Admit it, you really don't believe that you create your own reality...

[iraro]

Come on, admit it, you don’t really believe that create your own reality! Sometimes, you are just “towed” by forces over which you have no power. When you are in a hurry and your car won’t start…you didn’t do that…its God’s will. When your husband forgets to pick up your clothes from the cleaners and you don’t have the dress you want to wear that day, you did not create that reality. It’s not want you wanted. It’s not your fault. Maybe it’s not God’s fault, but surely it’s your husband’s fault. And, boy do you plan to dump on him.

If your car is hit by a drunk driver, everybody knows you didn’t create that reality…the drunk driver did! Even the police and courts will agree that you did not create your reality. In fact, absolutely no one, including, I suggest, those on this forum, will be so insensitive to ask you how and why did you “co-create” that event? If a neighbor suggested you were a “co-creator,” you would be insulted and he’d be taken off your Xmas list. Because it’s obvious to all; we are all in agreement the way we all agree the sky is blue; you have no responsibility, you are the victim here, at the mercy of events you can not control when a drunk driver hits your car!

Other than schizophrenia, having multiple personalities or using the trump card—its God’s will, how does one purport to reconcile the belief that “I believe I create my on own reality” while “I believe I don’t create my reality"—at least not the unwanted events. If I can live with these conflicting beliefs, am I living with other conflicting beliefs. If one’s thinking is burdened by this dichotomy—these two mutually exclusive beliefs, not to mention other conflicts not consciously known, then how is one’s ability to rationally view reality, intentionally manifest, practice LOA and take action affected? What's the point if you don't clean house and sweep out all the conflicting beliefs before one starts down the path of one's manifestation adventure?

Can one, as suggested by Elias below actually take responsibility for creating his entire reality? Thereby eliminating one conflicting belief.

ELIAS: ‘‘Your reality is not creating you! Therefore, all that occurs within your reality is not creating you. YOU are creating all that is within your reality through choices, but you view in the reverse.

(Humorously) ‘‘You view, regardless of what you express – that you BELIEVE you create your reality – in actuality, you believe that your reality creates you! And therefore, you are victim to your reality, for you are without choices. And therefore, you hold no control – another very large bird within these bird cages, the ominous control bird, and its twin of the infamous LACK of control bird! (Laughter) And they move quite efficiently together, and THEY are creating of your reality! You are not creating of your reality, for reality creates you. You do not create reality. (Very tongue in cheek)

‘‘You yourselves have created all of these beliefs! You yourselves have created all of these bird cages and all of the birds within them, and they have served you well throughout all of your reality, through millenniums, and they are not bad now any more than they have been bad previously within your reality.

‘‘You are changing your reality to be expanding your reality, but if you are to be expanding your reality, you also shall be allowing yourself acceptance of what you have created, and in this acceptance, you also recognize your responsibility – that you yourselves are creating your reality IN EVERY ASPECT OF IT, and that it is not creating of you.

‘‘And even now – as I have spoken to you for much time framework – within your humor, you express different words, that the universe is dealing you certain elements of reality that you are subject to. Even within your playfulness, you reflect what you believe, and what you believe is not necessarily that you create your reality, but that some cosmic element, some higher self, some ‘unconscious’ aspect is creating for you, for it is in control, and it is skipping merrily with you in tow OUT of control ... and there we view the twin birds once again!’’ [session 472, September 19, 1999]

[sorter]

I admit nothing. You'll never break me Herr Officer.

It's all just stinkin' thinkin' as far as I'm concerned.
The reality is you repeat particular ideas to yourself,
trying to believe them, and doing that has affects.
If you like the affects, fine. If not, try a different belief.
Belief is just a tool. Truth has little to do with it. And that's the truth.

The problem people are the ones that stick to dogma and don't
care how their beliefs affect anything or anyone including themselves.

I find the idea that I've completely created my reality moderately useful.
But believing that's and absolute truth is just crazy.
.

[arpee]

I do actually believe that I create my own reality. My reality is created through my vibration. If I'm happy, I'm creating a happy life. I may not be creating every detail but law of attraction is doing that for me. Which is good because I love the surprises it makes life much more fun.

[Reefs]

Let's say you are watching Madlock. And while watching, is there any doubt if Madlock creates or doesn't create his own reality? Does that question even arise?

