Zero Limits

[pianoperformer]

Has anyone read the book Zero Limits by Joe Vitale and Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len?

It's based on the method of Ho'oponopono, which I know was pretty big around here a while back, but this book makes it a lot clearer for me.

What's interesting is that Joe Vitale is pretty big into intention manifestation, being part of The Secret, but yet he says that this concept of zero state is more powerful even than setting intentions. A powerful quote from the book is this:

When you come from the zero state where there are zero limits, you don't need intentions. You simply receive and act, and miracles happen.

This reflects my experience. Sometimes I've just been hit by inspiration, and the results from that have been much greater than when I tried to intend something on my own and go through with it. The latter feels like fighting against the current, while the former is going with the current, or more like totally getting out of the river.

In our regular state, our mind can only conceive of so many things, so intentions are limited. In zero state, it is limitless because mind has nothing to do with it. We just receive, and things happen seemingly on their own.

I'm only about a third of the way through the book, but it's really been impactful so far so wanted to mention it here.

[Strem2]

Hi,

Yes I read this book also, years ago and have been using Ho'oponopono since then. It's been an easy and powerful clearing method and works great on tantruming children....

[Criseyde]

I've read it. BUT... practicing ho'oponopono tends to make my life hang a sharp left into "help, everything sucks!" and I don't seem to be able to help anyone else with it either. I think I must be doing it wrong.

And this "zero state" sounds cool, and Richard Bartlett talks about it too, and I sort of suspect that this is also Abraham's Vortex concept, but I haven't found it yet.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by Criseyde

I've read it. BUT... practicing ho'oponopono tends to make my life hang a sharp left into "help, everything sucks!" and I don't seem to be able to help anyone else with it either. I think I must be doing it wrong.

Do you think it is because of the memories being cleaned out that might cause havoc for a time? Have you tried to persist through it?

[Criseyde]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Do you think it is because of the memories being cleaned out that might cause havoc for a time? Have you tried to persist through it?

Yes, I thought of that, but I don't really think that's what's going on. I don't really believe that I have tons of buried gunk that needs to be cleaned out chaotically -- even if I do have buried gunk, I think it can be released without all that. I think that the problem is a lot simpler: when I do ho'oponopono, I get very focused on whatever it is that I'm trying to "clean," and that causes it to expand in my experience. Obviously, not everybody does this, because lots of people have good success, but it is something to watch for.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by Criseyde

Yes, I thought of that, but I don't really think that's what's going on. I don't really believe that I have tons of buried gunk that needs to be cleaned out chaotically -- even if I do have buried gunk, I think it can be released without all that. I think that the problem is a lot simpler: when I do ho'oponopono, I get very focused on whatever it is that I'm trying to "clean," and that causes it to expand in my experience. Obviously, not everybody does this, because lots of people have good success, but it is something to watch for.

Yeah that would probably do it.

What I do is ask what within myself is creating the problem. That's the last I really think of the issue. I just send love to myself and the part of myself that is causing that problem.

It's not been long enough for me to say much of anything, but it's been giving me mostly peace so far.

[ssandra]

I read it and I like it, although I felt there was a LOT of fluff in the book as well.

It works best for me however if I allow myself to visualize at the same time as I clean. A picture comes up, which can be anything, that represents the thing I am cleaning up.

As I am cleaning, the object in my visualization cleans. Usually it becomes something that gives light (light blue, giving light, feels very clean). Once it is completely light, I know it is clean, and I feel calmer about it.

[Criseyde]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Yeah that would probably do it.

What I do is ask what within myself is creating the problem. That's the last I really think of the issue. I just send love to myself and the part of myself that is causing that problem.

It's not been long enough for me to say much of anything, but it's been giving me mostly peace so far.

I think that's a really good way to go about things. I saw you post it in another thread, and I was like, "man, I need to try that!" Just let it goooo...

Glad it's working out for you.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by ssandra

I read it and I like it, although I felt there was a LOT of fluff in the book as well.

I saw that a lot of reviews were critical on this point, and said the book didn't really contain anything new or significant.

