Who Would Work?

[Balbrae]

Is there really a tension between "work" and "non-work"? Posts ask questions along the lines: "how can we amass abundance without working?" as if "work" is an undesirable thing. "Work" as a factor in one's abundance seems to constitute a failure of proof that one successfully engineered a manifestation of abundance, under the "easy" school of the LoA.

But that can't be right. Think about it. The world couldn't function without "work." The world wouldn't be able to function without workers until it could populate the Earth with 8 billion robots to do our bidding. In the meantime, for now, if we all manifested our millions and went our merry way, then who would work?

Does the world needs workers? Yep. So it comes down to this: manifesting abundance with "ease" under the LoA and working are not mutually exclusive. The trick is to see "work" as fun. Seth (Jane Roberts) once remarked words to the effect: "Work is Play."

[reekah]

It depends. People can be lazy and don't like to expend energy. It may just be a function of personality, some like something for nothing (they actually want the free lunch).

[Balbrae]

Originally Posted by reekah

It depends. People can be lazy and don't like to expend energy. It may just be a function of personality, some like something for nothing (they actually want the free lunch).

Hi, Reekah:

The concept of laziness is a topic unto itself. Pure laziness does not exist because such persons would work at not working, or they would work to avoid work. Hence, they wind up working when fleeing work.

There is only relative laziness, based on a cost-benefit analysis. Someone says, I will put this much effort into something to achieve X, but not put that much effort into it to achieve Y.

But from a utilitarian perspective, if EVERYone were masters at the LoA, and they manifested a world of non-workers, the world would grind to a halt. That is why, on the whole, LoA cannot simply be about "not working."

[Prinie]

What are you asking again?

I love writing and that is work. But it's work I enjoy and so it's a pleasure to do. Money, status, etc have its place. It can open doors for you that perhaps weren't available to you prior but it's no good if you amass these things, do nothing with them and still lack joy. That's my take. It just rots and fades.

Add: It does seem logical that the world needs workers and so on some level it makes sense. But I can't really respond to that. I do know that if you are doing something you enjoy and you push yourself in this area, "LoA" or whatever seems to take natural effect.

[Balbrae]

Originally Posted by Prinie

What are you asking again?

I love writing and that is work. But it's work I enjoy and so it's a pleasure to do. Money, status, etc have its place. It can open doors for you that perhaps weren't available to you prior but it's no good if you amass these things, do nothing with them and still lack joy. That's my take. It just rots and fades.

Add: It does seem logical that the world needs workers and so on some level it makes sense. But I can't really respond to that. I do know that if you are doing something you enjoy and you push yourself in this area, "LoA" or whatever seems to take natural effect.

HI, Prinie:

Here is what I am asking. Do people really believe that the LoA could allow everyone to manifest a life of "retirement," such that no one would expend labor in a market-based way (i.e., "work")? For example, suppose that everyone had the same desire (not realistic, but just work with the hypothetical): to sit by the resort hotel pool all day and drink margaritas. Now hold that thought. Imagine a world of perfect "manifesters" who manifested sitting around glamorous waterfall-pools all day drinking margaritas. Who would work? Who would clean the pool? Who would wash the towels on the lounge chairs? Who would make the margaritas? Who would clean the resort hotel rooms? Who would wait tables in the 5-star restaurant? Robots could, but they are not here yet.

I hear people on this forum ask questions like: "How can I manifest millions without 'working' for it?" When people pursue the LoA, in order to manifest a "retired" life of abundance and ease, it just makes me ask the utilitarian philosopher's question: if everyone manifested that same outcome, then who would work? That is my question. My answer was similar to yours: work is play, and when we enjoy what we do, then we manifest abundance, and the world doesn't come to a grinding halt because the paradigm allows for both: service/"work" + ease, fun, abundance.

As well, I would add that, realistically, not everyone will be a perfect intentional "manifester" of abundance and ease, so this utilitarian scenario doesn't really pose a problem. The functionality of our society almost relies on the reality that not everyone will intentionally manifest abundance and ease, in a retired-life way, under the LoA. Some people can manifest a retired life of ease and "no work," and the world will still be filled with "workers," some who love their jobs by the pool, and others who wonder why they are "stuck" working. So, during this "uneven"-skills phase of our human development (and in the absence of cheap, abundant supplies of robots), there can be plenty of us on this website who manifest no need to "work," in order to received financial abundance.