[truant]

There is no division between self and non-self, hence to say that I create my own reality is essentially the same as saying that God creates my reality. In point of fact, it is a matter of perspective, and all perspectives are conceptual. You/God creates your reality. There is no conflict between self/other only ignorance of the relationship.

Who is watching Madlock? God watches his own performance.

[iraro]

You make me think. I believe "Matlocke" is a TV show. So, it's scripted. Thus the question does not arise unless, perhaps, he is hit by Mel Gibson on his way from the set.

More relevanat is the effect on the observer. How he allows it to affect him. I assume Matlock is not like watching the Zapruder film for the first time. So the effect on the observer is minimal, assuming that simultaneously he's not being held hostage at gunpoint. It's entertainment, relaxation, time killing, whatever, spiked with subliminal or overt commerical messages. To the extent the observer choses to watch Matlock and give it his attention he is creating that reality for himself.

[Wax Frog]

Allowing that I didn't read the OP (too lazy )

No, I [that is, the story character who bears the name I was given at birth] do not create my reality. However, whatever it is that lies behind this "story" DOES!

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Allowing that I didn't read the OP (too lazy )

No, I [that is, the story character who bears the name I was given at birth] do not create my reality. However, whatever it is that lies behind this "story" DOES!

[masteredfate]

Originally Posted by iraro

Come on, admit it, you don’t really believe that create your own reality! Sometimes, you are just “towed” by forces over which you have no power. When you are in a hurry and your car won’t start…you didn’t do that…its God’s will. When your husband forgets to pick up your clothes from the cleaners and you don’t have the dress you want to wear that day, you did not create that reality. It’s not want you wanted. It’s not your fault. Maybe it’s not God’s fault, but surely it’s your husband’s fault. And, boy do you plan to dump on him.

If your car is hit by a drunk driver, everybody knows you didn’t create that reality…the drunk driver did! Even the police and courts will agree that you did not create your reality. In fact, absolutely no one, including, I suggest, those on this forum, will be so insensitive to ask you how and why did you “co-create” that event? If a neighbor suggested you were a “co-creator,” you would be insulted and he’d be taken off your Xmas list. Because it’s obvious to all; we are all in agreement the way we all agree the sky is blue; you have no responsibility, you are the victim here, at the mercy of events you can not control when a drunk driver hits your car!

Other than schizophrenia, having multiple personalities or using the trump card—its God’s will, how does one purport to reconcile the belief that “I believe I create my on own reality” while “I believe I don’t create my reality"—at least not the unwanted events. If I can live with these conflicting beliefs, am I living with other conflicting beliefs. If one’s thinking is burdened by this dichotomy—these two mutually exclusive beliefs, not to mention other conflicts not consciously known, then how is one’s ability to rationally view reality, intentionally manifest, practice LOA and take action affected? What's the point if you don't clean house and sweep out all the conflicting beliefs before one starts down the path of one's manifestation adventure?

Can one, as suggested by Elias below actually take responsibility for creating his entire reality? Thereby eliminating one conflicting belief.

ELIAS: ‘‘Your reality is not creating you! Therefore, all that occurs within your reality is not creating you. YOU are creating all that is within your reality through choices, but you view in the reverse.

(Humorously) ‘‘You view, regardless of what you express – that you BELIEVE you create your reality – in actuality, you believe that your reality creates you! And therefore, you are victim to your reality, for you are without choices. And therefore, you hold no control – another very large bird within these bird cages, the ominous control bird, and its twin of the infamous LACK of control bird! (Laughter) And they move quite efficiently together, and THEY are creating of your reality! You are not creating of your reality, for reality creates you. You do not create reality. (Very tongue in cheek)

‘‘You yourselves have created all of these beliefs! You yourselves have created all of these bird cages and all of the birds within them, and they have served you well throughout all of your reality, through millenniums, and they are not bad now any more than they have been bad previously within your reality.

‘‘You are changing your reality to be expanding your reality, but if you are to be expanding your reality, you also shall be allowing yourself acceptance of what you have created, and in this acceptance, you also recognize your responsibility – that you yourselves are creating your reality IN EVERY ASPECT OF IT, and that it is not creating of you.

‘‘And even now – as I have spoken to you for much time framework – within your humor, you express different words, that the universe is dealing you certain elements of reality that you are subject to. Even within your playfulness, you reflect what you believe, and what you believe is not necessarily that you create your reality, but that some cosmic element, some higher self, some ‘unconscious’ aspect is creating for you, for it is in control, and it is skipping merrily with you in tow OUT of control ... and there we view the twin birds once again!’’ [session 472, September 19, 1999]

It takes a lot of anger to tell people they are lying to themselves. Everyone is living their truth. Even if it's dumb, foolish or a lie to you. I hope you feel better soon.

