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Old 11-23-2011, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is being ok with a negative outcome considered detachment?

Is accepting all possible negative outcomes also considered detachment?
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Yes, detachment is peace, it's allowing things to be no matter how they are... however, don't forget that optimism is just as important as detachment. So, don't dwell on the negatif.
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Is being ok with a negative outcome considered detachment?

Is accepting all possible negative outcomes also considered detachment?
It’s not about whether or not you consider that situation to be ‘negative’ or ‘OK’, that is judgment.

Acceptance is its own thing too. The lack of acceptance being denial.

Detachment is about whether or not something automatically causes you to act. When you are detached, you act because you choose to act, not from being compelled or preconditioned.
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Is being ok with a negative outcome considered detachment?

Is accepting all possible negative outcomes also considered detachment?
I think that being okay with a negative outcome is a bit of an oxymoron. (If one is okay, then that implies acceptance, and the quality of perceiving something as "negative" is transformed.)

However, if your question is really, "Is it okay to let go of manifestations that I did not consciously intend to occur?" then I would say resoundingly, "Yes! let the unintended manifestations go, and manifest that which you consciously intend to manifest!"

For me the concept of "accepting all possible negative outcomes" under the rubric of "detachment" is really a coy way of saying, "I don't believe in the LoA" or "I probably won't succeed." That is certainly not an optimal way of going about intention-manifestation work. However, "detachment" could mean accepting all possible variations of your intended manifestation (not "all negative outcomes").

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Old 11-24-2011, 06:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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As I see it, attachment is when that what you want to attract to your life, has too much power over you. When you can feel in a way you would like with or without that what you desire, then you are detached. So if you can feel prosperous, free and relaxed even when you don't have money, money doesn't have power over you and you are detached.
A lot of people (including me) on this forum have experiences with forgetting about what they wanted to manifest and it manifests superfast right after that. It's because of detachment. However, this works mostly for minor manifestations. You never completely forget about that major things you would like to attract, for those you have to practice feeling of joy, health, love, prosperity, (, or whatever it is you feel you are lacking) with or without it, not depending on outer circumstances to bring you joy, health, love, prosperity(, or whatever it is you feel you are lacking).
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As I see it, attachment is when that what you want to attract to your life, has too much power over you. When you can feel in a way you would like with or without that what you desire, then you are detached. So if you can feel prosperous, free and relaxed even when you don't have money, money doesn't have power over you and you are detached.
A lot of people (including me) on this forum have experiences with forgetting about what they wanted to manifest and it manifests superfast right after that. It's because of detachment. However, this works mostly for minor manifestations. You never completely forget about that major things you would like to attract, for those you have to practice feeling of joy, health, love, prosperity, (, or whatever it is you feel you are lacking) with or without it, not depending on outer circumstances to bring you joy, health, love, prosperity(, or whatever it is you feel you are lacking).
Hi, Salem: you raise some very good points. I think the success to which you refer in "detaching" probably results from reducing or eliminating resistance. So, if someone is constantly fretting, "where's my stuff, already!" then that sends a signal of doubt, which pushes it away. All detachment really means is "I got this manifestation in the bag, no need to watch it's arrival." So detachment so defined is a good thing!
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Yes, detachment is peace, it's allowing things to be no matter how they are... however, don't forget that optimism is just as important as detachment. So, don't dwell on the negatif.
I agree with this.
Detachment is to me is the ability to relinquish the control you feel on the matter.
I notice there are 2 sides to LOA.
Those that think if you think and release it, put yourself in the right frequency to accept it, it will happen. They use detachment often. It is more like the saying; "I leave it in God's hands." It's the subversion of power and control over the matter to something you believe has your best interests at heart. That way if the results don't show through, it's a part of a divine plan. Something bad happens, its a plan of the plan, "Keep calm and carry on."

The next side deals a lot of action. Obsession to the point you feel no choice but to push action. Your mind is constantly seeking avenues to explore. eg. You desire to be a talented guitarist. You listen to music, you get inspired by certain songs, you start hanging out with people who also share the same interests, you start looking at guitars (and buy one on sale or are given one or play your friends), you learn chords and maybe sheet music, you learn to play whole songs, you memorize songs you love, you play in a band or start recording your works, people then tell you "you are extremely talented". Your mind never lets it go, you can't push it out the foreground. It becomes a part of your essence. Detachment in this sense is the relinquishing of control how. It's the savouring of the journey and doing it strictly for self or mastery (Like RSA animates: Drive).

I don't agree with the the questions posed in the OP, but I can see how it is still essential to LOA.
Detachment, to me, means your release on the controls and stipulations.
It doesn't mean accepting all negative outcomes, but rather being unswayed by any that may occur along the way. To release any and all issues, even hindrances, that do not deal with the crux of the desire. Not worrying or being connected about how or when. To be at peace with everything as it is until what you desire arrives.
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Thanks guys for the replies. There's more to the law of detachment than i thought
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Is accepting all possible negative outcomes also considered detachment?
This is one part of it. Another part of detachment is releasing all desire for the intended outcome. So that you can feel peaceful and loving either way. The teaching I follow states that feeling desire for something is expressing to the universe that you do not have it and the universe will continue to give you the lack of it. So releasing desires (attachments) and fears of other outcomes (aversions) allows you to feel abundant, peaceful, loving, grateful, etc. toward any outcome while intending the one that you choose. This results in a very happy quiethumir Lester Levenson says that releasing all attachments and aversions is when you can attract anything with the thought of it.
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This is one part of it. Another part of detachment is releasing all desire for the intended outcome. So that you can feel peaceful and loving either way. The teaching I follow states that feeling desire for something is expressing to the universe that you do not have it and the universe will continue to give you the lack of it. So releasing desires (attachments) and fears of other outcomes (aversions) allows you to feel abundant, peaceful, loving, grateful, etc. toward any outcome while intending the one that you choose. This results in a very happy quiethumir Lester Levenson says that releasing all attachments and aversions is when you can attract anything with the thought of it.
Hi, Abha:

I get the sense that "releasing all desire for the intended outcome," defeats the purpose of trying to give manifestation or effect to the desire, to begin with. How does that work for you? It's a tough concept, and there is a tension between wanting something in the first place, then unwanting it. Please help me understand better what you do in this regard. Cheers!
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Being able to proceed with your journey regardless of the outcome. Negative or positive, you don't allow yourself to remain in that one place simply because of the way you perceived the circumstances.

That's how I feel about it.
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