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Old 07-09-2007, 08:15 PM
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This hit me this weekend.

If ya wanna 'speed' up your manifestation, you're gonna have to see that 'time' does not exist.

Point blank.
Time....does....not....exist.

Everything is Now.

Watch this.
I want bla bla bla.
Do I have it now?
No.
I know that I can manifest it. So I'll manifest it and get it soon.

You have it Now.
I do?
Yeah cause Everything is Now.
Loop that program thru your computer. (Head.)

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Don't try this while trying to levitate off a 15 foot wall, tho Use it level headedly and where you are right now in your evolution.

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It's all about Now!

and choice......
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If ya wanna 'speed' up your manifestation, you're gonna have to see that 'time' does not exist.
Well of course it doesn't.

The past is just memory, and memory is just the movement of electrical impulses across certain neurons in your brain.

The future is just imagination, and imagination is just the movement of electrical impulses across certain neurons in your brain.

As Einstein said: "Time is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
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Yeh, dreams are interesting. The experiences are just as real and vivid as the 'awake' state, yet we can dream hours and days of experiences, in 'no time'.
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Now we're getting somewhere. Well stated IFT and TL and spot on IFT! (IFT, TL and MP freed the first of us - don't forget your shades )

Time is the peskest issue of all in the manifestation process. We believe we have it now, but we see we don't, then we say we'll have it in a few weeks and then it manifests or not.

How can we act as if it's real now, when we observe it's not?

That is why time is our enemy. If we can't exist in the past (we don't) and we can't exist in the future (another nonexistant place) then what do we have?........Now, that's all there is, but sometimes there is a time delay, there has to be to maintain the illusion, maintain the peception that we are moving through time.

But there is no time, it's a self imposed illusion, you can even slow time or speed it up, try it, say to yourself, I want this weekend to go really slowly or I want this day to go really fast. Choose it, know it let it go and see what happens at the end of the day or weekend. I was on a 3 day break recently and I tried this and honestly it felt like 7 days had past at the end of it, during the break everything just slowed right down because I chose it, it was great.

Okay, back to time. If we only exist in the moment, then everything we require must already exist there too, if we can never exist in the future how can anything we require exist there? It can't and it doesn't. So to say we have something when we perceive we don't is actually denying the truth, so it's like a self fulfilling lie keeping the truth covered up.

Everything we require exists right now, it has to, there is no other place it can exist. You must not think this, you must know it.

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Now we're getting somewhere. Well stated IFT and TL and spot on IFT! (IFT, TL and MP freed the first of us - don't forget your shades )

Time is the peskest issue of all in the manifestation process. We believe we have it now, but we see we don't, then we say we'll have it in a few weeks and then it manifests or not.

How can we act as if it's real now, when we observe it's not?

That is why time is our enemy. If we can't exist in the past (we don't) and we can't exist in the future (another nonexistant place) then what do we have?........Now, that's all there is, but sometimes there is a time delay, there has to be to maintain the illusion, maintain the peception that we are moving through time.

But there is no time, it's a self imposed illusion, you can even slow time or speed it up, try it, say to yourself, I want this weekend to go really slowly or I want this day to go really fast. Choose it, know it let it go and see what happens at the end of the day or weekend. I was on a 3 day break recently and I tried this and honestly it felt like 7 days had past at the end of it, during the break everything just slowed right down because I chose it, it was great.

Okay, back to time. If we only exist in the moment, then everything we require must already exist there too, if we can never exist in the future how can anything we require exist there? It can't and it doesn't. So to say we have something when we perceive we don't is actually denying the truth, so it's like a self fulfilling lie keeping the truth covered up.

Everything we require exists right now, it has to, there is no other place it can exist. You must not think this, you must know it.

