Creative Source

[Max Power]

Do you want to fast track your manifestations?? Here's how.......

Feelings, emotion, passion and thought (including the thought requirment for growth) are all creations. You don't create anything with creations.Thoughts, feelings, emotions are validators of choice. Choice creates and it doesn't need emotion and/or thought. Has every intention (thought)you ever made manifested? Have you ever had an intention, loaded it with thought and positive attitude and happy emotion only to see it not manifest?

This is because thoughts do not create, emotions do not create and considering that they do, places an unecessary obstacle in the way of manifestation. Forget emotion, other than as a creation to enjoy manifestation it's not required for manifestation.

For faster manifestation, choice creates, everything else just gets in the way.

Choose it and it will be so.

[Buttercup McToots]

Or perhaps direct me to reading material?
I have not been on this board in a while...Time to catch up.
Thank you
Buttercup

[absvan]

God said "Let there be light" and there was light. God did not think. It was a choice that happened in that moment.

Similarly everything you create happens in that moment. When you want to be healthy, wealthy or whatever, its a choice that you want. You choose to be that....when you make that choice its instantaneoulsy created in the world of the spirit.

You then use the LOA, thoughts and affirmations to bring it into physical reality. What Max is talking about is bypassing all that and making the creation instantaneous both in the world of the spirit and physical world.

I have read in books where when people are completely aligned with source energy, manifestations are instantaneous. There is no time delay......but then you are no more what you think you are.

Max, if I am right so far, then to acquire that kind of power, you have to get rid of your ego totally. For eg - your choices should be for the highest good of all and not for your satisfaction. You cannot manifest instantaneously for your personal pleasures and desires.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by absvan

You cannot manifest instantaneously for your personal pleasures and desires.

Why not?

[absvan]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Why not?

Well this is what I understand and this is based on my belief system. Personal pleasures and desires for myself originates from my ego. I thereby distinguish myself as separate from others.

When I tap into consciousness for instant manifestation (if I can achieve that ) I would in a state where I no longer identify myself as separate from others. So the decisions I take would be more along the lines of "for the highest good of all". Why?? Because I would know that there I am not separate from you and we are all the same.

The real question would be what would happen if I make a choice for self pleasure when I have the power of manifest instantaneously??? Honestly I dont know.

[Akashic_Librarian]

Ohh Max thats very interesting. You've given me something to think about!

[Buttercup McToots]

if you believe in SR and all that is my reality is is an extention of me and I am a part of the source...then it wouldn't be personal pleasure...wouldn't it be for the pleasure of the whole?

Ouch! I just hurt my brain

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by absvan

So the decisions I take would be more along the lines of "for the highest good of all". Why?? Because I would know that there I am not separate from you and we are all the same/

So I have the same exact desires as you?
And you have the same exact desires as me?

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Buttercup McToots

...then it wouldn't be personal pleasure...wouldn't it be for the pleasure of the whole?

It would be personal pleasure for YOU.

YOU= All the artificial "compartments" that is the overall You.

But these "compartments" are just as important as the overall you, and live forever.

[absvan]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

So I have the same exact desires as you?
And you have the same exact desires as me?

What I meant is my desire is for the highest good of all. I dont know anything about your desire.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by absvan

What I meant is my desire is for the highest good of all. I dont know anything about your desire.

Right, but you said we are all the same above. I'm just trying to be clear on what you're saying.

[absvan]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Right, but you said we are all the same above. I'm just trying to be clear on what you're saying.

Infinitethoughts,

I believe we all came from the same source/energy/god/universe of whatever you want to call, though we seem to be separate due to the illusion created by our bodies. In physical reality we are different with different bodies and in the world of the spirit we are the same. Thats what I meant by we are all the same.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by absvan

What Max is talking about is bypassing all that and making the creation instantaneous both in the world of the spirit and physical world. You cannot manifest instantaneously for your personal pleasures and desires.

You do indeed manifest instantly and then create all the mechanisms to justify the manifestaton, mechanisms like thought emotion, time, body, mind etc. The mind, body, thoughts and emotions are all creations of consciousness, therefore you can't create with a creation. Remember that consciousness is doing all the grunt work, all the creating, your body is also a creation to observe the other creations.

I believe that thought and emotion do not create as they are observation tools, you (consciousness) creates something and then an emotion or thought is also created to react to the creation. You don't need to eliminate the mind, the mind is an important observation tool, but it doesn't create anything. The best thing to do is try and identify with consciousness more, it's where all the creative power is. If you choose something to be so, instantly, then you'll build all the mechanisms to validate, justify and observe the creation.