I don't know why, but anytime I read a book with negative reviews, I still like it. I guess there was some fluff, but I thought it was really good, and I loved all of the personal stories. Several of the quotes were profound enough for me to write down, like the one I quoted in my OP.

Originally Posted by ssandra

It works best for me however if I allow myself to visualize at the same time as I clean. A picture comes up, which can be anything, that represents the thing I am cleaning up.

As I am cleaning, the object in my visualization cleans. Usually it becomes something that gives light (light blue, giving light, feels very clean). Once it is completely light, I know it is clean, and I feel calmer about it.

That sounds cool.

[Bluth]

So how does it work in terms of accomplishing a goal?

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by Bluth

So how does it work in terms of accomplishing a goal?

Keep in mind that this is based off of two days of reading, so my understanding may not be perfect.

But it is about cleansing yourself and others, not necessarily about reaching a goal, though that might be the catalyst that makes you look within.

So the question to begin with is, "What within me is creating this resistance against my goal?"

Then do Ho'oponopono on that. Keep doing it. It might not resolve right away, but it will.

Now is the important part. Don't let your logical mind take over, because you will completely miss the opportunities that are opening up for you.

You will receive an inspiration—an idea that seemingly came out of nowhere. This inspiration will usually be related to the goal that you want to accomplish, but it may be an entirely different way than you expect.

The thing is to not give God choices. Do not say that it must happen either this way or that way, because God could come up with a completely new way that is far superior to anything you could think of.

So run with this inspiration, put in the work, and you'll be moving towards your goal.

Once this practice becomes a regular part of your life, so will inspiration regularly arise in your consciousness, and you won't have to wonder what you should be doing next. It will just become obvious, and all of the beautiful details will magically fall into place as if an architect had just sent you a blueprint.

[Bluth]

I see, thanks very much......


and its: I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you?

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by Bluth

I see, thanks very much......


and its: I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you?

yes that's right.

[Bluth]

Awesome, and when you ask the question about whats holding you back, are you supposed to figure out the answer, or just go through the Ho'oponopono process and let that do what it does?

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by Bluth

Awesome, and when you ask the question about whats holding you back, are you supposed to figure out the answer, or just go through the Ho'oponopono process and let that do what it does?

You don't necessarily need to get an answer. God has the answer. It is just to help you to realize that you have 100% responsibility, and to make you focus inward.

Though in one of the practices in my book, I recommend looking at the issues in your life and meditating on how this reflects something within your own consciousness. But this is in order to prove the premise that the world really is a reflection of the self.

[Bluth]

Great, thanks for the help.

[pianoperformer]

I finished the book last night. It was so good, I am tempted to reread it. Christine seems interested in reading it so I may reread it with her.

I would like to discuss my experiences in this thread as they come.

Ho'oponopono has been a constant part of my inner dialogue for a few days now. Overall I feel a much greater sense of peace that is harder to shake. It still is shaken from time to time, but not as often, and I return to peace more quickly.

It also gives me greater empathy. Even if I'm upset at something another person has done, I can better see what prompted that action and understand their own perspective.

I'm able to observe when a thought imbued with stress, anxiety, anger, etc, begins to arise, and can "clean" on that thought so that the emotion is taken out of it.

I've been doing this method to resolve my resistance against prosperity and wealth. My idea is that if money is not flowing into my life, then I must have some resistance in me against it.

I feel that I am being tested. It seems that I have much less money this month than I thought, probably due to some incorrect calculations on my part, which is very unusual for me. But I really don't feel bothered by it. I have the resources to get out of the situation if nothing else manifests (e.g., stocks I can sell), but I am waiting to see what happens. In the meantime, I trust in God/the Divine, and continue to do the method.

But internally, I can tell that my attitude about money is gradually changing.

I've had positive effects using this for healing, so far for relatively minor things. The other day, Christine had a pretty bad headache. I wanted to see if i could clean on that, and not even touch her head to do healing as I normally would. A minute or two later it was gone.
Same thing yesterday with part of her back that was really bothering her, but this time I did touch, but did the exact same thing as before. About 5-10 seconds later it was better.

