How many of you have manifested financially NOT through hard work?

[cantankerous]

A lot of people seem to want to use manifestation/LoA to get wealthy, as in financially wealthy. This question is not about feeling abundant in yourself or feeling abundantly happy, it is merely about that base desire for monetary wealth.

I am just wondering how many people who consider that they have successfully used manifestation/LoA have achieved wealth, that is unexpected wealth or surprise amounts of money coming to them without getting it through the traditional route of work? I know that a lot of people who use LoA will say that hard work is a part of LoA but in this instance I am just asking for examples from people who manifested large sums without having to do any work, so through things like the lottery, betting, finding money in the street, having money unexpectedly come their way - what many laymen would call "luck" rather than LoA.

If so, what book or method do you credit with getting the right mindset for LoA/manifestation to work for you?

PS. Please do not answer if money has not come you way, even if you feel the universe has provided you with "abundance" (I hate that word) in any other way or if you have become a millionaire through hard work alone.

[newkaren]

Large sums of money? No, but I have managed to manifest small sums of money.. I'd guess about $200 total over the course of a few months.

[moonrambler]

I don't think your "please don't answer" is going to work

If LoA works as claimed, people don't have to even have heard of it for it to work.

How about becoming rich by investing relatively small amounts of money? Would you consider that possibly LoA?

[jota]

I dont think thst peoples here believe it , with exception ALG and Nicbrams(but nobody believe in her)...this is something that you will have to make for yourself.

[iDreamCatcher]

People trying to use LOA like bandaid to patch holes in their budget. This is coming from exactly opposite direction.

Here's LOA + financial abundance crash course in one sentence:
Feel emotional result of your wealth in the present moment up to the point when more or less money in your life no longer relevant.

Emotional feelings of result of wealth (security, peace, happy) are driving force.
Irrelevancy of your initial desire is releasing brakes (letting go).
Either one of these is not enough - both must be present.

People doing #1 and wondering where's ma money?
Right way:
Do #1 and make it feel so good for you, that subject of money becomes kinda boring.

Gleb

[Salem86]

I believe I have manifested around 1400 euro this year, if we're talking about "unexpected" cash only.
I also agree with what iDreamCatcher wrote.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by iDreamCatcher

Emotional feelings of result of wealth (security, peace, happy) are driving force.

Irrelevancy of your initial desire is releasing brakes (letting go).
Either one of these is not enough - both must be present.

Don't say nonsense like this. People want money so they can enjoy the exciting freedom that it makes possible. The freedom to simply decide "I want to go to Disney World" and being able to just do it. The freedom to look at something cool and just get it. The freedom to think of a plan and just implement it.

You cannot achieve this exciting freedom "in your head". You can pump yourself up but when your impulses find no outlet in the external world, it is impossible to sustain the feeling of freedom because your experience keeps contradicting it and it magnifies the feeling of impotence.

People doing #1 and wondering where's ma money?
Right way:
Do #1 and make it feel so good for you, that subject of money becomes kinda boring.

The subject of money IS boring. That's why people with it, the happy ones at least, are always working hard to get rid of it. Nobody cares about money. They care about the power money provides to make intentions actually, trully, quickly manifest. You want a new car? If you have money, there is no need to sit in your sofa and imagine it, let go, visualize, feel the car is yours, let go, let go, let go, realize you still don't have the car, feel guilty you didn't let go, let go again.. you can go to the dealership and sit in the actual cars, pick one you like from first hand experience and then just drive off with it.

[lycan]

Back when I didn't think in LoA terms, at all, I was able to attract close to a million dollars to me with nearly zero effort. I wasn't "doing something I love", I was literaly doing almost nothing as far as earning the money was concerned. I did have to position myself properly (which involved a leap of faith) and it didn't happen instantly (it took a few years). I also managed to repel it and now I'm broke and in debt. My emotions were the classic manic-depressive mix of euphoric optimism and hopeless pessimism so maybe I should take that as clear evidence that LoA works at least in the field of money. Or I could take a clear look at what I actually did to see exactly why I attracted and then lost the money and from that perspective, I'm not sure if the "positive" emotions did me more good than bad.

