|12-17-2011, 06:57 PM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BC, Canada
Who do you listen to?
Hi all, I just wanted to take a quick moment to pop by the forums again and offer some value that might help in your Intention Manifestation journey.
As some of you know, a few months ago I was lent a copy of "Your Wish is Your Command" by a friend of mine. It's a 14-CD audio course put out by Kevin Trudeau and the Global Information Network.
I found this training to be invaluable, and pretty much the best LoA course I have ever seen in my 10 year study of Law of Attraction. Since taking and applying the teachings of the course, I've manifested a lot of cool stuff in my life in the last few months.
I have also become a Level 1 Member of GIN because I love their training so much and the mission of the organization as a whole.
Anyway, one of the first things I wanted to share with you guys that I learned from YWIYC and GIN is the importance of being VERY selective of "Who do you listen to?"
It may sound like a very simple thing, but I have found it to be a HUGE factor in making LoA work for you.
There are many, many, many levels to the "Who do you listen to?" concept, but I'll start with the basics.
The biggest "flaw" with learning how the Universe / LoA works is not that there isn't enough information / books / courses / forum posts / opinions out there which teach how it works.
The biggest flaw is that there is TOO MUCH information out there. Information on the Law of Attraction can really be broken down into three categories:
(1) Purposely False - This is information that is purposely disseminated publicly which contains parts of the truth, intermingled with a whole bunch of false information intended to keep people running in circles. Information that is also "missing" key pieces of the formula also falls into this category. Those missing pieces were omitted on purpose.
(2) Innocently False - This is information that is spread around all over the internet and in books by people who THEORIZE on how the LoA might work, should work, or how it makes logical sense that it should work. However, these are people who have not actually produced any real, duplicateable, major results with the Law of Attraction.
For example, in monetary terms, maybe they manifested $100, or $500, or even a few hundred thousand dollars, or even perhaps a million dollars over a few years.
However, when they try to teach their methods to other people, 95%-99% of their students fail to produce any results. Also, they themselves often have trouble duplicating results.
Very often these types of teachings reflect the current beliefs of the masses on what they believe to be the truth about how "LoA" works. By reflecting the beliefs of the masses it's easy to get a large number of people to say "Yes, that must be the truth, because that's what I already believe!" even if those beliefs produce NO RESULTS in people's lives. It's all just theory that sounds good but because it doesn't challenge our beliefs, we accept it as truth because it's so easy to agree with that which we already believe.
(3) True Time Tested - This is information that has been thoroughly tested by many, many people and has been used to produce MASSIVE results utilizing the Law of Attraction. It produces reproducible results for anyone who utilizes the teachings. As long as you do what the teachings say, you will produce results. If you don't do what the teaching says, you don't produce a result.
Often times these teachings are simple, seemingly illogical, and very often go against the very beliefs you currently hold onto which are preventing you from experiencing results. Often time when first heard, we will challenge these teachings because they go against our beliefs - the very same beliefs which are keeping us stuck.
Ok, so where do we go from here. Well, we need to realize that WHO WE LISTEN TO is very important.
For example, I have about 500-800 books here on my book shelves. A lot of them touch on the subject of "attraction", "manifestation" etc. in one way or another. So technically I have about 500-800 "opinions" here.
That is the equivalent of having 500-800 different recipes for a very specific cake, with all the recipes calling for different ingredients and in different amounts. Having that many recipes makes it impossible to actually bake a cake. You can't follow all of them at once. You have to pick one to see if it produces the cake you want.
However, what you soon realize is that 95% of the 500-800 recipes are not even complete...they simply make general statements like "Don't use general purpose flour whenever baking a cake, otherwise it won't work." and that's it. They don't say what kind of flour to use, and even if they do, they don't include the rest of the recipe.
In this same way, there are so many theories out there, mostly written by well-intentioned authors that fall into the 2nd category I listed above. For example "The Celestine Prophecy" is a great book.
I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. However, it is a FICTIONAL book about a FICTIONAL character with a FICTIONAL story that DIDN'T HAPPEN. No different than the movie THE MATRIX for example. It's a story, not something that actually happened.
Anyway, the point is that for me books like "The Celestine Prophecy" are no longer a reliable source of information as they fall into category #2. The Matrix as well. Neo doesn't actually exist, and he can't teach me how to manifest because he's not a real person in this reality, he's a fictional character created by the Wachowski brothers. I can still watch and enjoy the movie, but it's not a "RECIPE" for success.
What about all the other books that I have on LoA written by authors who make their money selling books on LoA? Unless my primary goal is to be an author of LoA books who makes all his money selling LoA books, then I have to discard their teachings as well since they haven't manifested money outside of their LoA teaching career.
