Quantum Manifesting.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by absvan

but that cannot eliminate time itself. I am talking whether instant manifestation is possible.

You're talking as if time really exists?


I don't see why there's any problem with manifesting instantly.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Uplift

I notice it a lot in Traditional Indigenous Australian thinking.

See yah, have fun, I'm going surfing.

Yeah, yeah Abbis had their culture completely wiped out, as did Native Americans on their soil.
It's sad to do that to such noble people.

Hey grab a couple of waves for me. Thanks.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

BUT.....
I'm seeing that there is an "automatic pilot" somewhere in my mind that see things differently.
I know why there is this "automatic pilot"......to be able to play this game of physicality.

But it's "time" to switch off part of this "automatic pilot".

I turn it off sometimes too. But you have to appreciate that time is one of our most fundamental illusions. If a person really breaks all the way through it, lots of typical goals that people have become quite meaningless. Eg:

1. planning for an early retirement in 10 years time becomes meaningless.

2. performing very well at work so as to get promoted early next year becomes meaningless

3. exercising regularly so as to lose 5 kg in two months becomes meaningless

I think that if you successfully transcend the illusion of time, the necessary corollary is that you've practically attained enlightenment, and transcended desire as well.

[Uplift]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I turn it off sometimes too. But you have to appreciate that time is one of our most fundamental illusions. If a person really breaks all the way through it, lots of typical goals that people have become quite meaningless. Eg:

1. planning for an early retirement in 10 years time becomes meaningless.

2. performing very well at work so as to get promoted early next year becomes meaningless

3. exercising regularly so as to lose 5 kg in two months becomes meaningless

I think that if you successfully transcend the illusion of time, the necessary corollary is that you've practically attained enlightenment, and transcended desire as well.

Thats getting pretty profound, to me anyway. Its the crux I reckon. Why, and what is the purpose of desire? Maybe like the fun of looking in a mirror for the first time. As long as you don't mistake yourself for the mirror its fun, but if you forget yourself...just that. Sorry ALG, I think I just dribbled all over your profoundness

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

You're talking as if time really exists?


I don't see why there's any problem with manifesting instantly.

IFT, I agree.

If we adopt the model of self creation, as in we are creating our reality, then instant manifestation is happening 24/7. If you're responsible for everything inside your awareness, then you are creating, manifesting everything instantly, people, your own avatar, the immediate environment.

Once you accept that, then manifesting anything else you require can't be that difficult and would presumably be very fast or instantly. Steve said an interesting thing once "the reason why you can't instantly manifest something you desire is because you are instantly manifesting what you already have"

We're choosing to manifest the things that we have right now, even the things we say and think we don't want.

To observe it, is to create it.

Max

[torilink]

yes, to observe it is to create it.

And like I've been saying - when my physical perceptions tell me something that is in opposition to what I desire, then I turn my belief away from those perceptions and observe what I DO DESIRE within my imagination. I am observing it NOW within my mind - and if I do a good job - then it is made manifest.

I still have not manifested matter from thin air in the moment of observation - but I'm a try'n .....

[decterlove]

"Ahhh, the million dollar question. The answer is resistance. The past or past experience builds a level of resistance that is brought into the now (present) when thought upon. People say things like "why can't I make a million dollars?" Because you have resistance to it, through the thoughts of the past. "Why can't I find love" Because you have a resistance to it from the past.

The resistance can be thoughts (always of the past) when you remember not getting the million dollars or not being able to find the love you desire. So what you end up doing is observing a past choice/thought where it didn't work out and you transplant that observation into the present, into the now and you continue to not get the money/love/health etc you desire. Like a self fulfilling prophecy of failure.

I think I need parsing lessons tho.....

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

yes, to observe it is to create it.


I still have not manifested matter from thin air in the moment of observation - but I'm a try'n .....

Actually I'd have to say that you are manifesting matter from thin air at the moment of observation. Are we not choosing and rendering the entire experience instantly as we go, could it be that every single thing that is rendered physically is created instantly through choice as you move through the experience or move throughout the container of awareness.

To consider that we create anything through thought or choice means we must be creating everything, I can't imagine it has an on/off switch.

From the moment you wake in the morning the physicality is rendered instantly and you continue to maintain the rendered creation throughout the day adding new stuff and maintaining stuff you are familiar with.

That is a noodlebaker cosmic awesome power is consciousness and you get to be it Nice!

Max

[torilink]

ok, I guess I am saying I haven't instantaeously materialized/manifested consciously a desire at the exact moment I made the choice and simaltaneously allowed it & became physically aware of it (with my ego perception) at that precise moment.




you know what I mean - ??

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

ok, I guess I am saying I haven't instantaeously materialized/manifested consciously a desire at the exact moment I made the choice and simaltaneously allowed it & became physically aware of it (with my ego perception) at that precise moment.




you know what I mean - ??

I know exactly what you mean.

Such denial are you, consciousness

Max

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

However, they are only real if you are below the level of Oneness. All that exists is the Clear Light of Truth.

What is the clear light of truth in your statement? For me truth is nonduality or Oneness. Everything that we call as matter/creation are an illusion. They dont really exist but seem to exist as a part of the illusion. Pursuit of truth for me is experiencing/knowing this.

[absvan]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

You're talking as if time really exists?


I don't see why there's any problem with manifesting instantly.

Time is a series of moments for me...

As I had mentioned before, if you can instantly manifest anything and I mean "instantly" then the ego in you is dead. Desires/emotions mean nothing to you. You wont need any more choices/decisions. At this stage why would you need to create anything?

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

I think that if you successfully transcend the illusion of time, the necessary corollary is that you've practically attained enlightenment, and transcended desire as well.

I concur

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by absvan

Time is a series of moments for me...

As I had mentioned before, if you can instantly manifest anything and I mean "instantly" then the ego in you is dead.

To be honest, I'm getting a hunch that manifesting instantly won't be that far off for me. When I "get" there, I'll still have my 'ego'.

The word 'Ego' is a loaded word, heavy with hundreds of years of definitions by people looking for what exists.

What I'm saying is by saying 'higher self' and 'lower self' or 'ego' ........it creates this artificial barrier where non exists.
When you reach that moment when you see that --Everything you are Observing is Inside You,-- you still have your 'ego'.

In fact you use your 'ego' to navigate the rest of eternity through yourself.

[Max Power]

We are always playing the same game of denial to maintain the illusion, we want the power, but not necessarily the knowledge that comes with that.

We can free up a lot of power if we understand that everything is already there within us. Doing this lets us remove so much of the denial and we can see we don't need time or growth. If we already have everything within us (we do) then it's just a game of revelation, rather than a game of attainment.

It's easier to just uncover the truth that is already there than spend time searching for it. There is nothing outside, everything is inside already done, already chosen, already for us to enjoy.

Now you know why every PD and self help expert agrees, you must believe you already are in possession of what you desire because you actually, truly are.

Max