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Old 06-12-2007, 03:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Manifestation when you're not expecting it!!!

I have noticed throughout the years that my manifestations usually occur when I am not thinking about or expecting them too. Usually its the furthest thing from my mind and all of a sudden there is my manifestation. Here is an examples.

I had a major crush on a certain boy when I was a teenager. I had no way of reaching him since he didn't go to school with me anymore. I desperately wanted him to visit me. I said a little prayer every night before going to bed and day dreamed about him all of the time. Finally one cold rainy day I sat down on my bed and said to myself. Thats it. I'm not ever going to see him again. This just is not working. The door bell suddenly rang and there he was. I have had countless experiences like this over the years. Either I am not thinking about it or I am just about to give up!

I just wondered if others have had this experience.
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I just wondered if others have had this experience.
Happens all the time... it's called "coincidence"...

There are zillions of forces simultaneously interacting with unforeseen and inexplicable results... it has nothing to do with LoA or prayers... it is simply the way that the universe unfolds...

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Actually, I have noticed that exact same phenomenon, dragonfly. You aren't alone. If I send out my intent and then completely forget about what I sent out consciously, my experience has been that it actually increases the probability of the manifestation occuring. It has something to do with non-anticipation. My personal opinion is that since it is outside my conscious mind's focus, I am no longer encumbering my intent with the resistance inherrent in worry, anxiousness, or fear that my intent will not come to pass. So in otherwords, completely forgetting about your intent is not exactly necessary, but detatchment from the outcome of your intent is.

I can't express how helpful it is for people to share these kinds of perceptions. This is what makes a forum like this so great -- it's a spiritual distillery for perspective. Hope you found this helpful.
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Great observation dragonfly,
I've noticed this as well, quite often recently... For me it kinda goes like this:
I'll be sitting on the edge of my bed and ponder a thought, just for like a minute or so, and then pretty much forget about it... Unitl it comes to pass like, usually it's with in like 3 days, the key for me is to remember my thought when it comes to pass... So, in my mind it's like "hey I just thought that like two days ago, how cool is that"...

Being a computer programer, helps me notice these things... What i've noticed is, if I can keep my concious mind focused on programing, yet allow the subconcious to come through, for me these thoughts are a little different (their deeper thoughts) it's hard to explain... but so cool when it happens!

To thanks Dragonfly & Anagogy for bringing this back into my awareness...
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Happens all the time... it's called "coincidence"...
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when it happens to you enough you eventually stop believing in coincidence.

The problem of course is forgetting about it!!! I see it happen with small things all of the time. I will find myself thinking I would really like to see that movie again, its been so long since it was on tv and then a few days later what will I find in the channel guide.

I am a Witch and I practice witchcraft and LOA is a big part of that. After completing a spell we are advised to sit in our ritual circle and envision the results of the spell taking place, then to forget we even did the spell. Thats often easier said than done, lol.
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I am a Witch...
Just because your better half called you a "Witch" does not necessarily makes it so...

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This goes exactly along the lines of what Tom of Montalk.net writes in his book, Fringe Knowledge For Beginners...

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"When you become aware of some possibility, you shine upon
it the spotlight of your awareness. This singles it out, makes it
freeze in its tracks, and puts it in your hands to deal with. Notice
how trouble happens when you least expect it, and when you
learn to expect it next time it fails to happen again. This shows
that anticipating negative possibilities prevents them from manifesting,
and that being unaware allows them to happen more
easily. The same goes for positive possibilities—maybe you are
certain you aced a test only to find out you barely passed; or
maybe you win a prize from a contest only when you have forgotten
all about it or never thought you might win. Anticipating
something decreases its chances of manifesting. So learn to become
aware of possible problems in order to freeze them, while
avoiding anticipating the positive things."
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Happens all the time... it's called "coincidence"...

There are zillions of forces simultaneously interacting with unforeseen and inexplicable results... it has nothing to do with LoA or prayers... it is simply the way that the universe unfolds...

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Sorry, Shomou.
No matter how hard it chaffs your hide, Amigo, all these people on here know & more will learn the deeper truths about LOA and IM.

Despite your attempts to look "authoritative" to newbies with a whopping 2,152 posts ! (Which by the way was accomplished in only 3 months.)....

I see you.

Lol................
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Sorry, Shomou.
No matter how hard it chaffs your hide, Amigo, all these people on here know & more will learn the deeper truths about LOA and IM.

Despite your attempts to look "authoritative" to newbies with a whopping 2,152 posts ! (Which by the way was accomplished in only 3 months.)....

I see you.

Lol................
I have walked my talk... have you...???

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I have walked my talk... have you...???
You most certainly have, Shomou.

Lol......................!
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I have noticed throughout the years that my manifestations usually occur when I am not thinking about or expecting them too. Usually its the furthest thing from my mind and all of a sudden there is my manifestation. Here is an examples.

