Subjective Reality vs Intuition HELP!!!!

[Namaste Faustino]

Thanks to my Dad raising me as a Rosicrucian I began using my intuition at the ripe old age of 8 years old. As the years passed my intuition became stronger and stronger. Today, I use it almost every day and it is NEVER wrong.

I've been reading and rereading Steve's posts on Subjective Reality. Talk about sending my mind tumbling down the rabbit hole I've tested SR in every way I can think possible. It's solid. Every time I think I found a hole, it proves itself true. And that explains so much The only "missing" for me that subjective reality doesn't allow for intuition. Let me use an example out of my own life to explain...

In Oct 06 I decided to take off a month and head to Goa, India. None of my friends could go in Dec 06/Jan 07 which is when I wanted to do the trip. I HATE traveling alone so I decided to focus on manifesting a young, fun, hippie chick that I could party with while I was there. I began pricing tickets in Nov 06. I decided the best thing would be to leave after X-mas and that way I'd get experience the big New Years party on Anjuna Beach in Goa, India. My intuition did NOT like this idea at all. I do not get specific word phrases from my intuition a lot but this was clear. I was to arrive on Dec 5 2006. I was pissed! Not only was that not the date I wanted to leave but the plane tickets cost way more! My intuition held firm though and I relented. To make a long story short I arrived in Goa, India on the 5th of December. On the 7th of December I met Sryah. She is 24 (I'm 30) and a young, fun, hippie chick (EXACTLY what I was manifesting). We spent only 1 night apart during that entire trip. We had an awesome, fun travel romance. After leaving India we've kept in constant contact. I live in Las Vegas. She's flown in a couple of times. The romance is over but we are the best of friends now.

If I am creating the reality I experience than WHY did I have to be in Goa, India on Dec 5, 2006? Because Sryah was there. If I'd flown in on Dec 26, 2006 Sryah would have been long gone. If I'm creating my reality why wouldn't I have just created her there on Dec 26, 2007? I had to pay hundreds of dollars more for my plane ticket AND it was not a good time for me to go. My intution was unmoving. Sometimes I can get it to switch but this was unmoving. Show up on Dec 5, 06. PERIOD! I've learned the hard way not to argue. If I had not met Sryah Goa, India would have REALLY sucked. It's not what it was 30 years ago. It's dieing...

I've got a number of other examples just like this one about my intuition. If I'm creating my reality, why does my intuition tell me I have to do certain things, at certain times? It's a pain in the ass. Wouldn't I just create what I want, when I want it? Help.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Namaste Faustino

The only "missing" for me that subjective reality doesn't allow for intuition.

If I'm creating my reality, why does my intuition tell me I have to do certain things, at certain times? It's a pain in the ass. Wouldn't I just create what I want, when I want it? Help.

SR places your identity with consciousness, you are not a mind/body person running around in the world, you are consciousness and everything is running around inside of you. You're playing a game (for the sake of the imperfect illusion that physical reality is) a game full of denial of your true power.

Intuition is a word to describe a human based thought process that covers the knowing of something, prior to it possibly existing. If you truly believe in SR (it's a very empowering belief system) you would have to cast out the label of intuition, for nothing is telling you of something about to happen, it's actually you falling back into the trap of thinking your true identity is your mind/body.

If you really want SR to help you live a better life, then you have to stop identifying your mind/body as the boss

Max

[Namaste Faustino]

Max,

I've read and reread Steve's posts on subjective reality. I also read a lot of your comments on this forum. You have SR nailed in a way that most don't. I was hoping you would respond.

If you truly believe in SR (it's a very empowering belief system) you would have to cast out the label of intuition, for nothing is telling you of something about to happen, it's actually you falling back into the trap of thinking your true identity is your mind/body

Fair enough, so could me being able to know about events before they happen be something else? Conciousness warning itself based on the experience it wants to create?

The reason I love SR is that it's totally based in the right here and right now. It's also based on what I am experiencing right here and right now. No BS. All I know is I go about my day-to-day experience and I get warnings, hints, pushes all the time. They are as real as any other experience I have in this avatar.

