RIP Jerry Hicks

[cacheborn]

Jerry Hicks passed away last friday.

Law of Attraction BLOG — by Jerry and Esther Hicks Note from Esther About Jerry

[Reefs]

That's old news, commander wizard!

Jerry Hicks is 100% non-physical now

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

Jerry Hicks passed away last friday.

Law of Attraction BLOG — by Jerry and Esther Hicks Note from Esther About Jerry

I wonder if Esther used LoA to manifest his passing.

A new twist on the Agatha Christie mysteries:

Inspector Corner of the Yard: So, Miss Marple, what do you think? An overdose of arsenic, prussic acid, perhaps?

Miss Marple: No Inspector. A severe overdose of ... LoA (looking pointedly at a decidely uncomfortable Esther Hicks).

Inspector Corner of the Yard: Gasp!

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by Cantando

I wonder if Esther used LoA to manifest his passing.

A new twist on the Agatha Christie mysteries:

Inspector Corner of the Yard: So, Miss Marple, what do you think? An overdose of arsenic, prussic acid, perhaps?

Miss Marple: No Inspector. A severe overdose of ... LoA (looking pointedly at a decidely uncomfortable Esther Hicks).

Inspector Corner of the Yard: Gasp!

Well, it's no secret that this is Esther's worst nightmare which Esther and Jerry tried to avoid with positive affirmations. But you get what you think about no matter if you want it or not.

So, Mr Inspector is absolutely right!

[arpee]

Originally Posted by Cantando

I wonder if Esther used LoA to manifest his passing.

So many things are possible. Maybe they set up their lives this way before they were born. Abraham DID mention pre-life agreements.

Maybe the Christian God does exist and he did this to prove that HE is in control of our lives and not ourselves.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by arpee

Abraham DID mention pre-life agreements.

Did he now? Hmm, a possible suspect. Do you know where we can get hold of this 'Abraham'?

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by Cantando

Did he now? Hmm, a possible suspect. Do you know where we can get hold of this 'Abraham'?

Abraham is like society, it's a group entity, a concept. So, good luck trying to get hold of it!

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by Reefs

Abraham is like society, it's a group entity, a concept. So, good luck trying to get hold of it!

Sounds like a job for Inspector Poirot!

[inri]

I posted an article many months ago on my site addressing the issue of Jerry's cancer and It's been quite the little controvesy creator. The days here just following his death have seen my traffic increase by almost 1000 a day just due to this article.

There's definitely two camps. One who is using Jerry's cancer and now his death to point accusingly to claim: "See...this whole thing is a scam." Then there's the other camp that says; "The only thing this proves is that Jerry is/was human and that knowing about this and actually applying it are two different things", and/or, the message inherent in LOA actually goes much deeper than trying to get what I want...more like, "LOA is one of the best teachers around for acceptance of what is".

Looking back, it was mentioned many times how Jerry's diet was purposefully tailored 'for good health.' He apparently lived on a diet high in salmon and spinach....clearly an indicator imo of someone who worries about health and thus holds a belief that a specific diet is necessary to counter the threats to good health that exist otherwise.

If anything, Jerry's death demonstrates how deep some of our beliefs go even in the face of other beliefs that might appear to be contrary...if even the spouse of the one doing this channeling...and the one who was supposedly mostly responsible for the summoning of the specific message had difficult applying these teachings, this indicates that these teachings are not so much about 'being perfect' but more about doing the best we can.

IN the end it seems to me that Jerry went out applying the most important message inherent in these teachings and that is that regardless of what our reality is presenting, acceptance is possible. IMO, Unconditional acceptance of present reality is what the best LOA teachings offer us.

Most believe they'll be happy when they get their stuff, but if they can accept their present moment, they'll be happy before they get their stuff....and then as a result of their alignment, they'll get their stuff..(even though at this point, it's really not all that important anyway).

Can't help but wonder with all of Jerry's pondering and curiosity if he'd reached the point of exhausting the questions he could ask from this physical vantage point. I'm expecting some interesting channeling to be coming from Esther...lots of input from Jerry I'm thinking.

[Bliss Sage]

Originally Posted by inri

Can't help but wonder with all of Jerry's pondering and curiosity if he'd reached the point of exhausting the questions he could ask from this physical vantage point. I'm expecting some interesting channeling to be coming from Esther...lots of input from Jerry I'm thinking.

I've been thinking something along those lines as well. I was thinking, I wonder if he hadn't been communing so much with Abraham that somewhere in him he wanted to cross over and join him.

