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Old 07-10-2007, 02:37 AM
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Ego sees "Reality" or NOW as the effect of a previous cause, using physical perception to interpret the past. It then projects reality through its (mis)perceptions, by bringing the past into the present - the past is cause and now is the effect.
Well said TL, people remember the past (which doesn't exist) and then they transplant the past (choice of thought/memory) into the now and replicate the past, hence the entire experience continues.

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Consciousness creates first by perceiving (choosing) what is desired NOW (cause), then that reality is created (effect).
Choose it now, know it is now and then watch now become now.

The real trick is to wipe your memory of the past, you can't go there, there's not much that can be used from it, so it's mostly useless. If more people lost the past and just chose and thought in the now, then the entire experience would improve.

Consciousness creates in the now, people are output of consciousness, so there isn't much point living anywhere else.

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Thanx for the responses guys. Well formed input like those two posts are always appreciated.
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But eventually I realized I was wasting my time, as I hope you will realize too.

It's not the money you want, its the freedom to live life as you desire.
You just nailed it. I wanted money so I could pay the mortgage and other bills, and forget about such worries, so I really didn't want money, but independence, freedom... And to stop being scared of lacking money in the future. I also wanted to help my friends who can't buy a home with the last raise in home prices, but then again, I want to help everyone who can't buy a home, since it's such an unfair situation. When I realized the problems were fear of not having money and hatred towards the injustice of the house-pricing bubble, I understood I'd never win. Because winning the lottery was not the solution: the solution was facing my fears and fighting the unfair rise of house prices (though the latter is a hard one).
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I understood I'd never win. Because winning the lottery was not the solution: the solution was facing my fears.
Don't take this personally, but I think that's a cop out. If I said to you. 'You can win $5 million dollars in the lottery today or I'll give you an idea that will guarantee $5 million dollars in 5 years after a lot of work and stress, but ultimate success, would you really take the 5 years?

However anyone answers that question, will determine how challenging they want life to be. While there's nothing wrong with hard work and success, it's mostly a social conditioned, media intensive brain washing illusion.

Get rich quick! Why the *bleep* would anyone desire to get rich slowly.

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Who said that I ever asked...??? I saw it in the Universe... worked my butt off with passion... and got it...

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There is a difference between Ego striving and toiling and consciousness creating.

I do believe I can visualize and create my winning the lotto -without buying a ticket. Only the choice and belief is for me to determine, the path of unfoldment or birth of my desire is up to consciousness (usually the easiest path).

I could find a ticket on the ground, get a card from a friend with a ticket in it, someone could buy one for me without my knowledge, or about a hundred other things I cannot fathom at the moment. My point is that I've read of many people who've won the lottery with a ticket they didn't purchase. Most said it was an answer to prayer as they had been focusing on receiving money and then BOOM, there it is.

This stuff happens every day to someone.

ask and believe.

one little caveat: If your desire is to lead a life of leisure and financial freedom, that doesn't necessarily have to come about by winning the lottery - to define how financial freedom must come about is one of the biggest "errors" in the LOA - you simply choose your desired state and imagine it as being so. Consciousness will take care of the how.
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There is a difference between Ego striving and toiling and consciousness creating.
Correct. Imagine you can place an order with the universe and you get to choose wether the process will be easy of hard. You might say you want a million dollars as easy as possible, but you'll observe it being difficult everywhere you turn, so that's what you'll instruct, so you may get it but it won't be easy.

Not only do we have to observe already having it, but we have to validate it being easy, if that's the way we want it. You can't say you want a million dollars and then observe and think it will be hard and then wonder why it's not happening.

You build the whole thing and affect the whole process with choice but validation is important to stablise choice. If you truly wanted a million dollars and you wanted it as easy as possible you would see that you had it already and that it also wasn't difficult.

It's the fundamental beliefs that rule our physical lives and they are the one's we have to change.

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If your desire is to lead a life of leisure and financial freedom, that doesn't necessarily have to come about by winning the lottery - to define how financial freedom must come about is one of the biggest "errors" in the LOA - you simply choose your desired state and imagine it as being so.
Good point…I think the biggest challenge with “manifesting” a lottery win is believing that it is actually possible for you to win. Letting go can also be challenging.