I had a major crush on a certain boy when I was a teenager. I had no way of reaching him since he didn't go to school with me anymore. I desperately wanted him to visit me. I said a little prayer every night before going to bed and day dreamed about him all of the time. Finally one cold rainy day I sat down on my bed and said to myself. Thats it. I'm not ever going to see him again. This just is not working. The door bell suddenly rang and there he was. I have had countless experiences like this over the years. Either I am not thinking about it or I am just about to give up!

I just wondered if others have had this experience.
DF, if there is any secret to manifesting stuff, it's that very little emotion and/or thought are required. When you make a choice, the wheels are set in motion and then some thoughts and emotions to validate the choice can be experienced, if desired.

If we choose something to be true and then get on with our lives and have thoughts and emotions about everything else and then the choice manifests, then this tells us that thoughts and emotions (while wonderful to enjoy) do not create, they validate.

It's like a really lazy way to manifestation. Choice it to be so and let it go, then you can enjoy all your other thoughts and emotions knowing your choice will manifest. So simple and as you have seen it works. Works for me, works for you, works for everyone.

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...this tells us that thoughts and emotions (while wonderful to enjoy) do not create, they validate.
There's a lot of power in that knowledge.

I've had times where I intended something, then "gave up" on it, and then a year or more later it came back to bite me on the ass and was in full swing. Often times I start out with something, mess up horribly or completely fail, and this sort of forces me to let go of it for a little while, be it a day, a week or even years. Only when I let go do I allow it to continue.

There's a lot of power in being able to simultaneously be relentless and completely thoughtless and detached. There's no point in being relentless if you're full of thoughts and obsessed. It'll just stress you out and get lackluster results if any. It will also ruin your health.

I find this applies to relationships with others as well. You will ************ up the relationship if you are constantly thinking about a person and getting all emotional and obsessed. I've found the best way to drive people away from me is to have them on my mind. It works this way for cats too

Because it's contrary to the way we've all been reared, it takes a long time to learn to love someone without feeling any concern for or attachment to them. Notice also this concern and attachment often quickly turns into hate!

I've also found that with enough detachment and lack of concern, all the people who I ever hated becoming endearing in their quirks. The hatred is gone. Even someone I once was hoping to stab to death (I was gleefully anticipating this person making the first move while I had my hand on a combat knife).

On second thought, perhaps my anticipation of the first move is what always stopped people from crossing that deadly line with me
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You aren't alone. I intentionally manifest things on a regular bases. Other times I put out a desire to the universe and I forget about it. Suddenly, out of no where it manifests. That ALWAYS freaks me out and it ALWAYS reminds me that we REALLY have to be careful what we think about.

I have a great story that is similar to yours. My girlfriend broke up with me. As everyone does after a break up I thought about her a lot. In this case when I was thinking about her I was running a certain mental movie through my head. I'm a guy so you can guess what the mental movie was. After a while I stopped running the mental movie. A few months later I'm walking into my house and I see her driving by. Right when I looked at her, she looked at me, our eyes locked. She pulled the car over. I walked over to say hello. We talked and I invited her inside. I still smile about this. One thing lead to another, and the EXACT mental movie I had been running in my head, played out EXACTLY like I'd seen it in my head.
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I had a major crush on a certain boy when I was a teenager. I had no way of reaching him since he didn't go to school with me anymore. I desperately wanted him to visit me. I said a little prayer every night before going to bed and day dreamed about him all of the time. Finally one cold rainy day I sat down on my bed and said to myself. Thats it. I'm not ever going to see him again. This just is not working. The door bell suddenly rang and there he was. I have had countless experiences like this over the years. Either I am not thinking about it or I am just about to give up!
The explanation is quite simple.

When you "wanted" him, you had resistant thoughts. You had thoughts like "I hope he will come" but you also had thoughts like "Oh no, what if he doesn't come."

At a certain point in time, you "gave up". Except that you did not "give up". What happened was that you told yourself that:

1. he wasn't coming;
2. you've got to drop all this, and get on with your life

The effect of (2), combined with your past positive thoughts, was much stronger than (1).

You experienced detachment. It no longer mattered to you whether he came or not (because you had decided to move on). Of course, detachment is an essential element in LOA.

Therefore he came.

To want without wanting, that is the name of the game, when you play with LOA.
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The explanation is quite simple.

When you "wanted" him, you had resistant thoughts. You had thoughts like "I hope he will come" but you also had thoughts like "Oh no, what if he doesn't come."

At a certain point in time, you "gave up". Except that you did not "give up". What happened was that you told yourself that:

1. he wasn't coming;
2. you've got to drop all this, and get on with your life

The effect of (2), combined with your past positive thoughts, was much stronger than (1).

