Are you giving up your good ideas? The battle between your ego and your intuition

[mallie]

Hey Guys,

Ok, on my powerful healing prayer thread, I wrote in a reply to radicalmommy (the reply is at the very bottom) that I almost did NOT post that prayer in a new thread because of my ego and it's limited voice. I have really learned a lot in this situation.

How many of you are talking yourself out of good ideas? How many times do you go to a nightclub (man or woman) and see someone you want to meet but talk yourself out of doing it? How many times do you get an inspiration that just "comes" to you out of the blue - you want to share it with your boss but don't, because you think that he/she will think it is stupid or too expensive. How many times do you want to tell someone you love them and appreciate what they have done for you but don't (esp if you are a guy)?

The list goes on and on! This is a battle between your ego (it's limited voice) and your intuition (which is your all-knowing, all-loving expansive voice). If you keep listening to your ego all the time your life is really truly going to be limited in money, love, relationships, intuition, etc. I still remember a day several months ago when I kept seeing 1133 all day and when I bought some cards it came to $11.33 and I thought - this has to be a sign of lottery numbers I should play. My EGO said "oh you are nuts, there is no such thing as signs and you are just seeing numbers. Forget the lottery you are never going to win - the odds are too high!" I did NOT listen to that stupid ego and played 1 and 3 and 11 and 33 and I ended up getting 4 out of 6 #'s correct. I am glad I did not listen to the ego


I am curious if any of you have had this battle and which voice won? Are you doing anything different now if you were listening to the voice of the ego? Do you think the ego serves any purpose and if so what purpose?



Here is the reply from that thread and here is the entire thread link A very powerful cleansing/freeing/healing prayer for everything!


I am really happy to hear that soooo many people are really feeling shifts and changes as a result of this prayer.... and to think - I had written it and then I was going to delete it before posting it! My rational mind thought - "Oh this is too long of a prayer and people are not going to want to say this really long prayer everyday"

What I just said should be a really good example of your intuition and ego at work (and in a battle with each other). My intuition said "Let's put this prayer that you are going to write for yourself on a new thread for everyone to use and enjoy!" My ego/rational mind kicks in after writing it BEFORE I hit the submit new thread button and says "This is too much and too long - people will think your nuts and probably criticize it because it is too long and wordy. Besides you have been starting way too many threads lately and people will think you are trying to get attention!"

Wow! SHUT UP EGO!! Man is thing wordy and if you listen to it, it really can talk you out of really great ideas! How many of your great ideas has this stupid ego talked you out of? When was the last time you wanted to give someone a hug or expressed that you loved them and thought "Oh I better not - I might get rejected or they might think I am stupid!" You have to have ba**s (with an LL - I don't think that word is appropriate on this forum in this context so I am bleeping it) on this planet and you sometimes have to take the bull by its horns but when you ego gets in the way it can really talk you out of a lot of different things - so just watch this in your own life - otherwise you could overlook a really great life changing prayer or rich idea!

I am glad I did NOT listen to my ego and hit the submit new thread button! Luckily my intuition won or this prayer would not be here! lol!!

[Sponge]

I have just Loved all the posts today! What a great post. I also keep getting told by my ego that I post too much! I am a chatterbox though.

I had a great day today. I just kept telling my ego, who seems to be intent on pointing out how little people care, to shut it! And reaching for that better feeling thought. Well a friend of mine came round with some flowers! Another one called to see how I was, another one said her housewarmingparty wouldn't be the same without me and another one called and was full of compliments (ok there were a few remarks that I had to argue with my ego over).

The only trouble is I keep catching myself talking to myself outloud what with MBOs and telling my Ego to shut it - I may get locked up.

By the way am just watching The World Championships, a South African (Oscar) competing - he doesn't have legs! How inspiring!

[mallie]

Wow Sponge!

I can see by your posts how much you have grown and how much your life is changing for the better since you started posting on this forum. It is really nice to see and very inspiring to others!