[sunshineXTC]

It's foolish and naive to think or believe you will never have or currently have no doubt, fear or disbelief. Creating your own reality is not the norm in this world. Most people accept the lot they are given and see themselves as powerless victims. Probably everyone has done it with at least one situation or event in their lives. It's natural and normal. To pretend otherwise is foolish.

The REAL RAW POWER of creating your own reality comes FROM disbelief, fear and doubt. This may seem contradictory, I know, but it has been my experience.

Anyone can do the easy part of creating - the focusing, the hoping, the reaching, the wanting and desiring, the attracting - and yet that doesn't always get you across the finish line, does it? When it doesn't, it's always because of one thing way down at the root (though possibly there may be other beliefs of unworthiness, lack, etc that may also interfere) is that core fear, doubt and/or disbelief that does most everyone in at some point. What most don't understand is that they need to harness that energy and take it to manifest what they want. Lots of frauds miss this very fine point and gloss over it by saying things like stay positive and repress or ignore negatives, etc. That's how you know they are a fraud because that is not how you create your own reality. It's how you DON'T create it.

When fear, doubt or disbelief come up in you, you need to look right at it rather than ignore or repress or deny it because it is a contradictory belief you have that will at bare minimum stalemate your creation so that it does not happen. By looking right at it, seeing that it exists as a POSSIBILITY, accepting and acknowledging it presently exists in your reality as a POSSIBILITY, you begin to change the outcome. As you face this POSSIBILITY you choose to not believe in it. You play chicken with it in your mind, seeing that only fear and doubt are its allies and you do not embrace them. You do not imagine this POSSIBILITY becoming THE ACTUAL OUTCOME. It is but an option. All options exist. You are seeing this because it is powerful enough within you (this doubt, fear and/or disbelief) to cross into your awareness.

As you look straight at it, ACCEPTING that it does exist BUT ONLY AS ONE POSSIBLE OUTCOME WITH THE OTHER BEING THE OUTCOME YOU DESIRE, you DO NOT CHOOSE IT. You see that the only way this option can become your reality is to believe it is real. IT IS NOT REAL. IT IS NEVER REAL UNTIL IT HAS HAPPENED. Until the last moment of the event or situation or circumstance has passed in your present moment, IT IS NOT REAL. IT IS ONLY A POSSIBILITY. So you DO NOT ACCEPT it as the outcome. You detach from it and do not get caught up in the drama of that possibility for it is ONLY A possibility. As you do this, you take the power from that POSSIBLE outcome and channel it into the outcome you want. You are deactivating that contradictory belief that you cannot have what you desire. You deny that it will be THE outcome while pushing it right out of your experience. And as you watch it fade out of your experience you feel that raw power of creation surging through you. It's the most amazing feeling you can ever know. Once you have experienced that, you understand fully and completely that you are truly the creator of your reality. That is how you create your own reality.

[sunshineXTC]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

Allowing that I didn't read the OP (too lazy )

No, I [that is, the story character who bears the name I was given at birth] do not create my reality. However, whatever it is that lies behind this "story" DOES!

I didn't read the entire post either. I never read rants where people shout their disbelief at their ability to create. Fact is, right there they are creating that they do no create their reality.

It's a shame because those are the people that I most want to help. It's why I keep posting in another thread here. My desire to help that person is so powerful. I really wish for them to be able to change their situation. Yet, their beliefs hold them back and try as you might, you can't get through to them.

I fully understand when someone deals with tragic situations. I don't believe in blaming the victim. I know there are people out there who don't understand or believe and that lack of understanding or belief keeps them stuck where they are.

I wish I had the ability to fill the world with the light of understanding that would fill them with all the knowledge and awareness and most especially self-awareness to create their own reality. Hmm? That might be a nice creation. I think I'll toss that around in my mind for a while. I wish no one ever suffered. Sadly, it's easier to give up our power than to keep struggling with it especially when there are things you want that you don't believe you can have. That's quite possibly one of the most painful experiences out there. I know because I have been there. I may still end up there time and again. Hopefully less and less and I learn more and more.

