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Old 06-24-2007, 07:31 PM   #61 (permalink)
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The problem is you mix it up by thinking that the more you want something the more you'll get it. When in fact, it's the exact opposite.
That is so beautifully said and so true... especially about money...

Donald Trump wants to be the biggest real estate developer in the world... he does not care all that much about money... he said himself that he's not after making money... but about making a statement...

Same thing with Tony Robbins... he gets his charge by helping people and not by counting his money...

If you focus on what you want to accomplish and not on what you want to get... you'll earn a bundle... it not, you'll join the ranks of those who will eventually have to say, "I tried, and I tried, and I tried... but it did not work..."

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Old 06-24-2007, 09:52 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I love your goal of winning the lottery.
In addition to your visualization of your feelings as a lottery winner, i suggest that you change your beliefs about the posibilities of winning.
Brainwash yourself everyday with phrases like "i win the lottery often" "the more I play the biggest my winnings" etc.
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"the more I play the biggest my winnings" etc.
That's the best advice you can follow if you want to finish in the poorhouse...

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Old 06-25-2007, 12:45 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I imagine that the power of intention is similar to the LOA thing many of you talk about. The problem is you mix it up by thinking that the more you want something the more you'll get it. When in fact, it's the exact opposite.
That's why a simple choice can move mountains and all the thought in the world can have little or no effect. Knowing something to be true is not the same as thinking it's true. Choice creates, thought validates. Having multiple thoughts can aid in validating the choice, the knowing of something to be true, but thoughts don't create.

Your point about want is interesting, it's a fine line between wanting something and focusing on it's lack. The word want implies lack. Instead of saying 'I want this' or 'I will have this' I would say "I choose to have this now" We only create in the moment anyway, so might as well place the order in the present

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Old 06-25-2007, 01:49 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Actually if you do the whole process of IM correctly, you will probably win the lottery at some point. The thing is though, a big intention like this is very hard to manifest because of the sheer resistance our thought process and logic tell us. There is a difference between wishful thinking and actually attempting to manifest. Read Steve's articles about IM to see what I mean if you have not.

Not having a shred of a doubt about winning the lottery is a very difficult thing. The amount of money spent on lottery tickets will be astronomical, and may carry alot of emotional baggage. Trust me, it's not like you can just turn on a switch in your brian and say "See ya" to your natural thought proceses and logic right away. It takes time.

I personally don't think its worth it, it's a very risky intention to fulfill and there are much more efficient ways to use the LoA for financial prosperity. Just me $0.02
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What is the big deal about winning the lottery...???

There are currently over 8,700,000 millionaires (in U.S. money) in the world... and how many did it by winning the lottery...???

And, to make matters worse... most people who do win the lottery are dead broke a few years after winning it...

So, it there are over 8,700,000 millionaires... it also means that there are over 8,700,000 ways of doing it... so, why chose the lottery.... How about using a little imagination here...???

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Old 06-25-2007, 02:25 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:24 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Whatever one's desires are, why not believe they can and will be manifested? You asked why i wanted to manifest winning. A deep desire to become an instant multimillionaire, feeling the experience of winning instant money, the challenges and choices I have already thought about, living my life with absolute financial freedom, financial empowerment, financial abundance. These are desires to have, be and do all i can as a spirit here in body, right now. so,,, my fellow spirits, what is wrong with a desire to have a fuller, enriched, powerful life filled with financial resourses at my disposal??? My desire to win is so I can have instant freedom to live my life as I dream it. I am wondering if i am telling the universe how to achieve this, I just guess I feel the shortest route to my desires is through the experience of being the lottery winner. It is about the experience of feeling truly free and empowered here and now. Right?? To be free financially to do, be and have one must have the tool of wealth, Right???
When I first saw the movie "The Secret" it made me change the way I thought about things. I had the idea of winning the lottery. After a while, I began to pursue it. I did EVERYTHING to bring myself into alignment to win. I spent 30-60 minutes EVERYDAY visualizing myself holding the winning ticket as the numbers were called on tv. I visualized my life with riches, and abundance, and visualized everything I would do with the money. I believed 100% i would win and no one could tell me otherwise. I meditated, visualized, affirmed, and emotionlized winning the lottery for 2 months. Nothing happened. I would sometimes match the first and last number (pick 6 mega millions) and sometimes get the first two, which gave me hope. But eventually I realized I was wasting my time, as I hope you will realize too.

It's not the money you want, its the freedom to live life as you desire. Don't go after the money. Most likely you won't get it. Sorry to disappoint you. You may want to reconsider your intention. You may be wishing for the wrong thing. The money may give you total freedom, and you will be rich, but it can't buy happiness which from what it sounds like, is what you are truly after.