You experienced detachment. It no longer mattered to you whether he came or not (because you had decided to move on). Of course, detachment is an essential element in LOA.

Therefore he came.

To want without wanting, that is the name of the game, when you play with LOA.
ALG, you say your explanation is simple, but it is still overly complex. We always want to make it indepth, why? To justify power.

Everything you've said above can be simplified to....

Make a choice that it is so, then get out of the way.

Simple right? Shame that no one wants it simple, people want struggle, involvement and detail and what they end up with is delay, frustration and denial.

Your post is vital but too involved

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Shame that no one wants it simple, people want struggle, involvement and detail and what they end up with is delay, frustration and denial.
In my own case, I kept bouncing between short periods of hard work, and long periods of total counter-productive laziness, until I got out of the "there is no accomplishment without hard work" perception.

I also learned that all our accomplishments don't mean a damn thing, which helped put things into proper perspective. Life means nothing and death means nothing as well. It's all a flow of energy, and energy doesn't give a ************ about this or that. There really is no big or small event. Importance is completely self-generated, as is meaning. In this universe there is only energy.

This is 100% contrary to things like ambition, self pity, ego, greatness, good and evil. These are all based on self/society manufactured systems of value, which tell us different things have different intrinsic value. Value is 100% subjective.

I'm curious as to how you individuals will react to this.
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Importance is completely self-generated, as is meaning. In this universe there is only energy.
The key point to see is, In this universe there is only your energy.

So then.....
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Life means nothing and death means nothing as well. It's all a flow of energy, and energy doesn't give a ************ about this or that.
No.
Life means everything, to you, the empty vessel where everything happens inside of, as Max is saying.

To experience this practically do this.
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ALG, you say your explanation is simple, but it is still overly complex. We always want to make it indepth, why? To justify power.

Everything you've said above can be simplified to....

Make a choice that it is so, then get out of the way.

Simple right? Shame that no one wants it simple, people want struggle, involvement and detail and what they end up with is delay, frustration and denial.

Your post is vital but too involved

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Max,

I was curious about your explanation for negative events happening despite choosing the positive. There have been events in my life, negative in nature, that occured when I was intending (choosing) them to go positively. I was making a firm decision to manifest positively, but they ended poorly. I'm not trying to make things overly complicated, but I can't help but feel there is something more to manifestation than just choice.

I mean sure, the idea that consciousness creates by choice is the gist of it, but even though consciousness creates (the basic statement), the creations of consciousness are also consciousness (in self imposed form), and they also create. For example, the creations of anger, resentment, attatchment, and fear will create their own flavor of experience. I know you believe that emotion and thought are validators of choice, and that may be, at a certain level, but these are also creators of experience. If I have fear in my heart, and try to choose to manifest something, the creation of fear will certainly have an effect on the outcome of the manifestation. It will color the Conscious Choice, in effect covering it to some degree. That has been my experience. I understand what you are saying to a certain degree -- in essence, reconnect with the power, but my only problem is that you seem to believe there is no effort involved in getting to that state.

It may have been easy for you, but for most people (I think), there is alot of emotional and mental clutter to go through before they can reconnect with the power. And clearing those distortions from consciousness is what spirituality is to me, but despite my greatest wish to snap my fingers and be a god, I find there is actually quite a bit of effort involved in removing the barriers to instant presto chango manifestation.

Any thoughts on the subject?

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I was curious about your explanation for negative events happening despite choosing the positive. There have been events in my life, negative in nature, that occured when I was intending (choosing) them to go positively. I was making a firm decision to manifest positively, but they ended poorly. I'm not trying to make things overly complicated, but I can't help but feel there is something more to manifestation than just choice.

I mean sure, the idea that consciousness creates by choice is the gist of it, but even though consciousness creates (the basic statement), the creations of consciousness are also consciousness (in self imposed form), and they also create. For example, the creations of anger, resentment, attatchment, and fear will create their own flavor of experience. I know you believe that emotion and thought are validators of choice, and that may be, at a certain level, but these are also creators of experience. If I have fear in my heart, and try to choose to manifest something, the creation of fear will certainly have an effect on the outcome of the manifestation. It will color the Conscious Choice, in effect covering it to some degree. That has been my experience. I understand what you are saying to a certain degree -- in essence, reconnect with the power, but my only problem is that you seem to believe there is no effort involved in getting to that state.

It may have been easy for you, but for most people (I think), there is alot of emotional and mental clutter to go through before they can reconnect with the power. And clearing those distortions from consciousness is what spirituality is to me, but despite my greatest wish to snap my fingers and be a god, I find there is actually quite a bit of effort involved in removing the barriers to instant presto chango manifestation.