I find it really arrogantly annoying that all those people have granted themselves omniscient authority over Jerry's thoughts and feelings with the automatic assumption that he wanted to continue as he had been, as if dying in and of itself is proof of something, worst of all, that it could be proof that Abraham is a scam...as if Jerry should have both wanted to live forever and been able to do it. People die!!

[inri]

Originally Posted by Bliss Sage

I've been thinking something along those lines as well. I was thinking, I wonder if he hadn't been communing so much with Abraham that somewhere in him he wanted to cross over and join him.

I find it really arrogantly annoying that all those people have granted themselves omniscient authority over Jerry's thoughts and feelings with the automatic assumption that he wanted to continue as he had been, as if dying in and of itself is proof of something, worst of all, that it could be proof that Abraham is a scam...as if Jerry should have both wanted to live forever and been able to do it. People die!!

Well, that's the thing. From what I understand he was 80+......surely we all reach a point where we feel a certain level of completion.



When we really come to see that death is not this big, bad horrible thing....then the issue of whether someone was 'out of alignment' and this is the reason they passed, need not even arise.

From what I understand, despite the leukemia, Jerry's last months were peaceful and he remained in good spirits.

Perhaps rather than cutting out without a moments notice, his illness allowed Esther to adjust to the idea of his physical departure.

But in the end, you're so right. It truly is silly to think that anyone looking on can make accurate judgments about what's going on regarding the intents and preferences of another. There are simply too many factors to consider.

[arpee]

The only thing that's sad is that on the blog Esther was doing these visualizations and stuff and saying "It was just a spider".

She seems so sincere, like she actually believe that his cancer was "no big deal" and he can get over it...

Jerry has gotten some personal information from Abraham. Abraham would use Esther to tap on him to avoid the police and they were always right. I don't think he had a doubt in his mind about Abraham - so if they said "You can heal any sickness - I'm 100% sure he believed after seeing all the other stuff they knew.

But somehow he still passed.

I have NO doubt in my mind that Esther and Jerry are sincere about what they do. I enjoy listening to Abraham, but this has raised many questions...


Maybe God did this to show us that we CAN'T control everything in our life, that HE is in charge and we have to learn to LOVE & ACCEPT unconditionally and that is our purpose. Maybe that is what this is a sign of.


You even say yourself that it taught people to be more accepting of "this" reality. But who knows...

[Frisky]

I read somewhere if someone contracts cancer as some past-life karma there is pretty much nothing you can do for that person. Including LOA.

Maybe that was the case here??

[inri]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by arpee

The only thing that's sad is that on the blog Esther was doing these visualizations and stuff and saying "It was just a spider".

She seems so sincere, like she actually believe that his cancer was "no big deal" and he can get over it...

I'm getting the sense that quite soon (if not already) Esther will very much also be seeing that Jerry's death is no 'big deal'...that he's every bit as close to her as he ever was..simply in a different form.

Jerry has gotten some personal information from Abraham. Abraham would use Esther to tap on him to avoid the police and they were always right. I don't think he had a doubt in his mind about Abraham - so if they said "You can heal any sickness - I'm 100% sure he believed after seeing all the other stuff they knew.

Oh, I don't doubt at all that Jerry trusted Abraham implicitly. The fact is though that we can just never really know about the intentions one holds.

I can relate to this personally. At 48 after a lifetime of good health, I suddenly find myself unwell.

I've known about the law of attraction since I was a child...there has never been anything that I truly intended that I haven't manifested. But now, here I am in a position of experiencing something that seems so out of line with all that I've come to know.

But upon further inquiry, I can see that intents and preferences occur in a heirarchy of sorts. I've always held a strong intent and curiosity over my ability to accept those things that I might previously have deemed to be unacceptable as I've come to see that this is what true freedom is all about.

As my understanding of the nature of reality has evolved, I've come to see that present moment acceptance of what IS, is my highest and strongest intent.

Therefore, in terms of the heirarchy of my personal intents, this one would trump a conscious desire for health as in the absence of health, I've actually manifested the perfect breeding ground to manifest my strongest intent (to experience an abiding freedom from attachment....and unconditional acceptance)

I have NO doubt in my mind that Esther and Jerry are sincere about what they do. I enjoy listening to Abraham, but this has raised many questions...

For me, it's reinforced the idea that death is a natural and 'perfect' part of life and that we cannot create in the experience of others. BUT..we always have control over the direction of our thought and thus we have control over whether or not we suffer when manifestations appear that we believe are contrary to what 'should be.'

[JagJ]

I am sorry to hear about this. I heard he had cancer. I am sure some on my LoA e-mail list are probably sad. Do you know how old he was when he passed? I think it was colon cancer, right?

