Manifesting somebody to get a broken leg and spend three months on crutches - How?

[hamix]

Due to past embarassments and being denied my RIGHTS per my society, I want the entitled to occur. How do I do it?

[VinceG]

You won't find much in the way of assistance for this goal, as teaching psychic retribution isn't one of the aims of this forum.

[hamix]

But the law can be used for anything, can it not?

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by hamix

But the law can be used for anything, can it not?

Of course it can. I was just saying you weren't likely to find assistance with using it in this particular manner.

[hamix]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Of course it can. I was just saying you weren't likely to find assistance with using it in this particular manner.

Why not?

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by hamix

Why not?

Karma. If we teach you to do stuff like this, then we become partially karmically responsible for whatever you do.

[mikethedrummer44]

And you'd feel better if you gave someone else a broken leg?

You should probably just move on with your life.

[hamix]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Karma. If we teach you to do stuff like this, then we become partially karmically responsible for whatever you do.

Karma doesn't exist, at least not in my conception. People have different life conceptions, get over it.

[hamix]

Originally Posted by mikethedrummer44

And you'd feel better if you gave someone else a broken leg?

You should probably just move on with your life.

yes, it would. Vengeance in general in inadvisable, but in this case it is.

[newkaren]

Originally Posted by hamix

yes, it would. Vengeance in general in inadvisable, but in this case it is.

Im sure they have it coming. But the best thing for you, and I speak from experance, is to use it as a learning experance, forgive them and move on.

Last febuary I caught my long term boyfriend in bed with a married co-worker. Its been a rough road, but it was the best thing to ever happen to me. Ive grown and changed so very much because of that experance. I also have let karma take care of them.

[VinceG]

Originally Posted by hamix

Karma doesn't exist, at least not in my conception. People have different life conceptions, get over it.

Lol, maybe not for you, but for others it's a very real concept.

You remind me of all those people who flood computer security forums with questions like, "Can you teach me how to hack?? I need to read my boyfriend's email right now!" You might not care that you're committing a felony by doing so, but the computer security professional you're asking for help very much does care. Because he could very well end up having to answer a federal subpoena.

[Criseyde]

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[LovelyMe]

Abraham Hicks was once asked if child molesters, criminals, etc can use Law of Attraction for their ill intentions, and their answer was no. Actually, I believe it was on the Oprah radio show. Here is the first part: ABRAHAM HICKS Oprah Winfrey Radio Interview Part 01 - YouTube

The biggest thing I see missing in your equation is your inner being, and your connection to Source.

Source is Love, and when you feel negative emotion, you are not connected to Source. Having ill will intentions towards anyone, even if you think it feels good, is not in alignment with Source.

What is happening is that you're working your way through the Emotional Guidance Scale. Your call to anger feels better than what you may have previously felt, such as powerlessness.

If you aren't familiar with this, here is a nice reference to the EGS that I've found: The EMOTIONAL GUIDANCE SCALE - Resources for Forum Members - Forums - Abraham-Hicks Discussion

[Zenn]

Why don't you just whack that person? Because there will be repercussions you fear and want to avoid? You know it's not "right" but you wish to do it in an undetectable way so you wouldn't face the consequences. Doing it by IM is just the same as if you physically whack that person, with consequences/karma incurred. What if you were whacked, physically or by IM?

Do unto others...........

Look a little deeper into yourself and you will find the answers there.

[wstein]

Like VinceG said, I will not tell you how to do it. It is possible but generally a bad idea. Most often it backfires and often it just starts a war. Sadly, revenge ultimately does not satisfy in the long run.

I will tell you to be specific (no posting names with ill intent allowed on the forums) when you speak about harming ‘someone’. Quite often that sort of non-specific phrasing affects the nearest person which most often is yourself. I suspect you do not wish to punish yourself further by breaking your own leg.

If they really have violated your ‘rights’ within your society, there should be a way get justice within your society.

[Merr]

We've all gone through periods where we've sought vengeance. Is what you really want a broken leg for this person or do you just want justice? The issue here is that this act of vengeance is not specific enough in terms of what you want and I don't think it actually is what you want or even need to be happy.

[Agota]

Originally Posted by hamix

Karma doesn't exist, at least not in my conception. People have different life conceptions, get over it.

I really suggest you to pay attention to what Vince is saying.

The problem with dark magic is that it eventually hits the person who is using it.

Don't play with fire, because once you notice that you're the one who's burning, it might be too late to stop.

[SethWilliams]

Of course it possible.

The guilt that comes with it is alot to deal with, let alone the unconscious things youll be creating in your own life by creating that on someone else.

[Sandstone]

60 seconds of my life I'll never get back

[Now123]

Originally Posted by hamix

Why not?

Because that is a deuchy thing to do, and nobody wants to help deuchebags.

[jeff3]

Originally Posted by LovelyMe

Abraham Hicks was once asked if child molesters, criminals, etc can use Law of Attraction for their ill intentions, and their answer was no. Actually, I believe it was on the Oprah radio show. Here is the first part: ABRAHAM HICKS Oprah Winfrey Radio Interview Part 01 - YouTube

I have to disagree, based on personal observations and history. Adolf Hitler is an extreme example of spiritual laws being used destructively. If you study his rise to power, enlistment of the collective vision of his countrymen, misuse of archetypal forces, and his own dynamic will (bolstered with amphetamine use) you will see that LOA and IM techniques were heavily used.Our world is not made of only bunnies and butterflies and the elemental forces that bring good into our lives is the same that brings hard times, it is the will that determines the focus.


