To Bring Forth a Dream

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

I want my hair to be completely restored.

On your head, you have no hair?

Undue stress can cause hair loss.

Insufficiencies: Hormones, & Diet too can cause hair loss.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

On your head, you have no hair?

Undue stress can cause hair loss.

Insufficiencies: Hormones, & Diet too can cause hair loss.

I have the beginning stages (it stopped getting worse since I started taking finasteride, or at least it is getting worse at a slower rate) of the characteristic thinning that is known as male pattern baldness. Lots of hair on the side, expanding bald spot on the crown and thin hair on the front. It started at around 18. My attempts to eat better, exercise, take reasonable doses of supplements, etc had no effect on it.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

Lots of hair on the side, expanding bald spot on the crown and thin hair on the front.

taking finasteride, or at least it is getting worse at a slower rate) of the characteristic thinning
as male pattern baldness. It started at around 18.
My attempts to eat better, exercise, take reasonable doses of supplements, etc had no effect on it.

I know the term "male pattern baldness"

I mentioned physical causes first, as they are more accepted, by the general public.

Many conditions are prior to that, behaviorally Imprinted.
Meaning at some point in your life, your own subconscious mind,
(from an accepted figure-head) decided that's how you should look too. Hence
it since has been creating that other expected reality.

To change that, you need help from a person skilled in deep-trance hypnosis... to help guide you in making a newer decision...

[truant]

Originally Posted by lycan

This has been bugging me. While I know it was meant to be helpful and just an example, I find it keeps bringing feelings of powerlesness and unworthyness within me to think this way. For example, to stick with the appearance theme, I want my hair to be completely restored. Why? Because I love it. Not because I hope people willl treat me differently but because I want it for myself. The hair is not a stage on the path, it is an end result. Sure, there are other end results. For some of those other end results, the hair may be a stage. But it is still a separate end result in itself.


Note:
I find I have a huge amount of resistance to LoA material when I perceive it to be saying that I can't actually change my experience, only the meanings I attach to it, which is essentially what these broad emotional generalizations are and what the standard "mechanical materialist" model of reality claims.

Rest assured: I don't mean to imply that you can't go about it by intending for specific results, only that it is often easier to get results by using a roundabout method. The reason, of course, is that people have hang-ups about 'impossible' things. For many people, the idea of intending a dramatic physical change for their body is inevitably bound up with doubt. There is simply no way for them to visualize such a change without also doubting their ability to achieve it. This is the principle reason why intentions fail. It is also the reason why most IM practitioners recommend starting with small intentions that don't carry ego-baggage: there is much less resistance to the manifestation. Once you get the hang of these small manifestations, your confidence will grow and you may begin focusing on more important things.

Things like hair loss and impaired vision not only carry an 'impossible' stigma endorsed by the 'authority' of medical science, they are also powerfully charged ego affairs: the impending threat of age, the loss of physical appeal, the degradation of the senses--these are some of the things we fear the most, and struggle the hardest to overcome. People shouldn't be surprised to discover that reversing these effects is difficult: they are charged with doubt and negativity. In addition, you must contend with the incredulity of others. If you are intending for these things, you must remember to be gentle with yourself: you will have to revamp many of your thoughts in these areas to create the proper beliefs that support the changes you desire.

Incidentally, by intending that others perceive your outer beauty (as evidenced in their reactions to you) I do not mean to imply that you are simply changing your interpretation of their responses: I actually mean to say that you will become objectively more attractive, simply not in a predefined way. You will radiate the beauty that is already inherent instead of constructing it manually.

To reply, briefly, to your earlier request about mental ecology it can be summed up simply thus: do you actually want what you think you want? When I was younger, I wanted to be a rock star. Then I thought very seriously about what that sort of life style would be like and decided I didn't really want to live that way. My passionate visualizations were being short-circuited by the simple fact that I didn't really want what I thought I wanted. You say you want to be a model. Do you really want to be a model? Think about it very, very seriously. You can have wealth and beauty and fame without becoming one. As Don Juan would say: Does this path have a heart? If it doesn't, don't waste your life trying to convince yourself that you want something that doesn't appeal to you. This is why I said earlier that the chief obstacle to IM was not that it doesn't work, but that people don't know themselves well enough to know what they really want. Without focus, you might as well not bother.