Any thoughts on the subject?
You (consciousness) will always maintain a level of denial, a level of being powerless, that is the nature of the structure. Remember you are playing game, if you could shoot through to the last level with all the cheat codes activated, it gets boring really fast.

Cheat codes is a good analogy for regaining more of your creative power, but to maintain the game and to keep in interesting, you purposefully do not envoke all the cheat codes, that is not the point of the game.

The concept of creation is simple.....make a choice and watch it manifest and that is indeed what happens, but that is boring, that is not the point of the game, you like a challenge (again the point of the game) so you invent and layer all these processes over the top of that.

The danger is when the layers are so thick and heavy they overwhelm the simple system of creation, it's a trade off, we need the complexity of the way it works to make it interesting, but going overboard with labels and processes, can strangle the manifestation process.

It's a challenge alright, that's the point we just need to keep it balanced.


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I have noticed throughout the years that my manifestations usually occur when I am not thinking about or expecting them too. Usually its the furthest thing from my mind and all of a sudden there is my manifestation...I just wondered if others have had this experience.
Yes, in the majority of situations that is how it works. It happens when you let you. See here (I have posted a quote from Joe Vitale’s book which explains why it is important to let go).
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The key point to see is, In this universe there is only your energy.
What about your energy?

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Life means everything, to you, the empty vessel where everything happens inside of, as Max is saying.
Could you elaborate on your interpretation of my statement "life means nothing" and how "life means everything" differs from it?
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Could you elaborate on your interpretation of my statement "life means nothing" and how "life means everything" differs from it?
Only you have energy, no one else has energy, to think they do means you will always be at the mercy of others. One consciousness, one observer, one experience.

Life is relative. Life as in physical reality is a wonderous thing, but hardly everything. It's important for you chose it, but it's output, not source. Life is the sum total of your choices, thoughts and POV. You create life, life doesn't create you.

As for manifesting when we aren't expecting it, what happens is that everything in your life is of your creation, you chose it, some stuff doesn't make sense, but you still chose it. So it may seem like stuff just turns up unasked for or unannounced, but somewhere in the choosing and creating process, we chose it.

We've already made the choice, we're here to understand it.

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Only you have energy, no one else has energy, to think they do means you will always be at the mercy of others. One consciousness, one observer, one experience.

Life is relative. Life as in physical reality is a wonderous thing, but hardly everything. It's important for you chose it, but it's output, not source. Life is the sum total of your choices, thoughts and POV. You create life, life doesn't create you.

As for manifesting when we aren't expecting it, what happens is that everything in your life is of your creation, you chose it, some stuff doesn't make sense, but you still chose it. So it may seem like stuff just turns up unasked for or unannounced, but somewhere in the choosing and creating process, we chose it.

We've already made the choice, we're here to understand it.

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Well said as always Max! as for this statement: "You create life, life doesn't create you" this is the crux of the ego based illusion most people call reality - only ego or persona is created from experience building layer upon layer - but this isn't life - it is illusion/death (and personally I believe this is the death of christ and burial in the tomb/earth/body spoken of in the NT, figuratively of course).

Life is conscious creation in the NOW (ressurection & life).
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Life is conscious creation in the NOW (ressurection & life).
TL true words.

"Once we're at the mercy of outside forces, then we are forever at their mercy"

You can't have it both ways, that's the worst level of denial, you either create everything or you create nothing, total responsibility or no responsibility, anything in between is a cop out when we can have some stuff, but not other stuff, we can have an ok life, but not the best life, outside forces decide how good we get it, but we can never have it all.

It's all so self limiting, that would be a depressing way to exist at the mercy of something other than oursleves.

We create everything and we create it right now

Works for me

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What about your energy?

Could you elaborate on your interpretation of my statement "life means nothing" and how "life means everything" differs from it?
There is no meaning to life except that which you assign it. If you want to mean nothing, it is so. If you want it otherwise, choose differently.

There are about 3 ways I figure you can live life:
Life is about nothing
Life is about love
Life is about experiencing

Choose the one that you prefer in this moment. You can always change your mind later

As far as energy goes, that's created by you as well. Your nature is the awareness that views this post - if you have energy, cool, if not, you're still here aren't you?
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infinitethoughts, I'm awaiting your response. What are you doing?
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infinitethoughts, I'm awaiting your response. What are you doing?
Sorry. I totally missed your post.
(You can PM me, if I miss any.)

What question were you asking?
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Manifestation when you're not expecting it!!!

Few responses up on this thread.
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What about your energy?
Everything you observe is coming from you. (Not you in the physical body, but you as awareness.)

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Could you elaborate on your interpretation of my statement "life means nothing" and how "life means everything" differs from it?
Well looking back at the entire context, I was responding to your statement energy doesn't give a ************ about this or that.

That lead me to the impression that you're saying that there is an energy outside you creating.
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