Strive for happiness and freedom to live life as you choose, and let reality manifest itself according to your TRUE DESIRE. Don't think you'll win the lottery, thats a complete waste of time.
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This subject is actually addressed directly in one of my favorite LOA collections (I believe the one in my signature link). The question asked in the book is do you want to be rescued? The author claims that winning the lottery is the same as being rescued, or inheriting the money. Will that give you the satisfaction you need and provide you with what you are looking for? Is the end desire the satisfaction of beating the odds, or having the lifestyle? If it's the lifestyle you really want, then listen to what many others have said - focus on that lifestyle but not on how it will happen.
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Don't think you'll win the lottery, thats a complete waste of time.
No kidding...???

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I have been thinking that way since Mother's day , I have purchased 6 - 649 tickets one each week , and out of the 6 tickets purchased I have won 4 free tickets

to me those odds are not bad...... I am still in the game , I see myself able to pay for my step daughters wedding in Sept, I see my bakery and possibly my "soup Kettle" opened up...... I see another cruise in the near future

feelings have nothing what so ever to do with this, it is almost like feelings* have seperated themselves from this happening - totally seperate just my vision ( picture) of it all happening, I see the responses from family , after the winnings, I hear the nay saying responses now.......
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I just read about the desire for winning the lottery. And I am a little confused by some of the reactions. Is this whole concept not based on law of attraction and do you not preach that all you have to do is as for it and it is yours. That we create what we want in our lives. I understand what she is saying, visualizing and really seeing how it would change her life. Is that not what this is all about. You know for so many years I have seen people around me get things with great ease, some not so nice either. So how is it that good things happen for bad people, and yet the nicest person gets stepped on. I think there is a little bit of confusion in your theory. I understand or at least think I understand why I am still in the rut I am in. I have never felt like I deserved better, that stems from some pretty cruel words as a child. Unfortunately we take those negative thoughts with us throughout our lives, the bad is always easier to believe. But I have finally just begun to train my mind to erase all that negative thinking. And now here I am in a forum that just crushed a woman by one negative sentence. You told her it would never happen. Why not. Isnt that what has been preached here. Ask for what you want visualise what you would do, feel how it would feel, attract that from the universe and you will recieve it. So please clear that up for me and for the woman that believes she will win. You just keep seeing it I hope you get all you want.
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And now here I am in a forum that just crushed a woman by one negative sentence. You told her it would never happen. Why not. .
Clear concise points you brought up, wctucker.

The reason behind the ones responding negatively is, they've not fully learned the meaning of you live in your own Subjective Reality.

You don't live in someone else's objective reality, (as corporate owned Media likes to portray), you don't live in someone else's subjective reality, (as religion likes to portray) but in your own Subjective Reality.

If a person bring up words like "The statistical odds are more in favor of you birthing a cow, then winning the lottery", well then what is that person's worldview who says that?


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It's not the money you want, its the freedom to live life as you desire. Don't go after the money. Most likely you won't get it. Sorry to disappoint you. You may want to reconsider your intention. You may be wishing for the wrong thing. The money may give you total freedom, and you will be rich, but it can't buy happiness which from what it sounds like, is what you are truly after.
Exactly! That's the key thing most people seem to miss.
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We are not asking for happiness in this thread.
We are asking for money.
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We are not asking for happiness in this thread.
We are asking for money.
Why? What is the money going to get you in the end? Happiness?
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Most likely you won't get it.
Thats a very strange statement.
Most likely you won't get it.

If you're saying that you don't understand who or what you are.

You are pure emptiness, that can fill itself at any moment however it feels like.
You want money, fill in the blanks.

Simple.
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We are not asking for happiness in this thread.
We are asking for money.
You can ask for money until the cows come home and you won't get any if you don't take massive action to get that money... and if you think that money will automatically bring you happiness think again...

I can list you at least twenty people who had money and fame who killed themselves because they had such miserable lives that they could not take it anymore... you could start with Marilyn Monroe, all the way to writer Ernest Hemingway...

Money is only a tool... not a producer of happiness as most people think...

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Why? What is the money going to get you in the end? Happiness?
Of course it'll bring happiness.
On one condition.

The person is already happy.
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You can ask for money until the cows come home
Who are you asking to give you said money, Shamou ?
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Who are you asking to give you said money, Shamou ?
Who said that I ever asked...??? I saw it in the Universe... worked my butt off with passion... and got it...

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Who said that I ever asked...??? I saw it in the Universe... worked my butt off with passion... and got it...

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You missed the context of my question.
You said;

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You can ask for money until the cows come home
Asking the question this way is assuming you have to ask something outside of you for the money.

See what I'm saying?
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Asking the question this way is assuming you have to ask something outside of you for the money.

See what I'm saying?
You will have to ask ming et all for that... I'm not the one is asking... so I don't know who they do ask...

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You will have to ask ming et all for that... I'm not the one is asking... so I don't know who they do ask...

