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Old 05-31-2007, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Manifesting winning the lottery just by willing it

I am interested in manifesting winning the lottery. I have been reading much on the subject and i am convinced that i will. Just by willing it and doing nothing except buying tickets. I am interested in how long this will take. I already believe i have won. I have prepared myself by thinking it through down to every detail. Seeing myself winning, seeing the money in my bank account, planning out the financial team, even deciding where to spread my wealth. I have intended this desire with so much emotion, I weep when I feel the intensity of my desire already happened. So, how long until I win??? I expect every time the lottery is drawn that I am already the winner. In the realm of all possibilites, I have already won. In the physical I have yet to see it happen. I am very interested in how long manifestation takes. Any takers?
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Default You have already won the lottery!

Here you are, in this incredibly wonderful moment, with a brain in your head, abilities and ambitions galore, full of love, joy and peace! You are a winner!

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Old 05-31-2007, 06:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The true winner is the one who stops desiring things.
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The true winner is the one who stops desiring things.
No.
If your body did that....... you'd starve to death.

Same thing with your 'Zest for life'.

If you stop desiring experiences, you shrivel up.
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I hate to spoil the party, but you will not increase your changes with intension/manifestation hype where pure mathemathical laws apply.
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The true winner is the one who stops desiring things.
...I was told that welfare was not such a happy state...

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Note, that I do believe in intention/manifestation.

However IMHO my belief is, that we cannot intent to win the lottery. Ok, we can intent, but our chances will stay the same. 1 per paid combination/whole combinations. Even if I am the only one, who bought ticket for lottery my chances of winning it will not increase even if I am intending to win the lottery whole week. This is unproductive, irrational, harmful way of looking at intention/manifestation. You could spend thousand of € that way. Rather invest that money.
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Bole yo ucontradict yourself. You say that you believe in LoA then you say it doesn't work. Is something getting lost in translation here?
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Bole yo ucontradict yourself. You say that you believe in LoA then you say it doesn't work. Is something getting lost in translation here?
Not really.

I believe that LoA works to some degree. But I sure can exclude irrational use of LoA like intenting to win lottery. Which ain't gonna happen because of LoA. IMHO.

It is like subjective reality. You can fully believe in it. You can partially believe in it. Or not believe in it. It is a scale, .... 0 - 100 if you want. I sure am not on a 100 bandwagon on either.
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Well ok. I believe in the Law of Gravity. If I jump off a tall building I will fall to my death. but if I jump off a wall I will float down. So yeah.
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I am very interested in how long manifestation takes. Any takers?
I'm interested in this manifestation experiment too. As I understand it, we must leave behind the questions of "how long" or "why isn't it here yet" in order to keep clear our resistance to receiving. (Basically, those types of questions focus attention on the lack of something, which will thereby manifest more of that lack.)

I know that when I have manifested things I have intended, it always happened when I was was either thinking about that thing, or not thinking of the lack of that thing.

Continue focusing upon the having of your desire. The fact that you are taking yourself to the feeling place of it already happening, is a really good thing, and I think you are on the right track. I'll be very interested to see how it comes out.
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I hate to spoil the party, but you will not increase your changes with intension/manifestation hype where pure mathemathical laws apply.
There's a discrepancy in that statement.

For example, 'A' can be created/manifested, but not 'B'.

Now, if 'A' can be created/manifested why not 'B'?
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Note, that I do believe in intention/manifestation.

However IMHO my belief is, that we cannot intent to win the lottery. Ok, we can intent, but our chances will stay the same. 1 per paid combination/whole combinations. Even if I am the only one, who bought ticket for lottery my chances of winning it will not increase even if I am intending to win the lottery whole week. This is unproductive, irrational, harmful way of looking at intention/manifestation. You could spend thousand of € that way. Rather invest that money.
Bole - I agree with you... LoA does work but teaching LoA in a fundamentalists way does more arm than good... Literally million of people are manifesting winning the lottery... and it never worked before... why should it start working now...???

And if anyone does not believer that last statement... tell me how come that if someone could manifest winning the lottery that same person could not do it constantly...???

