A different model for LoA

[waizen]

Now, I've been a practitioner of LoA for roughly 35 years...long before the term 'Law of Attraction' was as trendy as it is today. I thoroughly believe in it, etc.

But, lately, I've been thinking about a different way of explaining the universe and the ways things work. I came up with the following model on my own, although I'm sure I'm not the first to come up with it. Please let me know of others who have also thought of the following:

Okay, so my understanding of LoA involves the fact that reality is exactly as it is for each one of us because we happen to be a vibrational match with all the things, circumstances and relationships within our current reality. When we alter the vibrational match for something or event, the reality of it changes accordingly. All of that will happen whether we know it or not (with our physical brains)...whether we want it to or not (by way of our physical life). You cannot 'switch off' LoA or not use it. It always is. It is an impersonal truth that will happen regardless of whether we want it to or not...like it or not. What we are all attempting to do is bring some control into the phenomena to create what it is we want to be and avoid what we perceive to be chaos in our lives (yes, I know it is not chaos...just what we are manifesting without physically thinking about it...but I digress). That is a simplistic explanation, I agree, but bear with me.

So, lately I've been thinking about the (theoretical?) existence of parallel universes.

What if there are in fact other versions of our realities in existence? How many? I'm thinking there are as many versions of reality as there are possibilities. That is a huge number, to say the least, when you consider how many possibilities there are for anything. Probably more true to say it is an infinite number.

There could be a universe where I am existing exactly the way I am existing right now, with my fingers typing, my dog sitting in the chair next to me and my coffee mug next to the computer. There is the reality where I'm living in another part of the world, in a war-ravaged country and I've actually been born a member of the Taliban (just trying to list a couple extremely different possibilities). There may be possible realities where there are just the smallest of possible differences, such as an alternate universe where every single thing is exactly the same as this one, but only my coffee mug is sitting a quarter of an inch to the left of where it is in this one.

Basically, a literal unlimited number of possible alternate universes since there is a literal unlimited number of possibilities of existence.

Okay, so if this is true, might it also be true that LoA is not really the altering of the universe we are currently inhabiting, but rather the fact that our being...our higher self...is just changing the parallel universe it is paying attention to at the moment? Just like changing a spiritual radio station whereby we want to experience another experience, along with all it has to offer?

Although I've practiced LoA for a long time, I haven't really read many different philosophers' points of view and I cannot be the only one who has wondered about this.

What is your view of this?

[VinceG]

I feel that what we call the LoA is an abstraction of a number of different "magical" phenomenon. One way I think things manifest is through jumping to these alternate universes you mention. I think this is happening whenever I manage to get a parking spot.

Another way could be simple telepathy. You broadcast the desire for a mate out to the universe, and that desire worms its way into the mind of a willing respondent, who then subconsciously follows the thread leading to you.

I think this process is driven by the conscious parts of ourselves that we don't have direct control over, like our chakras. Each of our chakras has its own intelligence and its own life force, they're like little beings living inside of you.

Perhaps spirit beings attached to you facilitate some of the requests.

[Balbrae]

Originally Posted by waizen

Now, I've been a practitioner of LoA for roughly 35 years...long before the term 'Law of Attraction' was as trendy as it is today. I thoroughly believe in it, etc.

But, lately, I've been thinking about a different way of explaining the universe and the ways things work. I came up with the following model on my own, although I'm sure I'm not the first to come up with it. Please let me know of others who have also thought of the following:

Okay, so my understanding of LoA involves the fact that reality is exactly as it is for each one of us because we happen to be a vibrational match with all the things, circumstances and relationships within our current reality. When we alter the vibrational match for something or event, the reality of it changes accordingly. All of that will happen whether we know it or not (with our physical brains)...whether we want it to or not (by way of our physical life). You cannot 'switch off' LoA or not use it. It always is. It is an impersonal truth that will happen regardless of whether we want it to or not...like it or not. What we are all attempting to do is bring some control into the phenomena to create what it is we want to be and avoid what we perceive to be chaos in our lives (yes, I know it is not chaos...just what we are manifesting without physically thinking about it...but I digress). That is a simplistic explanation, I agree, but bear with me.

So, lately I've been thinking about the (theoretical?) existence of parallel universes.

What if there are in fact other versions of our realities in existence? How many? I'm thinking there are as many versions of reality as there are possibilities. That is a huge number, to say the least, when you consider how many possibilities there are for anything. Probably more true to say it is an infinite number.

There could be a universe where I am existing exactly the way I am existing right now, with my fingers typing, my dog sitting in the chair next to me and my coffee mug next to the computer. There is the reality where I'm living in another part of the world, in a war-ravaged country and I've actually been born a member of the Taliban (just trying to list a couple extremely different possibilities). There may be possible realities where there are just the smallest of possible differences, such as an alternate universe where every single thing is exactly the same as this one, but only my coffee mug is sitting a quarter of an inch to the left of where it is in this one.