[lycan]

I'm having a very hard time controlling my thoughts, emotions and untangling whatever belief structures may be harming me. It's not that I'm always feeling bad but the feeling of being restrained and unsafe is always in the back of my mind. I hate this feeling. It's like my mind is way smarter than me (if that makes any sense). I wish there was a clear step by step plan I could trust in and follow. What happens now is that I look at a plan, either given to me by another or created by myself (and I'm including Abraham-Hicks type plans of "letting go"), and my mind spots the flaws in it; "this plan is not good enough, it's not going to work".

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by truant

Rest assured:
The reason, of course, is that people have hang-ups about 'impossible' things. For many people, the idea of intending a dramatic physical change for their body is inevitably bound up with doubt.
There is simply no way for them to visualize such a change without also doubting their ability to achieve it. This is the principle reason why intentions fail. It is also the reason why most IM practitioners recommend starting with small intentions that don't carry ego-baggage: there is much less resistance to the manifestation. Once you get the hang of these small manifestations, your confidence will grow and you may begin focusing on more important things.

Things like hair loss and impaired vision not only carry an 'impossible' stigma endorsed by the 'authority' of medical science, they are also powerfully charged ego affairs: the impending threat of age, the loss of physical appeal, the degradation of the senses--these are some of the things we fear the most, and struggle the hardest to overcome.
People shouldn't be surprised to discover that reversing these effects is difficult: they are charged with doubt and negativity. In addition, you must contend with the incredulity of others. If you are intending for these things, you must remember to be gentle with yourself: you will have to revamp many of your thoughts in these areas to create the proper beliefs that support the changes you desire.

To reply, briefly, to your earlier request about mental ecology it can be summed up simply thus: do you actually want what you think you want?
You say you want to be a model. Do you really want to be a model? Think about it very, very seriously. You can have wealth and beauty and fame without becoming one.

As Don Juan would say: Does this path have a heart? If it doesn't, don't waste your life trying to convince yourself that you want something that doesn't appeal to you.
This is why I said earlier that the chief obstacle to IM was not that it doesn't work, but that people don't know themselves well enough to know what they really want. Without focus, you might as well not bother.

All this was really Well said!

[lycan]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

All this was really Well said!

I thought so too.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

I'm having a very hard time controlling my thoughts,
emotions and untangling whatever belief structures may be harming me.
It's not that I'm always feeling bad but the feeling of being restrained and unsafe is always in the back of my mind. I hate this feeling. It's like my mind is way smarter than me (if that makes any sense). I wish there was a clear step by step plan I could trust in and follow. What happens now is that I look at a plan, either given to me by another or created by myself (and I'm including Abraham-Hicks type plans of "letting go"), and my mind spots the flaws in it; "this plan is not good enough, it's not going to work".

What do I do about that?

There are people here who will tell you that you can use hocus-pocus, to get rid of that.
And in their model of the world that may work.
I don't agree with those methods at all, for two important Safety-reasons.

I suggest you find a Practitioner, well skilled in especially Hypnosis & NLP successful in Change-work,
who has helped people FREE herself & himself, such that (having passed necessary Ecology-checks), you can live the life of your dreams...

[lycan]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

I suggest you find a Practitioner, well skilled in especially Hypnosis & NLP successful in Change-work,
who has helped people FREE herself & himself, such that (having passed necessary Ecology-checks), you can live the life of your dreams...

How/where? Note, I have no money.

Also, which two important safety reasons?

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

Also, which two important safety reasons?

-> Avoiding, like the plaque they are: 'evil' spirits.
& thus
-> Avoiding the 'consequences' of their influence.
Those 2 are the reasons 99% of Christians won't participate here.
They recognize the real dangers.

Unfortunately, by (CLOSING their minds completely,
just like atheists do to God), they miss out on all the other God-blessed Opportunities,
abilities, & possibilities which God us each richly Blessed with: such as self-Healing , &
guiding others' self-Heal , plus further human-developments. The potential is almost Unlimited

Originally Posted by lycan

How/where?
Note, I have no money.

Do you live in the wild?, where there's less opportunity to find a job

[lycan]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

Do you live in the wild?, where there's less opportunity to find a job

I did not go to high school. This means I don't have a high school diploma. The fastest way I know to get one would take a year. This means I am not qualified to be a garbage collector. I cannot handle another year of this life. Finding a job is not a viable means to earn money. I saw once reference to models needing at least a high school diploma. That made me even more depressed.

[VinceG]

Not having a High School diploma only hinders people who think that worthless piece of paper means something.