Also the problem of understanding comes from seperation, we all think we are individuals running around living out our lives and that is the simulation or the illusion, we are all one, one consciousness, one experience. This cannot be understood from a mind/body POV, because that is part of the illusion, part of the simulation, you must connect with consciousness to see that consciousness is everything in it's awareness. It's very challenging to grasp because we always look at everything from the human being POV, but that is not the primary source, that is the illusion, the creation.

If you want to connect with consciousness, ask yourself this question. Where in your physical body/mind are you? Where are you contained? When you see the answer you'll know that you are not your body/mind, you are consciousness, the container for everything in awareness (that awareness part is very important) you are both observer and observer, the tree, the road, the building, the love, all the bodies you are aware of is you, is consciousness.

[tsouth]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Do you want to fast track your manifestations?? Here's how.......

Feelings, emotion, passion and thought (including the thought requirment for growth) are all creations. You don't create anything with creations.Thoughts, feelings, emotions are validators of choice. Choice creates and it doesn't need emotion and/or thought. Has every intention (thought)you ever made manifested? Have you ever had an intention, loaded it with thought and positive attitude and happy emotion only to see it not manifest?

This is because thoughts do not create, emotions do not create and considering that they do, places an unecessary obstacle in the way of manifestation. Forget emotion, other than as a creation to enjoy manifestation it's not required for manifestation.

For faster manifestation, choice creates, everything else just gets in the way.

Choose it and it will be so.

Would it be more acurate to say that 'intention' creates, and emotions are a guage of how congruent your beliefs are with your intentions? But what initiates intentions (choice)? This sounds like the old parodox, what came first the chicken or the egg? If you are placing thoughts/emotions/passions into the 'creations' category, from whom/where do these creations arise? Who is the 'choser' and how does he chose? I'm not denying what you say has truth, but your truth raises some paradoxical questions that perhaps are beyond the scope of this forum.

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by tsouth

Who is the 'choser' and how does he chose? I'm not denying what you say has truth, but your truth raises some paradoxical questions that perhaps are beyond the scope of this forum.

Consciousness is the 'chooser'. You'll never know 'why' consciousness chooses what it chooses. You can't see manifestation happening with the mind (as you're trying to do now) because the mind is part of the manifestation.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by tsouth

Who is the 'choser' and how does he chose? I'm not denying what you say has truth, but your truth raises some paradoxical questions that perhaps are beyond the scope of this forum.

There is no paradox, there is no person, people who choose. People see themselves as creators, they are not, they, people, humans, your physical being is output, just like thought, emotion, growth, time and perception are output. This topic is very challenging for it takes the idea of existance and attempts to understand it.

Imagine you are consciousness (god if you want to label it badly) and you are perfect, but to appreciate your perfectness, you choose to create imperfection. That imperfection is everything you observe. You create yourself (physical you) to enjoy your creation, your imperfection.

You are observer and observation, you are the container aware of itself, you are observed and observer. Everything within your field of awareness is you, is your creation. Nothing outside your field of awareness exists.

Let's simplify. You/Consciousness (not human, not physical) are perfect, timeless and forever. Sounds great right? It is But because it's perfect, because you are perfect, you want to know what it's like to be imperfect. Your entire physical existance is that knowing of imperfection.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Dharma

Consciousness is the 'chooser'. You'll never know 'why' consciousness chooses what it chooses. You can't see manifestation happening with the mind (as you're trying to do now) because the mind is part of the manifestation.

Excellent Dharma, you're very close

"You'll never know 'why' consciousness chooses what it chooses"

Yes the mind is creation just like thought and emotion, but asking why consciousness made a choice is still denying you are consciousness and basically approaching it from a physical being POV.

All creation stems from consciousness, it's the old 'using you god powers to make yourself powerless' denial, you are god (it's not the best descriptive word) but you chose to be imperfect, to sense what it's like to not be you. All creative power is directly from consciousness and then it builds the illusion/denial of creative power to enjoy the experience.

You could admit truth, admit you are consciousness, but that is pointless for it ends the experience of imperfection. Choice creates, everything else (thought, emotion, feelings, mind) are creation themselves and you can't and don't create anything with them.

I have read with interest how some people say you can never see consciousness, never see it choosing, but that is denial, you can see it, you can sense and feel it, look to your immediate awareness, look to the container of (your) conscious creation, there it is, in all it's glory.