The ego really can get in the way and many times has such a convincing voice that so many times we get talked out of our good ideas and good intentions. This is why I wanted to create this new thread just to show everyone that my ego almost talked me out of NOT posting my new prayer thread. This prayer seems to be helping a lot of people so I am becoming a lot more aware of the ego's presence and just how LIMITING its voice really is.

I am now really starting to pay attention and learning to more and more override this limiting voice. The ultimate goal of the soul is to eliminate the ego anyway and become soul/intuitive/love based anyway. The ego really does not know love and tends to push it away especially if you have been hurt in relationships - there is always the fear of getting hurt again. So, I believe that is why a lot of people on this planet have a very hard time expressing any form of love to one another.

You keep talking to yourself sponge! lol! With blue tooth you can do it and people just think you are talking on the phone. Now years ago - they would have thought you were nuts! lol!

[AngelPsychic444]

I am curious if any of you have had this battle and which voice won? Are you doing anything different now if you were listening to the voice of the ego? Do you think the ego serves any purpose and if so what purpose?

The battle of the ego will always be there, I don't think we can eliminate it, the "trick" if you can call it that, to really get a handle on it and live in peace is to shrink it. I got this idea from a few books I read, especially the Carlos Castanda books.

So it's as if you have change your focus from the chattering mind to the quiet mind, in order to tame the ego. Meditation is great for this, also Tolle's books are wonderful too, plus his method of "practicing presense" where you learn to slow down your thoughts and for short periods of time just BE quiet. So meditation and Tolle's books have been my two allies in this stuggle to tame my ego, just in case anyone wishes to know how I manage this.

The ego does have a purpose, and it is to focus us here in this reality and sort of block all the other realities out there from taking our attention away. The ego is sort of an automatic mechanism that does help us, BUT the REAL problem is when you have a "runaway ego" or one that takes over your life. I think that might be really what you're talking about mallie.

Some people can tame the ego somewhat easily, others have to struggle, no matter the case, it IS a good idea obviously to calm it down and allow our true selves to come through. Like you said our intuition can finally speak to us then...and that's such a true statement.

So there are methods out there now to help someone calm that ego down, and you have to remember, the modern society we live in constantly boost's the ego, which makes it super tough for us to change, so we have alot of "forces" from society and probably other places working against us....that might be the real problem.

[Sponge]

Thanks Maillie, it has been a frustrating and difficult time for me personally. Everyone has their own ideas and experiences of what works, and finding what works for you is probably key. I am really just playing around with all these ideas, but all I can say is that yesterday when I took the fight internally instead of externally I seemed to make progress and more than that it felt good. Like I finally realised what the problem was. So along with my MBOs and subliminal msges I will continue to 'tame' this Ego of mine. It has been responsible for A Lot if unecessary suffering in my life and recognising the issue and the fact that nothing I was reading and putting into practice was working, made me feel worse. I thank Sunshine for reminding me to pick up Tolle's book again (I wasn't ready for it at all a few yrs ago when I bought it). And I thank you and the numerous other people who take time to post, even though I can often feel confused (evident from my posts and my up and down emotions) it all gets me thinking and that can only be a good thing. This may sound silly but I honestly wasn't really sure if I had any intuition, well not quite true as have evidence of tapping into it, but I was just so out of touch with my feelings due to my 'monkey mind', everything I was doing felt like band-aid solutions that offered temporary relief, but yesterday after reading your post and others it felt different. To me this is the 'aligning' part.

Also we have had a Great week with our new business and we have begun looking at coffee machines (something I was trying to manifest) so I really think the MBOs are working.

[mallie]

So it's as if you have change your focus from the chattering mind to the quiet mind, in order to tame the ego. Meditation is great for this, also Tolle's books are wonderful too, plus his method of "practicing presense" where you learn to slow down your thoughts and for short periods of time just BE quiet. So meditation and Tolle's books have been my two allies in this stuggle to tame my ego, just in case anyone wishes to know how I manage this.

