Personal Development for Smart People Forums

Personal Development for Smart PeopleTM Forums

 

Go Back   Personal Development for Smart People Forums > Personal Development > Intention-Manifestation

Notices

Intention-Manifestation Manifesting intentions, law of attraction, vibrational harmony, synchronicities, luck, share your intentions, practice group manifesting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-13-2011, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
radscorpion8 is on a distinguished road
Default Manifesting something that could solve all our problems

Hello,

As some of you may have noticed (actually probably none of you :P), nearly every post of mine in recent weeks (months?) has been about talking to God. But when I look at other people's ideas, its either about manifesting:

A better job
A relationship
That parking space you always wanted
Money
Peace and wellbeing

I just wanted to make a request to somebody, who really has this manifestation stuff down, and feels like he/she could create whatever they desire if they focused enough.

While I myself haven't managed to talk to God...I believe that someone out there could on my behalf, and on the behalf of countless others.

If that person learned to talk to God, these are the potential benefits that would derive from that conversation. Through God's wisdom and understanding, someone could learn how to:

Use the law of attraction perfectly
Use intuition perfectly
(As a result of the first two) Be perfectly capable of manifesting money, a great job, a relationship
Act as a channel to give people a perfect understanding of their problems
Learn schematics and designs that could revolutionize several industries (energy, agriculture, computer)
Cure cancer (among many other things)

So to me that sounds better than most common goals, and would be a great investment of time.

Of course I understand why people strive for the common goals; its because they don't have faith that they can create something truly big. And yet all of the important LOA material (notably Abraham Hicks and Conversations with God) say that people are entirely capable of doing these things and more...i.e. "ye are Gods", or "you can be, do or have anything you want".

So I was just hoping. Is there someone out there...someone who perhaps teaches LOA a lot on these forums, who has a deep understanding of how it works and has created things on the past, who could learn how to talk to God?

-OR-

If you can talk to your spirit guide or higher self, you can talk to God through that spirit guide!

Anyways hopefully someone is able...if not I'll keep trying to repeat "I can communicate with God" maybe 100 times a day at least

Last edited by radscorpion8; 12-13-2011 at 11:56 PM.
radscorpion8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 159
Prinie is on a distinguished road
Default

God has spoken to me before. Like, Him Him. But God comes to you in HIS time, not yours. No one can make Him. there's just some things we aren't quite ready for, even if we think we are or feel we are. Just continue to do your best to be your best and when the time is right He'll show up and help you.

That's really all the info I can give you.

P.S: Most people won't even want to hear what I'm saying and then this might spark the conversation of God, who or what he she it is, what it means, etc. Not now.

I'm out. lol
Prinie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 11:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
radscorpion8 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prinie View Post
God has spoken to me before. Like, Him Him. But God comes to you in HIS time, not yours. No one can make Him. there's just some things we aren't quite ready for, even if we think we are or feel we are. Just continue to do your best to be your best and when the time is right He'll show up and help you.

That's really all the info I can give you.

P.S: Most people won't even want to hear what I'm saying and then this might spark the conversation of God, who or what he she it is, what it means, etc. Not now.

I'm out. lol
OK thanks for the advice. But I don't understand...if he really said "ask and it is given", and I ask for a conversation, why isn't it given?

I guess I find it kind of confusing. Also I read conversations with god :P. The advice it gives I have problems following (the manifesting stuff asks you to have the certainty that Jesus did...which is extremely difficult to achieve, and I can't force myself to) and I need clarity on quite a few points besides that.

I remember one passage that said if you repeat a thought, or a word, often enough it becomes manifested in your reality. That was echoed by Abraham Hicks. I really really liked that passage...

But every time I set myself up to repeat something 1000 times for an hour straight it fails. Maybe I could try it for intervals, but then it just feels weak. Like how long do I repeat it...and then I have doubts as to whether it'll work or not based on some other thoughts I may not be consciously aware of. So I thought maybe someone else can do it!