I think most people believe that winning a huge lottery is a big deal; that alone creates a lot of resistance. If one thinks that, something is a big deal, than it is.

The common argument against winning a lottery seems to be that the odds are not on your side. That may be true, but what about the odds of becoming a millionaire through traditional means – i.e., hard work, having your own business, etc?

How many millionaires are in the U.S. today? I have not done actual calculations, but I suspect that the odds of becoming a millionaire by using traditional means of getting there are not that different from winning a lottery.

Yet, I believe, most people are more comfortable with the idea that they can become a millionaire in the U.S. with a lot of hard work.

Assuming my speculation is true, the real issue with winning a lottery, as with anything else we would like to achieve, seems to be our belief system.
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Assuming my speculation is true, the real issue with winning a lottery, as with anything else we would like to achieve, seems to be our belief system.
People have been programmed since birth to acccept that money is not easy to make. That is a fundamental belief, if we change our fundamental beliefs then everything else will change.

It's not the easiest thing in the world to do, but it can be done.

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People have been programmed since birth to acccept that money is not easy to make. That is a fundamental belief, if we change our fundamental beliefs then everything else will change.

It's not the easiest thing in the world to do, but it can be done.

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I completely agree. The “money is not easy to make” programming certainly plays an important part, but there is something else.

Fear. Money is fear, fear of not having enough to sustain your basic needs. And fear creates a lot of resistance and negative energy. Fear also breads on itself. Hence, for the most part, we come to money from fear. That can’t be good, can it?

When we fear something, we are not good at creating, which seems to explain why many people have money troubles.
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When we fear something, we are not good at creating, which seems to explain why many people have money troubles.
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It's not so much the fear, but the focus.

When you fear something, just like when you love something, there is a constant focus, so the focus is really just thought validating the choice.

Make a choice (not to have money) add constant thought (to validate choice) and manifestation happens.

Simply and very effective

Enjoy!
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Now I'm confused now people are saying LoA doesn't work for everything. I didn't read the thread, but how can you explain why it looks like you're contradicting yourselves?
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Now I'm confused now people are saying LoA doesn't work for everything. I didn't read the thread, but how can you explain why it looks like you're contradicting yourselves?
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Whenever I write, it's from my own POV. Others have their own POV, you need to take what you read and form your own POV.....it's called choice.

As for the LoA/IM, I consider they are drawn out overly complex versions of CM (choice-manifestation) and CM is working 24/7 it never turns off.

People don't like it becuase it means everything in your today is a creation of your choice and most people only want responsibility when things are going great, not when things go bad.

You can't have it both ways (I believe)......it's either all your choice or none of it is.

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That's what I was saying though. How can you say it works for some things but not the lottery?

I actually wasn't trying to direct that comment at you.
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That's what I was saying though. How can you say it works for some things but not the lottery?

I actually wasn't trying to direct that comment at you.
It does work for everything, it does work for the lottery.........but it's all the fundamental beliefs that build reality. If you have a fundamental belief you can't win the lottey using the LoA, then that will be true and nothing can override that except a new fundamental belief.

Nothing is stronger than a fundamental belief, but all it really is......is a repetitive choice.

You didn't direct your question at me, but if you see here, I'm a big egotistical smartypants......I comment on just about everything in this topic.............

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This topic is really going to vreate a heck of a debate, because it contains so many conflicting ideas and beliefs I think.

To attract something, you must desire it strongly.
If you desire something too much, you'll push it away.

The LOA can bring almost anything into your life
Don't expect to win the lottery by just desiring to win it.

You must work hard bring what you want
You are working too hard to attract what you want.

These are just basic observations not a critism against the idea or the posters.

I would like to know who support what ideas and who supports the other ideas and why.

One reason is, I have read of examples of people who claimed they tried a technique or even listened to some technology and won the lottery afterwards.

The other, the idea of wanting to win the lottery for money is almost faulty, if not wrong is also interesting.

My opinion is that money is just a tool like many other things we use. You can use a hammer to build, destroy, create, rescue things, and store it for later use, just like money- ironically hammers are cheap yet valuable! We still use them everyday.