I want to belive in the LoA but it always seems like an after the fact rationalization. Sure, sometimes there are coincidences that seem kind of weird, like TV shows suddenly dealing with topics I'm thinking about. But I don't know, I'm still testing it. I don't really have any other alternative as far as I see it.

[Zenn]

Originally Posted by lycan

I want to belive in the LoA but it always seems like an after the fact rationalization. Sure, sometimes there are coincidences that seem kind of weird, like TV shows suddenly dealing with topics I'm thinking about. But I don't know, I'm still testing it. I don't really have any other alternative as far as I see it.

That is exactly the validation and verification of LOA. So much of what we attract into our lives is manifested unconscious intentions and emotions that we forget. The seeds are forgetton but, without resistence since they are forgetten/released, they grow into fruition. When people talk about LOA or its invalidity/failure they often mean their learned and applied "techniques" which often fail them because the real LOA is at work to bring to them what really feel and focus on, in spite of what they consciously force themselve to pretend to feel and focus on.

An after the fact realization reminds you of your original seeding/desire of the resulting manifestation. I use such realization to boost my faith and confidence in practicing conscious intending.

[positive power]

Zenn,

Thankyou for elucidating this point. Yes, I am beginning to see this, that our unconscious desires with no resistence are at the forefront in energy terms and intention terms and they will manifest. So, how do we keep in tune with our unconscious mind and keep it on track or, work with it??? In other words how do we keep manifesting good stuff continually?

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by positive power

In other words how do we keep manifesting good stuff continually?

First, try to see beyond the labels and contexts that determine "good" and "bad" and "positive" and "negative" and so forth. Aside from seeing "good" (or at least "acceptable") in all things, which is a helpful attitude for a lot of obvious reasons, when you remove the context, you remove much or all of the resistance, as well.

Secondly, intend to change your subconscious beliefs. This is difficult to do from an ego perspective, because it would be like a drawing of a person picking up a pencil and erasing part of themself, and redrawing it. Change, including profound change, does happen all the time. Intention is very powerful if it's sincere, because it creates a window of allowing, so to speak.

Not sure how clear that is. I seem to be having trouble putting it into words today.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by Zenn

That is exactly the validation and verification of LOA. So much of what we attract into our lives is manifested unconscious intentions and emotions that we forget. The seeds are forgetton but, without resistence since they are forgetten/released, they grow into fruition. When people talk about LOA or its invalidity/failure they often mean their learned and applied "techniques" which often fail them because the real LOA is at work to bring to them what really feel and focus on, in spite of what they consciously force themselve to pretend to feel and focus on.

An after the fact realization reminds you of your original seeding/desire of the resulting manifestation. I use such realization to boost my faith and confidence in practicing conscious intending.

Rationalization, not realization. By this I mean, something happens and you then look back at your thoughts and emotions and find something that matches it and ignore the things that contradict it. You have a million random thoughts during the day and then you start to notice how some events match a couple of those thoughts. If you can't find a match between your internal state and the external experience you rationalize that the problem lies on a subconscious level.

The real test of LoA is in people who are single-minded, obsessed with something specific, especially if it is outside their direct reach. Not with people who have so many thoughts and intentions that they forget about that some are bound to happen out of pure coincidence, especially when they are broad and general. The real test of ANY idea is in its power to predict the future, not its power to explain the past.

[Zenn]

Originally Posted by lycan

Rationalization, not realization. By this I mean, something happens and you then look back at your thoughts and emotions and find something that matches it and ignore the things that contradict it. You have a million random thoughts during the day and then you start to notice how some events match a couple of those thoughts. If you can't find a match between your internal state and the external experience you rationalize that the problem lies on a subconscious level.

You are rationalizing away, aka denying, realization. Realization comes to people. When people realize something, they do at the moment it comes to them. It is not a result of sorting out the random thoughts to find the answer. They realize the manifestation of earlier disires without resistence, but not those they doubted and have international debates over. When people rationalize, they know it too. Rationalization is deliberate while realization is spontaneous, even when it's a result of a process.