[truant]

Originally Posted by lycan

I'm having a very hard time controlling my thoughts, emotions and untangling whatever belief structures may be harming me. It's not that I'm always feeling bad but the feeling of being restrained and unsafe is always in the back of my mind. I hate this feeling. It's like my mind is way smarter than me (if that makes any sense). I wish there was a clear step by step plan I could trust in and follow. What happens now is that I look at a plan, either given to me by another or created by myself (and I'm including Abraham-Hicks type plans of "letting go"), and my mind spots the flaws in it; "this plan is not good enough, it's not going to work".

Let me start by saying that reality will always withstand your strongest efforts to disprove it. By that I mean this: you do not have to be afraid to use your intellect to the fullest, to shred beliefs and methods, to find flaws in the arguments and experiences of others. The real methods always conform to logic; in other words, the more intensely you scrutinize beliefs and methods, the faster you will approach truth and freedom. The real methods do not require you to abandon logic and reason, only that you be willing to scrutinize your current beliefs as strongly as you scrutinize the beliefs that people like myself are offering to you. The danger in using logic to approach questions about the nature of reality is that you only go half-way: you scrutinize and disprove others but fail to scrutinize and disprove yourself. So long as you treat your current beliefs with the same relentless demand for proof as you treat all other beliefs, you cannot be led astray...in the long run, anyway.

That 'feeling of being restrained and unsafe' is a product of your beliefs. You may not be consciously aware of those beliefs at the moment, but they are there and they can be changed. Typically, these feelings are produced by sweeping beliefs about the nature of experience; example: 'I can't control my own experience'; 'I am at the mercy of random events'; 'The world is dangerous and unpredictable'; etc. These are merely beliefs. The FACT is that at this point, you don't know. Maybe you can control your experience. Maybe you are not at the mercy of outside events. Maybe the world is only as dangerous and unpredictable as you allow it to be. You won't know unless you give this whole IM thing a serious go. And by that I mean: a lot of deep, logical thinking, and a lot of trial and experimentation. It would be illogical for you to assume that it doesn't work based on your current experience because you simply don't have enough of it. I have over twenty years of experience working with this material, so I no longer question its effectiveness. But I expect you to doubt it, and it would be irresponsible of you not to.

Originally Posted by lycan

I did not go to high school. This means I don't have a high school diploma. The fastest way I know to get one would take a year. This means I am not qualified to be a garbage collector. I cannot handle another year of this life. Finding a job is not a viable means to earn money. I saw once reference to models needing at least a high school diploma. That made me even more depressed.

I agree with Vince. The diploma means nothing unless you let it mean something. In my current position, I occasionally have to hire people. While I do look at education and experience, personality always trumps a good resume. I'd rather hire an uneducated person with common sense and a positive disposition than an educated dolt with no common sense and an inflated sense of self-importance. The first kind is easier to train. (FWIW I don't have a university education but I can talk circles around the university kids that work for me. Turns out memorization and intelligence are separate skills. )

And I think you need to re-examine your beliefs about your current experience: yes, you are having a hard time and experiencing a lot of negativity, but you are, simultaneously on the threshold of taking control over your life. And in a profound way. Stick it out.

I could have gone to university and gotten a 'real' education and a 'real' job but I already knew I could do the work so it didn't interest me. Reading and memorizing and regurgitating data is about as exciting as brick-laying. I took a normal, dead-end job instead because I knew it held more valuable experiences for me: I was academically gifted, but socially awkward and lacking in common sense. Working 40+ hours a week with the public is a good way to overcome both of those limitations. Don't discount the value of these sorts of 'common' experiences; they can be tremendously important for giving you a rounded experience and perspective. Personally, I use my job as a sort of lab where I experiment with reality. A min wage job is only boring if you're a boring person to begin with. For me, there is no difference between working at McDonald's and being the dean of a university. Anyone who thinks otherwise has some work to do.

[ChildOfNone]

this thread is quite interesting to me.
I want to go down a path so what akin to what you describe here.
As I have been preparing for my journey many ideas have presented themselves to me including the book that I am posting a link to.

Alberto Villoldo - Courageous Dreaming

I have not yet read this book but I feel strongly that it has the idea that will allow me to shift from a wretched life of isolation, dysfunction, chaos and more to one in which I feel joined to the universe and am able to use my gifts for the benefit of myself and the world around me.

For me it is time that I embrace my resistance rather than continue resisting it and therefore giving it power and life. The more I learn and observe about manifestation the more I see how unwittingly I manifested that which I do not want.

lycan - you are on a majestic journey and I pray you will find yourself on the path where you envision you belong.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

I did not go to high school. This means I don't have a high school diploma.
Finding a job is not a viable means to earn money.
more depressed.

Actually in my experience with people, lots of people I've taught...
there's a distinct difference between memorizing useless, harmful stuff; and helpful intelligence.