[HappyIam]

Originally Posted by sunshineXTC

It's foolish and naive to think or believe you will never have or currently have no doubt, fear or disbelief. Creating your own reality is not the norm in this world. Most people accept the lot they are given and see themselves as powerless victims. Probably everyone has done it with at least one situation or event in their lives. It's natural and normal. To pretend otherwise is foolish.

The REAL RAW POWER of creating your own reality comes FROM disbelief, fear and doubt. This may seem contradictory, I know, but it has been my experience.

Anyone can do the easy part of creating - the focusing, the hoping, the reaching, the wanting and desiring, the attracting - and yet that doesn't always get you across the finish line, does it? When it doesn't, it's always because of one thing way down at the root (though possibly there may be other beliefs of unworthiness, lack, etc that may also interfere) is that core fear, doubt and/or disbelief that does most everyone in at some point. What most don't understand is that they need to harness that energy and take it to manifest what they want. Lots of frauds miss this very fine point and gloss over it by saying things like stay positive and repress or ignore negatives, etc. That's how you know they are a fraud because that is not how you create your own reality. It's how you DON'T create it.

When fear, doubt or disbelief come up in you, you need to look right at it rather than ignore or repress or deny it because it is a contradictory belief you have that will at bare minimum stalemate your creation so that it does not happen. By looking right at it, seeing that it exists as a POSSIBILITY, accepting and acknowledging it presently exists in your reality as a POSSIBILITY, you begin to change the outcome. As you face this POSSIBILITY you choose to not believe in it. You play chicken with it in your mind, seeing that only fear and doubt are its allies and you do not embrace them. You do not imagine this POSSIBILITY becoming THE ACTUAL OUTCOME. It is but an option. All options exist. You are seeing this because it is powerful enough within you (this doubt, fear and/or disbelief) to cross into your awareness.

As you look straight at it, ACCEPTING that it does exist BUT ONLY AS ONE POSSIBLE OUTCOME WITH THE OTHER BEING THE OUTCOME YOU DESIRE, you DO NOT CHOOSE IT. You see that the only way this option can become your reality is to believe it is real. IT IS NOT REAL. IT IS NEVER REAL UNTIL IT HAS HAPPENED. Until the last moment of the event or situation or circumstance has passed in your present moment, IT IS NOT REAL. IT IS ONLY A POSSIBILITY. So you DO NOT ACCEPT it as the outcome. You detach from it and do not get caught up in the drama of that possibility for it is ONLY A possibility. As you do this, you take the power from that POSSIBLE outcome and channel it into the outcome you want. You are deactivating that contradictory belief that you cannot have what you desire. You deny that it will be THE outcome while pushing it right out of your experience. And as you watch it fade out of your experience you feel that raw power of creation surging through you. It's the most amazing feeling you can ever know. Once you have experienced that, you understand fully and completely that you are truly the creator of your reality. That is how you create your own reality.

Wow thank you sunshine this makes a lot of sense to me!!

[iraro]

Originally Posted by masteredfate

It takes a lot of anger to tell people they are lying to themselves. Everyone is living their truth. Even if it's dumb, foolish or a lie to you. I hope you feel better soon.

Allow me to respond to your comment later. However, there is a "question" and a "core concept" to the post. The question is "do you really believe that you create your own reality?" To this you did not respond. Nor did you respond to or address the "core concept" repeated below.

how does one purport to reconcile the belief that “I believe I create my on own reality” while “I believe I don’t create my reality"—at least not the unwanted events. If I can live with these conflicting beliefs, am I living with other conflicting beliefs. If one’s thinking is burdened by this dichotomy—these two mutually exclusive beliefs, not to mention other conflicts not consciously known, then how is one’s ability to rationally view reality, intentionally manifest, practice LOA and take action affected? What's the point if you don't clean house and sweep out all the conflicting beliefs before one starts down the path of one's manifestation adventure?

Allow me to share that what is evident from the responses; only one person believes he creates his reality entirely; all others think "not" or their responses were "unresponsive." So, the next question is "if you are not creating your reality, who or what is?

I am perplex by your comments. "Anger" has nothing to do with this post. There's not one angry word in it. As for "dumb, foolish and a lie" I don't know why you use such characterizations--none of these words are used in the post or implied in the post.