Well I'll keep hoping/trying. Thanks everyone for the input!
radscorpion8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 12:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 159
Prinie is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by radscorpion8 View Post
OK thanks for the advice. But I don't understand...if he really said "ask and it is given", and I ask for a conversation, why isn't it given?

I guess I find it kind of confusing. Also I read conversations with god :P. The advice it gives I have problems following (the manifesting stuff asks you to have the certainty that Jesus did...which is extremely difficult to achieve, and I can't force myself to) and I need clarity on quite a few points besides that.

I remember one passage that said if you repeat a thought, or a word, often enough it becomes manifested in your reality. That was echoed by Abraham Hicks. I really really liked that passage...

But every time I set myself up to repeat something 1000 times for an hour straight it fails. Maybe I could try it for intervals, but then it just feels weak. Like how long do I repeat it...and then I have doubts as to whether it'll work or not based on some other thoughts I may not be consciously aware of. So I thought maybe someone else can do it!

Well I'll keep hoping/trying. Thanks everyone for the input!
AngelPsychic and The One were both spot on when they said you just have to listen. He communicates in a bunch of ways and sometimes I didn't even realize what was going on until I looked back and said, "Wow! Thank You for not letting xyz happen like I wanted!" (I'm talking about surrender)

Now in terms of "ask and it shall be given". Keep asking and strive to be your best possible self. He might be talking to you now, just not the way you expect. Talk all the time, when you can and above all move from the best part of yourself. When he spoke to me I had hit rock bottom and was ANGRY that I had done everything, sought and asked and knocked and the door seemingly wasn't opened. But that doesn't necessarily have to be the case with you. God moves in mysterious ways. But pay attention to your everyday life. The most seemingly mundane often have the most extraordinary of answers.

All the best rad.
Prinie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 12:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 12
The One is on a distinguished road
Default

God doesnt only speak in words, he speaks in everything that happens around you. Whether it be a feeling, a thought, a certain lyric in the next song you hear.

When you change your assumption of what God is then you will hear him

Read the book in the post above yours as it explains all of this in greater detail
The One is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 12:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 159
Prinie is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The One View Post
God doesnt only speak in words, he speaks in everything that happens around you. Whether it be a feeling, a thought, a certain lyric in the next song you hear.

When you change your assumption of what God is then you will hear him

Read the book in the post above yours as it explains all of this in greater detail
Yeah, rad's familiar with that. I think he just wants to hear the direct, "I am He" voice, you know? I feel...because I often feel the same way.

Thanks rad. Talking to you is actually helping me get insight and perspective too. <3
Prinie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 08:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,273
AngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by radscorpion8 View Post
Hello,

As some of you may have noticed (actually probably none of you :P), nearly every post of mine in recent weeks (months?) has been about talking to God. But when I look at other people's ideas, its either about manifesting:

A better job
A relationship
That parking space you always wanted
Money
Peace and wellbeing

I just wanted to make a request to somebody, who really has this manifestation stuff down, and feels like he/she could create whatever they desire if they focused enough.

While I myself haven't managed to talk to God...I believe that someone out there could on my behalf, and on the behalf of countless others.

If that person learned to talk to God, these are the potential benefits that would derive from that conversation. Through God's wisdom and understanding, someone could learn how to:

Use the law of attraction perfectly
Use intuition perfectly
(As a result of the first two) Be perfectly capable of manifesting money, a great job, a relationship, and yes, even that perfect parking space
Act as a channel to give people a perfect understanding of their problems
Learn schematics and designs that could revolutionize several industries (energy, agriculture, computer)

Now doesn't that sound better than the common goals that people strive for with the LOA?

Of course I understand why people strive for the "common goals". Its because they don't have faith that they can create something truly big. And yet all of the important LOA material (notably Abraham Hicks and Conversations with God) say that people are entirely capable of doing these things and more...i.e. "ye are Gods", or "you can be, do or have anything you want".

So I was just hoping. Is there someone out there...someone who perhaps teaches LOA a lot on these forums, who has a deep understanding of how it works and has created things on the past, who could learn how to talk to God?