The real test of LoA is in people who are single-minded, obsessed with something specific, especially if it is outside their direct reach. Not with people who have so many thoughts and intentions that they forget about that some are bound to happen out of pure coincidence, especially when they are broad and general. The real test of ANY idea is in its power to predict the future, not its power to explain the past.

How can prediction about the future be tested? When it comes to pass, it's no more the future. It's then explained by the past, i.e when an idea is seeded. Your rationalization here will never test intentional manifestation, which is about faith - you believe the future is now, so you already have what you desire. It's hard to test for a skeptic because the intention of testing itself will keep the skeptic attached, unless the skeptic actually forgets about it. Then it becomes realization after the fact which you dismiss. Only the true believer of LOA can test it because they can actually believe and let go.

[Angela]

I needed a big chunk of money this year to have surgery done because I don't have insurance. A bunch of people chipped in and just gave me money, and a couple of people gave me interest free loans, and I had my surgery a week ago.

A bunch of those people are here on the forums -- thank you so much, you incredibly generous souls, for helping me stay alive and vital! I am so grateful that it moves me to tears every time I think about it, including right now.

There was no hard work involved. In fact, it was only when I let go of struggle that the last big chunk came in all at once, out of what felt like thin air.

What's your trouble with the word "abundance"? I love that word. It's like "voluptuous." Rich, and chocolatey and round and full. I love it. I welcome it.

[loapatti]

Originally Posted by cantankerous

A lot of people seem to want to use manifestation/LoA to get wealthy, as in financially wealthy. This question is not about feeling abundant in yourself or feeling abundantly happy, it is merely about that base desire for monetary wealth.

I am just wondering how many people who consider that they have successfully used manifestation/LoA have achieved wealth, that is unexpected wealth or surprise amounts of money coming to them without getting it through the traditional route of work? I know that a lot of people who use LoA will say that hard work is a part of LoA but in this instance I am just asking for examples from people who manifested large sums without having to do any work, so through things like the lottery, betting, finding money in the street, having money unexpectedly come their way - what many laymen would call "luck" rather than LoA.


Oh and my favorite books have been from Dr. Joseph Murphy and Claude Bristow.

No not millions, hundreds and thousands yes. Sometimes I'm amazed how easy it is and many times wonder why it isn't here right now!
If so, what book or method do you credit with getting the right mindset for LoA/manifestation to work for you?

PS. Please do not answer if money has not come you way, even if you feel the universe has provided you with "abundance" (I hate that word) in any other way or if you have become a millionaire through hard work alone.

No not millions, hundreds and thousands yes. Sometimes I'm amazed how easy it is and many times wonder why it isn't here right now! I don't believe in all the wordy affirmations the gurus say you suppose to recite or think. It's more of a feeling of knowing that you going to get/have it, not just a wish. I believe you can get something for nothing and without a lot of "hard work" or much effort. And I'm talking the legal way not by stealing or conning others. I have mentioned before that my hobby is entering sweepstakes and contests and I have won big and many things, cash, and trips from entering them. Like taking candy from a baby but most people do not believe that you can win and won't even try, so there you go.

[waizen]

Seahorse: thank you so much for your lengthy response. I have actually bookmarked this thread (the page, actually) because of this one post of yours alone. It really hit a note with me. And, don't apologize for the length...you had a lot of valued information here.

This is why I loved it:

In my case, I've been involved with IM since I was a teenager also. I'm 52, so that was a pretty long time ago. There have been large periods of times in my life when it wasn't part of my life, but I've always felt it as true as a core belief. Lately (the last two or so years) I've felt, what I can only describe, as a 'quickening' of sorts, where I've really been putting some time and study into this.

I've had quite a bit of success with manifestations but for whatever reason, money has always been a stumbling block for me. This has always bothered me.

I come from a family where most of the members have done well, financially. Not super rich, mind you, but quite comfortable. My family members all get along great, no one dislikes anyone else and everyone can be thought of as a decent person. Everyone's financial status can be thought of as having been earned by hard work (or smart work) but at least the common thread is that everyone has what they have.

