I don't seem to understand how LoA works

[MiguelG]

How exactly does LoA work? I've gone through the processes of visualization and creative thought (These are rough translations from the names in my language) and I can't seem to understand how to use them efficiently.

The thing that's sticking most to my mind is the fact that for one to become in tune with the universe to receive, one must act like they have already received it.

How does this exactly work in the real world? For example I manifest a new computer, but I can't really act like I have one, since I can do certain things with that computer that I can't with my current one.

Manisfesting relationships seems to be weird aswell. How can I act like I've already gone out on a date with someone? Acting like that towards someone would make them repel you, don't you think?

[Salem86]

For me, acting "as if", visualization and letting go, are just tools to help you expect the outcome you prefer. For example - if you visualize having that new computer, the idea of receiving one doesn't seem that strange. Acting as if you already have one does that too. But in my opinion, the real goal is to expect something like that to happen.

Edit:
Also, when you expect to get something, you feel like you already have it. That kind of feeling that you have when you order something and then you wait until the delivery guy comes and hands it over to you.

[localrobert]

Here's an idea. I may be totally off base but here goes. Perhaps you may already have the rescources somewhere to purchase it and not know it.

[Rimuel]

From my perspective, we use LoA all the time without knowing about it. For example:

- "I'm hungry. I'm going to eat some fast food." *goes to KFC*
- "I want to work on this math question" *goes ahead and solve the problem*

In such instances when the use of LoA is successful, it has an feeling of "ordinari-ness" to it, as if it will definitely happen. Everyone probably doesn't remember how they learn how to walk, eat and talk, but at the time of learning, these abilities are anything but "ordinary".

Hypothetically, we can obtain successful results by replicating that feeling and classically conditioning it with the actions/thoughts we would use to achieve the results. So for example if I can completely replicate the feeling I get when I am intending to solve a mathematical problem and attach it with the intention "I want to get a girlfriend", it would be quite possible to achieve that result.

Of course, I would still need to follow through with actions, but the point is that all actions begin with intentions. It works like this:

Intention -> Action -> Results

Something that we believe is impossible becomes impossible, and vice versa. I think that the only things we cannot change with LoA are the objective characteristics of the world. But most of the things we as humans want to change are not of that nature.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by MiguelG

for one to become in tune with the universe to receive, one must act like they have already received it.

This is one method. An important method, but it is only one method, and you don't necessarily have to use it.

[Salem86]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

This is one method. An important method, but it is only one method, and you don't necessarily have to use it.

ALG, I would like to ask you what do you think of what I wrote in my comment (previously in this thread, about expecting- consciously or subconsciously).

[localrobert]

Acting is I think not necessarily a prerequisite to achieving your dreams whatever they may be. Some say the un-manifest is a field of potential where the only limitations you can put on are the ones of your own imagination. But limitations may prove to be an advantage in the long run.

[Acting Like Godot]

These different approaches are all about messing around the timeline.

Expecting - You intend that it will come.
"Act As If" - You intend that it has just come.
Gratitude - You think that it has already come.

[Now123]

Alot of theory is great but has anyone had experience of succesfully manifesting through these approaches? like something unlikely?

I like the idea of manifestation feeling like an ordinary/natural process. NicBrahm said something long ago about having faith that it will come. which is really resonating with me recently.

[MiguelG]

So, what Rimuel mentioned was that I should feel like when I am searching for something and achieve it. It has nothing to do with the behaviour, but with the feeling I should feel.

And to Acting, wouldn't Gratitude be the most effective of those three methods you mentioned? Or are all of those three part of the whole process?

[Salem86]

When it comes to using methods, I guess you should pick the one that feels best for you. It also depends on what you want to manifest. If it is money, feel as a rich person, think about what you already have, be grateful for it. When it comes to manifesting relationship, acting as if you already had one would maybe be counterproductive as you pointed out, so you may choose expecting, making preparations like the relationship is on its way(like working out to look more attractive perhaps?).

[Now123]

I hear alot of talk but no walk from people. Has anyone gotten rich from the gratitude thread? not even that, has anyone manifested something unusual worth hearing?

Not trying to pass off as a skeptic, I believe that LOA is real. I just think 90% of the information in this forum may be given from people who can't even manifest a turkey sandwich.

