Zero Limits

[ChildOfNone]

Piano Performer - you could be writing for me. I do the exact same things about skipping emails because of what they MIGHT contain. I do this with mail and phone messages and whatever comes my way.

I have gained so much using the four lines from ho'oponopono but the way you describe the benefits of The Work makes it clear to me that I would benefit from that as well.

Thank you for putting in the detail of your experience. It really connected for me.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

Piano Performer - you could be writing for me. I do the exact same things about skipping emails because of what they MIGHT contain. I do this with mail and phone messages and whatever comes my way.

Lol, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I've had Christine read emails before me in the past just to tell me how bad it is.

It's never as bad as I think it might be, though.

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

I have gained so much using the four lines from ho'oponopono but the way you describe the benefits of The Work makes it clear to me that I would benefit from that as well.

Yeah I think you would. Let me know if you want me to show you how it works. It's really easy, though it takes a lot of courage to face yourself so boldly. I've been using it in my healing sessions now, along with the behind-the-scenes healing, and it's had great results.

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

Thank you for putting in the detail of your experience. It really connected for me.

No problem; I'm glad it helped.

[ChildOfNone]

I would absolutely like for you to show me how it works.

Based on the example you provide in this thread I did some of that this morning. My anxiety is high because of a hearing I am head to right now and because of something going on in my child's life. The origins of this "match" is in my childhood. When I used questions like you asked I found at the heart of it to be my own fear that I deserved rejection and shaming. I have been repeating the four phrases of ho'oponopono as I acknowledged that fear.

Thanks so much for your help.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

I would absolutely like for you to show me how it works.

Based on the example you provide in this thread I did some of that this morning. My anxiety is high because of a hearing I am head to right now and because of something going on in my child's life. The origins of this "match" is in my childhood. When I used questions like you asked I found at the heart of it to be my own fear that I deserved rejection and shaming. I have been repeating the four phrases of ho'oponopono as I acknowledged that fear.

Thanks so much for your help.

Since you've asked publicly, I'm assuming you don't mind me going through the process for you publicly. Tell me if you prefer otherwise.

I'll show you the process, but can also walk you through it if you like.

You start by thinking of a person, situation, event that is causing negative emotions in you, such as anger, confusion, disappointment, etc. The object of this could even be yourself, though it's best to look outward to begin the process, since we are more readily to judge others than ourselves.

Byron Katie calls it the "Judge Your Neighbor" worksheet, and it is a series of six questions. Her instructions are as follows:

Think of a recurring stressful situation, a situation that is reliably stressful even though it may have happened only once and recurs only in your mind. Before answering each of the questions below, allow yourself to mentally revisit the time and place of the stressful occurrence. Don’t be polite, kind, or wise.

So, with the situation, person, etc, in mind, the questions are these:

1. In this situation, time, and location, who angers, confuses, or disappoints you, and why?

I am _____(emotion) at _____(name) because _____.

2. In this situation, how do you want them to change? What do you want them to do?

I want _____(name) to _____.

3. In this situation, what advice would you offer to them?

_____(name) should/shouldn't _____.

4. In order for you to be happy in this situation, what do you need them to think, say, feel, or do?

I need _____(name) to _____.

5. What do you think of them in this situation? Make a list.

_____(name) is _____.

6. What is it in or about this situation that you don’t ever want to experience again?

I don't ever want _____.

Source: http://thework.com/downloads/workshe..._Worksheet.pdf

Note that you can add as many of the statements in each question as necessary. You could have five statements in question 1 if there are five ways of describing how this person or situation causes you stress.

I have this worksheet as the third step of my healing intake form that I showed you. It allows people to add situations, fill in the questions, etc. I refer to it during the healing session and help them to work through some of the issues. This approach has been really successful so far.

The four questions you ask for each statement are:

1. Is it true?
2. Can you absolutely know that it is true?
3. How do you react when you believe that thought?
4. Who would you be without this belief?

Then the most powerful part of the process is the turnarounds.

You turn it around to the self, to the other, and to the opposite.

To the self means replacing the name of the other person with "me" or "myself."

To the other means swapping "I" and the name of the person, so that you are doing the action to the person, not them to you.

The third turnaround is to the opposite, so that if you say "Bob doesn't respect me," you change it to "Bob does respect me."

Not all of these turnarounds are always true, so don't be religious about them. They are just something to get you thinking about how you created this situation in your life. I find that the first one generally is true, though.