As for the original question, sure you might be able bring such a calamity into this persons life, it's also possible that you cannot......if that makes sense. What is very unlikely is that you could do it without paying for it.

The real issue at hand is that you have lived such an unfocused life as to have left yourself open to being harmed in such a manner. Remember, you create your reality, even if you don't , if you know what I mean. Your whole post reeks of "I'm a victim". To seek revenge implies that you were wronged by another, if you were wronged by another, you are not creating your reality. To consciously use the LOA you you have to drop the victim mindset, when you drop that, you realize you were never wronged by another person, revenge becomes unnecessary. cool huh. For you to be able to consciously use the LOA to wack someone, you have to realize it was your creation start with. Also at some point you will learn that there is a reciprocal effect at work, call it what you will, say you don't believe in it, doesn't matter.

When you dig your enemies grave, go ahead and dig an extra hole, sooner or later you will occupy it.

[aelle]

Karma or not, if you attempt to bring vengeance through LOA you would have to concentrate on violence, anger and hate. I don't see how this is a pleasant state of mind to be in permanently, nor why you would want to bring more of it in your life.

[illbreaker]

[QUOTE=Merr;1000096]Is what you really want a broken leg for this person or do you just want justice?/QUOTE]

Can justice be manifested?

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by hamix

Due to past embarassments and being denied my RIGHTS per my society, I want the entitled to occur. How do I do it?

I suppose you could hit his leg with a baseball bat.

That might manifest some handcuffs and jail time on the side though.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by illbreaker

Can justice be manifested?

I have reason to think it can. I've certainly manifested irony in lots of situations (I love irony), and events that look for all the world like "karmic retribution" (for lack of a better term; basically just the coming around of what was going around). There's no reason to think one can't manifest justice, as well.

Although the OP sounds more like he wants revenge than justice. They really aren't the same thing (though some people think they are).

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

I have reason to think it can. I've certainly manifested irony in lots of situations (I love irony), and events that look for all the world like "karmic retribution" (for lack of a better term; basically just the coming around of what was going around). There's no reason to think one can't manifest justice, as well.

Although the OP sounds more like he wants revenge than justice. They really aren't the same thing (though some people think they are).

My father put me through a lot, and the last ten years for him have been one bad thing after another.

I didn't have to do a thing...it just kept coming and coming...and guess what...he has changed a hell of a lot from who he used to be years ago. I believe these experiences have helped him grow...though he can still be an ass at times, he is much better than he used to be and I doubt that would have been the case if he hadn't had so much crap happen to him the last ten years...which all started to come right around the time he did some pretty lame stuff to me.

The same goes for a female 'frenemy' of mine from the past. She showed me no real support when I was in hell, and I found out later that her brother was involved in a terrible car accident and was left a quadreplegic. She chose to look after him rather than have strangers do it. It brought her family closer together.

For the longest time I though maybe I made that happen, but I don't think I did, I think she needed to learn that lesson, and it was a hard lesson to learn. I had very violent, vengeful fantasies towards her, but I didn't and wouldn't act on them. I actually called her to say how sorry I was that it happened when I found out. I was genuinely saddened and all thoughts of vengeance just were gone. Their whole world had been irrevocably altered in a moment.

Things have a way of working themselves out, which I can't really explain. You can feel the desire for revenge, without acting on it.

[hamix]

Originally Posted by Now123

Because that is a deuchy thing to do, and nobody wants to help deuchebags.

Morality is anything one makes it, this is a patent fact of the human condition.

[hamix]

Originally Posted by Agota

I really suggest you to pay attention to what Vince is saying.

The problem with dark magic is that it eventually hits the person who is using it.

Don't play with fire, because once you notice that you're the one who's burning, it might be too late to stop.

Does dark magic exist?

[greatmind]

Hi TS,
I know at times it is unbearable but using LOA for revenge will reserve your seat in hell. And as one of the members said we attract what we focus on. When you'll try to materialize this you'll be focusing on bad things and ultimately you'll end up attracting those things in your life as well. I'm saying this because of personal experience. I wanted to avenge for something and I was constantly focusing on bad of that person but it made me feel like somebody is trying to hit me. Actually those were my own thoughts. I must tell you that I even got signals from the universe/higher intelligence that I'm doing something wrong. So I left that revenge part and asked universe to make me radiate love and forgiveness for that person though it was very difficult for me as well. Result today we are very good friends.
So better focus on your own good instead of using loa for harming others.

I have one suggestion for you. Ask the higher intelligence to radiate forgiveness for those people and also ask the higher intelligence to make them realize their mistakes. This way they'll realize their mistakes and may even apologize. And that will be the win-win situation for all.

And if I talk about my nature no injustice is so big that it can't be forgiven if the doer asks for forgiveness genuinely by realizing his or her mistake.
Hope this helps. Good luck.

[hamix]

Originally Posted by Merr

We've all gone through periods where we've sought vengeance. Is what you really want a broken leg for this person or do you just want justice? The issue here is that this act of vengeance is not specific enough in terms of what you want and I don't think it actually is what you want or even need to be happy.

Yes, it is what I want.