Busting Loose - The Process

[Tom Be]

Hello everyone..

I am brand new here. Seems like a great community of like minded people.

Just finished reading BLFTMG. I know there is another very long thread in this forum. I did start reading it, but it seems that it's more of a discussion about the concepts, whether you believe them or not, etc.

I was hoping to start a purely practical one.

For example:

1) How long does it (did it in the beginning) take you to go through The Process?

2) How do you apply The Process when you are in the middle of your day activities (dealing with people, driving, working) and you can't sit down, close your eyes and really follow the steps?

[alambrose]

I ordered this book but haven't read it yet... could you provide a brief synopsis of the 'process' you mentioned?

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Tom Be

1) How long does it (did it in the beginning) take you to go through The Process?

How long does it take to cook a meal? Depends on the meal, right? Well, in the case of processing energy "easter eggs" (as the BL model terms it), it just depends on the egg.

For me, some things have come up over and over and over again, and every time, I had to process them. Some things came up briefly, were processed, and have not resurfaced. It can take only a few seconds, or twenty minutes, or an hour, or longer. It just depends.

Originally Posted by Tom Be

2) How do you apply The Process when you are in the middle of your day activities (dealing with people, driving, working) and you can't sit down, close your eyes and really follow the steps?

You don't have to site down and close your eyes. You can come up with an abbreviated method that works for you, once you get the knack of it. I often process stuff while driving. If I'm alone, I'll just say it out loud (something like "I recognise that I created this situation with my beliefs and expectations, and I'm grateful that my reality is so responsive. Now I'm going to remove my energy from this situation. I recall my energy, I pull it back, I retireve it" and I just go with it until I feel like stopping. The steps given in the book(s) are just a guideline. You can do it however you want.

If you REALLY can't concentrate at the time that something comes up, you can say, "I'm putting this aside right now, but I intend to return to it very soon. Until then, it will wait patiently for me to deal with it."

[Tom Be]

Originally Posted by alambrose

I ordered this book but haven't read it yet... could you provide a brief synopsis of the 'process' you mentioned?

You apply The Process when you feel any form of discomfort. You basically dive right into it and FEEL it in your body. Not as much intellectually, with your logic. Then you say certain phrases in order to reclaim your power from it. I'm sure you can find more detailed description on the internet, but I think it's much better (for me it was) if you read the chapters that lead up to The Process first. It will be much more fun that way.

Originally Posted by ButterflyWoman

For me, some things have come up over and over and over again, and every time, I had to process them. Some things came up briefly, were processed, and have not resurfaced. It can take only a few seconds, or twenty minutes, or an hour, or longer. It just depends.

I figured I'm probably gonna have to apply The Process to the same situation / discomfort / emotion more than once. I was just curious how long do people usually take each time. I see it can vary greatly, from seconds to over an hour.

Originally Posted by ButterflyWoman

You don't have to site down and close your eyes. You can come up with an abbreviated method that works for you, once you get the knack of it. I often process stuff while driving. If I'm alone, I'll just say it out loud (something like "I recognise that I created this situation with my beliefs and expectations, and I'm grateful that my reality is so responsive. Now I'm going to remove my energy from this situation. I recall my energy, I pull it back, I retireve it" and I just go with it until I feel like stopping. The steps given in the book(s) are just a guideline. You can do it however you want.

This is great, thank you.

So far, the few times I have tried, I had a hard time going from feeling the discomfort to feeling like the Expanded Self. I just couldn't make that transition.

[alambrose]

Again, haven't read the book yet but from what I am reading it seems a bit like The Sedona Method (another book I have on my nightstand, that I haven't got to yet and only have a tertiary understanding of at present).

[aSparrow]

Hi. I just finished the book today, but have been applying the process for a few days now, with varying degrees of success.
I'm having the same issue, in finding a suitable time to apply it; it is usually when I'm with someone, and they keep talking at me while I attempt to process!
Another problem I'm facing, is that when I try to go into my feeling, it starts to dissipate before I can reclaim the power. I guess this is because I'm calming down (I have a lot of anxiety to work with)? Has anyone noticed this, or have any suggestions?

[Tom Be]

The book suggests to dive into the feeling and then when it peaks.. that's when you should start applying the individual steps.

The thing is... the longer I stay with the feeling, the less intense it gets. It doesn't really peak, it gets weaker and weaker. Does it mean that I shouldn't really stay with the feeling? I should just apply The Process the minute I notice a discomfort?

[Debo]

The same happens for me, as soon as I put my awareness onto the discomfort, its depletes immediately, but I still do the process best I can,

Debo

[ButterflyWoman]

I don't have that experience at all. When I'm upset, I'm really upset, and it pretty much stays until I do something about it. When I was a kid, I was upset a lot (just that kind of family) and I used to stuff the emotions away (that backfired, years later, when I had to finally deal with all of it). Even now, when something gets me upset, it stays present, unless I consciously dismiss it.

In fact, for me, dismissing pain and other strong emotions was very difficult for pretty much all of my life. It's only quite recently that I've been able to manage these emotions and let them go easily.

[Tom Be]

It's interesting. If I'm upset and I get caught up in the illusion and I analyze and replay and justify and label... I usually stay upset as well.

But when I drop all of it and only try to feel the emotion... that's when I can't hold on to it. That's when it seems to disappear very quickly.

[Angela]

I have that same experience -- when I dive into the discomfort, it begins to dissipate immediately as soon as I begin the words, "Who I am is...." Rather than struggle to feel uncomfortable, I just allow it to be whatever it is and reclaim whatever power is there to reclaim, and then do the process again on what's left. It rarely takes more than twice to get really present to limitless creative power, but there have been a couple of times when I got frustrated because it wasn't "reclaiming," and so I did the process on THAT -- on that frustration.

