Container Theory

[Max Power]

Welcome to the Container.

The container is everything in present moment conscious awareness, it is the observation and the observer. The container is consciousness creating through conscious choice everything in awareness. When you sit in a room and observe the surroundings (including you in the room) that is the container. Everything inside the container (including you) exists and everyting outside the container does not exist. So you (your physical body) is inside the container and is exactly the same as everything else inside the container. There is no difference between your physical body and a chair, a tree, a frog or the sky.

The container can change and bring things into it, like new surroundings, different people, bad weather and other things like money, health, emotion and thought. The container holds all that the container places inside it, but anything outside of it, does not exist. The container is perfection, filling itself with all sorts of different things to experience imperfection.

Everything is created and exists inside the container as required to maintain the experience observed via the container, thought, emotion, love, hate, physical renderings like trees, human bodies, cars, sky etc, but if it's not inside the container, it doesn't exist.

The observer is the point of observation to observe the container and emote to it's renderings, but it is not creative. It's sole purpose is to observe the container and observation created by the container. If you are standing on a beach and can see, feel, smell and sense air, waves, sand, sun, sky, people, laughter and importantly your own physical body then all of that is inside the container, everything is inside of it in present moment awareness.

The physical body is the same as everything inside the container just as much as everything it observes, it is dense in physical form and created from the same material. Nothing is 'out there' everything is 'inside here' there is no space, or stars, or time or planet, unless they are brought into the container.

Advantages of the container
Nothing outside of it matters, nothing outside of it can hurt you or affect you unless you bring it into the container. Because you are the central observation point as well as the container, you get to directly enjoy everything inside the container and importantly, be fully responsible for everything inside the container which means you have all the creative power, but you do not create through anything inside the container, remember you are the container, just as you are creating it. Everything is happening right here, right now inside the container and that keeps your focus on what's truly important. The container (you) can place anything inside the container at anytime, you do it instantly and there are no limits. The container sets rules, but they can be bent and broken.

Disadvantages of the container
With great power comes great responsibilty. As the container, you create everything that goes inside including your own observation point (the physical body you use to observe) but because the container is perfect and timeless, it creates everything inside to be imperfect on different levels to have a full experience, so the container can experience growth. In truth there are no real disadvantages, because the container is perfect, but just creating imperfection to know thyself, to know perfection.

Container Q&A

Is the container God?
No, God is a word to describe a power outside of physical humanity and more inline with religious beliefs.

Is the container consciousness?
Yes, but the word consciousness always seems to imply something like God, a source that is 'out there' somewhere, or at least everywhere, where as the word container implies a more stable present moment awareness, a more definable inside here right now type of thing.

Is the container SR?
SR is a belief system where consciousness is the primary source of creation and everything is consciousness, the problem here (again) is it seems to imply something outside somewhere and again the word container keeps everything inside where it really is. So while we could say SR is the same as the container, the word container implies a more defined central place to reference everything from. We could say that SR is the belief system and the container is all of the output of that belief system.

Why is the word container a good description for existance?
Because it lets you see everything that is important, it centralizes creative source and power and helps you focus on the moment. As past and future are outside the container, they don't exist, so you don't have to worry or consider them. It shifts the focus away from out there, where all sorts of things could be happening (they're not because they don't exist) and those things could affect you if you think there is an out there.

So I'm the container and everything I put in it?
Yes, including your mind/body, all the other bodies and everything else in the container.

Isn't the word container just another word for reality?
No, reality (like everything created to go inside the container) is inside the container and nowhere outside, remember there is no outside.

Who is the observer in the container?
You are, it's your container and if you notice, you're the only one who is ever inside of it 24/7, everyone else comes and goes (yes even loved one's) but you always remain inside, constant, stable and created.

Does the observer create?
No, the container creates itself and everything inside it, including the observer (your physical mind/body) the observer is made up of the same material everything inside the container is made up of.

How do I create things inside the container?
Choose them to be so and they will be. Choose for them to be inside the container and they will be.

What about IM and LoA?
There are creations, words to describe (poorly) the creative process, they do not create anything except a belief system that covers up (for growth reasons) true creative power, which is choice.

Who am I?
You are the container, everything you are aware of and nothing you're not.

Aren't you just trying to add another label to already existing ideas and concepts?
Yes, but in a way to clarify and aid improvement and to assist in the better creation inside the container.

Who are other people?
They are creations just like the observers physical mind/body.

There's billions of people on earth, how many containers are there?
One.

How can thinking like this help me?
When you consider that existance is inside a central point of reference, rather than everywhere else, it makes everything in awareness important, the people, environment, everything that is experienced inside the container is wonderful and significant. It also helps you focus on the important things that you've placed inside the container and it means you can place anything you want inside the container for the observer to experience. it focuses creative power and source and takes away the need to be concerned about anything outside. Nothing exists outside until you bring it inside.

What is the creative source in the container?
Choice is the only thing that creates, everything else is creation and therefore does not create.

Isn't choice, thougth?
No, thought and emotion are validators of choice

Wouldn't it be better just to call it consciousness?
I find that word to mean something that is everything, everywhere and that doesn't seem right. It would mean that consciousness is everything outside of awareness and that also doesn't feel right.

If my partner who I love very much leaves the container, does he/she cease to exist?
This is very hard to fathom, but yes that is correct. Existance can only be defined as what is observed by the observer inside the container. The container can't and doesn't maintain creation outside of itself, it doesn't need to do that, but it can and does move things in and out of the container at will, including people. If you miss someone for long enough what usually happens?? You bring them back into the container to enjoy.