Thats why its always wise to ask for experience and results and evaluate from there.

[Salem86]

ALG is known as a very skilled and successful manifestor. And I have manifested quite a lot of things that I mentioned in other threads, just find some of my older posts.

[guthrio]

Originally Posted by MiguelG

How exactly does LoA work? I've gone through the processes of visualization and creative thought (These are rough translations from the names in my language) and I can't seem to understand how to use them efficiently.

The thing that's sticking most to my mind is the fact that for one to become in tune with the universe to receive, one must act like they have already received it.

How does this exactly work in the real world? For example I manifest a new computer, but I can't really act like I have one, since I can do certain things with that computer that I can't with my current one.

Manisfesting relationships seems to be weird aswell. How can I act like I've already gone out on a date with someone? Acting like that towards someone would make them repel you, don't you think?

MiguelG,

If you've ever had the experience of wanting to buy a new car or had a desire to remember something you forgot, then you know what the law of attraction is. How ?

Have you noticed that as soon as you've told yourself that you like a certain car and wonder what it would be like to have one, that EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK from then on, you keep seeing that type of car ?

Have you ever noticed that when trying to remember something you forgot, that it is more effective to tell yourself to "Relax, it will come back to you" than trying to FORCE yourself to remember?

The mechanism of "attraction" at work in both cases, but most especially in the answer to your question, is simply this: ACCEPTING, not wishing for, WHAT YOU WANT….

It is all about clarity of YOUR intent….stated IN THE PRESENT….and ACCEPTED IN THE PRESENT.

As stated in the 1st reference, "When one realizes that the whole problem of manifest results is more a matter of opening up the consciousness to see or include something which already exists in Fact, instead of trying to bring something that is not out into manifest form, then the matter will be much simpler."

The mechanism of "attraction" is simply this: ACCEPTING, not wishing for, WHAT YOU WANT….NOW. The only time you CAN state your intent (desire) IS now. And the only time you can receive your desire (or solution, or arrive at your destination, etc.) IS now, as well. So between the time you ASK and the time you RECEIVE is.......only NOW !

THERE IS NO OTHER TIME, BUT NOW ! There IS NO past. There is no FUTURE ! What we call past or future is just a different part of NOW, that is not divided at ANY point or time, whatsoever. ALL IS NOW ! because ALL IS ONE, which includes you asking AND you receiving....and all times in between.....NOW.

It’s very much like how a Tom-Tom or Garmin GPS system works in your automobile. You recognize that the GPS acts like a single system, right ? That’s because to IT, ALL the “points of reference” (i.e. places you CAN go) exist within the system…..NOW, no matter where YOU are in relation to ANY of them.

With some GPS models configured with 6 million or more “points of reference”, all YOU have to do is TELL THE GPS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, so that the GPS can tell you HOW TO GET THERE !

Just as the GPS, in conjunction with orbiting satellites, all act as a single unit to convey your intention in this metaphor I described, SO DOES YOUR OWN MIND, but...with a crucial difference between the GPS metaphor and Reality. And that is......that YOUR MIND works in conjunction with an "operating system", which in Reality is.....the ENTIRETY OF CREATION, seen and unseen....operating AS ONE.....AT ONCE.....to do so.

We've been erroneously taught that FIRST we must ask, THEN we can receive. Why is that wrong ? Think about it.

The solutions we seek PRECEDE our need.....exactly like the availability of air precedes our need to breathe it. If the answer (solution) were not ALREADY true, and truly within YOU.....you would not be ABLE to recognize (RE - cognize) the Truth of it AS the answer (solution) !!

"Perfection does not come from projecting our own ideas but from awakening to the knowledge that it is already the established order of things.".....as indicated in the 1st reference. Don't believe me?

2+2=4,....even BEFORE you compute it !! .....NOW, right ?

In the same way, ALL Principles of Life are True, Perfect, and Immutable....BEFORE you are even ABLE to know them or utilize them.....

When you understand that all the principles of Life are ALWAYS consistent with Truth, without variation, deviation, or attenuation for anybody, at any time, or any place, then you'll begin to see that the real test in Life, is to live KNOWING the difference....between TRUTH and belief, and that the consequences of your actions WILL occur just as certainly as 2+2=4, truthfully, invariably, perfectly......and unavoidably.