Have you read Breaking Loose from the Business Game? It's an updated version, and I like the way the process is presented in there better, and I also think it does a better job of going into getting what there is to learn, really *getting* how you created what you've created in a very "practical" (inside the Game) way. My feeling is that if you just reclaim your power without getting those learnings, it's not nearly as effective or fun.

So, you might want to give that a try and see how it goes: do the process on your discomfort, and also look boldly at how exactly you created what made you uncomfortable - how you were at cause in the matter. I think that's where the gold is.

[Tom Be]

I haven't read Busting Loose From The Business Game. Sounds like I should.

I have asked before and I know there is no one right answer, but I'm curious what others' experiences are like. Angela, can you tell me how long does it take you (on the average) to go through The Process?

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Tom Be

I haven't read Busting Loose From The Business Game. Sounds like I should.

I have asked before and I know there is no one right answer, but I'm curious what others' experiences are like. Angela, can you tell me how long does it take you (on the average) to go through The Process?

About as long as it takes to say the words slowly - maybe a minute.

[Tom Be]

Thank you.

I think because I'm not used to feeling emotions and then my Expanded Self directly, it takes me a lot longer to get into the feeling. It's taking me way longer than a minute. But maybe it was also because I was trying to force myself to really feel the discomfort.

Originally Posted by Angela

... also look boldly at how exactly you created what made you uncomfortable - how you were at cause in the matter. I think that's where the gold is.

I'm not sure I know what you mean. Would you mind explaining it a little further? Sorry, I'm very new to this. Would I do this as a part of the actual Process or outside of it? Is this something that's described in the other book?

[aSparrow]

Maybe by thinking about the role our persona played in the event that we are doing the Process on rather than just dealing with the emotion. Maybe that way there is more to learn. I'm not sure, hopefully Angela will come back and elaborate

[Tom Be]

Originally Posted by aSparrow

Maybe by thinking about the role our persona played in the event that we are doing the Process on rather than just dealing with the emotion.

The way I understand it, we should not be using mind, logic or labels. We should only feel the discomfort and then reclaim our power from it. Thinking about our role would seem to go against the whole thing.

I also hope Angela will be back..

[Debo]

I am currently reading this book again for the 4th or 5th time, it is slowly sinking in to my pea brain, after reading this book and listening to Lester Levenson I cannot even go back to LoA stuff really, it feels wrong and dis jointed for me, anyone else feel the same after reading and understanding BLFTMG ????

Debo

[ButterflyWoman]

I don't know what you mean by "LOA stuff", but I will say that as my reality becomes more and more fluid and less constrained by attachments and beliefs and so on, I have less and less use for formulae or methods by which to elicit change. I can't invest any energy into magickal ritual (not that I was ever a big practitioner, but I did look into it), into religious ritual, into any sort of "follow these steps and do these material things and everything will change" things.

I don't mean to be dismissive, because all of those things can be useful for people, but I just see them as fairly meaningless now. The reason they work is because people believe they'll work, and now that I know this, I just can't see the point.

To use the terminology of the Busting Loose model, these things are very much set in Level One thinking.

[Debo]

Sorry I didnt make my statement clear, what i meant by ``LoA stuff``, I meant the focusing on what you want, then watching your thoughts, only think about the things you want,not what you don`t want and then all the visualizing. I feel I`ve gone past all this,yes its very useful but like Roberts states in his book - the results are not fluent and consistent, I very much agree with him,because it just makes you become frustrated and knocks you confidence because you are measuring your ability to manifesting by other peoples results to your own results.

I want to have complete freedom, see thru this illusion for myself and then mould my life to what I want it to be, without restrictions and worries

Debo

[Debo]

Also I forgot to add, today I created so many discomforting situations,but found it hard to re claim power back because I chose not to judge the circumstances as negative, but I still sort of went thru the mini process, anyone else beginning to not negatively respond to lifes stresses???

Debo

[Sponge]

Hey Debo, only me. Totally agree. As I remember more and more that this is an illusion it seems everything is manifesting all of a sudden, big things and small. Obviously you need to 'let go'. Money doesn't hold much energy for me at the moment and although it's not easy I just feel different somehow. I appreciate that the 'perceived' bad stuff will happen too...it's just life. Maybe it's a sort of 'accepting' of the way things are. I still get caught up in negative thoughts but Loa is useful as it teaches us to refocus and be appreciative.

[Debo]

Hi Sponge, its good that you are beginning to see signs now of it all being an illusion, for me the reason why I am not concentrating on manifesting is because I am trying to conquer the multitude of thoughts whizzing round my head. I feel if I crack mastering rising above thoughts and stop judging situations/circumstances as good bad or indifferent, and do not have an agenda of what I want to see or receive, I will be almost there. I can only try and see where this gets me.

Debo

[Sponge]

Hi Debo, can I suggest you do the process on that - that kind of thinking (having to master thoughts etc) keeps you trapped in the illusion. That's what got me before. Once you realise this those thoughts loose power on their own.

[Debo]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Hi Debo, can I suggest you do the process on that - that kind of thinking (having to master thoughts etc) keeps you trapped in the illusion. That's what got me before. Once you realise this those thoughts loose power on their own.

Good idea, because so many thoughts pop in its very difficult to master stopping them, it can be done though.

this time round reading the book has really helped me loads, only thing is if I have a negative situation occur, there is no power to collect because I dont feel discomfort. I`m sure some discomfort will come to me soon enough (be careful what we wish for) haha

Has anyone actually `busted loose` yet?

Debo