Also...obviously I'm talking about a conversation with God. Not the "god talks to you every day" nonsense about how if you turn on a radio a song that's playing is meant for you, or the billboard you see that says "looking into medical school??" is supposed to be a miraculous sign that you should go into medical school. That stuff is ambiguous and impossible to prove, and is especially frustrating for people who don't know if the LOA or God work as these various channeled sources say they do (again the channeled sources could just be products of someone's delusional mind..there is no scientific evidence, just personal experience).

So that last rant aside, I hope someone can do this!!!

-OR-

If you can talk to your spirit guide or higher self, you can USE that higher self/spirit guide to talk on BEHALF OF GOD!!! Wouldn't that be great?

I thought so.

Good day everyone!
You really should check out the books called "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch, these books will answer all of your questions, especially the ones about manifesting. In Neale's first book he actually asks God about some of the things you wish to know, and Neale really got some great answers.

I've read all the Coversation with God (CWG) books and loved each one. I even used the same method as Neale did to "talk" to God, and it worked for me.... anybody can do this, God is very available to anyone, at anytime... you just have to be willing to listen.
AngelPsychic444 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 08:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 159
Prinie is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelPsychic444 View Post
You really should check out the books called "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch, these books will answer all of your questions, especially the ones about manifesting. In Neale's first book he actually asks God about some of the things you wish to know, and Neale really got some great answers.

I've read all the Coversation with God (CWG) books and loved each one. I even used the same method as Neale did to "talk" to God, and it worked for me.... anybody can do this, God is very available to anyone, at anytime... you just have to be willing to listen.
Omg yes! Someone told me that book is amazing.
Prinie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 08:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
Family Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,273
AngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to beholdAngelPsychic444 is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prinie View Post
Omg yes! Someone told me that book is amazing.
Yeah that first book is really good, I've read it at least 3 times, and can't wait to go back and read it again. One other important thing about these books is AS you read them, you're actually having a direct experience of God, so these are not just books, it's more of an experiential thing, but no matter how you look at it, the first book, if you really want it to, can change your world for the better.
AngelPsychic444 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 08:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 159
Prinie is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelPsychic444 View Post
Yeah that first book is really good, I've read it at least 3 times, and can't wait to go back and read it again. One other important thing about these books is AS you read them, you're actually having a direct experience of God, so these are not just books, it's more of an experiential thing, but no matter how you look at it, the first book, if you really want it to, can change your world for the better.
That's good. I enjoy transformational books like that. For some reason I have a very vague memory of reading it. I just looked it up and it seems very familiar.
Prinie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2011, 10:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 12
The One is on a distinguished road
Default

http://www.humanitysteam.ru/lib/Conv...20book%201.pdf

Heres a link to book 1

Its an amazing read, i highly recommend it

Last edited by The One; 12-13-2011 at 11:27 PM.
The One is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 01:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 72
JasonC will become famous soon enough
Default

radscorpion8,

What if you ARE communicating with God, but perhaps just not aware of what God is saying?


Communication isn't just verbal. If people can communicate nonverbally, can't God communicate nonverbally as well?

The fact that you are trying to hear an audible voice is a limitation.

Additionally, it seems you are trying too hard.

Manifestations are based on our consciousness. Every negative thing that is happening in your life is a manifestation which started somewhere in your subconscious thinking. The key is to mentally shift your subconscious thinking into the positive. It must be tamed to do your bidding, instead of running on negative autopilot.

Affirmations work to do this, but the affirmation must be believable to you, and it mustn't feel like a chore (if you're counting how many times you did the affirmation, that's an indication you're making it worse for yourself).

It must be fun, natural, believable and resonate with you.


To make it believable, you could say, "I choose to clearly listen God"

Maybe you could use this, "I choose to be harmoniously aligned with God and"

BTW - could it be that God is speaking to you right now, through these words?