[JagJ]

I can send you some Reiki if you'd like. Just send me a PM. Perhaps this will go towards your desire for improved health.

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by inri

I posted an article many months ago on my site addressing the issue of Jerry's cancer and It's been quite the little controvesy creator. The days here just following his death have seen my traffic increase by almost 1000 a day just due to this article.

There's definitely two camps. One who is using Jerry's cancer and now his death to point accusingly to claim: "See...this whole thing is a scam." Then there's the other camp that says; "The only thing this proves is that Jerry is/was human and that knowing about this and actually applying it are two different things", and/or, the message inherent in LOA actually goes much deeper than trying to get what I want...more like, "LOA is one of the best teachers around for acceptance of what is".

Looking back, it was mentioned many times how Jerry's diet was purposefully tailored 'for good health.' He apparently lived on a diet high in salmon and spinach....clearly an indicator imo of someone who worries about health and thus holds a belief that a specific diet is necessary to counter the threats to good health that exist otherwise.

If anything, Jerry's death demonstrates how deep some of our beliefs go even in the face of other beliefs that might appear to be contrary...if even the spouse of the one doing this channeling...and the one who was supposedly mostly responsible for the summoning of the specific message had difficult applying these teachings, this indicates that these teachings are not so much about 'being perfect' but more about doing the best we can.

IN the end it seems to me that Jerry went out applying the most important message inherent in these teachings and that is that regardless of what our reality is presenting, acceptance is possible. IMO, Unconditional acceptance of present reality is what the best LOA teachings offer us.

Most believe they'll be happy when they get their stuff, but if they can accept their present moment, they'll be happy before they get their stuff....and then as a result of their alignment, they'll get their stuff..(even though at this point, it's really not all that important anyway).

Can't help but wonder with all of Jerry's pondering and curiosity if he'd reached the point of exhausting the questions he could ask from this physical vantage point. I'm expecting some interesting channeling to be coming from Esther...lots of input from Jerry I'm thinking.

Very well said, Inri. There are two things that come up over and over again over the years with Jerry and Esther: 1) they are terrified of sickness 2) Esthers worst nightmare would be Jerry dying before her and leaving her back alone.

Well, now we know that Jerry was very sick before he died and now he's gone and Esther is left alone without him. Mission accomplished. Worst nightmares came all true exactly as envisioned.

It's just too obvious that there was a lot of pushing against unwanted going on with those two and that they just weren't the living happily ever after ones they liked themselves to be.

Those who call the Hicks circus a scam will hopefully rest in peace now for they finally got their 'proof'. Some of the abrahamster might be really shocked, especially those who are on the fence. The hardcore abrahamster might realize that just listening to happy tapes isn't enough.

Whatever happened or will happen it has nothing to do with the validity of the teachings. I'm sure the show will go on. And I expect Esther to take it to a whole new level.

[Zenn]

Why do people insist that the messenger and the message are the same thing?

I have heard very little from the Hicks, but very much from Abraham via Esther. I often wonder what she's like and what she would say.

[Criseyde]

Originally Posted by arpee

The only thing that's sad is that on the blog Esther was doing these visualizations and stuff and saying "It was just a spider".

She seems so sincere, like she actually believe that his cancer was "no big deal" and he can get over it...

Jerry has gotten some personal information from Abraham. Abraham would use Esther to tap on him to avoid the police and they were always right. I don't think he had a doubt in his mind about Abraham - so if they said "You can heal any sickness - I'm 100% sure he believed after seeing all the other stuff they knew.

But somehow he still passed.

I have NO doubt in my mind that Esther and Jerry are sincere about what they do. I enjoy listening to Abraham, but this has raised many questions...


Maybe God did this to show us that we CAN'T control everything in our life, that HE is in charge and we have to learn to LOVE & ACCEPT unconditionally and that is our purpose. Maybe that is what this is a sign of.


You even say yourself that it taught people to be more accepting of "this" reality. But who knows...

"All men must die"...

[supertom]

I find it very strange people reacting in a way that invalidates the teachings of Abraham, did people actually expect Jerry and Esther to live forever. Jerry also said that he hasn't visited a doctor for 20 years and he couldn't remember the last time he was sick, I do think it was his time to leave, I remember after they released the vortex meditations Jerry said he felt like his work was done.

[inri]

Originally Posted by JagJ

I am sorry to hear about this. I heard he had cancer. I am sure some on my LoA e-mail list are probably sad. Do you know how old he was when he passed? I think it was colon cancer, right?

From what I understand it was leukemia...and that he was 80+...(& thanks.)