It's also helped me not to feel as threatened when someone disagrees with me. Usually I do feel threatened if my point of view is challenged, such as if a reply to a post I made is critical of what I said. However, now I evaluate if there are any negative emotions in me related to the reply, and clean on that before I reply back, so that i can come from a place of peace rather than anger.

Along with all of this, I've been reading Loving What Is by Byron Katie, and the ideas are similar; e.g., it is only my own thoughts about a situation that are creating suffering for me.

So I think it's been a success so far. I will continue to update.

[pianoperformer]

Today I was angry because someone I know backed out on something they said they would do.

I cleaned on it, which did help. The thing that really helped though was The Work.

It only took one sentence:

I am angry at John because he always backs out on his word.

How do I react when I believe that thought? Betrayed, angry myself, disappointed.
Who would I be if I didn't believe that thought? I wouldn't care.

But the biggest thing was the turn-around:

I am angry with myself because I always back out on my word.

I am pretty bad with that, as a matter of fact. So that shut me up pretty well, because I know I appreciate when other people understand me when something changes and I can't do something I said I would.

As far as wealth, there might be something promising. I got a PM today about someone interested in healing, so I am hoping that pans out. Oh, and I talked to a guy today about a project probably for about $700. So I guess it is starting to work. This project seems to be all but set.

[pianoperformer]

Just did a healing session for someone in person today. It went about two hours, but it went really well and I think he had some major realizations.

I'm still feeling very peaceful altogether. I've been continuing to examine my own beliefs and how they create problems in the world.

[pianoperformer]

I've been noticing that whenever I get caught in a negative state, then everything within and without me gets progressively negative until I can get out of it. It is like a net that just keeps drawing me in. I'm still not the best at getting out of the net.

[cacheborn]

I have been practicing Ho'oponopono for over a year now. The wonderful experiences I have had are too many. A somewhat sketchy account is here.

Journaling about hoponopono/SR

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

I have been practicing Ho'oponopono for over a year now. The wonderful experiences I have had are too many. A somewhat sketchy account is here.

Journaling about hoponopono/SR

That's great, thanks. How would you say it has changed you in that year?

I know this is a thread specifically on the book, Zero Limits, and the method of Ho'oponopono, but I have been tying Loving What Is into this and they really fit together.

I love how she (the author) says that all we have to do is to follow our passion. The decisions will make themselves, and not a single second before it is their time to be decided. It is impersonal; we do not think, but we are thought. There's no need to stress.

It's so interesting, yet frightening, to see the assumptions that we have that cause us endless grief. "This person shouldn't be like this," but they are.

I also love her hands-off approach with children. That is, it seems that she doesn't really believe in punishment, because it is our own problem. That is a basic belief that I have—that children know basically what is right and wrong and just need some gentle guidance.

For instance, there was a four-year-old boy who was beating up on his little baby sister. Now with most children, they'd be punished. "You don't hit your sister," followed by some kind of timeout. However, this boy's parents took him to her, she did The Work with him, and with the parents. He said he was angry at his sister because she wouldn't play ball with him. The parents realized that when the mother was pregnant, they told the boy that he would have a playmate to do things with him and to play ball. So, he expected the baby to play ball, and she obviously couldn't. Once he realized that his sister couldn't play ball yet, he stopped his behavior.

[pianoperformer]

I realized that we don't need anything to be happy. Happiness is a choice in every moment. It's one of those things you don't really understand fully until you just, understand it.

I don't have to worry whether I'm going to be happy in the next moment. I can just be happy now, or not. If I'm not, then I can figure out why that is. It's very freeing.

Last night, Christine and I had a bit of an argument. I felt very threatened by her delivery, because she is very direct. So I separated myself for a minute, and did The Work. I wrote:

I am angry at Christine because she is always rash.
I am angry at Christine because she refuses to accept responsibility for her actions.

I asked the four questions of course. The turnaround is generally where i get the most insight, and frees me to see the possibility of not holding those beliefs. So the turnaround for the first one was:

I am angry with myself because I am always rash with Christine.