If you want to walk through the process, either here or in e-mail, that would be good, but is up to you. Just let me know some of your answers to those statements and we can work from there.

I don't even always fill out all of the statements. Yesterday, I only made two statements from question 1. It is still really helpful. If I am really stressed/angry, I fill out more of them until I've gotten everything out.

[ChildOfNone]

I'll all for public because there is a possibility that what is done here may be helpful to another. What could be more valuable?

1. In this situation, time, and location, who angers, confuses, or disappoints you, and why?

I am _____(emotion) at _____(name) because _____.

2. In this situation, how do you want them to change? What do you want them to do?

I want _____(name) to _____.

3. In this situation, what advice would you offer to them?

_____(name) should/shouldn't _____.

4. In order for you to be happy in this situation, what do you need them to think, say, feel, or do?

I need _____(name) to _____.

5. What do you think of them in this situation? Make a list.

_____(name) is _____.

6. What is it in or about this situation that you don’t ever want to experience again?

I don't ever want _____.

I know what I want to work on. And I know that there are a number of issues that stand on top of this, that this is the foundation of. Gary Craig who created EFT wrote about "collapsing the table" which I understood to be something like working on a foundational issue is like chopping off a table leg in that all that is supported by it collapses as well. I hope this is true in my experience here. That would be very efficient.

I am going to work on these 6 questions as time and emotional stamina permit.

1. I am hurt and shamed by my father because he rejected me and used my love for him to manipulate me.

2. I want my father to acknowledge what he did and to regret it.

3. You should love your daughter and be honest with her. you should not trick and deceived her and belittle her.

4. You should see how valuable my love for you is and how much I long to please you and be in a loving, exchanging relationship with you.

5. You are missing out on all that is the most valuable.
(more to be added)

6. I don't ever want to experience again opening my heart, becoming most vulnerable, placing my hopes and beliefs and dependency on you or anyone and receiving in return deception and manipulation and rejection.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

I'll all for public because there is a possibility that what is done here may be helpful to another. What could be more valuable?

Sounds perfect.

Then just choose a person or situation, answer some or all of those questions, and we can go from there. I am excited to see it work.

I am amazed every time I use this for someone. It always has such an impact on them, even though it is just a few simple questions and reversed statements. But every . single . time, it helps.

Edit: I just wanted to add that if you prefer to work through it verbally, we can always speak on the phone and report the results back here. I am concerned about trying to do The Work over such a slow medium as this. I am really saying very little, and you are doing most of the talking and having the realizations, but I don't know if it will be as effective if it is disconnected over many posts over many hours or days.

I leave the decision up to you. I have a prayer line (see signature) that could be used if necessary.

[pianoperformer]

This is related to my healing intension, so I want to share it here.

I just finished the fifth chapter of my book the other day. I have several people reviewing it for me so I can get many different perspectives on the material.

Well, one person replied. She had been having some encounters with Jesus to heal her relationship with a certain person in her life. It coincided with the course as well.

She told me that Jesus had not been saying anything about healing the other person directly, but only about healing more things in herself. She seemed to be confused about this, since she wanted to heal the relationship with the other person.

It was such a synchronicity and validation for me. She had not yet read my fifth chapter, but it is all about how healing yourself is necessary if you want to heal anyone else. If you see something wrong in another person, it is really something reflected within yourself. So of course Jesus would be encouraging her to heal herself, not the other person.

It's not the first time someone's encounter with Jesus has validated the things I have been writing on in the book. But every time it happens, it is so amazing, and I know that I'm on the right track.

[pianoperformer]

I've started to do something recently where any time I eat, I love the food before I eat it. I got the idea from Dr. Len where he loved inanimate objects and it had beneficial results. It kind of reminds me of a blessing before eating, but it's intentionally loving the food.

One time I was eating breakfast. I did this to all my food, but forgot the sausage. Everything tasted great, but for some reason the sausage tasted awful. Christine said it was no different than usual, so who knows.

Another strange synchronicity. Yesterday I was thinking about how everything is really appearances. Then I thought, if this is true, then I should be able to see evidence of this.

So I went to bed. Every night, I listen to music, because it is soothing. As I was listening, the music just randomly skipped a beat for no reason.

Stranger though was what happened next. I have my iPhone set to shuffle songs so that I get a variety. It never, never, never repeats songs, unless the repeat function is on. But for no reason, it did repeat as I was listening to it last night. I thought perhaps I had repeat on, but then it moved onto the next song after that.