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I agree with Bole. Intention is law, just like mathematics, just like so many other laws being enforced in this world. You can't overrun the rest of them just because you want something, or because you think IM will work now that you are aware of it. It's too complex to simplify to one law.
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What is with this whole "winning the lottery" theme that we see here in millions of threads?

Why don't you spend your time manifesting something useful?
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What is with this whole "winning the lottery" theme that we see here in millions of threads?

Why don't you spend your time manifesting something useful?
I'll second that...

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Is a little funny one should believe the one who wants it the most would win(if u believe SR/Loa is absolute truth)but I can testify it isnt, my neighbours won the 1prize lottery while they were on vacation and didnt even think about it
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I am interested in manifesting winning the lottery. I have been reading much on the subject and i am convinced that i will. Just by willing it and doing nothing except buying tickets. I am interested in how long this will take. I already believe i have won. I have prepared myself by thinking it through down to every detail. Seeing myself winning, seeing the money in my bank account, planning out the financial team, even deciding where to spread my wealth. I have intended this desire with so much emotion, I weep when I feel the intensity of my desire already happened. So, how long until I win??? I expect every time the lottery is drawn that I am already the winner. In the realm of all possibilites, I have already won. In the physical I have yet to see it happen. I am very interested in how long manifestation takes. Any takers?
Here's a couple of things for you OneSpirit.

1). Why do you desire so much money...(I am pretty sure your reasons are honourable and good here)?
2). If you got it, would you not live fear of ever losing it again? (I know of 2 millionaire and they have both said to me, the one thing they fear most would be losing their wealth. If you were living in fear of losing it, would that be as powerful as you desiring the money in the first place, then you may attract loss).
3). Is it happiness or money you desire most?
4). Are you happy just now?

Since you hope you win it, I hope you win it too.

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Well ok. I believe in the Law of Gravity. If I jump off a tall building I will fall to my death. but if I jump off a wall I will float down. So yeah.

Gravity = natural phenomenon, law, without exceptions.
LoA = A Concept designed to help us better understand the nature of reality.

Big time difference.
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There's a discrepancy in that statement.

For example, 'A' can be created/manifested, but not 'B'.

Now, if 'A' can be created/manifested why not 'B'?

Like I said above LoA like I see it is nothing more than a concept. It is not a law like gravity, but rather tool to help us.

The only way, where "universe can help you win the lottery" is that you will be "guided by third force" to put down correct numbers. And I am not buying that.

Do not take that concept so literary, ... if I intent to double my net worth in the next year I will likely take appropriate action and LoA will work. But if I wash the money down the toilet and hope that my numbers will pop up on the lottery only because of the LoA, ... khm
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I am interested in manifesting winning the lottery. I have been reading much on the subject and i am convinced that i will. s. Any takersJust by willing it and doing nothing except buying tickets.
I tried to manifest that, too. But later on, thinking about it, I realized I would never win, at least not by the subjective-reality hypothesis. I really didn't want to.

You may think that's stupid, but after giving it much thought, I arrived to that conclusion. I didn't want to win the lottery. In fact, I didn't want that much money. I was just scared of lacking money, that's why I played. But in fact, I didn't want to tell the world "I got rich by winning a lottery". I realized that I'd much rather tell the world "I can live off my ideas". Which is difficult, and I haven't managed to do it yet... But, however, when I realized that I really didn't want to win the lottery, but earn the money on my own, I stopped playing. If my subconscious is boycotting me, I will never win. So I quitted. I'm telling you this because, you see, we are supposed to have a purpose in life. If getting money isn't related to that, but you want it only because you are afraid of not having it, it may not work. You must make sure you want it before you ask it, added unwanted consequences included. Or your own mind will betray you and stop you.
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What is with this whole "winning the lottery" theme that we see here in millions of threads?

Why don't you spend your time manifesting something useful?
So having money is "not useful" ?

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Gravity = natural phenomenon, law, without exceptions.
Natural law is something you've agreed to.

The key word is agree.

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The only way, where "universe can help you win the lottery" is that you will be "guided by third force" to put down correct numbers. And I am not buying that.
If you're thinking the "universe can help you win the lottery" you've just stepped outside your subjective universe and into the false view...........that you're in an objective universe.

