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reekah 12-10-2011 10:38 PM

Does LOA have a catch?
 
I have, and am practicing, LOA. But is there a catch? Be honest.

Self-help teachers cite that anything can be attained via this process. But isn't this too good to be true? Whether this is God, the Universe as a sapient entity or laws of physics that science hasn't uncovered yet (which is my own interpretation of how the law works), why is it so?

It just seems so easy, that by simply thinking/believing something intently, it can appear in one's life.

Anagogy 12-10-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by reekah (Post 1039162)
I have, and am practicing, LOA. But is there a catch? Be honest.

Self-help teachers cite that anything can be attained via this process. But isn't this too good to be true? Whether this is God, the Universe as a sapient entity or laws of physics that science hasn't uncovered yet (which is my own interpretation of how the law works), why is it so?

It just seems so easy, that by simply thinking/believing something intently, it can appear in one's life.

It sounds very easy, and it would be, if human beings weren't so accustomed by the mass consciousness of culture in general to be so negative and resistant :o. It's true that consciousness creates form, but pure creation is done through pure and non-contradicted focus, which can be easier said than done. Virtually no one has absolute control of their attention or thought. Thus, no one has absolute control of their reality.

So the catch is, from my perspective, that you can have anything you want, so long as you are devoted to working out the kinks in the purity of your focus or vibrational offering. And this can be a long process in some cases. But it can also be a fun and enlightening journey.

Also, I've personally found that the more balanced or in tune with the universe you become, the more easy it becomes to manifest deliberately, but, at the same time, your desire to exercise such power appears to become increasingly less. I've always found that interesting. The more powerful conscious creator you become, the less desire you have to change things (not to imply in anyway whatsoever that there is anything wrong with wanting to change things).

At least, this has been my personal experience. The more in tune you become, the more one realizes that everything is already perfect and already exactly what one wants. :)

Acting Like Godot 12-10-2011 11:18 PM

It's true. I often wonder what the heck I should next manifest for..

Of course that is also attributable to a lack of imagination. :p

reekah 12-10-2011 11:47 PM

It just seems strange that one can just believe something and it appears. It seems too good to be true, as stated before.

It could be rationalised by God wanting his subjects to be happy, and I guess if God exists and is benevolent as the Abrahamic faiths say He is, then it follows logically. But to me, there is no supreme intelligence, the Universe is no more a conscious entity than a rock.

Acting Like Godot 12-10-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by reekah (Post 1039221)
It just seems strange that one can just believe something and it appears. It seems too good to be true, as stated before.

It only seems too good to be true, until you see what a thick, twisted jungle of negative beliefs you have.

Ahhh, new adventures in the mind. :p

waizen 12-11-2011 12:00 AM

I also agree. Sometimes I wonder if learning to manifest things in this reality is nothing more than a simple training exercise for much greater things, spiritually. After getting our fill of being able to get whatever we want, our attentions then turn to spiritually higher things. Just a theory on my part, though. When things get too easy, the goals get loftier, maybe?

inri 12-11-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anagogy (Post 1039178)

Also, I've personally found that the more balanced or in tune with the universe you become, the more easy it becomes to manifest deliberately, but, at the same time, your desire to exercise such power appears to become increasingly less. I've always found that interesting. The more powerful conscious creator you become, the less desire you have to change things (not to imply in anyway whatsoever that there is anything wrong with wanting to change things).

You always have a way of wording things that gives me those lovely tingles of resonance.;) You've described this so well.

This has also been my experience...to the degree that at present even things that might have seemed absolutely intolerable in the past are actually being seen to be not just acceptable, but perfect...inherent gift upon gift absolutely pouring forth from a situation that would be viewed as less than desirable by most.

I know others in my midst who have accepted the fact that I generally am able to manifest anything I desire, are looking on going..."Okay..make that go away," but for the life of me, I can't muster up any desire to do so...even the desire to muster up desire is absent. Interesting for sure.:)

inri 12-11-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by waizen (Post 1039233)
I also agree. Sometimes I wonder if learning to manifest things in this reality is nothing more than a simple training exercise for much greater things, spiritually. After getting our fill of being able to get whatever we want, our attentions then turn to spiritually higher things. Just a theory on my part, though. When things get too easy, the goals get loftier, maybe?

Mmmmm....yes, I think you're on to something here.;) well said.

inri 12-11-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot (Post 1039229)
It only seems too good to be true, until you see what a thick, twisted jungle of negative beliefs you have.

Ahhh, new adventures in the mind. :p

haha...perfect.:)

waizen 12-11-2011 12:28 AM

As for your original question, in my opinion there really is no catch. I believe we are all connected as part of the eternal intelligence (for lack of a better name for it). As we grow so does the universe. Perpetual spiritual growth by and for everything.

iDreamCatcher 12-11-2011 12:30 AM

LOA has the biggest catch 22 implied.
You want something because you think you'll feel great when you have it (and it is true).
But to manifest it - you'll have to feel as great as if you already have it. In other words to manifest more money you need to feel rich *before* more money will come in. And that's the hardest part for many.

Gleb

Anagogy 12-11-2011 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by reekah (Post 1039221)
It just seems strange that one can just believe something and it appears. It seems too good to be true, as stated before.

It could be rationalised by God wanting his subjects to be happy, and I guess if God exists and is benevolent as the Abrahamic faiths say He is, then it follows logically. But to me, there is no supreme intelligence, the Universe is no more a conscious entity than a rock.

From my perspective, every single aspect of energy or matter is conscious. Not necessarily conscious in the way that you and I are conscious (that is to say ego driven), but conscious of energy interaction on some level or another.