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Well again you're missing what I'm getting at.

The reason you worked your butt off for money is you didn't have expanded awareness.
(Obviously I'm not judging you, I'm just trying to make a point.)

You came from the awareness that the "money" is outside you, hence the need to work for it.

This is what I mean by expanded awareness;

Sit, watch and observe without thinking. You'll notice a stillness where your thinking used to be.
A vast stillness.

This is what you are.
Everything you are perceiving is inside you.
Inside you.........this vast stillness.
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Is a little funny one should believe the one who wants it the most would win(if u believe SR/Loa is absolute truth)but I can testify it isnt, my neighbours won the 1prize lottery while they were on vacation and didnt even think about it
They may have thought about it a lot previously, and it just took a while to manifest.
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I am very interested in how long manifestation takes. Any takers?
It's instant but one has to be ready to receive it. Do you believe that you can win and have you let your intention go?
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The reason you worked your butt off for money is you didn't have expanded awareness.
(Obviously I'm not judging you, I'm just trying to make a point.)

You came from the awareness that the "money" is outside you, hence the need to work for it.
IFT, very good, no one gives you money, you don't win the lottery, you don't work your butt off, people think that's what's happening, but it's all just perception.

You (consciousness) gives the money to yourself. You give yourself money. Money, love, health, it's all the same, everything is already inside, we just have to reveal it to ourselves. We have to allow consciousness to provide it, to allow it to be seen, to be real.

If we consider that our lives already have everything we need already there and we just have to allow it to be so, we can almost get out of the way and let it unfold. All the struggle, denial and doubt is so unecessary. The only person stopping the money, the love, the health, whatever, is the person who thinks it's not right there already for the taking.

There is only ever one person in the way stopping the creation of everything.

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IFT, very good, no one gives you money, you don't win the lottery, you don't work your butt off, people think that's what's happening, but it's all just perception.

You (consciousness) gives the money to yourself. You give yourself money. Money, love, health, it's all the same, everything is already inside, we just have to reveal it to ourselves. We have to allow consciousness to provide it, to allow it to be seen, to be real.

If we consider that our lives already have everything we need already there and we just have to allow it to be so, we can almost get out of the way and let it unfold. All the struggle, denial and doubt is so unecessary. The only person stopping the money, the love, the health, whatever, is the person who thinks it's not right there already for the taking.

There is only ever one person in the way stopping the creation of everything.

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How do you live? Where do you use these ideas and see success? What is your success vs failure rate?
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The thing is that to live this way certainly means putting aside the EGO, the PAST, and also PERCEPTION and replacing that with CHOICE, VISION, Creative Imagining and INTUITION.

I use this process Max speaks of daily. Some days I find myself falling back into Ego perceptions.... but since I know that is what I am doing I can laugh at myself and change my choices & thoughts.

It must be accepted that the Ego is the resistance necessary to contain the creative force within - without such resistance it cannot be contained. This is the shell (ego mind/illusion) which holds the seed (spirit,creative center, consciousness). Without this resistance, all is one - Ego is the basis of separation and denial of our true identity so we can play this game called "Life".

When Ego controls and consciousness is in bondage, then we live according to ego based reality (physical perceptions) which are untrue because.... the ego is built up layer upon layer through past experiences, emotions, and misperceptions. This creates an illusion of "Reality" which is simply a reaction to past events. Each thought, action, and decision is based upon memory & misperception.

When the ego is diminished and consciousness is free to create (but still sufficient ego left to contain/resist) then we cease to think in the past or to allow anything we believe is an effect of an earlier causation to have effect. When consciousness is in control, everything emminates from NOW.

Ego sees "Reality" or NOW as the effect of a previous cause, using physical perception to interpret the past. It then projects reality through its (mis)perceptions, by bringing the past into the present - the past is cause and now is the effect.

Consciousness creates first by perceiving (choosing) what is desired NOW (cause), then that reality is created (effect).
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How do you live? Where do you use these ideas and see success? What is your success vs failure rate?
Consciousness is extremely clever Remember that your entire existance is a game, an illusion, a perception of experience. There are rules, some can be bent, some broken (actually you can break them all, but that's not the point) to maintain the game/illusion/perception, consciousness will allow itself to gain back some of the cheat codes, some of it's creative power, but probably not all of them, remember that's not the point.

If you look at your existance as if everything you require exists right now (there really is no other practical way) then it's a matter of pulling back the curtain more and more to reveal what is already there, but I doubt consciousness would pull the curtain right back, because again that's not the point.

It's a fine balance of maintaining the illusion and gaining more creative power. Consciousness isn't stupid, it knows what it can and won't do and so my success rate is up and down as I maintain the illusion. I can never have 100% success because (again) that's not the point.

It is the ultimate trade off...........awesome cosmic power, itty, bitty reality

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