Your momentary awareness is consciousness, is you, instantly, constantly choosing and creating.

[torilink]

all possible possibilities already exist - it is a matter of choosing which "reality" you desire to experience. It is a choice, and with that choice we move into a state of being or from one possible reality into another. Personally I feel desire and choice work together, that true desire leads to choice - but then desire is a result of ego/body based perception and emotion. It is a circular system, which works opposite to how we believe "reality" works.

that is not to say that emotion and ego/physical perception don't play a role - they do

desire (this is stirred by our perceptions/experiences of past creations or your ego perceptions and memories of those experiences)

choice (this is a choosing of what we desire to create or which reality state we wish to experience - it isn't the physical choice in an "Objective" reality it is a choice of which possible reality we desire to experience.)

Imagination and emotion are tools to get to this choice, but they are tools and when we reach a point of conscious creation they are not as necessary as when learning to create our reality.

what intention, emotion, visualization do is assist in aligning with a new state of reality - because the LOA is set up to automatically answer these things in a like manner, for instance if you are in a life state and feel positive emotion, you get more of that experience. but this isn't creation of your reality it is the default mode for those in the illusion. As you begin to awaken to the fact you are the one creating your reality then you don't react to what your avatar perceives as reality - instead you imagine and choose what you desire to perceive, that is the secret. Perception when reactive to past experience is only observation, when you perceive a thing before you have experienced it, you are creating.

[Buttercup McToots]

I've seen and heard it in the distance in the back yard and the deeper forest. I always wanted to see it up close. I remember last week thinking to myself that I would love to see it up close. I stopped at the little store up the road from my house to buy milk. When I came out it flew right in front of me and landed on top of the light post. It sat there for about 5 min and I couldn't stop looking at it. It was as beautiful as I thought it would be.
Wow, just wow...

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

Imagination and emotion are tools to get to this choice, but they are tools and when we reach a point of conscious creation they are not as necessary as when learning to create our reality.

True and I would say that imagination and emotion are barriers to conscious choice, they are validators rather than being creative.

As you begin to awaken to the fact you are the one creating your reality then you don't react to what your avatar perceives as reality - instead you imagine and choose what you desire to perceive, that is the secret. Perception when reactive to past experience is only observation, when you perceive a thing before you have experienced it, you are creating.

Choose what you want to be true, to be reality. Desire is an emotion and therefore a creation and it's not creative. Physical beings don't create anything as they are creations themselves. Core conscious choice is the creator and physical being is the observation point. If we can bypass all the labels, processes and mechanisms that are not creative, then we can tap directly into conscious choice and create more efficiently.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Choose what you want to be true, to be reality.

this is where many hit a brick wall because they call this "denial" of "reality" but that is a misperception. only when I live in this moment and not look upon the past or what others may see as "reality" and decide for what I choose to be true can I step into a different state of being and into my creative center.

Desire is an emotion and therefore a creation and it's not creative. Physical beings don't create anything as they are creations themselves. Core conscious choice is the creator and physical being is the observation point. If we can bypass all the labels, processes and mechanisms that are not creative, then we can tap directly into conscious choice and create more efficiently.

desire is part of the creative feedback loop.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by Max Power

Choose what you want to be true, to be reality. Desire is an emotion and therefore a creation and it's not creative. Physical beings don't create anything as they are creations themselves. Core conscious choice is the creator and physical being is the observation point. If we can bypass all the labels, processes and mechanisms that are not creative, then we can tap directly into conscious choice and create more efficiently.

Max, how does this work in practical terms? If I want a reality of having 10 million dollars, a mansion and a yacht, do I just make a conscious choice to have it and 'Hey, presto!', it's there, before my very eyes?

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by torilink

desire is part of the creative feedback loop.

I see desire, thought, emotions, feelings and everything else except conscious choice as creations. Desire is a creation, it doesn't create anything, it's a validator of conscious choice and nothing more.

Like I've said before, physical existance is basically an observation point for conscious choice, you may think you creating stuff, but you're not. Just like people say that everything starts out as a thought, that is also incorrect, everything starts out as conscious choice, then you have all the perception of time, time delay, growth and so on and so forth.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by Cantando

Max, how does this work in practical terms? If I want a reality of having 10 million dollars, a mansion and a yacht, do I just make a conscious choice to have it and 'Hey, presto!', it's there, before my very eyes?

