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Balbrae 12-02-2011 02:33 PM

Which is the Greater Power?
 
Which is the greater power:

(1) The power to "suck it up" (i.e., perseverance); or

(2) The power to manifest a life of ease, where "sucking it up" or perseverance is not required?

lycan 12-02-2011 02:48 PM

If you can manifest an abundant #2 it is obviously the greater power. Do you mean to ask if this power exists?

Balbrae 12-02-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lycan (Post 1032701)
If you can manifest an abundant #2 it is obviously the greater power. Do you mean to ask if this power exists?

Hi, Lycan:

I know that both powers exist. I simply ask which is the greater power. Manifesting abundance and ease is indeed an amazing power!

Zenn 12-02-2011 03:22 PM

To compare powers, ask which can override the other. I don't think either is the power. They are choices. You dicided which to enpower. The power is the power of choice.

lycan 12-02-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Balbrae (Post 1032710)
Hi, Lycan:

I know that both powers exist.

How? I ask because I often have trouble believing in the second power. I know some people have abundant, "effortless" lives, but when I look closer it seems like luck and not something that can actually be reproduced. Can you help me cement my belief in effortless abundance?

wstein 12-02-2011 04:14 PM

(3) the power to express your inner nature

Balbrae 12-03-2011 02:04 PM

I think that neither is more powerful because one leads to the other. The power to persevere is the power to stay riveted to one's vision, and block out all distractions. Technically speaking, one who perseveres has already manifested a life of ease and abundance because perseverance is a state of mind, where nothing will deter one. If nothing will deter one, then that state is tantamount to having already achieved a state of abundance (abundance of commitment, which leads to a state of ease and grace) and ease.

Think about it: have you, from time to time, been so committed to an outcome that it's non-manifestation was not a possibility? Hence, perseverance = abundance and ease.

guthrio 12-03-2011 09:21 PM

Which is the Greater Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Balbrae (Post 1032696)
Which is the greater power:

(1) The power to "suck it up" (i.e., perseverance); or

(2) The power to manifest a life of ease, where "sucking it up" or perseverance is not required?

Balbrae,

What an interesting dichotomy of choices.

You may find it ironic, however, that the very power within us to do either, does so with equal facility...as WE choose.

"Your attitude, not your aptitude, determines your altitude."
- Zig Ziglar


The greatest and most valuable gift is the power to CHOOSE whether knowledge ennobles or debases one's Spirit.....

......with its use.

Know Thyself.....

......and know the One Who loves us so much that He has freely given us the infinite power of His Own Spirit to love Him and EACH OTHER BACK.....by OUR choice....

.....for ourselves, BY ourselves.

.....or NOT.

Source(s):
Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East
Volumes 1 - 6 by Baird T. Spalding

Balbrae 12-03-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by guthrio (Post 1033524)
Balbrae,

What an interesting dichotomy of choices.

You may find it ironic, however, that the very power within us to do either, does so with equal facility...as WE choose.

"Your attitude, not your aptitude, determines your altitude."
- Zig Ziglar


The greatest and most valuable gift is the power to CHOOSE whether knowledge ennobles or debases one's Spirit.....

......with its use.

Know Thyself.....

......and know the One Who loves us so much that He has freely given us the infinite power of His Own Spirit to love Him and EACH OTHER BACK.....by OUR choice....

.....for ourselves, BY ourselves.

.....or NOT.

Source(s):
Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East
Volumes 1 - 6 by Baird T. Spalding

Hi, Guthrio:

Correct perspective, indeed! The power to choose is the true power. One's choice in persevering is a choice of insistence, which is a choice of pure focus. And I remember listening to audio tapes of good ol' Zig Zigler in the 1990s. He was a very motivational person. :)

arpee 12-05-2011 09:36 PM

The greatest power is going with the flow, because you accept all things as they are and that is what true love is instead of always trying to "manifest" this and that.

Once you manifest one thing you're gonna start running in circles chasing one desire, being happy for a short amount of time and then chasing another.


God just is, God just exists, so even God is just going with the flow.

ming 12-09-2011 09:32 PM

Sorry Buddhas alike but going with the flow is the lazy way of going about life, is having herd mentality, you conform with the general status quo, in which you don't challenge a single thing that it has been implanted in your mind by culture, your parents, your friends, your government, etc. Everything is fine according to you because you are content no matter what.

Sorry, great achievers don't go with the flow, they create the flows for others to follow.

Vision+constant force (labour)+perseverance= goal/dream/destiny coming true.

localrobert 12-10-2011 07:49 AM

I like option two. Option one doesn't seem sustainable over a long period of time. I don't understand the originating circumstances though.

localrobert 12-10-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ming (Post 1038358)
Great achievers don't go with the flow


Except in traffic where the great achievers are not the ones tailgating.


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