Max

each and every possible possibility is open to you.

you choose.

it is.

you allow it through a combo of belief/knowing and rejecting the false ego perception of your physical senses when you put your trust in your perceptions you are choosing to continue the illusions.
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Imagine a trillion years in the future, anytime in the future. Remove all things. All thought. Would the nothing thats left be any different, or the same, as the nothing that is left if we remove all things, all thought now? And ditto to the past. If someone meditates a trillion years in the future, and realises and experiences the 'void' discussed by 'infinite thoughts', would it be any different than the 'void' meditated on now, or a trillion years in the past?
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each and every possible possibility is open to you.

you choose.

it is.

you allow it through a combo of belief/knowing and rejecting the false ego perception of your physical senses when you put your trust in your perceptions you are choosing to continue the illusions.
Yes.

We don't create with our senses, they validate creation, so we shouldn't really trust them as a source of reality, they validate perception, not creation. If everything starts as choice (a non physical thing) then that is the creative power, everything else is output, so we must align ourselves with choice and do so consistantly.

I choose this now and it is so, nothing else is real.

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Yes.

I choose this now and it is so, nothing is is real.

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Nothing is the only thing that is real, and is present everywhere, always. Nothing...no thing, the reality and source of every thing. Conditioning in our culture demeans it. He's nothing...she's nothing...what are you doing...nothing. Somewhere along the line our culture taught that nothing is to be avoided, that it is detrimental. Yet, to totally understand nothing is the key to everything.
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Nothing is the only thing that is real, and is present everywhere, always. Nothing...no thing, the reality and source of every thing. Conditioning in our culture demeans it. He's nothing...she's nothing...what are you doing...nothing. Somewhere along the line our culture taught that nothing is to be avoided, that it is detrimental. Yet, to totally understand nothing is the key to everything.
I'd have to say that nothing is everything that is not in present moment awareness. If I can't be aware of it, then it doesn't exist, therefore there is no thing outside my awareness.

It's splitting hairs really, but it is important if you want to create stuff ,for if you do, you place it in your awareness right now, the level of resistance to it being in your awareness right now will be evident in it's timely arrival.

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This hit me this weekend.
If ya wanna 'speed' up your manifestation, you're gonna have to see that 'time' does not exist.
Point blank.
Time....does....not....exist.

Everything is Now.
IFT, I have thought about this before and I am still thinking...........I am not opposing what you said but rather discussing more from a different perspective. Dont you think that it really takes time for certain things and bypassing time is easier said than done?

Yes I agree that time is an illusion. Its just a series of moments where each moment comes from " " and goes back to " ". But anything that is matter itself is an illusion and I believe that in this world of illusion, time has to exist to maintain the illusion. This is not denial but thats how the world of illusion is. Just think about it! We choose it NOW to speed up manifestation...and thats all we can do.

What we want is manifested instantly in the world of spirit but in this physical world, it takes time because the physical world and time are subsets of ILLUSION. I have manifested things by making choices. I ask and let go...and later when I get it, I realize I manifested it. However the moment I got was just another moment and nothing else.

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I'd have to say that nothing is everything that is not in present moment awareness. If I can't be aware of it, then it doesn't exist, therefore there is no thing outside my awareness.

It's splitting hairs really, but it is important if you want to create stuff ,for if you do, you place it in your awareness right now, the level of resistance to it being in your awareness right now will be evident in it's timely arrival.

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We are the nothing. The source of form, anything. The source and presence expressed and experienced through human awareness. Infinitethoughts 'habit' description is a good way to describe human awareness. Reality is a totally different state beyond, before humanity, and humanities understanding of things. Where anything can be imagined in an instant, or ended in an instant. Or be kept 'running' in the background.
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Well of course it doesn't.
Right.
When I stop and I'm conscious of it, I too say "Of course time doesn't exist".

BUT.....
I'm seeing that there is an "automatic pilot" somewhere in my mind that see things differently.
I know why there is this "automatic pilot"......to be able to play this game of physicality.

But it's "time" to switch off part of this "automatic pilot".
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Dont you think that it really takes time for certain things and bypassing time is easier said than done?
Right.
Excellent points.
But is it that hard?