I encourage you to be open to the possibility!
JasonC is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 64
guthrio is on a distinguished road
Default Manifesting something that could solve all our problems

Quote:
Originally Posted by radscorpion8 View Post
So I was just hoping. Is there someone out there...someone who perhaps teaches LOA a lot on these forums, who has a deep understanding of how it works and has created things on the past, who could learn how to talk to God?
Radscorpion8,

I very much identify with your need to search beyond what you may have been taught or identifed with LoA.

Over the years, I've come to realize that much I've been taught about religion does not help me live the life I want. I realized that in order to see changes in my life I had to consider BEING THE CHANGE I WANT TO SEE CREATED. This is exactly what Jesus revealed with His life and teaching. BE THE CHANGE. You are seeking the very "Truth that shall set you free."....and that is NOT limited to a self-approved credo of beliefs expoused in some religious tradition's scripture, filled with sanctioned interpretations about it. It may surprise you to know that it is the Spirit of God ALREADY in us Who reveals the Truth of Himself to us, not church attendance, or church rules, or church traditions. "Seek and ye shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened unto you." Then I came across a set of books by Baird T. Spalding which changed how I see EVERYTHING. It's one of the references I'm quoting. It has changed my life. I invite you to take a look at them. I strongly believe they will have a similar effect on yours. (especially when you get to page 21 of Vol 1)! Why?

PLEASE CONSIDER VERY CAREFULLY WHAT YOUR PLEA MEANS: "So I was just hoping. Is there someone out there...someone who perhaps teaches LOA a lot on these forums, who has a deep understanding of how it works and has created things on the past, who could learn how to talk to God?"

I hope you are able to see, but more importantly, FEEL, that there is, MUCH MORE TO LIFE, as told to Horatio by Hamlet in Shakespeare's play of the same name: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

What things ??

As author Baird Spalding says in the reference, ”Becoming aware of yourself as a spiritual being, offspring of an infinite spiritual system and one with all the powers and capacities within that system, is the very essence of attainment. To grow from the present state of awareness of himself as a material being and into the consciousness that he is a spiritual being contains the full secret of man's attainment.' Man's nature cannot be reversed for he always remains a spiritual being. He can only reverse his notion of himself. Instead of doing this, he should reverse his mistaken idea that he is a material being and retain the truth that he is a spiritual being created in the image and likeness of God."

That paragraph ALONE should hint that YOU ARE, as an IMMORTAL, OMNIPRESENT SPIRITUAL BEING, CERTAINLY MORE than you have been taught, and INFINITELY MORE than you may have THOUGHT !

Our Creator did NOT create human beings as scientists, or philosophers, or Romans, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Catholics, Protestants; Hindu, “untouchable” dalits, orthodox, secular; light skinned, dark skinned; believers, infidels, saved, unsaved or any other designations or philosophies that we associate with these OR ANY OTHER names. We are NOT the names we call ourselves or others, though we act AS IF we ARE...instead of remembering Who we, and each other, actually are. Such designations, erroneously believed and acted upon as if relevant, serve to hide the truth that our Creator created each one of us OF HIS VERY SPIRIT AND AS HIS IMAGE.

However, if your search has taken you this far, you probably realize that amassing EVEN immense wealth is really only...."SMALL POTATOES" compared to the true breadth of our God-given potential...

As a matter of fact.....achieving those goals are just as NATURAL an ACCOMPANIMENT to one's correct use of the universal Law of Attraction....as is the phrase "You shall reap what you sow".....for good OR ill.

Why ?? Because if...

"Becoming aware of yourself as a spiritual being, offspring of an infinite spiritual system and one with all the powers and capacities within that system"....and discovering that...

....."Your mind is the mirror in which the infinite power and intelligence of the universe sees itself reproduced.", (see the last sentence in Chapter 13 of the second source, "Your Invisible Power").

.....Need I even mention the ramifications of the word "INFINITE" in the context of MIRRORING such power and intelligence WITHIN one's OWN mind, let alone what it means to become aware that you are ALREADY one with all the powers and capacities within such a system ???

.....and that IS, and has ALWAYS been, EVERYONE'S birthright....from the beginning ??