And each of us children of God is blessed with intelligence.
Question is: How are you helping yourself with it, as well as others

For instance, take an M.D.:
12yrs. of public schooling
+4yrs of undergrad. BS
+4yrs of med-school
+1yr. internship
+3yrs. residency
+4yrs. Specialization training, plus +
---
28+ yrs. of school. By that time, you'd expect, wouldn't you, they actually know
How to foster & encourage people' s own self-Healing as this is how God us created to thrive...
But,
instead: they want/demand that you believe they ARE 'god'.
Pretending to know what's best: to remake you into
a lifelong... patient to "manage" to "control" as far as
conditions, dis-ease, symptoms, sickness, whatever.
After 28+ yrs. of school that's all that most of them know.

Consider this example: in 1991, a little girl
(from another medical malpractice) found herself in the hospital,
with much of her skin destroyed & docs told her
she could expect to stay there, for weeks... until it grew back.

She told them: I'd rather die 1st.
then spend any more time in this hell. - Mom, how fast can I regrow my skin?
her mom responded:
Ignore them. Simply Focus on regrowing your precious skin, get outa here, & back to fun..."

She did. And 4 days later, she was back home.

Now why did I share this, lycan? - because since an 8yr. old child has the Intelligence,
to do... what (people with 28 yrs. of school can't even fathom),

can you just Imagine the power of your own mind & Intelligence...

[lycan]

Business idea:

1.Take all of truant's posts.
2.Put then through an article rewriter.
3.Edit into a book.
4.Become a best-selling LoA author.
5.Get rich!

[lycan]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

She told them: I'd rather die 1st.
then spend any more time in this hell. - Mom, how fast can I regrow my skin?
her mom responded:
Ignore them. Simply Focus on regrowing your precious skin, get outa here, & back to fun..."

She did. And 4 days later, she was back home.

Now why did I share this, lycan? - because since an 8yr. old child has the Intelligence,
to do... what (people with 28 yrs. of school can't even fathom),

can you just Imagine the power of your own mind & Intelligence...

Thank you.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by ChildOfNone

lycan - you are on a majestic journey and I pray you will find yourself on the path where you envision you belong.

I liked this:

During one healing ceremony, the shaman explained to me that like everyone, I can either have what I want, or the reasons why I can't.

"You are too enamored of your story," the old man said to me. "Until you dare to dream a different dream, all you will have will be the nightmare." That evening, he showed me how I could craft a different story for myself, one in which I had been tempered by adversity, and in which my experiences had taught me to have compassion for others who were suffering.

The fact is, you can live the life of a victim, burdened by the traumas of your past, or you can live the life of a hero, but you can't do both.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

Thank you.

in case you hadn't guessed, this 8 yr.young child was my daughter
who I Homeschooled, who graduated college with honors at age 17

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

Business idea:

1.Take all of truant's posts.
2.Put then through an article rewriter.
3.Edit into a book.
4.Become a best-selling LoA author.
5.Get rich!

what!
Very disappointed to read that.
That's called Plagiarism, iow "stealing" someone else work.

Hopefully you are better than that! -

You have all this time on your hands, and
you can do your own work, just like the rest of us. Really!

[lycan]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

what!
Very disappointed to read that.
That's called Plagiarism, iow "stealing" someone else work.

You do know I was:

1. Joking.
2. Giving him a compliment.

Right?

[truant]

Originally Posted by lycan

Business idea:

1.Take all of truant's posts.
2.Put then through an article rewriter.
3.Edit into a book.
4.Become a best-selling LoA author.
5.Get rich!

I LOLd.

[lycan]

I don't know what step to take.

I cannot fall back into depression.

[lycan]

I did about 50 hours of fasting, during which I had a period of a sort of euphoria and then I broke down. I will go back to fasting since I don't know what else to do. The purpose of the fasting is to heal my skin.

[truant]

Originally Posted by lycan

I don't know what step to take.

I cannot fall back into depression.

Look: a big part of depression is being obsessed with your present predicament. You have a narrative about yourself and your circumstances and you LIKE that narrative, even though the depression causes you to suffer. You need to be more creative in your thinking about this narrative because I assure you: you have a lot more potential and many more opportunities than your current narrative affords you.