If my goal, for example is to manifest a net worth of $50,000,000 or more, then I have to pretty much discard all books written by people who didn't manifest at least that. Or at least I have to consider that their information may not be complete.
What about people like Donald Trump, or Warren Buffet? They are very rich. What about books written by them? Well, their books might be good if they actually wrote them. Donald Trump doesn't write his books. They are ghost written by someone else who writes everything through their own filter. That person writing it probably makes $50,000/year or maybe $150,000/year as a writer, but hardly an ultra wealthy person.
Ultimately you have to come to realize that there is VERY LITTLE information out there, that falls under category #3.
Most of it is Category #2, where well intentioned people are just spreading their opinions. There's nothing wrong with that. Bloggers do it all the time, we do it here on the forums, it's all good. But it's not a formula for success.
Also a lot of information out there is Category #1 - especially when we're dealing with mass media / hollywood etc.
So where do we get Category #3 info? Well you have to find people who:
(a) Have a proven track record of producing the results you want to produce.
(b) Have the ability and desire to teach it to other people.
For example if you want to become a master chef, then you have to go and study with someone who is a master chef.
This is the old Master/Apprentice model of teaching.
If you want to be a Black Belt in Aikido, go study with a 5th Degree black belt in Aikido.
Don't study with the guy who read 1,000 books on Aikido but who hasn't ever trained.
Don't try to learn Aikido by watching YouTube videos of it, or watching a hollywood movie on it.
"WHO DO YOU LISTEN TO?" is one of the fundamental success principles.
This is one of the fundamentals taught in "Your Wish is Your COmmand". Kevin Trudeau does a much better job of teaching it than I do. However I just wanted to share it with you guys if you haven't gotten a copy of YWIYC yet.
By the way, if anyone wants to get access to YWIYC for free, I have copies that I can lend out. I know I mentioned this before, but I just wanted to mention it for anyone who hadn't seen that post of mine.
Also, just to be clear, the "Who do you listen to?" rule also applies to me. I don't recommend anyone listen to me for any advice on anything I haven't accomplished myself. Most of what I say falls into Category #2. I have good intentions, but I have not yet manifested a net worth of $50,000,000+ myself. I'm working on it, but not there yet.
Therefore if that is your goal, I recommend not listening to me. I instead recommend listening to other teachers who have already manifested such things, which is exactly what the GLobal Information Network is about - putting people in direct contact with those in the world who are producing real results.
|12-17-2011, 08:42 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: parallel to something adjacent
Hey, thanks for the info I'd never heard of this, so I did some checking...
The reviews on amazon weren't so hot for this course, and also the reviews on this dude were not too nice, check the link...
Consumer complaints about Kevin Trudeau
However I feel it would be quite wrong to dismiss this as a scam just becuase somebody else says so. I mean, you gotta test the water yourself and make your own judgements...
So, thank you to the torrent sites, I've just downloaded this course. Gonna give it a listen and post back when finished.
|12-17-2011, 09:20 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2008
The OP was shilling for (convicted fraudster) Trudeau and this course back in October; here's the relevant thread. Oh, and this one, too. He's also bought into Trudeau's pricey MLM scheme ($150/month + $1500 initiation fee for that Level 1 membership), so he has a financial stake in convincing others that Trudeau is the best LoA teacher out there.
Last edited by MagicalRealist; 12-17-2011 at 09:27 PM. Reason: added GIN links
|12-17-2011, 10:52 PM||#4 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2007
I found him painfully repetitive, and rambling as well.
I know you think he's great Paul, but honestly I don't see what you seen in him.
I also agree, enough with the pimping of Trudeau.
Last edited by ellie; 12-17-2011 at 10:54 PM.
|12-18-2011, 12:05 AM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2011
Starting to think there is something fishy going on, some commision for recommending this persons work? sorry if I`m sounding cynical, but it does come across as the hard sell !!!
personally I think there are many pieces of information on LOA and lots of different styles for a reason, we are all different, we all learn different ways through different techniques hence why we need to plough thru it all to see who `clicks` with us . I have enjoyed reading many books on LoA picked bits I like from all of them.
Glad his work is working for you tho, truly I am
|12-18-2011, 01:03 PM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Paul sounds like hard-core salesman who works for an MLM scheme. And it's a real turn-off.
Stay away from that like a pest.
Too obvious to not see it for what it is. I mean, who on earth needs 800 books+ (!) and still not understand that you go from one 'workshop' to the next like a drug addict (to get your next kick and 'rush' of "positive energy" only to fall back on your lame little results of 'manifestation' and use this forum as a sales 'platform'?! Urrrghhh!). The bloke doesn't seem to get that one needs to work on oneself, not read tons o' books!
Losers don't attend and become members of MLM. I wonder how much he had to put on the table to become a "Level 1" 'member'.