Hi AP,

I love the way you always explain things so thoroughly! I am going to try slowing down my thoughts. My mind tends to go fifty miles an hour. No wonder the angels can't get thru! lol! I do have a chattering mind and a very analytical mind and boy does it get exhausting. I have never really been able to meditate and that's been my problem because I have a hard time just sitting and doing nothing. I know my mind will kick in and start telling me I am wasting a bunch of time just sitting and doing nothing. It already does this with sleep! lol! Luckily the sleep is winning out. Although with all this ascension energy I have been getting by many nights on 5-6 hrs of sleep and before - like last year I needed at least 8. I will try meditating or at the very least slowing down my thoughts. I know when I do slow down my thoughts I get a lot more psychic info coming thru.

The ego does have a purpose, and it is to focus us here in this reality and sort of block all the other realities out there from taking our attention away. The ego is sort of an automatic mechanism that does help us, BUT the REAL problem is when you have a "runaway ego" or one that takes over your life. I think that might be really what you're talking about mallie.

Yes, I think it is - a "runaway ego" and that is the biggest problem and really causes a lot of problems. It looks like the ego does serve some purpose so I guess to completely eliminate it would probably not be a good idea - I think just calming it down so that it is not the "star" of the show is better.

Some people can tame the ego somewhat easily, others have to struggle, no matter the case, it IS a good idea obviously to calm it down and allow our true selves to come through. Like you said our intuition can finally speak to us then...and that's such a true statement.

So there are methods out there now to help someone calm that ego down, and you have to remember, the modern society we live in constantly boost's the ego, which makes it super tough for us to change, so we have alot of "forces" from society and probably other places working against us....that might be the real problem.

Well, with all the ascension happening I think more and more people will be letting their intuition come forth as opposed to the ego. With all the earth changes you almost have to calm the ego so you can listen to spirit and angels who speak thru intuition and not ego!

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Thanks Maillie, it has been a frustrating and difficult time for me personally. Everyone has their own ideas and experiences of what works, and finding what works for you is probably key. I am really just playing around with all these ideas, but all I can say is that yesterday when I took the fight internally instead of externally I seemed to make progress and more than that it felt good. Like I finally realised what the problem was. So along with my MBOs and subliminal msges I will continue to 'tame' this Ego of mine. It has been responsible for A Lot if unecessary suffering in my life and recognising the issue and the fact that nothing I was reading and putting into practice was working, made me feel worse. I thank Sunshine for reminding me to pick up Tolle's book again (I wasn't ready for it at all a few yrs ago when I bought it). And I thank you and the numerous other people who take time to post, even though I can often feel confused (evident from my posts and my up and down emotions) it all gets me thinking and that can only be a good thing. This may sound silly but I honestly wasn't really sure if I had any intuition, well not quite true as have evidence of tapping into it, but I was just so out of touch with my feelings due to my 'monkey mind', everything I was doing felt like band-aid solutions that offered temporary relief, but yesterday after reading your post and others it felt different. To me this is the 'aligning' part.

Also we have had a Great week with our new business and we have begun looking at coffee machines (something I was trying to manifest) so I really think the MBOs are working.

Sponge, I am glad things are starting to show you that change is happening.. this is very positive!

You are learning to let go and get out of your own way .. please give yourself time and I would like to remind you to be gentle with yourself too.. and BIG HUGS.. remember to pat yourself on your back, you are making progress even if it feels like a baby step or a step or two back it is still progress.

[mallie]

Thanks Maillie, it has been a frustrating and difficult time for me personally. Everyone has their own ideas and experiences of what works, and finding what works for you is probably key. I am really just playing around with all these ideas,

Hi sponge,

I know your frustration! I am still trying to figure things out! I think manifesting what you want is mult-faceted. It isn't just ONE thing that works - it is the combined factor of everything working together. For instance most people find doing just affirmations do not really work for them or brings them limited results. That's because most people have a hugh slew of other blocks (as you can see by my revealing posts) that need to be healed and released. I compare this to peeling back the layers of an onion. The more layers you peel back, the better your life starts to get - but there is usually always more layers to pull back and heal. Don't ask me when it stops! lol!