The only thing I can think of that is possible is that I am choosing to create the experience of intutition. After all this illusion is cunning. By creating the experience of intuition I'm making the illusion appear more real. Steve talks about causing yourself to experience more physic abilities in subjective reality. He has done it himself. He just never talked about what I experience ALL THE TIME (knowing something is going to happen before it does). To simply start ignoring these hints, pushes, warnings (pretending that they don't exist) would only cause me pain (I've ignored intuition in the past and it's ALWAYS a bad idea).

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Max Power

SR places your identity with consciousness, you are not a mind/body person running around in the world, you are consciousness and everything is running around inside of you. You're playing a game (for the sake of the imperfect illusion that physical reality is) a game full of denial of your true power.

Intuition is a word to describe a human based thought process that covers the knowing of something, prior to it possibly existing. If you truly believe in SR (it's a very empowering belief system) you would have to cast out the label of intuition, for nothing is telling you of something about to happen, it's actually you falling back into the trap of thinking your true identity is your mind/body.

If you really want SR to help you live a better life, then you have to stop identifying your mind/body as the boss

Max

Can you explain what 'the imperfect illusion that physical reality is' to which you refer?

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Can you explain what 'the imperfect illusion that physical reality is' to which you refer?

That everything is not Now.

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Namaste Faustino

If I'm creating my reality, why does my intuition tell me I have to do certain things, at certain times? It's a pain in the ass. Wouldn't I just create what I want, when I want it? Help.

This is my take. I am not an expert but this is what I have learnt so far.

Intuition is the way your spirit guide contacts you or talks to you. Your spirit guide is not a separate person but the other part of you...in fact its the real you or your soul. This is becuase before you came in human form, you signed up for a contract and you soul agreed to help you with your journey. When you die you go back and probably renew the contract and you will be born again.

Though I am not sure how many times you do this, your ultimate goal in human form is to merge/realize consciousness. So in essence, the you continue the cycle of birth and death until you merge with consciousness.

Now Advaita or SR is a shortcut from all of this to merge directly with consciousness. Since that is the real goal, everything such as LOA, Law of Karma, Spirits, Angels etc exists only to maintain the playground for you to grow (hence an illusion) ............its created for your growth and so is not real ONLY from a consciousness POV. SR is to bypass the illusion.

In the end its your choice as to what you want to choose, but you cant have both.

[Namaste Faustino]

I don't know why I didn't see this before. Steve said, "It’s certainly possible to explore psychic development without a subjective belief system, but I found that the more I embraced subjective reality, the richer my psychic experiences became.

When I was a kid I (consciousness) was into ancient egypt, magic, super heros etc. Big surprise I had my first experience of "super powers" right at the same time. Consciousness wanting to experience super powers created them. The "super powers" I'm referring to are manifestation powers, intuition, etc. Why didn't I (consciousness) create even cooler super powers? Didn't believe it was possible.

If I'm looking at this through an SR lens than my intuition is conciousness wishing to continue to experience "super powers." I (consciousness) enjoy having the ability as much as it can be a pain sometimes. At least that is my insight into the question that caused me to post this in the first place.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by Namaste Faustino

If I'm creating my reality, why does my intuition tell me I have to do certain things, at certain times? It's a pain in the ass. Wouldn't I just create what I want, when I want it? Help.

Can you answer your own question? Tell us why you think you have to do certain things at a certain time for the manifestation to come out the way you want it to.

This will tell you a lot about your creative process and what denial you're not seeing in that process.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Namaste Faustino

Max,Fair enough, so could me being able to know about events before they happen be something else? Conciousness warning itself based on the experience it wants to create?

What is dejavu? Is it possible that consiousness is so clever it knows exactly how everything will play out and sometimes you get a glimpse of what has already happened because consciousness knows everything that has and will happen.

This could be the same for knowing something beforehand, you know it because consciousness has already created it. All PD gurus tell us to imagine the event you want to have already taken place, you already have the million dollars. Why is that? Because consciousness creates instantly right now and then runs the whole process across time to allude to growth for the physical avatar

If consciousness truly is powerful on a spiritual level, then why would it create anything without knowing what's going to happen, it doesn't do that, denial is the job of physical avatar.

Denial of attainment is measured by time and growth.

Max

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Can you explain what 'the imperfect illusion that physical reality is' to which you refer?

Imagine that consciousness is perfect, timeless and everything. How does it know that? It can't (or maybe it does and it gets bored easy ) so it creates a container and places everything in there to experience imperfection to appreciate itself.