...and then there's me...

I'm also a very decent person, the proverbial 'nice guy.' I work really hard. I'm smart, having earned a couple of degrees and such. Like all members of my family, I have a great work ethic, etc. But, it seems that money keeps alluding my existence. I'm not, in any way, in poverty level, but I find myself just scraping by. At the end of the month, after paying my bills, I actually just scape by, with only about a few dollars left in my bank account. Always just enough. Not more...not less. If I ever do happen on a few extra bucks somehow, then something happens to spend it for me. That's the time, for example, when my dog will do something stupid and spend that money with vet bills or something. You get the picture.

It's like trying to bring an airplane in for a safe landing but just barely making it to the edge of the landing strip...every time. Very stressful.

Now, after a long time looking at myself, I can safely state that I don't have any kind of negative thoughts about money. I don't think wealthy people are bad in any way. I'm actually happy for anyone who has money...I just wish I was one of them.

So, if I don't have any kind of negative image of rich people, then what? I kept thinking on this and thinking on this for a really long time.

Then, a simple thing hit me the other day: it's not that money is bad...just the opposite. It's that I have money up on too high a pedestal! With this realization, I examined my emotions whenever I think of me getting a high level of wealth. What I found is that the emotions are very similar to those whenever I encounter another person who I happen to have on a high pedestal.

For instance, if I anticipate being in the same room as a respected celebrity, or a former lover who I still have feelings for, there is a certain excited form of anxiety I feel. That is my closest description of what I feel whenever I think of myself actually having wealth. That anxiety then translates into myself not relating with being a wealthy individual. In fact, it directly manifests what I do think of myself: one who just gets by.

People with wealth and nice things don't think of those things as a big deal. Those surroundings have become a regular part of their environment; a regular part of their daily view. In my case, I have a problem taking the 'big deal' out of wealth. I need to start feeling it as being a part of my current life, in a natural way.

What you wrote basically said to me that I need to tackle my self image of what kind of person I am. Actually, I've been theorizing this for a while and your post solidified it.

What I've been doing is to realize that I am a member of my family...not the financial outcast (which is how I currently see myself). The techniques of visualization are not as important as what my daily core feelings are about my situation.

I have to go about my day, being a wealthy person. Making it a core belief which will eventually translate into a vibrational shift.

So, again, thank you. I'm glad you joined the forum and I can see you have a lot to offer.

[loapatti]

I do have one affirmation/belief that I do subscribe to that started me on the path to entering sweepstakes and also use it for other situations in my life. I heard about people winning big prizes and money and when I would see what they were doing that required no real talent or even much smarts I thought "if they can do it, I can too". That belief worked in sweeping and pretty much many other things in my life.

[MagicalRealist]

Originally Posted by waizen

...I'm not, in any way, in poverty level, but I find myself just scraping by. At the end of the month, after paying my bills, I actually just scape by, with only about a few dollars left in my bank account. Always just enough. Not more...not less. If I ever do happen on a few extra bucks somehow, then something happens to spend it for me. That's the time, for example, when my dog will do something stupid and spend that money with vet bills or something. You get the picture.

It's like trying to bring an airplane in for a safe landing but just barely making it to the edge of the landing strip...every time. Very stressful.

But you always manage to land safely, right? You never overshoot the runway and crash and burn?

Consider re-framing that from "I just had enough money to squeak through to the end of the month!" to "I had plenty of money to last until the end of the month! And I still have a few bucks left! Awesome!" And when you start to feel stressed out every month, remind yourself--"I always make it to the end of the month just fine! I have plenty of money!"

Sure, it sounds crazy, and it will feel like a lie at first, but if you can re-train yourself to recognize how what you already have is good, and acknowledge that it's good, it will become much easier to manifest something better.

...I examined my emotions whenever I think of me getting a high level of wealth. What I found is that the emotions are very similar to those whenever I encounter another person who I happen to have on a high pedestal.