It was hard to say, but it was true. And the second was worse:

I am angry with myself because i never take responsibility.

That destroyed the thought in my mind, or at least stripped it of its emotionality, and I was able to go and apologize. It was amazing how quickly that turned around, and it felt so good not to have to think those thoughts.

[CoolBee]

I liked Zero Limits basically, but I admit when I lend it to people, I say 'try and ignore the marketing puff' because it seemed to me to be riddled with sales pitches.

That said, I discovered ho'oponopono via this forum just after Cacheborn and SSandra I think! September 2010. And in November 2010 by remarkable coincidence, Mabel Katz- a great exponent - was doing her first and only 2 day workshop in the UK one weekend before my NLP Practitioner Assessment and a planned (but not yet booked!) trip to the UK by me! So I simply shifted my planned dates by 1 week to get both in. (And for information, Mabel says all you have to say is "Thank You!")

It's been an interesting journey - is it coincidence that in the 12 months since discovering it and 'being responsible for everything in my life' - we have had umpteen revolutions in my neck of the woods, I discovered the secret to my weight loss and am now 24kg lighter than in April. If someone upsets me in someway, I rarely get angry or upset because I think 'I created this somehow, I need to clean!" The things that have happened lead me to feel that some seriously deep-level cleaning has gone on!

Personally, I have found genuine actual physical cleaning is the best way for me to do it! I did go through some tense time 'cleaning' during the Egyptian revolution as you might imagine if you feel someway responsible in some way you don't understand!

I think the aspect I found hardest was getting over the need to try and identify what exactly I was 'cleaning' - what the pattern repeating was and what it might represent and so on. This took a long long time, and I'm not totally there yet.

[pianoperformer]

Thank you for sharing, CoolBee. I'm really interested to know how it works in my life. So far so good, though.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

That's great, thanks. How would you say it has changed you in that year?

There are so many things that it's difficult to list them. My whole approach of looking at things has changed and consequently, the things themselves have changed. As Wayne Dyer says, "If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." I am experiencing exactly that.

Whenever I come across anything that's not in harmony, I ask myself, what in me caused that and clean on it. It's just amazing how things change when you keep on doing that. I clean intentions, inanimate objects, news items, opinions, everything.

Last night, I specifically made a list of incidents in my past life that were humiliating and had caused a lot of emotional hurt. Than I cleaned on each one, and hugged the person who had caused the incidence. The amount of joy I felt was unbelievable. I realized that I was keeping these memories in my brain and they were sucking valuable energy. By releasing them that energy was free. I am positive that if someone would actually monitor brain activities while the subject is doing Ho'oponopono, they would see some major changes.

I have never tried Loving What Is, looks interesting.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by CoolBee

(And for information, Mabel says all you have to say is "Thank You!")

If someone upsets me in someway, I rarely get angry or upset because I think 'I created this somehow, I need to clean!" The things that have happened lead me to feel that some seriously deep-level cleaning has gone on!

Personally, I have found genuine actual physical cleaning is the best way for me to do it! I did go through some tense time 'cleaning' during the Egyptian revolution as you might imagine if you feel someway responsible in some way you don't understand!

I think the aspect I found hardest was getting over the need to try and identify what exactly I was 'cleaning' - what the pattern repeating was and what it might represent and so on. This took a long long time, and I'm not totally there yet.

Yes, I have heard Dr Hew Len also say that actual words are not that important.

I have also found that as I keep on cleaning, the cleaning also manifests in other areas of my life. And while doing actual cleaning, I am also cleaning inside, it sort of jells together.

About what I am cleaning - I have found that as I clean on something or someone specific, a totally unrelated memory would show up. I assume that they are related and I clean on that one as well.

[Debo]

Hi everyone

I have just ordered this book from my library, I read Joes book `The key`, and I found it to be a good read, but a tad too advertising also, but you can over look that if you choose.

Finding the cleansing quite effective

Debo

[Sbonn]

Hi, had a desire to pop in here and share that I love ho'oponopono.