Exactly, having a belief system is useless unless it makes everything better (actually consciousness is just enjoying imperfection, but likes a challenge ) so we need to take what we learn and apply it.

Yes, you can have the money and the yacht instantly, sounds crazy right? It's not. Remember that C (we'll use C instead of writing out the big word, consciousness from here on in) is timeless and perfect and chooses physical reality to experience imperfection.

So C creates rules to govern it and maintain the perception of reality. Now everyone knows that $10M, mansion and yacht are possible right? It is obtainable right? All the gurus state this as true and fact and we all know that if we work and focus and think about it it will manifest right?

C creates in the present moment using conscious choice, it doesn't create in the past and not in the future, so technically you do create the mansion and money instantly in the moment and then C creates all the perceptions to maintain the physical reality, things like growth, time, time delay, feelings, thought.

You most probably can't wake up tomorrow with the money and boat (although I believe it's feasible) because it destroys the illusion and then the whole structure fails and the experience ends and you're back to perfection and that's not the point.

So how do we get the mansion, yacht and money as quickly as possible??? Simple choose for it to be so right now don't intend, don't think, don't emote, know it to be true. Know it like you know the sky is blue, like wind blows, like the sun shines. You have to know it and it will be so. You choose it at the fundamental conscious level.

Every argument against the simplicity of conscious choice is denial. You (C) are actually creating instantly all day long, but you just take it for granted, so when you choose something else that you haven't created before, you already have built in denial (like money is hard to make or takes a long time) so you have actually chosen a harder path to walk.

Most denial (a creation) is a required for growth (another creation) To create better, faster, more effectively, you must bypass all the creations that are in the way (thought, feelings, the need for growth) and simply choose it to be so.

Choose it, know it and it will be.

I believe that the LoA and IM are actually creations themselves and they don't create anything. Conscious choice is the only thing that creates, instantly right now, so cut through the clutter and tap directly into it, that is the only place where the power is, everything else is observation and perception.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by Max Power

C creates in the present moment using conscious choice, it doesn't create in the past and not in the future, so technically you do create the mansion and money instantly in the moment and then C creates all the perceptions to maintain the physical reality, things like growth, time, time delay, feelings, thought.

You most probably can't wake up tomorrow with the money and boat (although I believe it's feasible) because it destroys the illusion and then the whole structure fails and the experience ends and you're back to perfection and that's not the point.

So how do we get the mansion, yacht and money as quickly as possible??? Simple choose for it to be so right now don't intend, don't think, don't emote, know it to be true. Know it like you know the sky is blue, like wind blows, like the sun shines. You have to know it and it will be so. You choose it at the fundamental conscious level.

Max, I'm with you so far. From what I understand, I maintain a deep sense of 'knowing' that it is actual and real. Then, would opportunities begin to present themselves (e.g. a job offer out of the blue, or a new, business idea), without my having to consciously try and make things happen? Is that the way it is?

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Cantando

If I want a reality of having 10 million dollars, a mansion and a yacht,

My name is Cantando. I have 10 million dollars, a mansion and a yacht.

Because there is no time. You, at this instant, have that.
That is your reality.

Then why don't you see it?

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What are you deciding at all other instants of the day?
Do you see my point ?

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

My name is Cantando. I have 10 million dollars, a mansion and a yacht.

Because there is no time. You, at this instant, have that.
That is your reality.

Then why don't you see it?

Yes, I do see it, but do I have to focus on it 24/7 for it to become manifested in everyday reality? I don't want to have to work all hours for the next 30 years to achieve it, then be too old to enjoy it. How do I manifest it within a reasonably short space of time?

[absvan]

Originally Posted by Cantando

Yes, I do see it, but do I have to focus on it 24/7 for it to become manifested in everyday reality? I don't want to have to work all hours for the next 30 years to achieve it, then be too old to enjoy it. How do I manifest it within a reasonably short space of time?

Thats the hardest part for humans....well atleast for me .

THE SOLUTION - MINDFULNESS a.k.a. PRESENT MOMENT AWARENESS

Once you set out a choice, its manifested. Then you have all these thoughts that keep coming. The dominant thoughts that occupy you are based on your conditioning of your subconscious. Just stay detached. Just watch them come and go. Remember that your mind will keep sending out thoughts. But you are not your mind. By practising mindfulness you can be an observer and the one observed.

My conclusion is that, at the stage where you can experience a constant flow of present moment, you will realize that the 10 million dollars and yatch and not important anymore.....well I havent reached there yet and so dont know...