I know these are silly little things, but they are the little cracks in the dream you can see if you look carefully enough.

[pianoperformer]

This weekend, I am with the in-laws because they are throwing a second reception for us in Christine's home town.

I have a history of not getting along very well with them. There is huge culture clash, and there's just been a lot of frustration and anger there in the past.

So, what better way to put ho ʻ oponopono and The Work into practice than this?

I had some major realizations on the way back here. I realized that there is literally no way for my peace to be taken away other than if I allow it. I am the only one in control of whether I am at peace or not.

So, there is absolutely no way that I can have a bad weekend unless I allow it to be so. I can already know that no matter what happens, it will be an absolutely perfect weekend. What a way to go into it, right?

I also realized even more that everything that happens in my life are just thoughts in my head. As Dr. Len says, there is no "out there." There are just thoughts in my mind. And even "I" am just a thought. Thoughts are not personal. There is nothing and no one to be defensive over, and there is nothing and no one who can hurt another.

And tonight has been great. I've been cleaning, especially when a thought comes up that doesn't reflect the type of reality I want to reflect. So I clean that thought and I almost feel it float away harmlessly.

Even when Christine's father got frustrated at her foursome reason, it did not trigger my own emotions. I knew that it was just a thought, and there was no need to let it bother me.

There was one thing that triggered ego tonight, but I did The Work on it and it also floated away. I had brought some cake down that I had just baked recently to share with everyone. Plus we didn't want it just sitting for the weekend in the apartment. Anyway, Christine's sister finally tried it and said it was bland, but good. That comment kind of hurt me since I thought they were pretty good. So I did The Work on that, and it really helped.

It's amazing what kind of assumptions can be brought to light with a simple emotional hurt like this.

In regard to The Four Agreements, as recommended in this thread, I can see how this would have violated the second and third agreements (don't take it personally, and don't make assumptions). I took her comment personally, thinking I was somehow bad because of it. I made assumptions, thinking she shouldn't say that, she should like the cake, the cake shouldn't be bland, she'll think I'm bad at baking, etc. These were the assumptions that came to light through The Work.

Anyway, I fully expect the weekend to be wonderful. It's really been a growing experience for me.

[pianoperformer]

I'm at my mother's house now, before Christine and I return to our apartment tomorrow or Tuesday.

The weekend was beautiful. The reception was fun and everything was just great. And for possibly the first time, I actually had fun with her mother, and there was little to no worry or fear around it.

We had a hysterical moment: Christine's mother wanted to take a picture of Christine and me, but couldn't get her phone to work. So I lent her my iPhone to take the picture. The first few were successful, but then she accidentally enabled video mode instead of photo, and started recording the conversation. Everyone bust out laughing over it, and I showed her how to get back to photo mode. It was a simple little thing, but I was just able to be naturally myself and have a great time around the family.

The one thing I was scared about was the matter of church. Christine's family is devoutly Catholic, and of course go to church every single Sunday. I was worried about their reaction if I suggested I didn't want to go. I would go if I had to, but wanted to at least ask. So I did a lot, a lot of cleaning on the matter yesterday evening, and I felt somewhat at peace.

The moment came when everyone was discussing who would go to Mass when. Christine's mother actually simply asked her if she was going to church. Christine said she would, just to see the family again. They were going at 9:30. Then I just said to Christine, "Yeah, I'm going to sleep in," and it was no problem. It was a complete non-issue.

So that was a real proof of the power of ho ʻ oponopono and The Work.

I think it served as an anchor for Christine as well. There were a few times where she got a little agitated, and I was calm enough that it helped her to calm down as well, so that was great.

The thing I'm noticing in general is that when someone is venting about their self-created dream, which they don't realize is self-created, I'm just completely unable to respond. What do you say in response to a dream that you don't believe in, and realize they don't have to believe in, either? So I just listen and try not to have to respond. But it is an interesting new position.

For instance, something happened tonight between my mother, my teenage cousin, and Christine. Christine later asked me, after venting about what happened, "Did I do the right thing?" Well, there's really no answer to that. So I just said, "If you got the results you wanted, then you did the right thing."

[marinik]

Wow that is great! So happy for you! SPFMTYILY

[ChildOfNone]

PianoPerformer - your posts are truly inspirational. I am so looking forward to experiencing similar results. What a marvelous testimonial about your time with you in-laws.