Consider that ultimately, Everything is Instantaneous. (This is where you used to live, the Land of Instant Manifestations. Until you came here for a "vacation.")

So here we have a truth, that when you choose something, it is there. Instantly. No questions asked.

BUT.
We don't see this.

Now. Obviously, us not seeing this, is something we've created. If we've created we can uncreate it.

This should be a fascinating thread on uncovering how we've created this.
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Somewhere along the line our culture taught that nothing is to be avoided, that it is detrimental. Yet, to totally understand nothing is the key to everything.
Spoken like a true surf bum.

Lol.........................! ! !
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Now we're getting somewhere.
Hell yeah. Lets keep going.
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Now. Obviously, us not seeing this, is something we've created. If we've created we can uncreate it.
This is the irony here. In the land of illusion, there has to be time but we are trying to uncreate what we created(time) in the land of illusion. But that cannot happen because then the land of illusion will cease to exist. Do you get my point??

So we think we can and I agree with you that on paper it sounds like that but time has to be there and thats how it is. Hmm... what do you think?
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Right.
Excellent points.
But is it that hard?

Consider that ultimately, Everything is Instantaneous. (This is where you used to live, the Land of Instant Manifestations. Until you came here for a "vacation.")

So here we have a truth, that when you choose something, it is there. Instantly. No questions asked.

BUT.
We don't see this.

Now. Obviously, us not seeing this, is something we've created. If we've created we can uncreate it.

This should be a fascinating thread on uncovering how we've created this.
I don't know that anything can be "uncreated" - I think projections fall away because they are illusions and creations are infinate because they are created. or something like that....
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Time is a self imposed resistance factor, we require it like growth and denial to maintain the illusion, the perception. Example: You want a million dollars, but to maintain some kind of acceptable perception, you will envoke a certain amount of time before manifestation and you will also create a further illusion that everyone does that also to validate how your money will manifest.

If time doesn't exist (it doesn't) if there only ever is this moment, then we have to be very careful what we put in that moment, for if it is created instantly (it is) then what you choose is what you get 24/7.

So how can this help us? Realise that time is a validator of resistance and it should be abandoned for it creates all sorts of problems. All the gurus say the same thing 'you must see that you have it now' why do they say this?

Because consciousness manifests everything instantly and time doesn't exist.

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Spoken like a true surf bum.

Lol.........................! ! !
Thats funny!

One thing that stands out to me in the 'Eastern' style of teachings is the 'monkey mind' aspect. How attachment and lack of control, being unable to 'quiet the mind' plays out in our 'lives'.

I notice it a lot in Traditional Indigenous Australian thinking. Traditional Indigenous Australians place enormous value on 'stillness' and 'observing'.
One of the first things they noticed (besides bullets ) about the invading colonists, was their inability to sit still, and the endless stream of problems this created...the monkey mind.

In my surfing travels, I really notice it too. Everyone loves to go to these idillic 'tropical paradises', where they can relaxe, escape the 'rat race'. Where time 'stands still'. And the people that create that paradise, notice the same thing with the 'tourists', running around like 'chooks without a head', creating an endless stream of dramas...monkey mind. Soon, as in Bali, the 'paradise' becomes the rat race, and everyone goes searching for a new one...monkey mind...the beat goes on.

I lived in a town with 200 people for around 20 years, and the same scenario was a constant source of amusement for the 'locals'. Stressed out, pumped up 'holiday makers' getting into all sorts of hilarious dilemmas. I remember going to the city, and really being hit by it. Ants running around in concrete tunnels, chain smoking, chowing on a hot dog, or 'organic sushi roll' sprinting to pay their bills, get to the gym, see the solicitor...have a drink, get some speed, 'cant stop, got deadlines to meet'. Deadlines...dead lines...DEAD lines. What a word to live by!!! Monkey mind.