You accept what you want now because you are ALREADY CONNECTED to whatever the solution is, or wherever it is......NOW.

Doubt is really "accepting" an ALTERNATIVE outcome, WHILE HOPING that it doesn't happen.

Using the GPS metaphor, again, doubt is like telling yourself where you want to go.....BUT INPUTTING A DESTINATION INTO THE GPS OTHER THAN THE ONE YOU SAY YOU REALLY WANT. Where do YOU think the "system" will take you......perfectly ? To the ALTERNATE destination YOU inputted, right ? Not to the solution you really wanted, BUT didn't INPUT. Do you see ?

No different than how your OWN mind operates, in conjunction with the entirety of Creation WORKING AS ONE....PERFECTLY !....to take YOU to the "alternate" destination (solution) you TOLD YOURSELF about with doubt.... instead of the outcome you wanted !

THAT'S WHY you clearly state what you WANT TO HAPPEN (clarity), not what you HOPE DOESN'T HAPPEN (doubt).

THAT IS THE secret (law of attraction) ! .....ACCEPTING THAT WHAT YOU DESIRE IS ALREADY TRULY YOURS !!

.....EXACTLY LIKE 2+2=4 EVEN BEFORE YOU COMPUTE IT !

or...exactly like the availability of air (prayer answered) precedes our need to breathe it (prayer request).....or we would not even be able to breath (pray) at all !!

Does the law of attraction really work?

YES !!!...... PERFECTLY ! as based on YOUR CLEARLY STATED and FIRMLY ACCEPTED INTENT (input) .

You do NOT need to wish for the perfect solution, because it ALREADY IS TRUE ! Do NOT wish.....KNOW !

The law of attraction is really only 4 steps (again, think of the GPS):

1. CLEARLY ACCEPTING that what you want (i.e. where you want to go) already exists (RIGHT NOW !) BEFORE you experience it (i.e. “arrive”)

2. CLEARLY STATING TO YOURSELF what you want (where you want to be).

3.CLEARLY INPUTTING what you want into the very mechanism whose SOLE purpose is to RECEIVE and ACT UPON YOUR CLEAR INPUT.....your OWN MIND.

4.“LETTING” (not begging or forcing !) the system “TELL YOU HOW TO GET THERE” or “bring IT to YOU”.

NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROCESS involves ANY wishing or pleading or hoping, whatsoever.

IT IS ALL ABOUT KNOWING and ACCEPTING...BEFOREHAND, not about wishing or doubting !

And as indicated in the 2nd reference, "In the last analysis there is but one treatment given for anything that is desired. That treatment consists in convincing the mind that the thing desired is already accomplished...." It goes on to say, "Treatment is not for the purpose of making things happen; it is to provide, within ourselves, an avenue through which they may happen. Treatment opens up the avenues of thought, expands the consciousness, and lets Reality through; it clarifies the mentality, removes the obstructions of thought and lets in the Light. We already live in a Perfect Universe, but It needs to be mentally seen before It can become a part of our experience."

Creation PERFECTLY KNOWS where you are, IN RELATION to the destination, or the solution, or the job....which EXISTS RIGHT THIS MOMENT, whether you are focused on it or not. (Consider all those cars you "suddenly" keep seeing, or how you "out of the blue" remember something you forgot)

CREATION is One....and YOU are inseparably one with EVERYTHING in It. There are NO gaps or separations between you and ANYTHING in Creaton. All (including you) is ONE ! That's how YOU are someone else's solution, desire, or destination....ALREADY....do you see?

This includes all the "points of action" required to manifest you AS the solution, desire, or destination.

Not "to" you....."as" you.

Because….the destination, or the solution, or the desire is NOT attracted TO you.

The destination, or the solution, or the desire IS YOU...EXPERIENCING IT !!

YOU ARE the VERY experience OF the destination, or the solution, or the desire…..NOW !!

ALL YOU NEED TO DO is accept that it's yours....NOW.....and "let" ALL OF CREATION create the experience OF you becoming your desire.