Hammers are not considered evil, or connected with fear, though we use hammers probably as much as money if you think about it. It's only what emotion or concept that an individual applies to money that determines what they think of it.

There are definetly some truths-what people do for money, but overgeneralizing about what money is may be the problem.

In order to win the lottery, you have to get out, buy the ticket. That's at least some effort. (But if you want to manifest going out to buy a lottery ticket, you're in trouble lol)

And if you are visualizating, acting like you have it now,"feeling positive, affirming, relaxing, repeatedly and it still has not happened, what is the message?

Before I comment further I would like to read other people's opinions about this topic.

Either way, good luck, hope you win....
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I personally think one of the major problems with manifesting something big, like winning the lottery is the sheer amount of complication surrounding it. Our attitude towards money is very much Love-Hate, and it would take a lot of work to dissolve those feelings.

I would suggest to anyone wanting a lot of money that they write down all the consequences of having it. Then I would suggest they work through the negativity that surrounds having a lot of money. Writing down and dispelling those negative feelings can only strengthen your creation.

I've been experimenting with manifesting simple pound coins (about $2 a time). Since I have no negative emotions attached to such a small amount of money I'm finding them everywhere!

Even if you don't win the lottery, you'll feel better about money. Not only that, money will come easier now you feel more positive about it!
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Our job is never the how. So if you wanted to get rich and to do it as fast as possible with the least amount of effort, then you would buy (within reason) lottery tickets, while all the same time making the choice to be rich.

If you don't know the how, but the goal, then you would be best to cover all the bases and look for the reflections and that may include winning the lottery. Intending is like water, when properly released, it always takes the shortest route. You wouldn't gamble all your money away, because you only need one line of numbers to win, gambling all the time or big amounts is desperation and trying choke the outcome into reality, the creative source doesn't respond to desperation because desperation is doubt.

The only peolple who don't buy the occasionaly affordable lottery tickets are those who think get rich quick is wrong and those that don't believe winning the lottery is possible.

Mainfestation is easy and fast........denial and doubt are forever.

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I was thinking about the lottery. If I came into so much money all at once, I saw all the negative consequences. Notoriety, people you don't know too well asking for money, and probably the WORST for most people, people being envious of you and thinking you don't deserve it. I'm sure this is in many a mind when buying a lottery ticket... it's been in mine. All those thoughts would have to repel it. Just an observation.

Maybe a month or so ago I saw a show on E! called something like "Curse of the Lottery". Of course they have to sensationalize it like that, because it ties into the ego/us verses them mentality "those dumb lottery winners will never know happiness because of that money, I may not be rich but I know what matters in life etc."

ANYWAY, there were a few negative stories, but some were positive. What sticks out most in my mind was this nice old lady who bought a scratcher ticket and won like a million dollars from it, did nice things for her family. Then she goes to the same place she bought the ticket and bought ANOTHER winning ticket. And there are other people who have won more than once. There has to be something more to it than just odds. They must have adapted to the mindset of abundance, and then the floodgates open.
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i've only just discovered this site tonight and been skimming steve's post for about an hour or so, and obviously the types of advice steve gives are not geared toward something like winning the lottery...

if you think that you can manipulate lottery turnouts by willing it to happen, you're in for a huge letdown. from what i've read about the law of attraction, it's more of an individual excercise used to improve your outlook and your way of thinking
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from what i've read about the law of attraction, it's more of an individual excercise used to improve your outlook and your way of thinking
I think you'll find that the LoA is a constant state of every present moment. It's hardly something you can turn on or off. It doesn't work sometimes, just when you need it or when things are good or bad, you attract everything in your life through your thoughts/choices and that includes winning the lottery.

Everything else is denial of power, deny of control......you can give up control, but you can never give up responsibility.

It's not about manipulating the lottery results.........it's about choosing what you truly require and trusting the creative power to deliver it as fast as possible, if that means winning the lottery, then so be it..........

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This is an irrational request, it will never happen. Start small with $20, once you learn to do that you can move the amount up. Crawl, walk, run then sprint.

Consider intending to win the Daytona 500 with no backround in racing .... duh!


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