It strikes me that life, action, creation is supposed to be fun. For me the ability to be able to 'step out', 'sit still', 'observe', is the ability to have control. To enjoy, realise and explore the truth. To be able to understand, uncover, enjoy and exert that truth, and enjoy the 'wisdom' of observation through focused 'creation'. Free of the monkey mind, free of attachment, remembering the truth. I think its where the idea of the movies where the computers take over humanity come from. Losing control of the mind.

Anyway, back to the 'deadlines', We must build anti, anti, missiles to get the oil, to boost profits, to build 'super tanks', to stop the terrorists, to be free to combat global warming, to boost profits to prop up the economy before the next Fed announcement, because the Dax is plunging, and China is booming, so we must up missiles to protect us from China, to boost profits, but must be ahead in the race for Mars, while the Celtics are crumbling, and Brad told Angelina that Arnold said that Anthony Robbins is coming, and Quincy is the special guest, to boost profits, and ephedrine is banned, gotta vote, gold is up, copper's down, Sheik Ali whatever built the worlds biggest diamond encrusted vacuum cleaner, gym fees are up, to boost profits, computers anti virus protection is out of date, love you honey, thats a nice diamond, whats it worth, oops terrorist alert, cancer's on the rise, couple more shootings, sperm count is up today, phone is dead, few more rapes, planes are delayed, no water left, no air left, what about the profits, deadli..........................

See yah, have fun, I'm going surfing.
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Because consciousness manifests everything instantly and time doesn't exist.
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Max, I know we have spoken about this before and may never agree, but its alright .

I believe that

1. You can never identify yourself with Consciousness when you still identify yourself in human form because becoming Consciousness means freeing from this reality a.k.a. end of illusion. The monks and sages and others in search of the truth takes intense practice to identify with Consciousness. I know you might call this denial but for me just the knowledge that we are not really this body but the "I" does not make us one with the "I".

2. I believe that when we become one with Consciousness, we wont NEED to manifest anything because creation is needed only to maintain the illusion. So the question would be who creates all the cars,wealth here. Yes its Consciousness that creates it but in human form and so time has to exist because end of time means end of illusion

The way I see it is, Consciousness created ego consciousness and its the ego consciousness that creates (with the power derived from consciousness). Why do I think so? Because Consciousness would not have intentions to kill, murder, create wars and destroy the earth. From what I understand, the self is the bridge between ego and Consciousness.

3. So why do some things manifest fast and some take more time? I dont know...I am still searching for the answer.

These are just my observations. I dont want to give you the impression that I am here to refute your beliefs. Hey I am not here to argue but to discuss ......just my 2cents.
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Thats funny!

One thing that stands out to me in the 'Eastern' style of teachings is the 'monkey mind' aspect. How attachment and lack of control, being unable to 'quiet the mind' plays out in our 'lives'.

I notice it a lot in Traditional Indigenous Australian thinking. Traditional Indigenous Australians place enormous value on 'stillness' and 'observing'.
One of the first things they noticed (besides bullets ) about the invading colonists, was their inability to sit still, and the endless stream of problems this created...the monkey mind.

In my surfing travels, I really notice it too. Everyone loves to go to these idillic 'tropical paradises', where they can relaxe, escape the 'rat race'. Where time 'stands still'. And the people that create that paradise, notice the same thing with the 'tourists', running around like 'chooks without a head', creating an endless stream of dramas...monkey mind. Soon, as in Bali, the 'paradise' becomes the rat race, and everyone goes searching for a new one...monkey mind...the beat goes on.

I lived in a town with 200 people for around 20 years, and the same scenario was a constant source of amusement for the 'locals'. Stressed out, pumped up 'holiday makers' getting into all sorts of hilarious dilemmas. I remember going to the city, and really being hit by it. Ants running around in concrete tunnels, chain smoking, chowing on a hot dog, or 'organic sushi roll' sprinting to pay their bills, get to the gym, see the solicitor...have a drink, get some speed, 'cant stop, got deadlines to meet'. Deadlines...dead lines...DEAD lines. What a word to live by!!! Monkey mind.