Recently coming into it (about 2 months now) I have actually had some nice pleasant and big positive shifts in the relationship with my boyfriend. Last year the relationship had been not doing so well, I myself was in a fairly deep depression. There were many steps in healing for me between last year and when I found ho'oponopono.

My first validation was in this relationship when I took time one evening and cleaned on my ex-husband, and then the people I had been in relationship with since the marriage ended to my current guy. This allowed for major release and healing of some deep down hurts as I took responsibility and just cleaned and cleared.

Reflected in dreams..

In the past when my ex appeared in my dreams I was very very aggressive and angry towards him. After I did the cleaning and clearing I had a dream shortly after in which I took note of a major shift when he appeared that I was actually friendly and we talked the feelings I had were pure well wishes for him. I can say now that I have not had him appear in a dream since.

One time while talking on the phone with the person I work with and he brought up an issue with a client where I had forgotten to do something and he asked "what do we do about this?" I took responsibility and then said "I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you!" and he got quiet (I think he was a bit stunned) and a solution popped immediately into my mind. I told him my idea, he liked it and the client was happy too.

I now clean and clear, most times it is on auto pilot but I do take time at night before falling asleep to clean and clear on specific issues, people and things.

One validation I appreciated when I read Zero Limits was that they put forth the idea that inanimate objects have feelings.. I have been known throughout my life to imbue objects with a personality and feelings.

That was my little bit to share but, I am so thankful and happy to have found Ho'oponopono via this forum. So Please allow me to say thank you, I love you

BIG HUGS
Sbonn

[pianoperformer]

Last night, I had a nightmare for the first time in I don't know how long. I'm assuming it could be just the release of painful and negative energy from the subconscious, which would be being released through Ho'oponopono. I don't remember what the dream was about, unfortunately.

Yesterday was great, though. My mother-in-law and a nun that Christine is really good friends with came in yesterday to visit. I do not usually get along with my mother-in-law at all, but that's a very long story. A lot of times I feel like my respect and personal power is stripped around her.

But this time, I honestly didn't care what she thought. I was able to be honest and be truly myself. We went out to dinner, and it was great. Christine said later that I was really outgoing, which is not normal for me. That just proves for me that I was just relaxed and enjoying myself without any concerns. That's such a huge improvement for me. So I think yesterday was a big testament to how these practices are helping me.

If you really look at it, how does this happen? I never felt respected by her because I never respected myself. Now I finally do. I finally feel like an equal, not a 23-year-old child trying to make it in the world, and that's how I felt around her a lot.

In general my social life has been on the rise. A friend has asked us just to go hang out somewhere and enjoy a snack, for the last two days. A guy who I hadn't seen for two years or so is coming around more now so we are becoming better friends. Someone randomly wanted to come meet me yesterday because we have a common friend, but unfortunately that fell through.

I just think I feel more confident for the first time in my life, at least for a long time.

When you realize you really only have to worry about yourself and what kind of life you are creating, and not about anyone else in the least, it is so freeing. My mother called yesterday saying she had gone out to lunch with her ex-boyfriend. I'd usually be really upset, because this guy was so controlling and possessive, though he was really great for a while. She asked me what I thought, and I told her honestly that I thought it wasn't a good idea to get too involved with him because of what happened before, but it was her life, and I really meant it. She said, very sincerely, "Wow, you're the most uncritical, non-judgmental person I know." I had simply told her what I thought, but said she was free to do what she wanted and I wouldn't stop her.

And if they do get together, and he is controlling? Then somehow I'm creating that, and I just keep cleaning on it. And if it bothers me a lot, I just do The Work on it and see how something in me is really the source of what is bothering me. Reflect it back on myself and see how I might be possessive and controlling.

But maybe it won't happen. When it happened before, I really was more controlling. Not necessarily to the degree that he was, but I felt like I didn't have an identity without Christine and wanted to be with her all the time, lol. So maybe it was just a reflection to show me what I was doing. I am not like that at all now.

So that's how Ho'oponopono and The Work are changing my life. It's working from the inside out, and my world is changing as a result. And hey, this is only the first week of it. Imagine what might be happening in a month!

I will continue to update.