After watching "The Secret"

[leshka]

After watching the Secret I have some mixed feelings. Everything in the movie sounds great and logical. But again this theory puts humans apart from the other species. Does the ability to think really oblige us to be completely responsible for our lives? What about animals? They don’t think good or bad thoughts…and look at their fates: some die young from illnesses, some become victims of cruelty, some live happy healthy life surrounded by love and admiration of humans.
Personally I don’t see any difference in possible scenarios for both animal and human life. You can be a human and live a dog’s life or you can be an animal and eat from a silver plate all the life and get a gold grave stone after your death.
Is there anything that is predetermined before we are born? The level of our vibration? Is it all written in our genes? Looks like Law of Attraction lacks some universality. Every time I hear a theory that can be applied only to humans makes me puzzled…regardless how life manifests itself in a form of human or in a form of a horse the laws of life should be universal.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by leshka

Does the ability to think really oblige us to be completely responsible for our lives? What about animals?

Animals are newer Participants (being a human is older) from the Land of Eternity, dipping their toes in this delicious Game of Physicality.

[dorothy hanna]

Just like the Law of Gravity, the Law of attraction does work the same for animals and humans alike. People just have a tendancy to separate themselves in their minds, and superior. That's O.K. That's mostly where people are at this time. We will evole to a higher level eventually.

All the Laws of the Universe, apply equally to everythink.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by leshka

Does the ability to think really oblige us to be completely responsible for our lives?

LoA does work... but it is not an exact science... and for some reason, does not work all the time... and when it does work, it tends to do so in generalities and not in specificities...

You can manifest abundance... but not winning the lottery... you can manifest love... but not the cute chick next door...

The reason it does not work for animals is probably due to the fact that they do not have enough intellectual resources to apply it in a rational way...

LoA is a tool that can help us to lead a happier and more fulfilled life... but, it's only a tool among many others...

.

[Liara Covert]

Perhaps some of those mainstream movies about people trading places with animals mean to remind human beings that their superiority complexes can have humbling repercussions. Watch how you think, because you evolve into what you think about...

[Max Power]

There is a reason why manifestation is a haphazard affair and it's because of the self limiting system. This system is in place to keep life interesting (and imperfect) imagine if you could choose and then get everything you chose. The whole nature of your reality would spiral out of control, in fact it would resemble perfection and that is not the point of this life.

Life is an iimperfect perception and it must be maintained that way to make it enjoyable. Yes you can manifest anything, but not everything (that's not the point) there is a difference and you made it this way. You can get back much of your creative power through letting go of denial, guilt, the need for growth, the perception of time, but the very nature of the reality you've chosen is reliant on imperfection and that means some things don't work out.

You can have anything you want as long as you pay the price and everything has a price, sometimes you will elect to not pay the price, hence somethings will not manifest.

It's not magic (that's perfection) it's the experience you've chosen.

Max
K.I.S.S
Keep It Simple Self Help People

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Shamou

You can manifest abundance... but not winning the lottery... y

This article proves your statement is false.

As Max sez, the limits you impose upon yourself......come from yourself.

[infinitethoughts]

Another interesting comment about consciously winning at games of chance.

I've always did like this quote from Bach's book Illusions.
"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."

[Old Soul]

You can manifest abundance... but not winning the lottery

I'm going to win, I don't know exactly when or how much, but I know I am going to win....... I see it, I live it and I am living in abundant expectation hehehehe!!......just a matter of time ....

[Namaste]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

This article proves your statement is false.

One retrospective case does not prove anything.

[Liara Covert]

Max Power draws attention to a key issue: Humans can manifest anything, but not everything. Sacrifice and compromise come into play. Since our current form of existence as humans is impermanent we also have unforeseen time constraints that factor into what we intend and hope to realize.

To take an example, if you desire to manifest a loving relationship in your life, romance may present itself in a distant location that requires you to reframe priorities and abandon the life you know so as to experience the love you think you seek.

Another example might involve your desire for wealth. Again, you can focus your energies on intending financial or other opportunities to present themselves, but taking one road to realize these goals will always require you deny yourself another road.

If we could pull a 'Hermione' from Harry Potter and stop time at will long enough to realize all we wanted, then the nature of the possible would differ.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Liara Covert

Max Power draws attention to a key issue: Humans can manifest anything, but not everything. Sacrifice and compromise come into play.

Thanks LC I love it when I think I'm clever

Max

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Namaste

One retrospective case does not prove anything.

Well if your gonna cling onto that statement then here's my statement ..........."Your belief that persons cannot consciously win the lottery, are your present limits."

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Liara Covert

Again, you can focus your energies on intending financial or other opportunities to present themselves, but taking one road to realize these goals will always require you deny yourself another road.

Liara, try and see that that is just one more limiting belief.

(What a minute. Is that allowed, that that, in proper Kings english)?
I really don't give a rats ass if it's allowed or not.

Lol.............................
(sorry got sidetracked)

[Liara Covert]

Hi infintethoughts.

Based on what you suggest, I suppose one could intend to accomplish more than one thing at once. This has been done, to a degree. We're always redefining limits. Any belief may limit others unless you agree with everyone all of the time.

For a large number of people, when they make a choice, they necessarily exclude other choices. If a student chooses to study dentistry to become a dentist, that person isn't simultaneously going to attend a police academy and become a policeman. However, if you believe in reincarnation or abiding in multiple dimensions at the same time, that would be another story.