Finally, as your desire is being transformed into your "experience of it", continually nurture your desire with expectant, loving thoughts of the good you will receive by LIVING YOUR THANKS...before and after you receive it....(see the excellent narrative in the 3rd source, especially the last line in Chapter 13!)

Hope this helps !!

Source(s):
Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East
Volumes 1 - 6 by Baird T. Spalding

Questions and Answers on the Science of Mind
by Ernest Holmes & Alberta Smith

http://www.lightisreal.com/YourInvisiblePower.pdf

[dreamland]

Thank you so much guthrio, I liked your post a lot!

[guthrio]

Originally Posted by dreamland

Thank you so much guthrio, I liked your post a lot!

Dreamland,

My pleasure !

[Rimuel]

@MiguelG:

It is the "feeling" or "state of mind" you have when you broadcast your intention that causes things to be manifested. As for experience with manifesting I vaguely remembering manifesting "small things" just from having that state of mind when I broadcast my intention. Sometime this month, my dad bought some delicious food. I was thinking about how I'd like to have it again (i.e. unconsciously intending). Then on Monday he bought it. He doesn't usually buy food for me on Monday, and I didn't tell him it was delicious. So it is possible that it happened because of LoA.

With small things you usually only need the intention. Almost no action is needed.

For me, the "Expecting" method that Acting highlighted works best. The "Gratitude" method doesn't work for me unless the thing I desire really has been manifested. The critical part of me will reject that it has already come unless it sees evidence.

[blissmaster]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

These different approaches are all about messing around the timeline.

Expecting - You intend that it will come.
"Act As If" - You intend that it has just come.
Gratitude - You think that it has already come.

Sir ALG but is it really necessary to do all the above mentioned steps? Being cool,calm,collected and relaxed, wont all these feelings fulfill the intention?Or is it neccessary to do the above mentioned?Sir ALG what protocol do you follow when using Loa/magick?It would be immensely helpful to every one if you can give a basic idea of your protocol.

[jessicasilverman]

In my opinion I believe that everything is energy and that somehow your own personal energy is creating your reality, and as you create new energys within you via visualization, affirmations etc, then you start to manifest a similar essence reality and attract correlating people, circumstances and events to happen to you in your life. It's obviously way more complex and mysterious than this, but thats just my 2 cents.

[Frisky]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

This is one method. An important method, but it is only one method, and you don't necessarily have to use it

I dont use that method either. I simply say to myself:

I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR
I MUST HAVE A NEW CAR

Over and over again

[jota]

hahaha...serious Frisky?? how you handle with reisistance??

[Frisky]

Originally Posted by jota

hahaha...serious Frisky?? how you handle with reisistance??

I dont know what you mean by "resistance", can you explain??

[jota]

Its when you have the strong feeling that what you talking its not true...its the beter that i can say with my english...this is one reason why peoples dont have sucess with affirmations ...

[Frisky]

Originally Posted by jota

Its when you have the strong feeling that what you talking its not true...its the beter that i can say with my english...this is one reason why peoples dont have sucess with affirmations ...

I have been told by others that I have a very strong faith in God. I also believe that LOA is a type of gift from God. So you add the 2 together and for me its easy to believe whatever I want to manifest will always happen.

My sister is the opposite, I can see her wavering every time we discuss LOA

[larkok]

Frisky, I'm not sure if saying "MUST HAVE" is a good idea for a mantra. It reinforces need. It reminds you that you MUST HAVE a car, not that you already have a car.

I MUST HAVE a new relationship. I MUST HAVE more money.

Maybe a different approach? I don't know. Saying I already have.. would be a contradiction. How about, I WILL ?

[Frisky]

Originally Posted by larkok

Frisky, I'm not sure if saying "MUST HAVE" is a good idea for a mantra. It reinforces need. It reminds you that you MUST HAVE a car, not that you already have a car.

I MUST HAVE a new relationship. I MUST HAVE more money.

Maybe a different approach? I don't know. Saying I already have.. would be a contradiction. How about, I WILL ?

Whatever works for you Larkok, go with it. For me "I MUST HAVE" seems to work well. I'll try the "I WILL HAVE MORE MONEY" and see if perhaps it works better in manifesting money then my usual way