I suggest that an exercise designed to highlight that one has conflicting beliefs does not suggest that people are "lying to themselves." To do so from what is written is an unfathomable leap. This is a harsh characterization of a fairly normal human trait (obliviousness to conflicting beliefs) and implies the opposite--that they know they have conflicting beliefs and don't care. The precise point to be made is that people are often oblivious to their beliefs and do not know what they believe because they do not examine their beliefs. And, if they are oblivious to their beliefs, what kind of "truth" can they be living and what kind of "manifestation adventure" can they expect?

Thank you for making me think. I invite you to respond to the "core question" and "core concept" of the original post.

[Merr]

For me this links in to the post written by James about being responsible for our reactions rather than the actions of other people. To say that we create our reality in its entirety is mistaken because quite simply, other people exist in our reality and we cannot always control the outcome of what happens with other people. For example, is a victim of rape creating her own reality? You could argue that the way she dressed, her demeanour, etc, made her more or less likely to be a victim.

However, for the most part, I don't think that anyone would say that a woman created her reality that she would be a victim of rape. What happens after that? Yes, she does have control over that. She can decide whether or not to label herself a 'victim', she can decide whether or not to go to the police, whether to resume her life as normal or to sink into depression.

So as long as there are other people in the world who come into our lives without our permission (as they often do), we won't be 100 per cent responsible for our reality but we will for our reactions.

[Sbonn]

Please allow me to direct your attention to this thread to read.

[beautyscientist]

Nicely put. Of course we don't create our own reality. We are simply mammals that have got a handy line in a well developed prefrontal cortex. Our only choice is what we chose to do with it.

[Strem2]

We all believe what we choose.

I currently have just doubled my Google income, and thanks to hurricane Irene, I know that I had help from the universe/source/creator.

But, believe what you want -- Whatever works for you.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by iraro

The question is "do you really believe that you create your own reality?"

Yes I do.

However, I can already tell from the rest of your post that you and I have a different understanding of the following words in your question -

"you", "create" and "reality".

[iraro]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Yes I do.

However, I can already tell from the rest of your post that you and I have a different understanding of the following words in your question -

"you", "create" and "reality".

This is not meant to be a trick question. I thought I used, and intended to use, the words, "you create your own reality," in a convenional Sethian sense. Seth is unequivocal in his definition. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but Seth says, in effect, "you create all things in your reality; big or small, good or bad." I've never read anything where Seth defines these words except in the ordinary sense.

If one believes that "you create your reality" in a Sethian sense, then there is a serious gap between this belief and the belief that "one only partially creates their reality." The latter statement then "begs the question" --if you don't create your reality then who or what does?

[loapatti]

mmmmm, food for thought and I have thought about if people attract bad things to them as well as good. I don't have the answers.

Not sure if I do create ALL my reality but I do play a starring role in it! So if I indulge in risky behavior, chances are those choices may have a bad effect on me. If I smoke, tan, drink to excess, chances are I may get a disease correlated to those behaviors.

What about being a victim in someones else's reality they created? If someone sets out to rob someone at an atm machine and I happen to be there at the wrong time and place and get robbed, then did I help create it by being a supporting player or was it just coincidence??

I don't know! This stuff gives me a headache trying to figure it out.

[sunshineXTC]

Originally Posted by loapatti

What about being a victim in someones else's reality they created? If someone sets out to rob someone at an atm machine and I happen to be there at the wrong time and place and get robbed, then did I help create it by being a supporting player or was it just coincidence??

I do know that when things undesirable happened to me, I was never in a good place emotionally. I felt things like powerlessness, unworthy, angry, afraid, life is hard, the world's not safe, bad things happen, etc.

Those were the general vicinity of my beliefs whenever unpleasant things happened. It's a real challenge to look at this and not get furious because it really is blaming the victim. No way around that. We don't want to do that because really, it's not very nice. I generally don't think that when I see bad things have happened to others except for one person in my life that lives in the core of misery, gloom and doom. It's hard not to see how she manifests her life on a regular basis, but sadly, the way to get out of it is so far beyond her grasp that whenever I even point out a belief she has that is so far out there anybody in their right mind would question it, she either defends that belief or ignores what I said because she too busy complaining about everything that's wrong and sucks.

When I see undesirable things happen to people, I have compassion for them, and I actually don't leap into thinking how they must have created that. Many, many years ago I did, and only did that because such things terrified me so greatly (the idea that they could happen to me) that I had to go to that place of no compassion to rationalize why it wouldn't/couldn't happen to me. That is always an indicator that you've got beliefs in you that are attracting such things, otherwise you would be able to feel compassion without fear, and you would have no need to 'blame the victim' but would instead be supportive, understanding, and wish them well.