It strikes me that life, action, creation is supposed to be fun. For me the ability to be able to 'step out', 'sit still', 'observe', is the ability to have control. To enjoy, realise and explore the truth. To be able to understand, uncover, enjoy and exert that truth, and enjoy the 'wisdom' of observation through focused 'creation'. Free of the monkey mind, free of attachment, remembering the truth. I think its where the idea of the movies where the computers take over humanity come from. Losing control of the mind.

Anyway, back to the 'deadlines', We must build anti, anti, missiles to get the oil, to boost profits, to build 'super tanks', to stop the terrorists, to be free to combat global warming, to boost profits to prop up the economy before the next Fed announcement, because the Dax is plunging, and China is booming, so we must up missiles to protect us from China, to boost profits, but must be ahead in the race for Mars, while the Celtics are crumbling, and Brad told Angelina that Arnold said that Anthony Robbins is coming, and Quincy is the special guest, to boost profits, and ephedrine is banned, gotta vote, gold is up, copper's down, Sheik Ali whatever built the worlds biggest diamond encrusted vacuum cleaner, gym fees are up, to boost profits, computers anti virus protection is out of date, love you honey, thats a nice diamond, whats it worth, oops terrorist alert, cancer's on the rise, couple more shootings, sperm count is up today, phone is dead, few more rapes, planes are delayed, no water left, no air left, what about the profits, deadli..........................

See yah, have fun, I'm going surfing.

whew.... that wore me out! lol
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Max, I know we have spoken about this before and may never agree, but its alright .

I believe that

1. You can never identify yourself with Consciousness when you still identify yourself in human form because becoming Consciousness means freeing from this reality a.k.a. end of illusion. The monks and sages and others in search of the truth takes intense practice to identify with Consciousness. I know you might call this denial but for me just the knowledge that we are not really this body but the "I" does not make us one with the "I".

2. I believe that when we become one with Consciousness, we wont NEED to manifest anything because creation is needed only to maintain the illusion. So the question would be who creates all the cars,wealth here. Yes its Consciousness that creates it but in human form and so time has to exist because end of time means end of illusion

The way I see it is, Consciousness created ego consciousness and its the ego consciousness that creates (with the power derived from consciousness). Why do I think so? Because Consciousness would not have intentions to kill, murder, create wars and destroy the earth. From what I understand, the self is the bridge between ego and Consciousness.

3. So why do some things manifest fast and some take more time? I dont know...I am still searching for the answer.

These are just my observations. I dont want to give you the impression that I am here to refute your beliefs. Hey I am not here to argue but to discuss ......just my 2cents.
I see where you are coming from with your beliefs about consciousness. My view (unsolicited of course ) is that consciousness projected the ego. Projection is different than creation in a couple important ways, first it is temporal - unlike consciousness, and second, because it is not a creation it is not embued with the same qualities as its creator (creating, perfection, and so on) basically ego is a projection of guilt and all ego based thought stems from guilt and fear because consciousness had a thought of separation.

So that is the ego's job really to act out or be what consciousness cannot be (but could only imagine what it would be like) - imperfect, separate, negative, and so on. And since it (ego) is not imbued with the power of creation or attributes of TRUTH (love, joy, peace) it can only project it's imperfection, need, lack, and its learned experience (misperception) onto the present moment, never can it create as does consciousness.

So, what creates - it is the consciousness at the center, the I AM within me.

When my Ego is no longer the ruler of my being and willingly aligns with consciousness, then that is how we manifest. This is why our beliefs, perceptions, and ego persona all need to be explored, exposed, and evaluated.

We cannot be without Ego/resistance while in this realm, that is true - but we can diminish ego to what it should be, just a container (necessary resistance) that holds consciousness within, keeps each observation point seperate - so that consciousness can play & create.
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Max, I know we have spoken about this before and may never agree, but its alright
AB, not much point if we all agree right?