Why, then, would anyone want to limit themselves to merely amassing (i.e. getting) wealth or asking someone else to manifest for us, what we have ALL been given the power and capability to bring into existence through us ??

What you seek is, and has always been available within you.

"With all thy getting.....get understanding"

Know Thyself.

The Creator Himself IS the very pattern by which mankind was made. Jesus' message and reason for coming to this earthly dimension was to show us, in as stark, as uncompromising, and as definitive a manner as possible, that we are as He is, which is as our Creator endowed us all to be, and that is as immortal, Spiritual beings who are the Spirit and Image of our Creator. We are NOT physical beings. We are Spiritual Beings like He is! Our Father created Jesus just as He created us...the exact Spirit and Likeness of Himself. We are PERFECTLY CREATED SPIRITUAL BEINGS, who have forgotten Who we are. If we really thought about it, if the accomplishment of miracles was not ALSO based on perfect, unchangeable principles, Jesus would not have been able to truthfully say to us, "Greater things than these shall you also do." Not so just one person can do it (Him), but so that anybody could do it, following relevant principles. We must RE-awaken to the knowledge that OUR OWN PERFECTION within this infinite Spiritual system is ALREADY the established order of things....and act accordingly.

The fact is, that Man, created as the very Spirit and Image of the Creator, Himself.....IS the MIRACLE....

As thus created, it becomes apparent that our true heritage is not only within our grasp.....but that our reach, in truth.........IS INFINITE !!

Though WE may have forgotten Who we, and each other are, we are yet Sons and Daughters of the Most High. Again, we are Who the Creator is in Spirit....not subservient adherents to whatever religion or philosophy we profess to include ourselves.

As such, we could only, and always, be: "Beloved of our Creator"..........never coerced or forsaken by our Creator.

The most sacred homage to the Truth of that Love that you can offer is to honor the I AM within yourself by loving the I AM Who is equally omnipresent within ALL your Brothers and Sisters throughout the Earth....

THAT IS WORSHIP......which requires no ritual or ceremony OR religion whatsovever; just a loving heart willing to do so and is worthy of a Creator who lovingly created us ALL out of His Own Perfect Divine pattern; Who includes us ALL within Himself; and Who loves each one of us as Himself...

That's how we were ALL created..... by the One Who loves us so much that He has given us His Own power....

.....to love Him and EACH OTHER back.....by ourselves.....for ourselves....by OUR choice.

It is not religion's "job" or a church's "duty" to do OR be this for us....these are only tools whose best purpose can only be to lift us BEYOND their teachings, not to bind us TO their teachings.

So we can know the REAL TEACHER inside us all....

.....Who shows us, THROUGH our lives, how to be His perfect, loving message WITH our lives.....

Again, it is the Spirit of God already IN us Who reveals the Truth of Himself to us.

....as Jesus, Himself discovered, and LIVES, even this very day, while you are reading this, and Who would have ALL OF US know and understand the Truth OF ourselves, FOR ourselves.....

"Seek and ye shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened unto you."

You are the door....

Hope this, and the sources below, help you find the light you seek...ESPECIALLY the first reference by Baird Spalding, as well as Chapter IV, entitled “Subjective and Objective Mind” in the third reference, “The Edinburgh Lectures on Mental Science”, and "The Dore Lectures on Mental Science" by Thomas Troward

Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East (Vols 1-6) by Baird Spalding

http://www.lightisreal.com/YourInvisiblePower.pdf

http://freeselfhelpvideos.com/ebooks/eloms.pdf

http://www.smartwomeninvest.com/dore.pdf

Last edited by guthrio; 12-14-2011 at 02:26 AM.
guthrio is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 72
JasonC will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by guthrio View Post
Radscorpion8,

I very much identify with your need to search beyond what you may have been taught or identifed with LoA.