Intuition will guide you to the perfect things to work on, the right books, teachers, healers, etc. The best way to get more clairity in your intuition is to clean out your chakras and doreen virtue has a chakra clearing mp3 I use 1x per day (I am going to start using it 2x's per day as there is a am and pm meditation)

[mallie]

I just got an informative message from sbonn in a pm right now and she says very clearly:

I think god is telling you to love everything and appreciate it even if it is showing contrast ( getting you into moods) appreciate that you are being shown contrast to help you define better what you want. Plus just love .. love the job you have right now so you can win the lottery.. I dont think it all goes into women and your mom or men.. I think hes saying love yourself.. love your carpet love your couch love your wine love the glass its in love everything.. show love period in the present.. yeah its a bit big to get around .. I bet you are going love my carpet !!??!! LOL yes love your carpet! Love it all and really come from your heart. Love it and appreciate everything you have because they are all serving you now..

BIG HUGS


PS I think the beatles said what god wanted you to hear best thats why I posted the song!

Thanks Sbonn,

I also think God and the angels guide all of you to also tell ME what I need to hear! I do need to work on this - I still have this love/hate contrast in my life. Boy, this is hard to overcome sometime. I love all the new things I want to manifest - but I am still expressing negative feelings over my old life. I am trying to clean it up more, but you know sometimes when you are tired it is hard to do - but I am so motivated to get out of this old life and live my new life that I will try expressing more love and gratitude. I gotta tell you - it is hard to love the old since you want it to leave. I am going to try this and practice gratitude more often and see if it opens new channels of money and frees me up from this lack and limitation.

[mallie]

I just got an informative message from sbonn in a pm right now and she says very clearly:

I think god is telling you to love everything and appreciate it even if it is showing contrast ( getting you into moods) appreciate that you are being shown contrast to help you define better what you want. Plus just love .. love the job you have right now so you can win the lottery.. I dont think it all goes into women and your mom or men.. I think hes saying love yourself.. love your carpet love your couch love your wine love the glass its in love everything.. show love period in the present.. yeah its a bit big to get around .. I bet you are going love my carpet !!??!! LOL yes love your carpet! Love it all and really come from your heart. Love it and appreciate everything you have because they are all serving you now..

BIG HUGS


PS I think the beatles said what god wanted you to hear best thats why I posted the song!

Thanks Sbonn,

I also think God and the angels guide all of you to also tell ME what I need to hear! I do need to work on this - I still have this love/hate contrast in my life. Boy, this is hard to overcome sometime. I love all the new things I want to manifest - but I am still expressing negative feelings over my old life. I am trying to clean it up more, but you know sometimes when you are tired it is hard to do - but I am so motivated to get out of this old life and live my new life that I will try expressing more love and gratitude. I gotta tell you - it is hard to love the old since you want it to leave. I am going to try this and practice gratitude more often and see if it opens new channels of money and frees me up from this lack and limitation.

[Sponge]

Great messages, thanks guys. Angelpsychic I realise what you mean, I'll have to now work on a less judgmental approach to my ego, I think this will just happen as I learn to listen and silence my mind more. It is definately true that what you resist persists.

[Merr]

Mallie- This happens to me all of the time. Literally, every single day I face a battle between the ego and intuition. There are several threads on issues of discussion which interest me which I have nearly started but did not. The problem for me is (and suspect that this is true for a lot of other people) that I cannot always tell the difference between the two. Sometimes I get so bogged down with different thoughts that I can no longer distinguish the ego from my intuition.

[AngelPsychic444]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Great messages, thanks guys. Angelpsychic I realise what you mean, I'll have to now work on a less judgmental approach to my ego, I think this will just happen as I learn to listen and silence my mind more. It is definately true that what you resist persists.

That's a very good point Sponge, as you said a less judgemental approach to your ego is best, so many people out there think they have to beat down the ego, when in reality, what you really need to do is quiet the mind THEN the ego will naturally just slow down and not give you so much trouble.

So that's the answer, put all your attention on a quiet mind, slowing down your thoughts, meditation, and so forth and take your attention off struggling with the ego.