That's my experience. It lines up for me, much as it's not fun to say I brought this on myself. Truth is seeing how you did and fully understanding where you were when that thing happened is the best teaching tool you have, though I'd recommend some time/space between going right into analyzing if you're still dealing with some emotional fallout because of whatever it was that happened.

Above all, we need to embrace our compassion. Feel compassion for others wherever they are. I do it for the person I mentioned above. I don't do it constantly because it's truly draining, but I see how things line up for her, and I do what I can to help lessen her stress when she's headed down one of those dark roads with her thinking, which sadly, she does at the drop of a hat.

So yes, compassion for others. Compassion for ourselves. Without compassion you might as well throw all this create your own reality stuff in the trash because you've lost touch with the most wonderful part of yourself.

[Sponge]

I'm in agreement with Sunshine here. I can think of a time when I used to tell my friends 'I had a black cloud above my head' this was years ago before I knew about all of this Loa stuff. I not only was attracting bad stuff I was complaining about it and in a terrible rutt attracting more and more. A friend of mine has recently had a spate of 'bad luck'. Now, I'm not sure if it's one's focus and people pointing out that bad things happen in 3s or what? But knowing how much stress she has on at the moment I am convinced she is creating this, (her car was broken into a few days ago and for some reason she had left 'everything' in the car...passport, new engagement ring etc'- this is after having a car accident a few weeks ago and various other things going wrong).
The trouble is we do not go around pointing out the good stuff, 'ooh I got to my destination safely' 'ooh I parked my car and nobody robbed me' 'ooh I didn't burn myself today'. We just take it all for granted. So I think being in a state of gratitude really is key. But I don't always remember this myself. I'm starting to wonder if it shouldn't be called the Law of Focus instead. Focus on the colour red for a day and you will see it everywhere.

[lycan]

Do you know a book called "The School for Gods"?

[sunshineXTC]

Originally Posted by Sponge

The trouble is we do not go around pointing out the good stuff, 'ooh I got to my destination safely' 'ooh I parked my car and nobody robbed me' 'ooh I didn't burn myself today'. We just take it all for granted. So I think being in a state of gratitude really is key. But I don't always remember this myself. I'm starting to wonder if it shouldn't be called the Law of Focus instead. Focus on the colour red for a day and you will see it everywhere.

My life has improved quite a bit since I started just appreciating everything I enjoy doing in general. I'm actually amazed at how often I'm going through my day and feel this rush of 'this is so fun' or 'I love this show' or 'those squirrels are so cute' - all kinds of silly stuff. I'm not even sure when I started doing it. I even say it out loud sometimes without even realizing it. That I guess brings more moments like that because it seems like at periodic intervals throughout my day I just randomly appreciate things.

It really shifts things quite nicely so that your days end up being better and better. The overall tone of them shifts. Soon it's rare to be in a down or bad mood. Then all the days are basically good and you're fairly happy overall.

[SkylightMT]

Originally Posted by iraro

This is not meant to be a trick question. I thought I used, and intended to use, the words, "you create your own reality," in a convenional Sethian sense. Seth is unequivocal in his definition. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but Seth says, in effect, "you create all things in your reality; big or small, good or bad." I've never read anything where Seth defines these words except in the ordinary sense.

If one believes that "you create your reality" in a Sethian sense, then there is a serious gap between this belief and the belief that "one only partially creates their reality." The latter statement then "begs the question" --if you don't create your reality then who or what does?

Even Seth implies there are limits. For example, he says if you lose a leg, its impossible to grow a new one within this physical framework.

So I guess, even for Seth, though he doesn't say it, our physicality creates some of our reality. Or at least limits our ability to create. Abraham, on the other hand, does absolutely say there is nothing you cannot be, do, or have.

But pretend "you create your own reality" period. I think the answer lies in the definition of "you."

There's the ego part of You: the thinking, consciously perceiving, interpreting part of you that we generally mean when we say "I."

A little bit more elusive from that is the part of us that isn't so easily accessible to the ego, the part of us that responds with emotion to some trigger that we can barely recognize, if at all, the part that creates our dreams, and the part that identifies someone else as attractive or not attractive for reasons that the brain can't state ("there's just no chemistry!").