Over the years, I've come to realize that much I've been taught about religion does not help me live the life I want. I realized that in order to see changes in my life I had to consider BEING THE CHANGE I WANT TO SEE CREATED. This is exactly what Jesus revealed with His life and teaching. BE THE CHANGE. You are seeking the very "Truth that shall set you free."....and that is NOT limited to a self-approved credo of beliefs expoused in some religious tradition's scripture, filled with sanctioned interpretations about it.
guthrio, while you do have an interesting point, what you're saying sounds like you are imposing your spiritual views upon radscorpion8

I particularly like Baird T. Spalding, and am fascinating by the books, but I also think it's important to not come off as imposing your own spiritual views upon another, even if the teachings of the far east may be right.

Just a thought.
JasonC is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 10:00 AM   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 48
localrobert is on a distinguished road
Default

Agreed.











...
localrobert is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 01:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 64
guthrio is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC View Post
guthrio, while you do have an interesting point, what you're saying sounds like you are imposing your spiritual views upon radscorpion8

I particularly like Baird T. Spalding, and am fascinating by the books, but I also think it's important to not come off as imposing your own spiritual views upon another, even if the teachings of the far east may be right.

Just a thought.
JasonC,

Thanks for your own thoughts and interesting post.....which I hope you agree falls into the same category of "being an opinion" as my post does, with no more power to "impose" upon anyone who chooses to use it as any other post in this, or any other, thread.

Last edited by guthrio; 12-14-2011 at 01:30 PM.
guthrio is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 02:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 23
radscorpion8 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for the advice everyone.

I'll check out those books that were linked! They may have some useful information to me, or an alternative way of realizing I can talk to God.

I like the idea of changing my perception of myself from being just a human looking to talk to God towards being an infinite being who has all the answers he needs, its an approach I did not consider. In the end its really a matter of preference, about which would make things work better.

And I think you might be right Jason, because in "conversations with god" it says you can repeat a thought hundreds, thousands of times and that it will become your reality. Then Neale asks "but what if I don't believe that thought?", and God responds "Then find a thought you can believe", which calls into question the idea that repeating *any* thought enough can make it manifest.

Just about the only thing I can find that is universally supported is the idea of feeling positive and attracting positive situations including a conversation with God.

So yeah that's what I'm trying right now, actually. I just have to not doubt it for the week that I practise it. Whatever the result is I don't know, maybe I'll see who I "really am" or God will start talking to me, but it should be good.

Also Prinie has a good understanding of what I'm looking for :P. Its definitely possible God is talking through these posts to me, or through the radio or various other means...the problem is I have no way of confirming that. So I could end up making a mistake and following something that in the end is just a random radio message, which will lead to problems down the road because my life is just blindly following messages that I feel might be God's.

I actually tried living like that for a little while, and it was probably the most frustrating period of my life, and I hated myself for being so irrational and insane. Anyways glad thats over!! (No offense lol - if you have a way of making it work for you more power to you, its just I happen to be particularly skeptical and doubtful back then)
radscorpion8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 05:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 159
Prinie is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by radscorpion8 View Post
Thanks for the advice everyone.

I'll check out those books that were linked! They may have some useful information to me, or an alternative way of realizing I can talk to God.

I like the idea of changing my perception of myself from being just a human looking to talk to God towards being an infinite being who has all the answers he needs, its an approach I did not consider. In the end its really a matter of preference, about which would make things work better.

And I think you might be right Jason, because in "conversations with god" it says you can repeat a thought hundreds, thousands of times and that it will become your reality. Then Neale asks "but what if I don't believe that thought?", and God responds "Then find a thought you can believe", which calls into question the idea that repeating *any* thought enough can make it manifest.

Just about the only thing I can find that is universally supported is the idea of feeling positive and attracting positive situations including a conversation with God.

So yeah that's what I'm trying right now, actually. I just have to not doubt it for the week that I practise it. Whatever the result is I don't know, maybe I'll see who I "really am" or God will start talking to me, but it should be good.

Also Prinie has a good understanding of what I'm looking for :P. Its definitely possible God is talking through these posts to me, or through the radio or various other means...the problem is I have no way of confirming that. So I could end up making a mistake and following something that in the end is just a random radio message, which will lead to problems down the road because my life is just blindly following messages that I feel might be God's.