What a waste time and money!
|12-18-2011, 06:05 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BC, Canada
Kevin Trudeau did not invent the teaching "Who do you listen to?". It was taught to him by his mentors who were ultra wealthy and successful. They learned it from their mentors before them.
In over 10 years of studying Law of Attraction, I finally found something that works amazingly well not just for me but for virtually ever person I share the teaching with, and you don't want me to tell you about it here?
Like I said in my original post. This information is different. It does NOT always support the existing beliefs that most of us have about LoA and such here on this forum. It's not just a re-hashed teaching which MIRRORS the beliefs that we already have so it's not easy to accept at first.
This is why people hate Kevin Trudeau, because he's got the kahoonas to say "Take vitamins" instead of "Take pharmaceuticals" in the sickest country in the world. He's got the kahoonas to say "Don't worship Think and Grow Rich, because there were parts intentionally taken out of the book to keep you poor. It's missing pieces." etc.
Trust me, I thought the thing was a scam when I first heard of it too about a year ago. But a good friend who I trust told me that he listened to YWIYC and he applied it and got results. And when a friend recommends something like that I at least give it a try.
I tried it. It produced results. It continues to produce results. It produces results for my friends who have also listened and applied it.
Why wouldn't you guys want me to share such a thing here? I don't get it.
|12-18-2011, 06:13 PM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BC, Canada
You're not dismissing a teaching just because a review on Amazon or some information on a website states something. A very smart person (not related to Kevin Trudeau or GIN or any of this) told me something very useful the other day.
He said "The credibility of the information is only as good as the credibility of the source."
To me an Amazon review has very little credibility. But I guess for most sheeple it's enough to keep the away from the truth.
Some people complain that Kevin speaks very slowly. That is done on purpose, as you'll learn later on. But if it's going to stop you from listening, I recommend downloading a free iPhone app which allows you to speed up the listening speed to like 1.2x or 1.5x or whatever works for you.
Windows Media player also does this, although I highly recommend putting the files on a portable player or phone or in some way making it available for listening to in the car. That is usually the only way that people get through the course, by listening to it in their car while driving. It's too distracting to try to listen to an audio program while on the computer with Facebook, Email, messengers, Twittter etc. popping up.
|12-18-2011, 06:37 PM||#9 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: N.E. Wisconsin
|12-18-2011, 07:04 PM||#10 (permalink)|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BC, Canada
MLM's have a very low cost of entry - often less than $500 to "get into business" so that often also attracts people who are not very serious about actually building a business.
Also, due to improper training, most people try to "sell" MLM's to their friends and relatives as an "easy way to make money", like a lottery, and that is where most of the negativity comes from.
MLM's are just as easy/difficult to build a business with as any other business out there. The big difference is that they don't require a large startup cost like most businesses and they don't require you to have to do EVERYTHING like when starting a new business from scratch. Meaning, you just do the marketing and they take care of the rest (accounting, product development, shipping, service etc.)
However, I'm not trying to sell you anything. In fact I want to lend you my copy for free if you promise to listen to it. That is about as opposite as you can get from "trying to sell you something".
If you listen to the information and it doesn't resonate with you, it cost you nothing. If you listen to the information and it changes your life - I CAN'T stop you from becoming a GIN Member.
The guy who shared YWIYC with me didn't have to SELL me on GIN membership. I wanted it. In fact if he tried to stop me from becoming a GIN member I'd punch him in the face because the information is that valuable to me. I don't care if anyone becomes a member of GIN on here. I'm just sharing the free info, and people can decide from there.
|12-18-2011, 07:17 PM||#11 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2008
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|12-18-2011, 09:37 PM||#12 (permalink)|
Join Date: Mar 2008
So far, I've managed to manifest information as I've needed it, as I was ready for it--and I've never had to pay a dime for it. Not just free information online, but books, audiobooks, and firsthand knowledge from people with the right kind of expertise. These forums, where people who play with reality discuss what has worked for them (or ask for insight into why something they tried didn't work) have been part of that.
I'm happy to pay for materials that have resonated with me and been helpful in my development. To me, that's a way of offering thanks to the people who put that information into a useful form, as well as an easy means of transmitting that knowledge to others (I give away a lot of books, passing the knowledge I originally got for free on to others).
Whatever you want to know? Whatever guidance you need? Whatever information will help you on the current leg of your journey? It's all out there, and it's all free for the manifesting. Ask, and it will be given. There are no "hidden secrets" to manifesting that can only be had by paying thousands of dollars to the one guy who claims to hold the key to forbidden knowledge. Really, there aren't.
Abundance is our birthright. Joy is our birthright. And, by extension, so is the knowledge of how to claim these things. And anyone who tells you that they are the only one who can give you that knowledge--as long as you're willing to pay the price they set on it--is a liar.
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