Every piece of the universe is having experiences, is evolving. The law of attraction is a natural result of this encompassing metaphysical feature. The distance between one consciousness and any other consciousness is simply a matter of how similar or different these two patterns are. When you become aligned with some "thing" or another, whatever it is, your consciousness begins to vibrate similarly enough to it that it eventually results in an interaction occurring.

Physical distance is an illusory manifestation. Vibrational distance is the real deal. ;)

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Originally Posted by inri (Post 1039246)

You always have a way of wording things that gives me those lovely tingles of resonance.;) You've described this so well.

Thanks Inri. You are too kind. :) Your words often inspire me in precisely the same way.

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Originally Posted by iDreamCatcher (Post 1039272)
LOA has the biggest catch 22 implied.
You want something because you think you'll feel great when you have it (and it is true).
But to manifest it - you'll have to feel as great as if you already have it. In other words to manifest more money you need to feel rich *before* more money will come in. And that's the hardest part for many.

That is a good point.

cassiopeia 12-11-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iDreamCatcher (Post 1039272)
LOA has the biggest catch 22 implied.
You want something because you think you'll feel great when you have it (and it is true).
But to manifest it - you'll have to feel as great as if you already have it. In other words to manifest more money you need to feel rich *before* more money will come in. And that's the hardest part for many.

Gleb

Yes, this is it! It's a big catch... I've been practising intention manifestation (or trying to) for the past five or so years, and only now am I beginning to see the rewards. I did have many negative beliefs and a lot of resistance though, some people pick it up way more easily.

moonrambler 12-11-2011 11:11 PM

Dude manifested a ban.

guthrio 12-19-2011 09:52 PM

Does LOA have a catch?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reekah (Post 1039162)
I have, and am practicing, LOA. But is there a catch? Be honest.

Self-help teachers cite that anything can be attained via this process. But isn't this too good to be true? Whether this is God, the Universe as a sapient entity or laws of physics that science hasn't uncovered yet (which is my own interpretation of how the law works), why is it so?

It just seems so easy, that by simply thinking/believing something intently, it can appear in one's life.

Reekah,

Is there a catch ?

Yes ! The catch is thinking that there is a catch in a perfect process which has reflected our intentions back to us as our very lives so effortlessly, that we think something must be wrong with us ! :)

All the principles of Life are ALWAYS consistent with Truth, without variation, deviation, or attenuation for anybody, at any time, or any place, The real test in Life, is to live KNOWING the difference....between TRUTH and belief, because the consequences of our actions ALWAYS occur just as certainly as 2+2=4, truthfully, invariably, perfectly......and unavoidably.

"Lack attracts lack" just as effortlessly as "Like attracts like", whether we realize we're doing it or not.

"Perfection does not come from projecting our own ideas but from awakening to the knowledge that it is already the established order of things.", .....as indicated in the reference.

....don't believe me? Try MAKING 2+2=5. Doesn't work, does it? We cannot even MAKE 2+2=4. 2+2=4, whether you sum the equation correctly or NOT ! WHY ??

Because neither Truth NOR Perfection can change OR be changed. ALL the principles of Life operate that way, perfectly, without variation, deviation, or attenuation for anyone, at anytime, anywhere !! We can ONLY accept its perfect operation, because we cannot change Truth.

If Perfection is ALREADY the established order of things, AND is PLAINLY EVIDENT IN ALL THE PRINCIPLES OF LIFE, WHY HAVEN'T WE KNOWN THIS ??

BECAUSE WE ALL are free to choose to believe that 2+2=5 for ETERNITY until we have acquired FOR OURSELVES the necessary knowledge of the immutable principle that correctly sums the answer.

Furthermore, WE can validate that the correct application of such principles enables us to accomplish anything consistent with those principles. Yes, WE can deny this.....but WE still cannot change the Truth or Perfection of it....any more than WE can CAUSE 2+2 to equal anything but 4.

Please understand that I am only using this mathematical example as a metaphor for THAT which is not only real, but is also true, and which ALSO cannot change.

There is no need to control ANYTHING but your own choices. As a matter of fact, making your own choices is the ONLY THING you CAN control.

LIFE IS A MIRROR !

You CAN'T change the reflection in the mirror (consequence)......

....YOU CAN ONLY CHANGE WHAT’S CAUSING the reflection IN the mirror.....YOU, YOURSELF....by your choices !

We have control over the choices.....perfectly.

Life controls the consequences....perfectly.

What you say to yourself SUBJECTIVELY….is what gets expressed (i.e. reflected AS YOUR LIFE!) OBJECTIVELY !!

Life doesn't TELL you that your choice is amiss.

Life SHOWS YOU that your choice is amiss....with the consequences.

Life doesn't TELL you that you hit the target.

Life SHOWS YOU that you hit the target...with the consequences.

It is the real meaning behind "Ye shall reap what you sow"....for good or ill, as YOU choose....perfectly !

Furthermore, the same Source Who created perfect principles of mathematics which operate undeviatingly to create ONLY 4 as the answer to 2+2, ALSO CREATED US out of perfect principles. No attempt on our part to ignore, change, disbelieve, or rationalize affects its perfection in ANY way whatsoever !!

The idea I'm about to show you ALONE can completely change your world, and everything you've believed....THAT'S HOW POWERFUL IDEAS ARE ! Ready? Here it is:

"If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
- Dr Wayne Dyer

And it works......perfectly.

Hope this, and the sources below, help....

Source(s):
Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East
Volumes 1 - 6 by Baird T. Spalding

Ideas Are Always Free

masteredfate 12-19-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot (Post 1039229)
It only seems too good to be true, until you see what a thick, twisted jungle of negative beliefs you have.

Ahhh, new adventures in the mind. :p

Everytime I read your post, I can see you smiling. Of course I have never met you or seen you before, but it's quite inspiring.


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