Consciousness knows itself very well and maintains the illusion of imperfection (physical reality) to have an expereince of knowing itself better. If you were God, having god powers must be boring because your powers are limitless, hence the need to use your god powers to limit your powers and experience that.

You (consciousness/god) are playing the ultimate game of denial for the benefit of enjoying an experience. How do we know this to be true? We don't it's just a theory, but it works for me

Max

[Namaste Faustino]

Dharma asked, "Can you answer your own question? Tell us why you think you have to do certain things at a certain time for the manifestation to come out the way you want it to.

This will tell you a lot about your creative process and what denial you're not seeing in that process."

That's a great question. Just to be clear manifestation and intuition (at least in my book) are two different animals. When I'm manifesting I focus on the burning desire. It's really that simple. Sometimes what I'm manifesting literally drops into my lap. Other times I get a push, a nudge, a feeling to go looking in a certain section in the book store for example. During these times I have no idea that "the nudge" has anything to do with the manifesting I'm doing. It's only when I get the result from the action I was "nudged" to take that I realize why. And that Dharma is where the frustration comes in a lot of the time. I have no idea why I'm being nudged. I just know I'm being nudged and it would be a good idea to take action. However many times those nudges are to do something incredibly uncomfortable. When you have no facts to rationalize a decision it can be diffcult. I've made a request a number of times to have a verbal communication with my intuition. I has happened a few times but the sentences I get are so short. They can be almost as confusing as the nudges. Looking at this through an SR lens I need to take responsiblity and simply create clear communication with my intuition since I'm the one creating it anyway. I don't think I've taken responsibiltiy in that way before. Thanks for asking me to think this through

[Namaste Faustino]

Max said, "If consciousness truly is powerful on a spiritual level, then why would it create anything without knowing what's going to happen, it doesn't do that, denial is the job of physical avatar.

Thanks for the insight on this MAX. You are dead on. Denial is the job of the physical avatar. If you look at it that way my intuition nudges with out clear communication make total sense =)

[Lallymac]

Namaste: Thank you for asking the question of where intuition fits with SR. I've been asking the same thing. I get that guides etc are aspects of self. I can see the humour in how I take more notice of a 6ft 4 half naked Native American Indian or the image of Budha than I do of myself and is Donald Neale Walsh aware he's talking to himself.

Reading your post I realized I've left my intuition outside the container (she says scrambling to retrieve it).

Max: Brilliant as usual!! I get it (I think) but being it 24/7 is another story.

Lally

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Lallymac

Max: Brilliant as usual!! I get it (I think) but being it 24/7 is another story.

Lally

L, we are playing a very awesome game, we are constantly on the edge of truth and denial, running right upto the edge and then pulling back for fear of ruining the game. We want it all and why not, we built the whole thing from the ground up But we made the rules (stupid rules d'oh!) for a reason to maintain the perception, we want it both ways, but there has to be a trade off for maintenance reasons.

You can't get all your god powers back, that's not the point, but you can get some and understand the rest. Such is the nature of the choice

Max

[XeutonMojukai]

The best example of how SR ties into intuition as a concept is, in my opinion, The Matrix.

As The One, Neo symbolizes someone with control of their intention-manifestation capabilities in such a manner that it is intuitive to do, just like walking was before.

The idea of "trying to free your mind" is the idea of trying to make someone realize that their intentions, once they've awakened, carry immense power within this virtual reality.

The more you think it's real, the more you succumb to it's pitfalls.

The less you think it's real, the less you care about them, and the less they affect you.

Example from the Matrix: Neo is shot. Bleeds. Barely hears it.

He was in his own Zone. He didn't care about the bullet. he was unhurt.

As soon as he let himself think it was real, he succumbed to the following bullets.

Then, he realized subconsciously just what was going on. All the dots connected, and he woke up for real. Now, he was at the level of Jesus or Buddha. He could do anything. He could bend the laws of physics because he was the laws of physics as far as his own body was concerned. He was in the matrix, but not of it.

The idea of intuition comes in because the Oracle is intuition.

It tells him what he needs to hear, not what is true definitively. If it did, things would be set in stone.

That's not true, though, is it?

I also am a Rosicrucian, and I think the two ideas mix together well.