I know you have a specific ego-ideal in mind and that you would like to attain it. You want the freedom to be the person that you want to be. I'm not asking you to give that up, I'm asking you to make that ego-ideal better. You want to be good-looking (maybe you are, I don't know; maybe you just want to be better looking); you want to correct your vision; you want to reverse hair loss; you want to cheat death. Fine, go after those things; I don't have a problem with that. What you need to do to obtain those objectives, though, is to add some more features to that ego-ideal: you want to be determined, resourceful, keenly attentive to your present experience and beliefs, daring (because you must be daring to do what you want to do), confident. I could add a lot more. (I think reading Castaneda would be helpful, actually.) The point is, you can have the kind of life that you desire, but you have to have the will and the resources to get it.

Imagine yourself as this sort of person. What would Tyler Durden do? You can be more than your current ideal, and being those other things will help you get the things you're missing. You are the writer of this narrative: it is your choice how you want to respond to events, what sort of person you want to be. The impression I get from reading your posts is that you're tough and you're smart. Use those qualities to your advantage.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by lycan

I did about 50 hours of fasting, during which I had a period of a sort of euphoria and then I broke down.
I will go back to fasting since I don't know what else to do.
The purpose of the fasting is to heal my skin.

What was wrong with your skin?

[ChildOfNone]

Lycan - I have a host of things I want changed and a comiserate number of obstacles. One of my obstacles has been disorganization so I find myself flitting from one thing to be changed to another, not maintaining the focus and so perhaps the power of Intention.

As being ADD/disorganized is an obstacle I decided to begin there. I have collected a few techniques to use in moving out of the world of obstacles and into the world of manifestation.

I acknowledge the disorder around me and recognize the resistance I have had towards it. Then I proclaim to myself and out loud, "I have no opinion about the disorder." As the power of these words penetrate my being their reality become manifest. And I am able to create a list of other such obstacles and a list of desires.

As my list grows and as I move from the appearance of disorder into the reality of order an order takes over my list and I am able to apply my knowledge and techniques of manifestation to it.

Corral your objections and obstacles so that you may begin to see them grouped together. acknowledge them without judging them good or bad. Remember resistance give them reality. Acknowledging them without judging them (neither good nor bad just IS) moves into another realm.

When I became frustrated with the manifestation "struggle" I had to acknowledge the many ways I had participated in manifesting all the situations I did not want. I came into this state of mind through no fault of my own but thank heavens I recognized that I and I alone have the power AND the will to shift into a reality of my dreams, desires, purpose and will.

In some ways I have been on this journey for some time. In other ways I have just begun. The road to gather the knowledge, understanding and techniques was the first leg. Now I have begun the road of shifting realities and I am thankful. Listing, acknowledging, releasing judgment on obstacles is powerful and fruitful.

I will share more according to your thread and soon will begin a thread of my own documenting this portion of my journey.

The reality of your dreams is beconning you. Chose the life of hero Lycan. It is there for ou to choose. You have your entire life to make that choice but why waste time?

[lycan]

Note to self: When falling into depressive thought patterns, take a nap.

[ChildOfNone]

Depression lulls you into sleep but sleep will not resolve the depression.

Here is a site that explains Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz 4 step process that I have used effectively to shift out of the negative emotions and thoughts. I have used this along with EFT. Schwartz initially proposed these 4 steps for an antedote to OCD but many recognized that it was applicable to far more than OCD alone and Schwartz last book opens the field.

Four Steps

It took me quite some time before I was ready to move out of the problems even though I longed for the solution. But I needed to get the empathy that had alluded me when I needed it most. I was stuck in a very young developmental stage in need of the mirroring and caring and empathizing.

Ultimately, I had to find it for myself and then at long last I am able to move on to the stage where I am now: identifying, organizing and releasing the obstacles.

Each stage is important. I could not do this until I had done that.

Good luck to you Lican.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by truant

Look: a big part of depression is being obsessed with your present predicament. You have a narrative about yourself and your circumstances and you LIKE that narrative, even though the depression causes you to suffer. You need to be more creative in your thinking about this narrative because I assure you: you have a lot more potential and many more opportunities than your current narrative affords you.

I believe this. Sometimes.

I know you have a specific ego-ideal in mind and that you would like to attain it. You want the freedom to be the person that you want to be. I'm not asking you to give that up, I'm asking you to make that ego-ideal better. What you need to do to obtain those objectives, though, is to add some more features to that ego-ideal: you want to be determined, resourceful, keenly attentive to your present experience and beliefs, daring (because you must be daring to do what you want to do), confident. I could add a lot more. (I think reading Castaneda would be helpful, actually.)

Those things have always been, and will always be, in my "ego-ideal".

Imagine yourself as this sort of person. What would Tyler Durden do?

What would Tyler Durden do? I can't find the answer but I'll meditate on that.