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Why do I think so? Because Consciousness would not have intentions to kill, murder, create wars and destroy the earth. From what I understand, the self is the bridge between ego and Consciousness.
The interesting thing is that I don't have any intentions to do any of those things, I must be consciousness Consciousness (to me) is perfect and wether it wants to experience the opposite of self (imperfection/this reality) or it's bored and looking for something interesting to do with it's cosmic awesome power, either way the experience must contain everything and it's opposite to justify and maintain the experience. To know thyself one must know the opposite of self. God/Devil, heaven/hell, Neo/Agent Smith, Conscisousness/Physical reality and everything in it.


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So why do some things manifest fast and some take more time? I dont know...I am still searching for the answer.
Ahhh, the million dollar question. The answer is resistance. The past or past experience builds a level of resistance that is brought into the now (present) when thought upon. People say things like "why can't I make a million dollars?" Because you have resistance to it, through the thoughts of the past. "Why can't I find love" Because you have a resistance to it from the past.

The resistance can be thoughts (always of the past) when you remember not getting the million dollars or not being able to find the love you desire. So what you end up doing is observing a past choice/thought where it didn't work out and you transplant that observation into the present, into the now and you continue to not get the money/love/health etc you desire. Like a self fulfilling prophecy of failure.

Things that manifest fast do so because they have no resistance, there is no preconceived thought that observes how you didn't get it before, so there is no barrier. The past wants to invade your now, your present and upset the manifesting process. We must cast off the past, there's nothing there, it can't help us, it only ever really reminds of how something didn't work out. If we could wake up tomorrow and not rememeber any past where we didn't get what we wanted, then maifesting stuff would be a lot easier.

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These are just my observations. I dont want to give you the impression that I am here to refute your beliefs. Hey I am not here to argue but to discuss ......just my 2cents.
You're welcome to believe whatever you like as am I, like I said, where's the challange to perfection if we all agreed.

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1. You can never identify yourself with Consciousness when you still identify yourself in human form because becoming Consciousness means freeing from this reality a.k.a. end of illusion. The monks and sages and others in search of the truth takes intense practice to identify with Consciousness. I know you might call this denial but for me just the knowledge that we are not really this body but the "I" does not make us one with the "I".
I agree with this as long as I clarify some specifics. Unconsciously, we are already joined in Oneness outside the Separation illusion. True Separation cannot actually occur, only illusory projections. Our conscious energy, however, cannot be fully identified with Oneness unless we shed conscious Separation. Your mind cannot serve two masters. Either Oneness or Separation. This constitutes the fundamental Choice.

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The way I see it is creation is an illusion. Everything already exists as a seemless field in the realm of consciousness. What we call manifestation is the result of untying various knots of energy flow which allows Existence to show up in the illusion of Nonexistence, which our reality is. Lack is part of that illusion. Our reality falls somewhere on the continuum of realities that contain the expression of lack. Some to a greater or lesser extent than ours. You see, if you didn't have these knots in your consciousness your will would naturally unfold in the reality before you. Since we are experiencing the thoughtform or role of separated consciousness we have to deal the vast distortion and discrepancy between the One mind, and the ego structure that our portion of the One mind is being filtered through.

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The way I see it is, Consciousness created ego consciousness and its the ego consciousness that creates (with the power derived from consciousness). Why do I think so? Because Consciousness would not have intentions to kill, murder, create wars and destroy the earth. From what I understand, the self is the bridge between ego and Consciousness.
I agree with this. There is actually only one original Ego in my opinion, which you could sort of think of as the god of separation. It reflects itself ad infinitum into many illusory egos which we identify as ourselves most of the time. So just another way of saying murder, wars, and destruction are more expressions of separation, or duality usurping the power of oneness in an illusory framework.