Please say more about what you mean by:

when someone is venting about their self-created dream, which they don't realize is self-created, I'm just completely unable to respond.

Thanks

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

PianoPerformer - your posts are truly inspirational. I am so looking forward to experiencing similar results. What a marvelous testimonial about your time with you in-laws.

Thank you so much. It was really great.

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

Please say more about what you mean by:


Thanks

OK, what I mean about dream is when someone is caught up in a delusion—in a dramatic situation that just doesn't need to be there. In The Four Agreements, it is called a dream when anyone is stuck in "hell", where they can be hurt by others. It is just so obviously a horribly negative cycle that just drags you deeper into itself.

The thing with my cousin yesterday is a dream and examples of people being stuck in hell. It dragged about four people into this state and was obviously painful for all involved. However, no communication could be done because everyone has their own personal beliefs that keep them in that hell.

However, when it was all over, and my cousin left, I literally laughed. I couldn't help it; the whole thing was just humorous.

But then if someone says, "Did I do the right thing?" I don't have an answer. Only the dream discusses whether "I" did the right thing. If I see the whole thing as unnecessary, then it's hard to answer according to the rules and beliefs of the dream.

However, in the dream, there is cause and effect as one of many of the beliefs, so I can confidently say that if they were happy with the results, then they did the right thing. There are many other levels I could have answered on, but it seemed the best at the time.

[pianoperformer]

Prosperity Intention

I forgot to mention this. All of my cleaning on prosperity must have done something. We got much, much, much more for our reception than we could have ever expected. We got nearly $2,500 from the second reception! This is so wonderful for us.

Zero Limits Intention

I mentioned having the intention to get the Zero Limits Live videos sometime. I wanted to take what I learned in the book and go deeper with it, and it sounded like the perfect way to do that. Well, as a secondary result of the prosperity manifestation, I allowed myself to go ahead and get these videos as well. No regrets.

Also, Christine gets her massage chair she's been wanting, which is something she's been trying to manifest for as well. She does massage therapy for a lot of students here on campus, so she's been really wanting this after hers broke last semester.

It seemed OK to take a few hundred out of what we received and get the things we've really been wanting.

So I guess the cleaning is still doing wonders.

[pianoperformer]

I started the Zero Limits videos tonight, honestly because I couldn't wait any longer. There are eight videos, plus one containing testimonials. The first one was around an hour and a half.

The only downside really was that the quality isn't the greatest. The recording kept cutting out for a split second, and sometimes it caused me to miss something they were saying. But over all it didn't really affect the understanding of the information.

The video really did a lot for me though. Yes the book explained it, but it was just explained in a different way, and in a more interactive way, in the video. Dr. Len took a lot of questions from the audience, though he was usually very blunt with them. I enjoyed the questions because ti showed how it can be applied practically.

He basically said that anything you try to come up with in the mind is pointless; he called it trash, and some other more colorful terms as well. Concepts in the mind take you away from zero state. If you are in zero state, then you have no need to come up with concepts and to say anything.

He kept emphasizing that when we tried to figure out the process, it is just the mind trying to intellectualize it. He said you'll get stuck in that state if you don't let go of the questions and of the need to understand. Just clean; always clean.

The biggest breakthrough for me was when he talked about data. He said that anything that comes through is just data. We really don't know what anyone else is doing; we just know the data we are receiving in the mind. If we see someone as sick, that is data we are receiving that perceives them as sick, and so we get stuck in the data, and stuck in memories and programs. When we clean on that, let go of the data, and go back to zero, then we receive inspiration and are able to see things as God sees them.

One thing I noticed is that people seem to have powerful reactions to it. It threw me into a pretty profound experience, which I'll talk about in a moment. But for Christine, who was listening along with me, it brought up anger in her, though she couldn't understand why.

I tried to probe why she was angry. Nothing really came up, so I gave up, but was admittedly agitated and frustrated. I was fearful the introduction of that negative energy would cycle deeper as it usually does.

So I sat back and cleaned. I saw how I saw her reacting as mere data. There's no question of Christine; it's just all data, all concepts that fog the view of what's really going on. So I clean on those concepts.

Pretty soon, she just unexpectedly laid her head on me. I figured she was just trying to get closer, and it was fine since I wasn't feeling too agitated anymore after doing the cleaning.

But soon I realized she was crying. She was able to drop the defensiveness and anger and open to what was really going on. It was scary—these were completely new concepts, butt it was OK.