I actually tried living like that for a little while, and it was probably the most frustrating period of my life, and I hated myself for being so irrational and insane. Anyways glad thats over!! (No offense lol - if you have a way of making it work for you more power to you, its just I happen to be particularly skeptical and doubtful back then)
I wish all the best. I'm learning just like you, rad. Faith and Hope, faith and hope...
Prinie is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2011, 09:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 342
MagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppableMagicalRealist is absolutely unstoppable
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by radscorpion8 View Post
Also Prinie has a good understanding of what I'm looking for :P. Its definitely possible God is talking through these posts to me, or through the radio or various other means...the problem is I have no way of confirming that.

So I could end up making a mistake and following something that in the end is just a random radio message, which will lead to problems down the road because my life is just blindly following messages that I feel might be God's.

I actually tried living like that for a little while, and it was probably the most frustrating period of my life, and I hated myself for being so irrational and insane. Anyways glad thats over!! (No offense lol - if you have a way of making it work for you more power to you, its just I happen to be particularly skeptical and doubtful back then)
Learning to trust that you are, in fact, receiving guidance takes time and patience. After all, it goes counter to everything you've been taught about how God and the universe work. It's a completely different mode of thinking about and perceiving the world, and yes, it can feel exactly like you're going insane, or falling into the worst sort of irrational "magical thinking."

So don't push it too hard. Recognize and accept what messages you can, as you can. Play with it. You'll figure it out eventually.

Part of it is learning to use your emotions as a guidance system, which goes against everything you've been taught (especially if you're male). And by that I don't mean wallowing in your feelings, but rather learning to see them as information. For example, if you've been offered a job that, on the surface, looks good, but when you think about it you feel depressed, tired, uninspired, trapped, or some other negative feeling, that's a sign that you shouldn't take it. If you get an idea for a business or creative project, and you feel excited and energized by it, that's a sign that you should put it into action.

Keep moving toward and embracing the things that bring up positive feelings for you, and avoid getting entangled in things that bring up feelings of fear, anger, shame, or other negative emotions. You might receive guidance through other means, but what Abe-Hicks calls the "emotional guidance system" is the most basic means of tapping in to divine guidance. If you can learn to use it effectively, that alone will be an enormous help to you.
MagicalRealist is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2011, 04:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 72
JasonC will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by guthrio View Post
JasonC,

Thanks for your own thoughts and interesting post.....which I hope you agree falls into the same category of "being an opinion" as my post does, with no more power to "impose" upon anyone who chooses to use it as any other post in this, or any other, thread.
I do agree! Excellent point

Quote:
Originally Posted by radscorpion8
And I think you might be right Jason, because in "conversations with god" it says you can repeat a thought hundreds, thousands of times and that it will become your reality. Then Neale asks "but what if I don't believe that thought?", and God responds "Then find a thought you can believe", which calls into question the idea that repeating *any* thought enough can make it manifest.
What if the thought still works in spite of disbelief? Here's what one famous person said about it:

Quote:
"It’s sorta like a mantra. You repeat it to yourself every day. 'Music is my life, music is my life. The fame is inside of me, I'm going to make a number one record with number one hits.' And it's not yet, it's a lie. You're saying a lie over and over and over again, and then, one day the lie is true." - Lady Gaga
I believe repetition works
JasonC is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How Do You Solve Difficult Problems? Lifeisamazing Personal Effectiveness 8 10-17-2011 11:41 PM
Did anybody try manifesting rehabilitation of his/her dog/cat's behaviour problems? Jack Intention-Manifestation 0 03-16-2011 08:49 PM
What Are Your BIGGEST PROBLEMS When Manifesting Tristan Bull Intention-Manifestation 26 11-22-2009 02:02 PM
Using hate to solve problems jdiddy Intention-Manifestation 3 08-25-2007 04:15 PM
Manifesting solutions to problems Lallymac Intention-Manifestation 0 06-10-2007 09:21 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright © 2010 by Pavlina LLC