[inri]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Reefs

Very well said, Inri. There are two things that come up over and over again over the years with Jerry and Esther: 1) they are terrified of sickness 2) Esthers worst nightmare would be Jerry dying before her and leaving her back alone.

You seem very familar with this material...were you perhaps an 'Aber' prior to becoming a non-person?

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by inri

You seem very familar with this material...were you perhaps an 'Aber' prior to becoming a non-person?

Yeah, I actually introduced the vortex concept to them.

Where did you get the info that Jerry's diet was salmon and spinach??

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by inri

I can relate to this personally. At 48 after a lifetime of good health, I suddenly find myself unwell.

That's just Chris' cold that has gone viral on the forum.

As my understanding of the nature of reality has evolved, I've come to see that present moment acceptance of what IS, is my highest and strongest intent.

How do you mean that?

[kapootala]

I am in total appreciation of Jerry Hicks as a man and husband to the world at large.
He was more than a backbone to the LOA performer Esther Hicks of Abraham
I remember an LOA video on U Tube where the HEE HAW of Jerry was a sign that all is well with world and life was worth living and our business is to carry on regardless of the surroundings that could impede our progress as creators.

Many of readers of LOA and Esther Hicks intune with Abraham feel that through the power of the human mind which was amplified by Esther always and most often , there should have been an Abraham entry at this time of the Jerry malady to inform Esther as to what best is to be done for the survival of Jerry as Jerry was a fulcrum to the entire Abraham discourses on this earth. Or is it that Abraham respects no human entity and all are the same to him even an earthly angel like Jerry.

Or is that we are being made to acknowledge that above all the dictas and solemn discourses on LOA and the 'thoughts become things' modus operandi there is a GOD of Abraham and Issac who has the final say and no law can go against what he has laid down for all times to com. he has created...will always be the creator and will always have the last word on his creations no matter how you manupilate his workings for this earth as you activate all your God given gifts as per your inbuilt DNA which only he programs as you enter into reality.

Also Jerry was on a diet at a later stage and was not brought up on fruit and vegetable diet that which the human body can and is built to handle only.
So, the American diet which is ssoooo soooo dangerous to put in your body is filled with all ingredients that can make you say bye bye to this earthly platform even before your time is up , mentally.

Esther has spoken at length on all and sundry with respect to LOA, the Now, Source energy, the Vortex, etc....but never on diet which in the first place is needed to get into the vortex as a badly adjusted human body can never settle down to a clear thinking process and the poisons in the body send negative signals and discourage the mind to think straight. have you noticed that all intelligencia are students of guru ...even by default. Yoga leads to meditation and the wquation is now in order.

In the east and the slopes of the Himalayas you will find men and women who are in constant prayer- only gratitude prayers to the Source of All Energies and they are prayers of thanksgiving only. They do not offer prayers as interceders to Source Energy or God.These meditating gurus are all over 110 years of age and strong in body and mind. They are vegetarians and fruitarians and their only sustenace thereafter is in Yoga and Meditation. They are dis- ease free and have their own set of healthy teeth.

[Bliss Sage]

Originally Posted by arpee

But somehow he still passed.

Who told you he was immortal? How could you believe something so obviously false?? I never heard Abraham or either of the Hicks say they were immortal.

Originally Posted by arpee

I have NO doubt in my mind that Esther and Jerry are sincere about what they do. I enjoy listening to Abraham, but this has raised many questions...

How many centuries do you deem he should have lived in order for you to deem their teachings credulous?

Originally Posted by arpee

Maybe God did this to show us that we CAN'T control everything in our life, that HE is in charge and we have to learn to LOVE & ACCEPT unconditionally and that is our purpose. Maybe that is what this is a sign of.

"Maybe" not. Maybe you're just using it as some kind of evidence to defend your Christian perception of life and death and God, which was somehow challenged by Abraham's teachings. Or maybe you just never understood Abraham's teachings, which never stated that man can be or is immortal.

[alambrose]

Originally Posted by kapootala

Also Jerry was on a diet at a later stage and was not brought up on fruit and vegetable diet that which the human body can and is built to handle only.
So, the American diet which is ssoooo soooo dangerous to put in your body is filled with all ingredients that can make you say bye bye to this earthly platform even before your time is up , mentally.

I'm glad that this is not my belief... I can eat virtually anything with impunity (excluding the obvious, poisons, etc), and the human body is more than well equipped to handle it. According to Seth: What you believe about what you eat, is FAR more important than what you actually eat, and the human body can handle a much broader range of dietary extremes than we are currently aware of, and still function and thrive at a higher capacity than we do now (paraphrasing).