This transformation took literally about three or four minutes. No words were exchanged in the interim, as she was watching something on TV. So the transformation surprised me.

Now for my experience: As I was cleaning on that agitation I felt within me, and the anger I perceived within her, it obviously started to clear away. But as it cleared away, it seemed to do quite a bit more than that. The realization of everything just being concepts and data clicked into place, and everything disappeared. I disappeared, Christine disappeared, the world disappeared. It was still there but it was obviously transitory and dreamlike. The real Self was behind it, watching and loving.

I felt the power of Love overflow my entire body. I had quite a few experiences similar to this, though perhaps not as powerful, in the past, so I am very aware of the sensation. It went all the way into my head and penetrated the top of it, which has happened before as well. I was overwhelmed.

After that, the realization was firmly in place. I sat there for about ten minutes just reeling. The mind felt like it was collapsing with the overwhelming nature of the whole thing. It made perfect sense. The sensory impressions were concepts. The mind itself was a concept. The thoughts that arose in consciousness was a concept. The individuated self was a concept. All arising out of pure consciousness, but soon again passing away as they had come. There was no permanence about them, nor could they be really taken seriously.

So that's what's going on after the first video. I'm really looking forward for the next seven.

Cleaning is indeed the most important thing. This is the only way you can really do anything; you can never help another person, because you created them. You must heal yourself, and they will be healed.

[ChildOfNone]

That's powerful PianoPerformer.

[pianoperformer]

I just finished watching the second part of day 1 today. It was also about an hour and a half.

In the beginning, Dr. Len was talking about so-called blue solar water, which is supposed to help to do cleaning if it's aded to things. I'm not sure what I think about it, but I'm willing to try it.

A few things I forgot from yesterday that I want to mention before I move on.

Dr. Len was talking about the real meaning of the word "aloha." Apparently it literally means "in the presence of God," as though when you say it to someone, it is an acknowledgement that you are in the presence of God. I think that is really interesting.

Something else from yesterday is more something that I thought of myself. When he was talking about all this, it came to me that this is kind of like an equation. You are one side of the equation, and the world is the other. Nothing can happen to one side without it also being reflected in the other. So if something is added to your side, it is added to the world's side. If something is subtracted from your side, it is subtracted from the world's side.

The whole point of ho ʻ oponopono is to zero your side, and thereby the world's side will be zeroed as well. It can't be any other way.

Anyway, today, they were explaining the structure of consciousness. He points out four components: the Divine Creator as the first level, the superconscious as the second, the conscious as the third, and finally the subconscious as the fourth. When you are stuck in the data, as he calls it, or acting from memory, then it is just a program coming from the subconscious mind. When you clean, taking everything back to zero, it does this on these three levels (superconscious, conscious, and subconscious). The energy is neutralized and inspiration is sent down from the Divine.

Joe Vitale was saying something that was interesting. He said that if he is living in inspiration as is often the case now, he is no longer creating his experience, but he is simply agreeing to it. You only have the choice to act from inspiration or from memory, but if you are really clear, even that choice is gone, as you will just act from inspiration without thinking about it. It is the thinking about it that gets us stuck in the program.

He mentioned something that he also wrote in the book Zero Limits, which is something that has been on my mind lately. It is a book, called The User Illusion. Apparently there have been studies conducted that have found that before we actually have the chance to make a conscious choice, the choice has already been made on some deeper level, underneath the conscious mind. If a person is presented with two objects and have to choose one to pick up, the choice is already made in the brain before the conscious mind is even aware of making a choice.

This really calls free will into question. When we're under the illusion of making choices, we are stuck in data—we are acting from memory, from some program in the subconscious mind. The thoughts are not personal; we just tend to take credit for them as though they ere ours.

Something Joe asks is, can you predict your next thought? No one is able to. Thoughts just come, and we can't control it.

Dr. Len says there are three levels of being: inspiration, cause, and effect. On the level of inspiration, there is no such thing as cause and effect. Things just happen. It may appear that you do something or I do something, but we are only the vessels in which inspiration has manifested itself. Inspiration is beyond all limits, thus why it is zero limits.

The level of cause includes the memories. The subconscious mind just replays and echoes the memories that are stuck there, until they are cleaned. The conscious mind then gets stuck in this program as well, and it's like its own self-created world.

The world is the effect, and the things in it. The physical disease, emotional problems, financial problems, mental problems, etc, are all effects. You can't heal effects. When you see something, you aren't really seeing it. You are seeing what the memory sees. The world is really within you, generated by memories in the subconscious mind.