...In my case, I have a problem taking the 'big deal' out of wealth. I need to start feeling it as being a part of my current life, in a natural way.

One thing that helps me is to go "shopping." Browsing in expensive stores, looking at objects I might want to buy, is part of it. But so is feeling comfortable in that kind of environment, as if I have every right to be there (because I do!).

Many people are intimidated by expensive shops. They're afraid the staff will be snobbish, or that they'll have to confess they can't really afford the expensive goods for sale. They become intensely aware of their lack of money (as well as their lack of other traits such as sophistication, taste, or worthiness to own these objects). They're effectively telling themselves that these things are too good for them (the pedestal you mentioned), and totally out of reach--and so they are.

So going into stores carrying luxury goods, paying attention to the thoughts and feelings that come up and recognizing them for the limiting ideas they are, can be very helpful. Repeating these kinds of shopping expeditions until you can feel comfortable and confident in that environment brings you into closer alignment with the vibration of wealth, as does getting used to the prices of items in those stores. When a $500 wallet or $25,000 watch no longer seem horrifically expensive, you're on the right track.

And you don't have to actually want these things, much less buy them--you just have to start seeing them as normal and attainable, not an out-of-reach exception to reality.

I did a similar exercise with houses, just before I started looking for my current house (only I did it online). I looked at real estate listings for houses far outside my price bracket--huge mansions, estates, penthouse apartments in NYC, private islands, etc. Initially, I felt intimidated at the thought of actually living in any of them--I'd have to have staff (and where was I going to find them, and how was I going to manage them, and could I trust them?), I'd have to live up to certain expectations, and to properly live in some of those houses I'd have to lead a certain lifestyle that seemed far out of reach.

But I kept looking at them, and imagining the life I would lead in those houses, until they stopped seeming so intimidating. I didn't want those houses, or that kind of lifestyle, but after spending some time playing with the idea of it I didn't feel so anxious about it anymore.

So when it came time to look for my current house, I didn't freak out when I spotted the perfect house online--the one I immediately knew was my house--even though the asking price was almost twice what I'd planned on spending. It was still a lot of money, but next to all the multi-multi-million-dollar estates I'd looked at, it was peanuts. And since I'd lost so much of my resistance to the idea of a house that cost that much, I actually managed to buy it--everything just fell into place, through an incredible set of circumstances.

[quiethumir]

You can be working hard, but at the same time, you feel free, and you enjoy whatever you do to manifest the goal. Everything can be effortless. Life doesn't have to be full of effort.

[waizen]

Originally Posted by MagicalRealist

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One thing that helps me is to go "shopping." Browsing in expensive stores, looking at objects I might want to buy, is part of it. But so is feeling comfortable in that kind of environment, as if I have every right to be there (because I do!)....

Excellent suggestion, MagicalRealist. Actually, that is something I do from time to time. It's a bit of a challenge in the area I'm currently living in because good quality upscale stores are not as common. Walmart is the most popular store around here.

However, I do take advantage of trips to visit family where I did grow up. I grew up in Northern New Jersey (USA). For those of you who are familiar with that area, you know there is no shortage of shopping areas, stores, etc. and the parking lots are always full.

Over the Thanksgiving holidays, I took a trip to one of the many malls...one with upscale stores...to purposely do just what you suggested. It was nice being around an active, crowded, mall. Unlike the mall in my area, this one didn't have most of its stores sitting empty. I walked around with my son and pretended I had all the money available to me to buy whatever I wanted...but just 'chose not to spend any money that day...didn't see anything that struck my fancy...nothing I couldn't live without...add to my collection...etc.'

When I was done window shopping, I noted my emotions and carried them back home with me.

I also did the same thing while visiting my relative's homes. I 'borrowed' the visuals of my relative's nice homes and used them as my own...especially how everyone acted in the homes...in other words...acting at home there.

Unfortunately, the visuals only lasted so long because when I came back to my area after the holidays, I was bombarded with a constant visual of where I live. The one with the 'Walmart way of life.'

Thanks for your response.

BTW: no, I cannot move from my current area at this time in my life because of family reasons.