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The ego wants this reality to be real. Desperately bad. It is trying to justify its existence and it does that by making separation as real as it possibly can. So when you commune with your oneness and allow more Existence in the back door (which is manifestation remember), it wants to disguise this unwanted evidence of its unreality as something else. Realities of separation must involve logic and rules because of this. It tries to disguise these "creative acts" as linear events that are natural to this world. This is why manifestations oftentimes seem deceptively natural. These creative acts happen outside time, but to maintain the illusion they are projected into a linear sequence. Then people are tempted to say, "oh its a coincidence". However, alot of the time, this is simply ego talk.
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I agree with this as long as I clarify some specifics. Unconsciously, we are already joined in Oneness outside the Separation illusion. True Separation cannot actually occur, only illusory projections. Our conscious energy, however, cannot be fully identified with Oneness unless we shed conscious Separation. Your mind cannot serve two masters. Either Oneness or Separation. This constitutes the fundamental Choice.
I believe this choice in other words is called SURRENDER - Let go and let god instead of let ego. Sometime most of us do this when we are in situations where we have had enough with ego and we pray for divine intervention - what people call as a Miracle.

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What we call manifestation is the result of untying various knots of energy flow which allows Existence to show up in the illusion of Nonexistence, which our reality is. Lack is part of that illusion.
In other words everything exists by the virtue of energy which can only be converted form one form to another. We see these are object/materials because thats the way it was designed to created illusion/separation.

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I am not sure what you mean by this. There is more than one reality??

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These creative acts happen outside time, but to maintain the illusion they are projected into a linear sequence.
Exactly. Instant manifestation means dissolving the very act of maintaining the projection of linear sequence. So when people say that to manifest instantly you have to uncreate/forget time, its possible only on paper because time has to exist as long as duality exist.
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Ahhh, the million dollar question. The answer is resistance. The past or past experience builds a level of resistance that is brought into the now (present) when thought upon. People say things like "why can't I make a million dollars?" Because you have resistance to it, through the thoughts of the past. "Why can't I find love" Because you have a resistance to it from the past.
True. Removing resistance/subconscious beliefs etc will ensure manifestation and even faster than what we thought........ but that cannot eliminate time itself. I am talking whether instant manifestation is possible.

This moment I make a choice that I now have x dollars in my bank and the next moment it appears in my bank account. - I am not sure if this is possible. The dollars will appear in some moment but when it will exactly appear??? Mystery.
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In other words everything exists by the virtue of energy which can only be converted form one form to another. We see these are object/materials because thats the way it was designed to created illusion/separation.
What I mean is, the misconceptions in our consciousness about how reality works -- the discrepancy between the One Mind and the Ego, are the knots themselves. These are what prevent you from being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent consciously. Correcting these distortions is what spirituality is to me.

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I am not sure what you mean by this. There is more than one reality??
Yes, in a nutshell. All realities exist. Every conceivable configuration of matter and energy and form and function all exist in the continuum of consciousness. However, they are only real if you are below the level of Oneness. All that exists is the Clear Light of Truth. When that is filtered through the ego structure, a refraction occurs and realities of form appear to exist. Some people find it disturbing to think about, but we are literally the figments of something's imagination. These imaginary realities are playing out the ideals of Separation which include but are not limited to: war, greed, particulate matter, individuality, competition, fear, and opposing polarities. The degree to which any of these realities playout the ideals of Separation is basically random.

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Exactly. Instant manifestation means dissolving the very act of maintaining the projection of linear sequence. So when people say that to manifest instantly you have to uncreate/forget time, its possible only on paper because time has to exist as long as duality exist.
I believe it is possible to create instantaneously, but I have never accomplished it myself. I think it would have to involve at least a temporary absorption into Oneness consciously, and then simply choosing the selected reality to become so. The only problem with this is that although joining with the One gives you unlimited power, the desire to use it is inversely proportional to how joined you are, so the likelihood of doing this is slim.

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This is the irony here. In the land of illusion, there has to be time but we are trying to uncreate what we created(time) in the land of illusion. But that cannot happen because then the land of illusion will cease to exist. Do you get my point??
Absolutely.
I see it as a personal thing really. One person may still like the illusion another may simply decided to "speed" it up.
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2. I believe that when we become one with Consciousness,
Get rid of that word when, it's stopping you from becoming one with your own consciousness.
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