Therefore, when you clean the memories, and take them back to zero, the effects are healed as well, because the only thing holding them in place are the memories.

He said that when a thought arises, the only thing to ask is where this thought is coming from. Is it coming from inspiration, or coming from memories? Memories would include something that rationally or logically makes sense, or something born out of desire. Inspiration would be something that just comes out of nowhere. If you can't tell, then you just keep cleaning on it, and it will be made obvious soon enough.

The thing I love is that Dr. Len doesn't surround himself in a protective bubble of positivity. I bring this up because I know there's another thread on it around here. Joe said he knows people who won't watch the news, won't accept gossiping or complaining, etc; in short won't allow anything negative into their lives. Dr. Len, on the other hand, watches the news, and listens to people complain, because he knows that it is just something he has to clean on. It reminds him where he needs to clean.

Oh, one last thing that really caught my attention: Dr. Len says that when we are zero, there is nothing to do; we just are. Zero can't do anything; zero can just be. This is the "I AM"—pure being itself. It is memories and data that can do something, or think they can, anyway, but not zero. So when we try to solve a problem by what seems to be rational action, we are just playing out a program. The best thing is to clean, and then to take inspired action, and the results will be miraculous.

Joe Vitale said that he doesn't even set intentions anymore. They are pointless, because they are the mind's idea of what would be good to have. He just cleans, and the Divine lets things flow into his life, which are greater than he could ever imagine. I am slowly learning the same thing. Intention manifestation is trying to do things backwards. We need to let go, clean, and then things will just come to us that are perfect.

The more I practice this, the more it seems the created world crumbles. I don't mean that in a bad way, as though everything is falling apart. I mean that my perception of the world is just crumbling. Yesterday I was going to reply to a post, but I literally sat there for five minutes trying to find a reason to say anything, because there was no one to say it to, nor anyone who could say it. I did write something short, but that's all I could do at the time.

Today, I've been overpowered by this Love that is just flowing all through my body. It is manifested also by a cool breeze that I feel around me, as well as my hands and the top of my head, and it isn't subsiding. I took a nap, and it was there when I woke up. I believe this to be the Holy Spirit in Christian terms, or just pure Love in my own terminology. It's been having major effects on me and the people around me. It is blissful.

[pianoperformer]

This awareness of Love, of the Holy Spirit, is still persisting this morning. Who would have known that hoʻoponopono would put me in this place?

I realized that it is tying in with my book perfectly. In hoʻoponopono, the phrases are often reduced to simply "I love you." In my book, I encourage practicing being Love—letting Love flow through you unabated. It is this Love that transmutes the memories into pure energy and inspiration. When I notice that I am Love, then I find myself doing things by inspiration that I would not have otherwise. So these are coming from very similar places. There is a perfect correspondence.

Energetically, I feel lighter, almost transparent, if you understand what I mean. There's a small area that is the individuated “I” consciousness, but beyond that there is expansiveness.

I'll be watching the third video later.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Something else from yesterday is more something that I thought of myself. When he was talking about all this, it came to me that this is kind of like an equation. You are one side of the equation, and the world is the other. Nothing can happen to one side without it also being reflected in the other. So if something is added to your side, it is added to the world's side. If something is subtracted from your side, it is subtracted from the world's side.

Great stuff, pianoperformer.

Reminded me of what is mentioned in Zero Limits. When you clean something, it gets cleaned not only in your own mind but in the Universal consciousness as well. That explains Dr Hew Len's remark when he saw one person. He said he reminded him of the starving children in Sri Lanka.

[pianoperformer]

Yesterday, I watched part 3 of day 1.

Dr. Len started out by talking about how all cells have memories as well, so this is how things can be healed through hoʻoponopono.

He continued the discussion on the three levels of conscious: superconsciousness, consciousness, and subconsciousness. The superconscious is the father, the conscious the mother, and the subconscious the child. So it is the mother talking to the child, because all of the programs, data, and concepts are in the child.

Here's how I see the process: the conscious does the cleaning, which goes down to the subconscious. The subconscious lets go of the data, so it travels up through the conscious, the superconscious, and to the Divine (to zero). Then in response, the Divine sends down inspiration to replace the data, so now things can start happening.