[arpee]

Originally Posted by Bliss Sage

Who told you he was immortal? How could you believe something so obviously false?? I never heard Abraham or either of the Hicks say they were immortal.

Neither did I. I never said they were. What they DID say was that you can heal ANY sickness, yet the cancer wasn't healed. In fact, Abraham said that we can choose how we die and Esther and Jerry wanted to live "happy happy happy happy DEAD!", however Jerry physically suffered through cancer before dying...

Originally Posted by Bliss Sage

How many centuries do you deem he should have lived in order for you to deem their teachings credulous?

He should have been able to die quickly and through happiness since they were "prepaving" their deaths to be "happy then dead"... Not a suffering cancer lasting for months.

I'm just saying that if Abraham's teachings are 100% true, they are too hard for people to follow if Esther and Jerry can't even get it right.

Ultimately, he carved and undesired death even though he's been listening for years and they were summoned because of HIS questions. He couldn't even prepave a painless happy death correctly.

Originally Posted by Bliss Sage

"Maybe" not. Maybe you're just using it as some kind of evidence to defend your Christian perception of life and death and God

Who said I was a Christian? I find it funny that whenever someone mentions GOD, they automatically assume Christianity.

Originally Posted by Bliss Sage

maybe you just never understood Abraham's teachings, which never stated that man can be or is immortal.

I understand this. See above.

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I would just like to add that Abraham has definitely helped me on my path with becoming more optimistic and stuff. They teachings are helpful because at least you'll be more at peace with life then without their teachings, but the detriment is telling you that in order to be 100% in the vortex (which means being happy), you'd have to "croak", until then you'll never be 100% in, so you'll always on some level, be creating negative stuff, like Jerry's unwanted cancer.

Even if the teachings are 100% true, they are not 100% effective. They tell you what perfection is and let you know that you'll never get it until you die, so until then just try to be as happy as you can be to be "in the vortex" as much as possible.

It's nice but it still has a bit of this "unpeacefulness", "negativity" to it.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by arpee

Neither did I. I never said they were. What they DID say was that you can heal ANY sickness, yet the cancer wasn't healed. In fact, Abraham said that we can choose how we die and Esther and Jerry wanted to live "happy happy happy happy DEAD!", however Jerry physically suffered through cancer before dying...

He should have been able to die quickly and through happiness since they were "prepaving" their deaths to be "happy then dead"... Not a suffering cancer lasting for months.

I'm just saying that if Abraham's teachings are 100% true, they are too hard for people to follow if Esther and Jerry can't even get it right.

Ultimately, he carved and undesired death even though he's been listening for years and they were summoned because of HIS questions. He couldn't even prepave a painless happy death correctly.

I think this is an interesting point.

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by arpee

Neither did I. I never said they were. What they DID say was that you can heal ANY sickness, yet the cancer wasn't healed. In fact, Abraham said that we can choose how we die and Esther and Jerry wanted to live "happy happy happy happy DEAD!", however Jerry physically suffered through cancer before dying...

He should have been able to die quickly and through happiness since they were "prepaving" their deaths to be "happy then dead"... Not a suffering cancer lasting for months.

I'm just saying that if Abraham's teachings are 100% true, they are too hard for people to follow if Esther and Jerry can't even get it right.

Ultimately, he carved and undesired death even though he's been listening for years and they were summoned because of HIS questions. He couldn't even prepave a painless happy death correctly.

That's right. I think the common logic is that the more you are exposed to Abraham the more you should be able to apply the teachings. And if you only read the books, that might come close. But when you listen to a lot of their workshop recordings, your experience will be very different.

Abraham sometimes blurt out some funny details about Jerry and Esther and their little hang ups in daily life in order to make their point. I will always remember how Abraham told the story about how angry Jerry was with Esther because she mangled his toothpaste tube every morning and he wanted it to look so neat and tidy.

My impression is (based on Abraham's blurt outs, ie hearsay) when it's about the bigger picture of life they both had it down, but failed so often in daily life because their LOA expertise is entirely memory-based, it's more learned knowledge than perception altering realizations.

And another thing one should keep in mind is that Jerry had quite some exposure to negativity and unwanted stuff because of Abraham. Abraham was both a source of positivity and negativity for him. Jerry would listen during the workshops to people's problems, then he would listen to the recordings with Esther after the workshops ended and then he would edit these workshop recordings and later he would even compile them into series and books and videos etc. That means he must have listened to every problem presented to Abraham at least 5 times or more! Which means his focus was often on things he would not have wanted. And not only one problem but a plethora of human issues over almost 3 decades.

So I'm not surprised that what happened now happened exactly the way it happened.