[Zenn]

I think many people hate work because they are forced to do what they don't like to make a living. They feel trapped and are wasting their lives. Since they do this for money, naturally they wish for money without "work". Lying by the pool or sunbathing may be a dream for some but the thought of it bores me and is even scary if I had to do that, sort of the same way people feel about work. Most people look forward to retirement to escape working life. I haven't followed the usual life pattern, weaving in various levels and intensities of work and what are considered retirement activities in my life and I don't plan a retirement. Rather, I've had semi reitements and I always have interests to pursue. I can't stop learning.

People alive need to be active, physically and mentally, with rhythm. There are many productive activities people enjoy and will rather do than being idle.

The thing is to separate the need of money from prefered activities, or life's "work" or calling, or mission. By "LOA", we can be provided for and be free to pursue our life purposes. Of course, many have found financial rewards with what they love to do. For them, work is happiness, an important part of their lives.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by Balbrae

Who would work? Who would clean the pool? Who would wash the towels on the lounge chairs? Who would make the margaritas? Who would clean the resort hotel rooms? Who would wait tables in the 5-star restaurant? Robots could, but they are not here yet

If we manifest 6 billion boring retirees, I think we could figure out a way to manifest affordable and effective androids.

[Bradshaw]

You can manifest a life of no work and abundance. I'm pretty much there. No real physical hard work required.

I still do stuff though. I just do it for free most of the time, since I don't need the money. My GF has a personal development center so I sometimes do stuff there to individuals.

Let me ask you something, though: Do you really think it's that easy for a person who is quite lazy to just manifest the life they want?

Think about it for a moment.

I think people seem to forget that the LoA is mostly about focus and intention. People who are truly lazy can't sustain their focus and intention on something for very long.

[CoolBee]

All depends how you define work!
In the past few days I spent 36 hours preparing a 20 minute presentation to show to some Yr 13 pre-uni students (age 18) about my research and being a researcher.
I didn't get paid a penny but it sure was work! And I loved doing it.

[Prinie]

Oh I see. I guess that's a good question. From what I gather, most people don't really want to use LoA to make money. It seems like alot of people who want to make alot of money just for the sake of it are just exhausted and believe these things will somehow remove their exhaust and make them feel better. I get where you're going. We're probably saying the same thing differently...

Originally Posted by Balbrae

HI, Prinie:

Here is what I am asking. Do people really believe that the LoA could allow everyone to manifest a life of "retirement," such that no one would expend labor in a market-based way (i.e., "work")? For example, suppose that everyone had the same desire (not realistic, but just work with the hypothetical): to sit by the resort hotel pool all day and drink margaritas. Now hold that thought. Imagine a world of perfect "manifesters" who manifested sitting around glamorous waterfall-pools all day drinking margaritas. Who would work? Who would clean the pool? Who would wash the towels on the lounge chairs? Who would make the margaritas? Who would clean the resort hotel rooms? Who would wait tables in the 5-star restaurant? Robots could, but they are not here yet.

I hear people on this forum ask questions like: "How can I manifest millions without 'working' for it?" When people pursue the LoA, in order to manifest a "retired" life of abundance and ease, it just makes me ask the utilitarian philosopher's question: if everyone manifested that same outcome, then who would work? That is my question. My answer was similar to yours: work is play, and when we enjoy what we do, then we manifest abundance, and the world doesn't come to a grinding halt because the paradigm allows for both: service/"work" + ease, fun, abundance.

As well, I would add that, realistically, not everyone will be a perfect intentional "manifester" of abundance and ease, so this utilitarian scenario doesn't really pose a problem. The functionality of our society almost relies on the reality that not everyone will intentionally manifest abundance and ease, in a retired-life way, under the LoA. Some people can manifest a retired life of ease and "no work," and the world will still be filled with "workers," some who love their jobs by the pool, and others who wonder why they are "stuck" working. So, during this "uneven"-skills phase of our human development (and in the absence of cheap, abundant supplies of robots), there can be plenty of us on this website who manifest no need to "work," in order to received financial abundance.