I've noticed how the words affect the subconscious energetically. "I'm sorry" seems to dig up that data from the subconscious and take responsibility for it. "Please forgive me" lets go of the data, sending it up to the Divine. "I love you" acknowledges the inspiration that is replacing the data. "Thank you" brings up gratitude for the entire process, securing that inspiration in place.

That's just what I've noticed, so it seems to be intuitive which words I'm using. Sometimes I'll just use "I love you," and sometimes I'll use all of them.

Dr. Len says that it is important not to have any expectations in mind as we are doing the cleaning. It is not for getting outcomes, but for becoming free. Whatever happens is as an effect of the cleaning and of being at zero.

He says that religion comes about when we take inspiration, and take it as law for everyone for all times, so it becomes a memory. Inspiration is sometimes applicable to one person but not another, and sometimes it is meant only for a time, and not eternally.

They talked a lot about cleaning tools. He said that you can teach anything to clean for you, including your own subconscious. You can talk to the inner child, give it permission to let go of the data, and teach it how to clean. Then it will continue even if you don't always remember, or if you are sleeping.

But you can teach anything as well. He gave the example of a glass he was holding. You can speak to it just as you would a person, and teach it how to clean as well. A bit strange I admit, but it's all energy anyway so what's the difference? There are people who say that everything is consciousness, including rocks, so there's no reason why a glass shouldn't be able to do this. It's just imprinting it with the energy to clean.

He also says that any time you hurt a plant, such as cutting down a tree, taking a leaf from a plant, etc, you must ask for permission first. First he says you say "ice blue" before even touching it, and then ask for permission to do whatever you're going to do.

He says that anyone can come up with their own cleaning tools, if inspiration directs them to. Even some existing cleaning tools are good for some people, and not for others, so they have to listen to inspiration and see what comes up.

Something I've noticed for myself and with christine is that when you are getting to zero, it tends to activate the crown chakra. I wonder whether from the point of view of chakras and chakra healing, doing the cleaning actually tends to release the blockages in the chakras.

The reason I say that is this: last night, Christine was really working on cleaning on something and getting to zero to get clarity on a certain question. Soon, she felt a pulling in her head. I believe it was her crown chakra opening. Mine is already pretty open so I have different sensations involved, but hers is not so much. So it seems that this cleaning is a process of going upward and clearing out everything that needs to be cleared. Any other experiences on this?

[pianoperformer]

I had another significant experience recently. I posted it in Cacheborn's thread, but I'll paste it here as well because it is very relevant.

Oh, there was something else pretty big also, which I'll post in the other thread soon. Basically, I finished some incomplete work. Well, I didn't finish it, but I did only about a quarter of what actually had to be done, and all of it was a pretty major part of the grade (like 50% I think). I was a little worried about failing the course, or doing very badly.

I got my grade back today, and guess what I got? When I asked Christine to guess, she guessed a D. Nope! I got a B!

This has happened to me once before, but not to such a degree. Last fall, I completely neglected to do the final project for a class. Not because I forgot, but just out of procrastination. And I got an A in that class. I have no idea how that happened.

I'm not proud that I continue to procrastinate, but God works in my life anyway despite my laziness.

It reminds me of Yogananda in Autobiography of a Yogi. On his final exam in college, he got a 33, when a passing grade was always a 36. Well, he came to find out that starting that year, the new passing grade was a 33. So I can identify with that type of situation.

Just stop depending on cause and effect. It doesn't work that way when the Divine is involved.

[pianoperformer]

I think I'm starting to understand how Dr. Len hears the voice of Divinity, the voice of inspiration, as he is doing his work. Usually, hearing things clairaudiently is very vague for me. I don't hear actual words, but I am better at claircognizance. For instance, I can easily channel when i'm writing or even when I'm speaking to someone, and inspiration easily comes through. However, it's hard for me to get specific information.

But it seems to have happened three times today. In at least one if not two instances it was exact words, and the other instance was claircognizantly, but was very clear, so that I had no doubt.

In the first case, I was IMing Christine while I was in class. She said that our one friend was visiting the apartment. I knew that she'd want to come to dinner with us. So when I met up with Christine, sure enough our friend was with her and she came with us.

On our way to dinner, we met up with a friend we haven't seen for a while. He reported that he was engaged. So we asked all the details and such. I wondered silently where she lived on campus, and I just heard "in an apartment off campus." Later, I couldn't recall if he had said that, or if I had just heard it, but Christine said that he didn't mention anything about it.