Rely on intuition when you're opening yourself to unknown intentions (in other words, you need it to see the problems that SR solves).

Hopefully this makes sense, because I've thought of it this way for a while.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by XeutonMojukai

The more you think it's real, the more you succumb to it's pitfalls. The less you think it's real, the less you care about them, and the less they affect you.

Well said, I like it.

Max

[Namaste Faustino]

Rely on intuition when you're opening yourself to unknown intentions (in other words, you need it to see the problems that SR solves).

Hopefully this makes sense, because I've thought of it this way for a while.

What do you mean by rely on intuition when I'm opening myself to unknown intentions (in other words, you need to see the problems SR solves)? This statement totally loses me. Please explain in more detail.

I guess that confuses me I (in part) because isn't that what I do naturally? Take my new company logo for example. Last week I had a feeling of intuition to NOT take my logo in to my graphic designer. I was pissed!!!!! I wanted it done. My intuition said, "No!!!!!" I know better than to ignore my intuition. I called up my graphic designer and told him I needed to reschedule. On Friday I did a search on Google for a champagne glass for my logo. I was trying to figure out if my intuition had told me to wait because I should be using a different glass in the logo. To make a long story short a graphic of a champagne bottle being popped showed up as well. As soon as I saw it, I got it. I changed my logo to include a champagne bottle being popped and it was PERFECT

I could have ignored my intuition and turned in my logo to be done. I might of been happy with the original one. However the new one is 10 x better.

Looking at this through an SR lens I see it that consciousness was simply creating a more pleasing logo for itself based on my intention for this company.
Any thougths?

[XeutonMojukai]

This is a perfect example to explain my analogy.

So, your intuition, regardless of the source, saw a place for your willpower to take action. This would be the future alterations of the logo.

Your intuition gave you access to the problem, and it was up to you to solve it.

Once you had solved it properly enough (and I should include this side of intuition too), your intuition changed its own answer from "no" to "yes".

In other words, think of a problem/solution as a span of space and time with a definitive pair of boundaries. One side is the beginning, the other is the end.

These boundaries are given to you by the intuition. First you're shown the beginning boundary when you're ready to see it. Then, you're shown the end boundary once you've earned it, reached it, or whatever you'd like to call it.

The rest is your responsibility.

Make sense?

~ David

[Namaste Faustino]

David,

When it comes to my intuition I get a feeling that says "do this" or "don't do that." At that point I have a choice. I can follow the instructions my feelings are giving me or I can ignore them. Not following them always ends up costing me...

You are right, ultimately it is my responsiblity in the end. I'm the one who chooses to follow the feeling or ignore it.

And isn't that interesting.... I wasn't happy with my logo. I mean it worked, but I wasn't happy with it. I thought, "Whatever, it's close enough." Suddenly, I get a feeling to NOT hand it over to the graphic designer. Two days later I'm in the MGM casino (I live in Vegas) and I see a graphic of 2 champagne bottles clicking together that wouldn't let me look away. When I got home is when I did the search online for different kinds of champagne glasses. That Google search lead me to the graphic of the champagne bottle being popped that was perfect for my logo.

That was NOT an outside source at all. I was the one unhappy with the graphic. Sure it was a feeling of intuition that kept me from turning it in but ultimately I was the one unhappy in the first place. I, and I alone, ultimately caused that feeling of intuition. Thanks!

[XeutonMojukai]

Since most of my insights come as I teach them, I also should thank you for asking me for clarification, and providing such a great example.

I, myself, have had difficulty with intuition vs. consciousness for a long time as well.

Just today, I found my intuition testing me.

I had gotten an energy drink, and felt my intuition say, "throw it away".

Before I did, it changed its answer to "don't. never mind."

I now see that this was a lesson that my consciousness should be the final say on whether my intuition is worth fighting for or not. In other words, if I want to be lazy, but my consciousness says I should do something, then my intuition might well be wrong about staying lazy. Maybe I should get up and find a job or a new friend.

Intuition is just another tool, even the Rosicrucians believe that.

The ultimate user of tools is that same consciousness that created the abundance of tools it now uses today: that of oneself.

Also, it shows that a big key to living consciously is to be aware of opportunities, and to take advantage of them only if you deem them worthy of your efforts.