Eckart Tolle, has a book called "Stillness Speaks", it's a very short and small book and it's main purpose, as outline in the introductiong by Tolle, is to quiet your mind. He said in the book that when we wrote it he was in a very quiet mind state, and that silence is transferd to the reader as they read. So you could look at this book as a "tool" to help quiet your mind, Tolle even said that just holding the book in your hands can have a silencing effect....so I would highly recommend looking into this book, but do use other methods in addition to this book, come at it from all directions, that's the best plan!

[Silenced140]

Thanks so much for this post. I just realized what you are saying. I've just decided to go back to the Guess store and see this girl that I've been thinking about lately.

[mallie]

Thanks so much for this post. I just realized what you are saying. I've just decided to go back to the Guess store and see this girl that I've been thinking about lately.

Hi silenced 140

Thanks! If your gut feeling is to go for it then I would do it! Just so you know I met a guy on another forum and in less than 2 weeks I just knew we were soulmates. This was just a gut feeling I had. Now most people would probably think I was nuts (especially since I told him I felt like we were soulmates and he agreed) to even feel that way - but not only did I have a VERY strong gut feeling of this - I also got 3 different signs from my angels confirming this was true. So if you are following your strong gut feelings regarding this girl, then absolutely do not hold back and I would pursue it. You never know - she could be your soulmate.

[vinceh]

"The problem for me is (and suspect that this is true for a lot of other people) that I cannot always tell the difference between the two. Sometimes I get so bogged down with different thoughts that I can no longer distinguish the ego from my intuition."

From Ask Deepak (emphasis mine):

"What is the difference or relationship between intuiting something and manifesting/co-creating something? (And how does the Law of Attraction come into play?)

When we have an intuition about something, we are sensing through our subtle perception something that is outside of or independent of ourself. That is, we are seeing or knowing something that we are not creating. Manifesting through our intentions is the active process of creating something we want that is not there. The law of attraction obviously comes into play during manifestation when our thoughts attract similar forces in the environment to form our desire. It is less obvious that the law of attraction can also affect our intuition by coloring our subtle perception with our hopes and dreams to where it is not always apparent whether the vision is what actually there or what you subconsciously hope is there. The part of you that is deeply desiring your intuition to be real is actually trying to create it and that makes the intuition unreliable as a simple means of gaining knowledge. This is why the best intuitives know themselves well and remain fundamentally objective about what they see.

Question:How can you identify intuition from wishful thinking (hope) or fear? And what is the relationship between intuition, synchronicity and manifesting your desire in the presence of obstacles coming up? I loved your book How to Know God!

Simple and accurate intuition is devoid of fear or hope. Intuition presents itself independent of our anxiety and anticipation. Synchronicity is a kind of external intuition where we glimpse the orchestrated workings of cosmic intelligence around us. Manifesting our desires or intentions is a different phenomenon altogether. It involves sending a request to the universal intelligence in the silence of our awareness and then allowing it to fulfill that intention according to your highest purpose. Any obstacles in this process from the individual would involve blocks in awareness that prevent the experience of pure consciousness. Other obstacles would involve the proper timing for the fulfillment of the desire. But that isn’t really an obstacle as much as it is a lack of understanding of how our desires need to be coordinated with others in our environment.

[AngelPsychic444]

"The problem for me is (and suspect that this is true for a lot of other people) that I cannot always tell the difference between the two. Sometimes I get so bogged down with different thoughts that I can no longer distinguish the ego from my intuition."

Yes that is the #1 problem with most people, so you are correct, when you say that telling the difference between intuition and the ego isn't easy.

The answer you're looking for is to spend more time trying to quiet your mind, such as in meditation. "A quiet mind is an intuitive mind"...is such a true statement. I've had my best "hits" as far as intuition goes, when my mind was very quiet and I'm sure if more people observed themselves AS they get intuitive hits, they will notice this too. So DO spend more time meditating or spending time "practicing presense" as Tolle call's it, when you just silence your mind throughout the day.

Also, read lot's of books on intuition, that will help give you many, many ideas on HOW to tell the difference between the your intuition and yout thoughts. My one recommendation in this area is the book "Practical Intuition" by Laura Day...I've read this book several times and love it... she gives out fantastic hints all throughout the book, I learned alot from her!