Christine just left to go give someone a massage. She gives this girl a massage twice a week, because she has really bad back problems. I told Christine that I thought this girl would want Christine to pray over her tonight. She said it made sense because her family is coming in this weekend and she is nervous about it. This one obviously I cannot be certain of until Christine gets back later.

In all three instances, I was very strongly in the zero state. It seems the stronger it is, the better I can hear whatever is coming through.

Erin Pavlina once told me that my clairaudient potential was off-the-charts, so perhaps this is a manifestation of that.

[pianoperformer]

Update: Christine did pray over that girl after all, and she seemed to really need it. Everything worked out perfectly to let it happen.

[pianoperformer]

Wow, I feel so inspired right now.

I was just listening to on of the videos (I'll post more details later, but this really hit me).

Apparently, Joe was having lunch with one of the women at the seminar, and she was telling him that she felt inspired to write a children's book, so that everyone else could learn about all of this as well.

He told her that no, you don't write the book for anyone else. You write the book for yourself—for your inner child (the subconscious). There is no one else to write it for.

But if you do it for yourself, then likely a publisher will pick it up, and it will help many people. But that's only because it is helping you.

As most know, I am writing my own book on healing. I have sometimes had the concern of whether it would really help other people.

But I have realized that as I write this book, it is really helping me, and that to a very significant degree. It has taught me more about healing than I thought I could ever know. This is proof for me that it comes from inspiration. I even say in the book that I am the author in name only, and only because it was my hands that wrote it, but the source is not myself.

So I am writing the book for myself, not for anyone else, because there is no one else for whom to write it.

And if I do that truly, then it will help everyone else.

And indeed, as I share the book with people I've chosen to review it, it's helped each and every one of them greatly.

Even in writing this thread, I am sharing for myself, because it helps me to clarify my thoughts and get them down for future reference. There is no one to share this with.

This clarifies my thinking for another thread (The Paradox of Teaching), where I ask how it is possible to teach when there is no one to teach.

And the answer? I am teaching myself. Or, the Divine is teaching me. Or those are one in the same.

This is so inspiring, and I feel like this can go deeper, which I'll be thinking about.

[loapatti]

I don't think Joe Vitale has ever had an original thought in his head and in his books. But whatever he's done has worked out for him.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by loapatti

I don't think Joe Vitale has ever had an original thought in his head and in his books. But whatever he's done has worked out for him.

Do you really think that? He seems to be very genuine and helping a lot of people, from what I've seen in the seminars. I really like him. I have no doubt he is fulfilling God's purpose for him.

[loapatti]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Do you really think that? He seems to be very genuine and helping a lot of people, from what I've seen in the seminars. I really like him. I have no doubt he is fulfilling God's purpose for him.

Maybe but he just seems to regurgitate what everyone else has said.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by loapatti

Maybe but he just seems to regurgitate what everyone else has said.

The question is, will you let this keep you from trying something that could change your life for the better?

[pianoperformer]

The Ceeport card came today. Apparently they didn't realize that I also ordered two pins, so they will probably come on Monday or Tuesday.

When I write this, keep in mind that I'm very sensitive to energy. Some of the things I noticed were not the same things Christine noticed, because she is not as sensitive.

When I got the card, the first thing I did was just to hold it in my hands to see what I got. The first thing was that its aura was very, very palpable. It radiated noticeably about 6 inches around the card, and had a very pure energy about it. I don't see auras generally in the terms of color since I can't see, but what feelings I get from them. I could tell that it was very pure energy.

I think I mentioned that when I am at zero, I feel perfect Love flow through me, which I also call the Holy Spirit. When it is especially strong, I feel a cool breeze flow around me, around my hands occasionally, and in the top of my head.

The interesting thing was that when I held this card near any part of my body, I felt that same energy and the gentle wind associated with zero for me. Christine did not feel this, but I definitely did.

It makes sense to me, I guess. If it helps to clean, effectively bringing things to zero, then it will have that same energy about it.

So we'll see what happens when I keep it with me. I'm also looking forward to the pin.

As a note, this will be one of my last posts as piano performer. I am changing to the username ChristsLight, as I mention in my signature. So I'll be posting in this thread with that username soon, once that username is set up.

That decision has been part of this transformative process. Christ's Light, I believe, helps people to transform, or more accurately, help people to see that they are already perfect. It penetrates the illusion and shines upon Truth. I try to channel that in my everyday life, and help people to see that inherent perfection.

So it's an inspiring change for me.

[Arz Sra]

Great Thread Piano....