Explain the people part better, it's freaking me out?
When someone enters the container or is brought into it by you, that is important, because you created it. Some people like random strangers you don't interact with are there for continuity purposes, but people we like and love are inside the container for us to see created different parts of the container (parts of ourselves) on the people level. The people we care about most are created parts of the container improving the overall state of the container.

Why do you believe this true?
It helps me understand what I am, why I'm the only person who's with me 24/7, what other people are and what is the system of the seemingly stable environment I am housed in.

This is the dumbest premise I've ever heard are your crazy and deluded?
All of that could be true, I'm trying to understand how things work. It's not enough that I can see them working, I want to know why and in doing that I help myself hence the term 'self help' I see my existance as inside the container, but being the container as well, creator and created. The first thing I created inside the container was an observation point and all day everyday I create things to observe. By labelling it a container, it creates a place/space to place things in, to observe in and to improve. It's imperfect, hence the need to create it in the first place.

Welcome to the container

[dorothy hanna]

MAX, MAX, MAX! That was pretty darn good!

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by dorothy hanna

MAX, MAX, MAX! That was pretty darn good!

I find it helps me keep things I don't want outside and therefore they don't come inside and of course to have better creative control. I really struggle with the word consciousness, it always seem to me to imply things that I'm not aware of and seems to place consciousness somewhere else outside of me

Max

[Ree]

because I've recently been pondering some of these points, such as do the billions of people who are said to populate this planet, but who I never see, really exist? Max Power, you just took the idea and ran with it! Thanks!

Think I'll call it "my room" instead of "a container." My room sounds cozier and more comfy

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Ree

because I've recently been pondering some of these points, such as do the billions of people who are said to populate this planet, but who I never see, really exist? Max Power, you just took the idea and ran with it! Thanks!

Think I'll call it "my room" instead of "a container." My room sounds cozier and more comfy

When we think of how big things are supposed to be, huge planet, 6 billion people, enormous universe, it's all so daunting, it's unmanagable. If we can describe and understand it in a more managable format, it gives us more control over the output.

You can all it 'Your Room' if you like, just make sure it's big enough to fit everything you want in it The only problem I have with the word room is that it seems like it could be of limited size, it's a heck of a big room when you're at the football game and there's 100,000 people in there with a stadium and all the continuity, that's why I thought container was a good one, another one could be 'The Construct' like from the Matrix, but that implies something before you get into the Matrix, so it's a little confusing
Max

[Akashic_Librarian]

Good Job Max. You basically said what I was thinking but better

That was really really good, I really enjoyed reading it. It made sense as well

[Frans]

Great post, Max!

BTW: I wonder whether you also have read the posts in this forum before you became a member (April)?
There are several other SR theories proposed there (some of the authors don't seem to post here anymore).

[Lil Chris]

Max,
I like the way you think...

[theknightwhosaysni-NI]

Originally Posted by Max Power

If my partner who I love very much leaves the container, does he/she cease to exist?
This is very hard to fathom, but yes that is correct. Existance can only be defined as what is observed by the observer inside the container. The container can't and doesn't maintain creation outside of itself, it doesn't need to do that, but it can and does move things in and out of the container at will, including people. If you miss someone for long enough what usually happens?? You bring them back into the container to enjoy.

I think the container is actually greater than what the observer can perceive. The container is not dependent from the observer's senses (hear, sight etc.).
Thus, I/We are more than what I am aware to be, even if I identify with the perceived container (I am more than my body/mind field of perception). If the loved partner or anyone else leaves the perceived container, he doesn't cease to exist. He just cease to be observed (or perceived) by the observer.

[torilink]

what Max refers to as the "container" I think of as the NOW - it is ever all that exists in my awareness. I can bring into that anything I choose - if I believe I am the result of infinite past moments (ego persona) then I bring all of that in, this is the Ego projecting past into future.

If I am in bondage to my Ego and the past, then images of the Past control and I toil and suffer in my bondage.

NOW, or the container as Max defines it is all possibility - every possible possibility, and we have the choice what IS.

I am in this moment all I choose to be - I AM -

when we string these NOW's together from an ego based perspective, we have linear time as our brain understands it, but all that ever truly exists is what you can imagine NOW. We bring into the NOW what we choose, whether it be in memory - or imagination.

[Max Power]

The point of considering that your existance is inside a container of sorts is to localise power, control and keep the whole thing managable. When we consider the universe and our place in it, that can be very overwhelming, so we may need to simplify to make it more understandable.

Considering that the universe is the really huge thing and consiousness is everywhere does not help me live my life, it places too much 'out there' and outside my awareness, outside my importance and outside my control. Control is probably the wrong word, but it's pointless to me, to not have any or to be at the mercy of something that isn't based on me, outside there somewhere

Container theory is just a way to view life and in the process aid in living that life, much like SR.

Max

[Liara Covert]

I like to think "outside-the-container." Thanks for all your discussions. I like how people explore their ideas of limitations and subtle fears about infinite possibilities.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Liara Covert

I like to think "outside-the-container." Thanks for all your discussions. I like how people explore their ideas of limitations and subtle fears about infinite possibilities.

We're all different, but not really I like my container and putting things in there, although sometimes I put some very odd stuff in there But as long as it's in there, I did it, so I have to deal with it

Max