggered very heavily---and my stress levels have triggered severe depression once again and near total despair over my present conditions in life.

I sense that this constant oscillating polarity highly corresponds with my serotonin levels when I am happy and my cortisol levels when I am stressed. My confusion arises over which state really corresponds directly to greater manifestation abilities.

I have noted dozens of times that amazingly high levels of optimism and "chi flow" (and I'm not bipolar by the way---my moods may fluctuate more than some but less than others...) while improving and supporting highly efficient functionality and optimal interactions with others, etc. often fail completely to produce the REAL RESULTS I am intending at the time. "Vibing high" aka the late Lynn Grabhorn, may indeed produce small scale manifesting energy but quite often fails to provide resolution to the larger issues involved.

Conversely, being terribly depressed and just going through the motions with complete disinterest in the results QUITE OFTEN can suddenly stir up precisely the effects one desperately seeks.

Two simple examples....five years ago, just prior to getting a job I really wanted, I had gotten lost and was late for the interview. I was so depressed at that moment from the ongoing job hunting, that I almost considered not even calling to let them know I was going to be late. I did and I got hired.

Today, in similar desperate straights financially and already a week late in paying my cell phone bill, I just went thru the motions and reposted an ad on Craigslist for some instructional Video professor cds I've been trying to sell for months and I got a call a few hours later.

I'd already almost forgotten even reposting them and the caller said he'd seen a much more complete pack on eBay for less than I was asking for my four sets....I seriously encouraged him to buy the sets on eBay....and he insisted on buying them from me instead and suggested that if I sent them today he would go right over to the nearest Verizon store and deposit half the purchase amount in my phone bill and post the remainder when he received my package. I was still sorta trying to talk him out of the whole thing but he insisted and the deal is now done. A definite Miracle.

I should note that I did pray this morning for some relief and will certainly express thanks again in this manner but prayer, frankly, doesn't seem to be any consistent determinant of results either. It almost seems to be more about being completely indifferent to what ever happens!~~~thank you Angels, anyway!

[dorothy hanna]

I do see what you are saying, but all of that, ROUTINE, may work better for you, as this is your HABIT. It's nice to feel enthusiastic, and just plain good, but if you are in the habit of actually accomplishing things due to a desire to attain a feeling of relief this is probably going to work best for you, at this time.

I kind of do the same thing, although I've been getting better, and better at feeling good more often, and actually getting getting results in my life, as to the manifestation of my ideas and desires, in a tangable way. I think it's because I am practicing doing things and thinking in ways in a better way, because my ultimate goal is to feel good, no matter what is going on around me. I am practicing on a great rebound/recovery rate. Practicing having better thoughts, quite deliberately, in a consistant, and produce good things around me, and for me. It seeems to be working.

These last 8 months of my life, I have felt so much better, and have been getting so much better results in my life, than all my 52 years put together.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by decterlove

I could probably wade through all the threads on this forum and find some satisfying answers to my ongoing puzzlement regarding manifesting my needs and desires in this life but I choose to start a new thread instead.

I bought the book The Science of Success by James Arthur Ray the other day, one more book in a long line of similar LOA I have read, studied and debated the merits of both internally and with others. I purchased it because it organized the central concepts in an exceptionally clear way.

I read the Mindset chapter tonight and just felt after reading it that what he was suggesting internally regarding making profound changes in our beliefs about our lives and our potential was probably completely impossible for most individuals.

Here's what I noted while taking a hike tonight and thinking about the subject. It seems to be we operate in a wide spectrum of feelings and beliefs both ranging from profound optimism and pleasure to profound pessimism and pain. There just doesn't seem to be any way to get around this fact. I've had an exceptionally stressful couple of days---with multiple issues in multiple arenas being triggered very heavily---and my stress levels have triggered severe depression once again and near total despair over my present conditions in life.

I sense that this constant oscillating polarity highly corresponds with my serotonin levels when I am happy and my cortisol levels when I am stressed. My confusion arises over which state really corresponds directly to greater manifestation abilities.

I have noted dozens of times that amazingly high levels of optimism and "chi flow" (and I'm not bipolar by the way---my moods may fluctuate more than some but less than others...) while improving and supporting highly efficient functionality and optimal interactions with others, etc. often fail completely to produce the REAL RESULTS I am intending at the time. "Vibing high" aka the late Lynn Grabhorn, may indeed produce small scale manifesting energy but quite often fails to provide resolution to the larger issues involved.

Conversely, being terribly depressed and just going through the motions with complete disinterest in the results QUITE OFTEN can suddenly stir up precisely the effects one desperately seeks.

Two simple examples....five years ago, just prior to getting a job I really wanted, I had gotten lost and was late for the interview. I was so depressed at that moment from the ongoing job hunting, that I almost considered not even calling to let them know I was going to be late. I did and I got hired.

Today, in similar desperate straights financially and already a week late in paying my cell phone bill, I just went thru the motions and reposted an ad on Craigslist for some instructional Video professor cds I've been trying to sell for months and I got a call a few hours later.

I'd already almost forgotten even reposting them and the caller said he'd seen a much more complete pack on eBay for less than I was asking for my four sets....I seriously encouraged him to buy the sets on eBay....and he insisted on buying them from me instead and suggested that if I sent them today he would go right over to the nearest Verizon store and deposit half the purchase amount in my phone bill and post the remainder when he received my package. I was still sorta trying to talk him out of the whole thing but he insisted and the deal is now done. A definite Miracle.

I should note that I did pray this morning for some relief and will certainly express thanks again in this manner but prayer, frankly, doesn't seem to be any consistent determinant of results either. It almost seems to be more about being completely indifferent to what ever happens!~~~thank you Angels, anyway!

Wow, DL, you like to use big words, big sentances and big paragraphs

For me to aid you in your quest for knowledge and/or enlightenment, please state your request/intention/question in one, maybe two paragraphs.

Seriously, I read your post, but I can't help you unless you dumb it down so I can enjoy it on a level where I feel compelled to assist you.

Your new best friend

Max

[decterlove]

They are as pleasurable to me as my three cups of black tea in the morning!

I'll try tho.....maybe I can dumb it down later!