[Max Power]

It sounds weird I know, but to tap directly into conscious choice we have to let go of being human and get back some more of our conscious power. This can be difficult because when you start letting go of the human part of you, you start getting a little bit closer back to perfection and then you ask "do I really need any of these material things?"

Next thing you know you're sitting on a mountain top in a sheet dolling out advice for free Not a bad existance I suppose, helping others actually improving the imperfect state of consciousness on the physical plane, but what about my $10M?

Okay, by the numbers......

Cantando
Max, I'm with you so far. From what I understand, I maintain a deep sense of 'knowing' that it is actual and real. Then, would opportunities begin to present themselves (e.g. a job offer out of the blue, or a new, business idea), without my having to consciously try and make things happen? Is that the way it is?

Like I said before, when you know it's true (like you know the sky is blue) nothing will stop it being true and not much effort will be required, Yes you observe changes taking place, but you won't be doing any of the changes, you will react to them with thought and emotion, but to the creative part is consciousness providing. Now I'm not saying you can sit on the couch and manifest $10M, while that is how it works, you must mainain the illusion to keep the reality stable and stop you falling back into perfection and game over. Remember there is no try or attempt, when the choice is made it is so.

From how I see it, emotion can actually deaden conscious choice especially in the money department. that's why so many people have a huge problem with getting money, there's massive amounts of emotion involved. Knowing requires no emoton.

Yes, I do see it, but do I have to focus on it 24/7 for it to become manifested in everyday reality? I don't want to have to work all hours for the next 30 years to achieve it, then be too old to enjoy it. How do I manifest it within a reasonably short space of time?

Choice is not focus, focus describes intent, thought and emotion, human beings do not need to focus on what they want, that is the illusion. Let's say you intend and thing and focus and emote and nothing, what happened?? You didn't choose it, you stacked all these unecessary things ontop and forget to do the only thing you need to do and that is to choose it.

Choice creates, everything else is a creation to justify choice, you don't create through creations, they are just fillers, to allude to physical being creation. People don't create, it may look like they do, but they don't. Consious choice creates and then also creates the person working, slaving, thinking, emoting etc to maintain the illusion that that peson create stuff.

IFT
Because there is no time. You, at this instant, have that.
That is your reality.Then why don't you see it?What are you deciding at all other instants of the day? Do you see my point ?

Exactly, there is no time, you can't create in the past and you can't create in the future, they are also parts of the perception/illusion of reality. Why don't you see it? Because you require growth (another creation of consciousness) and the perception will render the exact amount of growth you require. How can someone make $10M in 3 months and someone else takes 3 years?? because each person requires a different amount of growth.

Just like emotion, you can fast track attainment if you bypass the perceived need for growth. Just admit you don't need it, it's not required.

Absvan
Once you set out a choice, its manifested. Then you have all these thoughts that keep coming. The dominant thoughts that occupy you are based on your conditioning of your subconscious. Just stay detached. Just watch them come and go. Remember that your mind will keep sending out thoughts. But you are not your mind. By practising mindfulness you can be an observer and the one observed.

Just stay detached, exactly right, let go of being human and grounded in reality (don't lose your mind though ) to access consious choice you have to let go of much of the human condition, thought, emotion, passion, fear etc. Consciousness creates these things to maintain imperfection, but in doing that it gives up some power, to access more power, you have to bypass the creations that make it imperfect, you have to align more with consciousness with perfection, but at the same time maintain the perceptions of reality.

The mind can allude to creation, it may seem like it creates, but it does so in a way that is difficult and denial. If you can accept that conscious choice is the creative source, the creative force, then you must align yourself with it more to access it more and that means bypassing all the consious creations that are required for reality but actually cloud and get in the way.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by Max Power

I see desire, thought, emotions, feelings and everything else except conscious choice as creations. Desire is a creation, it doesn't create anything, it's a validator of conscious choice and nothing more.

Like I've said before, physical existance is basically an observation point for conscious choice, you may think you creating stuff, but you're not. Just like people say that everything starts out as a thought, that is also incorrect, everything starts out as conscious choice, then you have all the perception of time, time delay, growth and so on and so forth.

exactly - desire is sparked within the illusion by perceptions, thoughts, feelings, emotions and so on. this is usually ego/avatar based desire.

but all these steps (physical perception, thoughts, feelings, desire) are part of the "Feedback" loop (collection of data by my observation point as you call it) which then can be the data used to for a new choice.