Basically, a literal unlimited number of possible alternate universes since there is a literal unlimited number of possibilities of existence.

Okay, so if this is true, might it also be true that LoA is not really the altering of the universe we are currently inhabiting, but rather the fact that our being...our higher self...is just changing the parallel universe it is paying attention to at the moment? Just like changing a spiritual radio station whereby we want to experience another experience, along with all it has to offer?

Although I've practiced LoA for a long time, I haven't really read many different philosophers' points of view and I cannot be the only one who has wondered about this.

What is your view of this?

Hi, Waizen:

Your points are well taken. As discussed elsewhere in another thread, two proponents of these ideas come to mind: (1) Quantum Physics' "Many-Worlds Theory"; and (2) Seth (who was channeled through the late, great Jane Roberts). The topic is a lot of fun, and recently we have been exploring the related topic of whether one can manifest a different past. (See e.g., Manifesting A Different Past).

How do you think it would boil down for you? Accessing alternate realities forward or backward? According to Seth this happens all the time! Enjoy the permutations!

[Okay]

Originally Posted by waizen

Basically, a literal unlimited number of possible alternate universes since there is a literal unlimited number of possibilities of existence.

Okay, so if this is true, might it also be true that LoA is not really the altering of the universe we are currently inhabiting, but rather the fact that our being...our higher self...is just changing the parallel universe it is paying attention to at the moment? Just like changing a spiritual radio station whereby we want to experience another experience, along with all it has to offer?

What is your view of this?

This is how the Seth character that Jane Roberts brought through taught IM; that you're not really creating--at least in the sense that we usually think of creating as coming from "nothing"--but you're choosing a "you" among the many (infinite?) yous available. See Nature of Personal Reality, chapters 14-17.

Neville also taught it like this. He called it "entering the state" you want to be. That all "states" exist eternally (inspired by Blake) and Imagination--which he saw as God within us--is how we enter those states. He clothed it in symbolic biblical language but it's very similar to how Jane wrote it. In NOPR much of the book discusses how to free oneself from limiting beliefs that thwart the entering of these desired states.

I think most of the work is dealing with these thorny and bitchy beliefs, which have been so conditioned into us--in who knows how many lifetimes. No matter what I heard or read I haven't found it easy to "let them go." I wish I could snap my fingers, but I find it's a process.

[Frans]

If you truly believe in subjective reality, there's no need for parallel universes or other complicated stuff to explain the LOA.

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by Frans

If you truly believe in subjective reality, there's no need for parallel universes or other complicated stuff to explain the LOA.

How is "truly believing" in subjective reality any different than garden-variety solipsism?

[waizen]

Originally Posted by Balbrae

Hi, Waizen:

Your points are well taken. As discussed elsewhere in another thread, two proponents of these ideas come to mind: (1) Quantum Physics' "Many-Worlds Theory"; and (2) Seth (who was channeled through the late, great Jane Roberts). The topic is a lot of fun, and recently we have been exploring the related topic of whether one can manifest a different past. (See e.g., Manifesting A Different Past).

How do you think it would boil down for you? Accessing alternate realities forward or backward? According to Seth this happens all the time! Enjoy the permutations!

As you'll recall, I had posted on that thread and you responded to my post at length. I started to respond to your posting with the idea I stated here but I thought it deserved a thread all its own...I didn't want to hijack the topic away from what you folks were discussing. Thank you for responding at length there, by the way.

I'm still unsure about the existence of a 'future' (except for in the planning stages in which it happens in the present) or the existence of an actual past, except for the memory of it, which also takes place in the present (I recently read 'The Power of Now' by Ekhart Tolle and I'm still feeling inspired by it...not sure how long this will last with me). I am open to the idea that time exists as a present/past/future 'combo' in which all are one, but it tends to make me think of it biased towards it happening in the now. But, who knows, I'm still open to ideas. I have never looked into Seth but I'm sure I will.

As for the parallel universe angle, no matter which universe your higher self would be paying attention to, it would be happening at that moment.

Doesn't the LoA also work in that way? Don't you visualize as if the desired object/situation/relationship is existing in the moment? In the 'now'? Doesn't work otherwise.

Again, I'm just examining a theory here. I'm not pushing it as a philosophy or anything.

[Frans]

Originally Posted by VinceG

How is "truly believing" in subjective reality any different than garden-variety solipsism?

Subjective Reality vs. Solipsism

[localrobert]

I think that it may be possible that multiple universes exist. Especially since many theoretical physics points to it. I tend to think of intention as even taking effect on that level. Quantum navigation perhaps. I tend to think of things where free will comes into play and "navigate" to a existence where such and such exists. The question is: is that actually occuring? I think that as one creates another reality that other reality is also creating this one. A future timeline perhaps is created in the present? Is retrocausality a reality? Can we create a different past? I think my instinct tells me no.