the law of attraction doesn't work in these situations :/

[raineydaze]

For example, i have heard of people winning the lottery and spending it all on stuff, and then becoming as poor as they were before. surely this defies law of attraction, as when they win the lottery,they will be in the mindstate of being rich, which, according to the law of attraction, should bring more wealth to them? so it makes no sense that they would lose all their money and become poor again. does this make sense?

also, i was wondering about relationships, when you first get into one everything is great, so this is what you will be thinking. so how come most relationships end? i mean surely if you are constantly thinking something is great then according to loa then everything should carry on being great??
id just like opinions cus this confuses me.

[pyrogen]

Because it does not work the way that many people think it works.

"Manifesting money" is only a very small part. Manifesting prosperity is very different. If a person started off with a poverty mentality, then they'll still be poor regardless of how much money they have, and they'll often spend all the money the moment they have it. This is part of scarcity thinking; I've been cash-poor at certain times in my life and there was the tendency to think that you'd better go out and have a shopping spree *now* because you might not see that money in one place again.

Things like money and relationships still have a learning curve.

I look back and realize that my broken relationship that I ended two years ago, was part of my attempt to manifest relationships before it started... because I could not have a happy relationship without the things I learned in that relationship.

"Manifesting" isn't just a means to an end, it's a whole path and life orientation, and if a person doesn't grasp that, they'll be inclined to lose any wins they make. It also means that you are getting the lessons so that you can achieve those things more easily. It doesn't necessarily mean that things fall out of the sky.

[desertrat]

As I see it all or most of us have a store house of repressed crap . Fears , beliefs , stuff from past lives . Lets say in some past lives you were afraid of magic or witch craft , some part of your subconscious sees l.o.a. as witch craft . Or in a past life you were a pesent and would be killed if cought with any thing of value. On a subconscious leavel these take effect and block any thing you try to do . The key is to reslove this stuff first . desert rat

[Fred Tracy]

Yeah, you're right OP.

I tend to think of the law of attraction as an extra kind of mechanism that guides things. If you think happy thoughts, The frequency of your thoughts tend to align your reality with things that have a similar vibration. But you can still encounter sadness.

Likewise, a person with a poverty mentality may win the lottery. Like you mentioned, they will soon again be poor. And a person who doesn't have the proper interpersonal skills to select, attract, and keep a proper mate will once again be single.

Then again, maybe your post is evidence that the law of attraction DOES work. Every single time. Much to our dismay.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by raineydaze

For example, i have heard of people winning the lottery and spending it all on stuff, and then becoming as poor as they were before. surely this defies law of attraction, as when they win the lottery,they will be in the mindstate of being rich, which, according to the law of attraction, should bring more wealth to them? so it makes no sense that they would lose all their money and become poor again. does this make sense?

It's is possible in one moment to have an optimistic abundance mindset, and then, in the next think thoughts that contradict it. Happens all the time. Even if you are the richest person in the world, you can still have negative mindsets like depression and anxiety. No one is immune from the temptation to focus on lack. In situations where people are not consistently vibrating in a place of abundance but manage to temporarily line up their energy, they might experience a large lump sum type situation such as winning the lottery. But because that isn't their practiced pattern of vibration or identity, they can't hold onto it for very long. It eventually vibrates right on out of their experience.

Originally Posted by raineydaze

also, i was wondering about relationships, when you first get into one everything is great, so this is what you will be thinking. so how come most relationships end? i mean surely if you are constantly thinking something is great then according to loa then everything should carry on being great??
id just like opinions cus this confuses me.

Again, with the relationships, it starts out with something setting you off. Doesn't matter what it is. Could be anything. Maybe someone pissed in your wheaties , or your cat got ran over, or you got cut off in traffic. Who knows. You begin to energetically align with an inharmonious vibration, this causes law of attraction to bring things to your attention that are the opposite of what you want. You start noting aspects of your partner you don't particularly like. Like maybe they chew with their mouth open, or are sometimes impolite, or maybe they never clean up after themselves. All sorts of things will come up, and then they get focused on, which just causes more things like them to keep surfacing in your experience. If you didn't get obsessed with these issues and instead turned your attention more towards the qualities you DID like, the relationship could be fine. The negative manifestations would dissipate after awhile. But let's say you didn't. Many people fall into a downward spiral of focusing on these qualities that aren't desired in their mate, which, of course, causes more of them to show up in their experience.

Before you know it, you are standing in front of a mirror in the dead of night practicing your alibi for when the cops show up and ask you how your partner got strangled to death .

[MagicalRealist]

Originally Posted by raineydaze

For example, i have heard of people winning the lottery and spending it all on stuff, and then becoming as poor as they were before. surely this defies law of attraction, as when they win the lottery,they will be in the mindstate of being rich, which, according to the law of attraction, should bring more wealth to them? so it makes no sense that they would lose all their money and become poor again.

Actually, it makes perfect sense.

Most people who dream of winning the lottery and put a lot of emotional energy into it, don't believe they can get rich any other way. They have no faith in themselves as creators of wealth. They're out of alignment with prosperity and the flow of abundance, so they see winning the lottery as their only means to get it.

So sure, they might win a jackpot--but because they aren't aligned with such a powerful flow of money and are unprepared to handle it, out it flows again. When you're tuned in to struggling on $30,000/year, suddenly receiving $30million is overwhelming--it's like holding out your cup, only to have it filled with a fire hose. You can only hold what will fit in your cup, and the rest will run off (assuming the blast doesn't destroy your cup).

Another thing I've observed among many of the lottery-obsessed people I've known is that they want to have millions of dollars--but they still want to be a "regular guy." In order to get into the mindset that would allow them to make millions of dollars on their own, or even to manage millions of dollars in lottery winnings successfully, they would have to change in some deep and significant ways.

And those changes will make them into someone different--someone who is possibly out of tune with their family, their friends, their community. Maybe they would be seen as a snob, or selfish, or betraying their roots, or getting a big head and thinking themselves better than everyone else.

They have lots of negative concepts of what it entails to become rich, and what it means to be rich-but they still want the money. So receiving it through a stroke of luck that anyone could have allows them to get rich while still being "normal," without having to change themselves to get it. They're millionaires now, but they aren't to blame for it; they just "got lucky," and so could anyone else. They aren't like those snooty, out-of-touch rich people who made or inherited their millions--they're just like anyone else! And in time, when the money runs out because they don't know how to manage it, they're right.

Wanting to win the lottery is an intention. So is wanting to remain a "regular guy," the same humble person you are right now. And when these intentions come together? Yeah, you might win the lottery, but before long you'll also manifest being a "regular guy" again.

also, i was wondering about relationships, when you first get into one everything is great, so this is what you will be thinking. so how come most relationships end? i mean surely if you are constantly thinking something is great then according to loa then everything should carry on being great??

Here's the thing: simply thinking a new relationship is great isn't enough. You have to believe that having a great relationship is absolutely possible for you. So if you're still carrying around a lot of old doubts, fears, and insecurities about relationships, about your own desirability and worthiness, and about "what men/women are really like," those are going to manifest. You'll attract partners who will reflect those beliefs, and the relationships will proceed accordingly.

The reason most people who try I-M don't get what they say they want is because they're still running a lot of old, negative scripts without being aware of it. Those subconscious beliefs continue to manifest, and in order to manifest something different you have to dig them out, hold them up to the light, and consciously replace them with beliefs that are in alignment with what you want.