Even more elusive is the part of us that is the whole of us; the part Jill Boldt Taylor described when she had her stroke that shut down the analytical part of her brain (My Stroke of Insight by Jill Boldt Taylor) or that some people describe after NDEs (I knew what those around my body were thinking; I knew that we were all the same being).

And beyond that, if you acknowledge that at the very base of things there is no separation and we are all ONE, is a profound and very big "you" which can't even be described as "you" because that "you" has no other that can call it "you." Some people might call this god, some call it infinite intelligence; there's many names I guess.

So maybe we do create our reality completely and utterly, its just that given any particular event its not always easy to know which "you" did the creating.

Of course, what we all want (or most of us) to is have the ego do all the creating. I suspect that the more you are able to feel and connect with the various levels of youness, the more you do create from the ego. Those whose sense of self is limited to whats right in front of them in the here and now would, given this theory, have a harder time creating what they want ego-wise because they are unable to bring all the you's into play.

Have you ever gotten to know fairly closely an alcoholic who is in complete denial of their alcoholism? Its an amazing thing to behold. Denial is incredible. It can be remarkably powerful, this ability of the brain to protect oneself from painful information. An alcoholic in denial isn't lying; isn't secretly trying to fool or convince you - they are absolutely certain of their reality. Their denial is fear-based (to protect them from a painful reality about themselves) but denial in general doesn't have to be fear-based. It could simply be a habit, or the result of cultural or familial influence - but this ability of the mind to shut out certain information prevents the individual from seeing the big picture. Sometimes psychoanalysis is called the practice of making the unconscious conscious. I am talking about the the same thing, this concept of opening to a fuller flow of information and awareness. I believe its possible that an individual who opens to a fuller awareness probably more effectively creates his reality in a way that he recognizes as his own creation.

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by iraro

question is "if you are not creating your reality, who or what is?

Excellent question! - what do you believe?

Originally Posted by iraro

The precise point to be made is that
people are often oblivious to their beliefs and do not know what they believe because
they do not examine their beliefs.
And,
if they are oblivious to their beliefs, what kind of "truth" can they be living and
what kind of "manifestation adventure" can they expect?

Another Good question

[Irisha]

How can we create our own reality?We were created because there is God, Creator. We did not create ourselves. And then we suddenly started creating our reality, because we can have these or those vibes, etc. It is God who makes you have those vibes, who makes you think that it's you who is creating... The Universe is so enormously complicated, an elementary particle is so enormously complicated as well, and we are so powerful that we are able to change them, not to be connected with them on all levels, and create our own reality! Even God is less powerful and not taken into account! Interesting...

[alphamind]

I think what these so called law of attraction gurus fail to realize is that it's been God's will for them to create their own reality (assuming they actually do, since mostly none of them 'attracted' money to themselves before their preachings.) Awareness is required to manifest, so you can actually consciously put into use the metaphysical laws which you possess that are and always have been creating our reality.

So really, I think people give too much credit to themselves. Yes it is our Self creating the reality 24/7, but I doubt everyone is THAT self-aware in order to interfere with the plan.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by iraro

This is not meant to be a trick question. I thought I used, and intended to use, the words, "you create your own reality," in a convenional Sethian sense. Seth is unequivocal in his definition. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but Seth says, in effect, "you create all things in your reality; big or small, good or bad." I've never read anything where Seth defines these words except in the ordinary sense.

Seth also tells you that there are many "you's" existing in parallel universes and "you" are unconsciously or subconsciously tapping on their experiences, knowledge etc in those parallel universes.

Also Seth's theories incorporate reincarnation. So simplistically, we could say that you are born into a particular reality, as a result of thoughts held in the previous lifetime. That deals with the "babies can't think" point.

I use the word "simplistically", because Seth also explains that time is an illusion, and in fact all realities exist simultaneously, so technically there is no such thing as a "past life".

Incidentally, the explanation for why Seth always refers to Jane Roberts as a man (using the masculine pronoun "he" and "him" to refer to Jane) is that Seth knew Jane from another life (or existence) where Jane was a man.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by loapatti

What about being a victim in someones else's reality they created? If someone sets out to rob someone at an atm machine and I happen to be there at the wrong time and place and get robbed, then did I help create it by being a supporting player or was it just coincidence??

In the more absolute versions of LOA theory, we would say that the robber attracted you into his reality, and also that you attracted the robber into yours.

There are no coincidences, except to the extent that you have had random thoughts creating random events.