Everyone is in their own subjective universes.

There is no the universe.

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Whatever one's desires are, why not believe they can and will be manifested? You asked why i wanted to manifest winning. A deep desire to become an instant multimillionaire, feeling the experience of winning instant money, the challenges and choices I have already thought about, living my life with absolute financial freedom, financial empowerment, financial abundance. These are desires to have, be and do all i can as a spirit here in body, right now. so,,, my fellow spirits, what is wrong with a desire to have a fuller, enriched, powerful life filled with financial resourses at my disposal??? My desire to win is so I can have instant freedom to live my life as I dream it. I am wondering if i am telling the universe how to achieve this, I just guess I feel the shortest route to my desires is through the experience of being the lottery winner. It is about the experience of feeling truly free and empowered here and now. Right?? To be free financially to do, be and have one must have the tool of wealth, Right???
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what is wrong with a desire to have a fuller, enriched, powerful life filled with financial resourses at my disposal???
Absolutley nothing.
Follow your desires, it's your world.

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i am telling the universe how to achieve this,
Thats the short circuit.

You still believe in the universe.
You are in your own universe, as is every one else.
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If you're thinking the "universe can help you win the lottery" you've just stepped outside your subjective universe and into the false view...........that you're in an objective universe.

Everyone is in their own subjective universes.

There is no the universe.
Well I am not buying subjective reality as a 100% correct answer to nature of reality either, therefore my opinion is, we will not reach an agreement

One should always consider possibility, that his core beliefs are wrong. If subjective reality explanation is not 100% true nature of reality you will make big mistakes due to this. Like lying in bed and "manifesting" million dollars.
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Well I am not buying subjective reality as a 100% correct answer to nature of reality either, therefore my opinion is, we will not reach an agreement

One should always consider possibility, that his core beliefs are wrong. If subjective reality explanation is not 100% true nature of reality you will make big mistakes due to this. Like lying in bed and "manifesting" million dollars.
.......or sitting in your chair manifesting and out of the blue you're offered a better job, a piece of furniture that you've been manifesting shows up in your reality, a new relationship you've been manifesting, the means to buy a newer model car, the means to pay an outstanding bill, etc, etc, etc.

What's the difference, Bole ?
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.......or sitting in your chair manifesting and out of the blue you're offered a better job, a piece of furniture that you've been manifesting shows up in your reality, a new relationship you've been manifesting, the means to buy a newer model car, the means to pay an outstanding bill, etc, etc, etc.

What's the difference, Bole ?
Difference is, that where intention/manifestitation works, you align your actions with your intentions and results are manifestations of you intentions.

But intention to win the loterry will not increase you chances of actualy winning it. Paid combinations/whole combinations is your probability and you can only increase your chances by buying more tickets. But you cannot align your actions with this intention.
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Paid combinations/whole combinations is your probability
"Probabilites" and the "calculations of the odds" has been given to you by words outside your reality.

It's your reality, do with it what you want.......as bizarre as that sounds.

But then existance is a beautiful mystery.
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So having money is "not useful" ?
Mind you, no one's saying that. Money is damn useful. I am just warning you that if you don't really want it, your subconscious is going to kick your conscious intention into oblivion.

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My desire to win is so I can have instant freedom to live my life as I dream it. I am wondering if i am telling the universe how to achieve this, I just guess I feel the shortest route to my desires is through the experience of being the lottery winner. It is about the experience of feeling truly free and empowered here and now. Right?? To be free financially to do, be and have one must have the tool of wealth, Right???
If you truly want that, it should manifest. Problem is... beware. You may NOT feel free and empowered just because you have money. You may become afraid of losing it and not having it. It happened to me. I wanted it that bad so I could quit my day job, that my finances suffered from external incidents. You just can't want it so you are not afraid of having money. You have a purpose in live, and it's difficult that it is "to make a million dollars". If you intend without fear, it should work. I'm only warning you that you may be boycotting yourself from the inside. Do you want money to feel empowered, or do you feel disempowered without it? Why can't you feel empowered without money? I am only saying that, if you don't have that stuff clear, it won't happen. If you have it all clear, it should be a matter of time, please tell us when you win
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