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Now123 · 07-21-2011, 03:18 AM

So Abe Hicks tells us to focus on thoughts that feel vibrationally good.

What about thoughts that feel good, but are far or the OPPOSITE of the ideal manifestation you want to happen?

For example, I like this girl, and I would like to have her for myself or someone like her. And focusing on thoughs about us together does bring me into some vibrational alignment but focusing on thoughts about her being happy with another guy, puts me alive and in a euphoric state. However even though it vibrationally feels good to focus on thoughts of her with another guy, I don't really want that to manifest in reality.

So what do I do? continue to focus on thoughts that feel good, even though they appear to be quite the opposite of what I want manifested? what will manifest if I do?

Rezzy7 · 07-21-2011, 04:34 AM

I don't know if what you're experience makes complete sense to me. You're more euphoric about her being with some other person? Hmm. I can't relate: the best I can do is feel ok about a girl I like being with another dude, but the best feel is the thoughts of her with me. Maybe that's a nudge for you to pursue someone else?

Anyway, as Abe says, you'll get what you focus on, whether you want it or not.

Regardless, if you do focus on the thoughts that keep you in the highest vibe, chances are good things will abound and you could end up saying, "it's all good."

Anagogy · 07-21-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Now123

So Abe Hicks tells us to focus on thoughts that feel vibrationally good.

What about thoughts that feel good, but are far or the OPPOSITE of the ideal manifestation you want to happen?

For example, I like this girl, and I would like to have her for myself or someone like her. And focusing on thoughs about us together does bring me into some vibrational alignment but focusing on thoughts about her being happy with another guy, puts me alive and in a euphoric state.

Can you explain why imagining her with someone else makes you feel so euphoric? I find this quite curious. Analyze it carefully, you might learn something valuable.

High The Memory · 07-21-2011, 04:35 PM

This is just a crazy shot in the dark, but could it be that this other guy you see is just you, after some kind of change? What kind of characteristics does this other man have, and are they characteristics that you could see yourself working towards where you would come out as a better person by the end?

OptimistPrime · 07-22-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Now123

So what do I do? continue to focus on thoughts that feel good, even though they appear to be quite the opposite of what I want manifested?

That's what I would do, but that's because I believe my soul communicates its desires to my conscious mind through my feelings/intuition, and a big goal of mine is to bring my conscious desires into harmony with my soul's desires.

SkylightMT · 07-22-2011, 09:24 PM

I couldn't say for sure because I'm not that familiar yet with all the Abe material, but I'm sure this question has come up before, in other forms:

What about a person who finds happiness by imagining (insert some crime here: murder, pedophilia, etc). Should that person indulge that visualization or not?

I think Abe would say a person could not be in the vortex and enjoy such fantasies. You could not be in the vortex and enjoy fantasies of her with another guy, because that is at odds with what you really want. You must not be in the vortex while imagining such things. So get in the vortex, then do your visualizations.

I think that is what the Abe commentary would be.

But I think, as a previous poster pointed out, that you are enjoying those fantasies of her with another guy is good opportunity to find something deeper in yourself that may be preventing you from aligning with a relationship with this girl. It kind of sounds like maybe you don't think you are worthy, but another guy might be worthy. Or you are afraid of directly experiencing intimacy - maybe its too intense or too scary. Or maybe you want what is best for this girl, even if that means its another person.

In any case, I don't think you should try to stop visualizing what feels good to you. But I do think you can use it to bring more awareness about yourself.

Silenced140 · 07-23-2011, 05:44 AM

That other guy should be you. I'm in the same boat your in bro, I want both of us to succeed so I'm going to have to command that you get with that beautiful girl

07-21-2011, 03:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Now123 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 62	Help: Thoughts that feel good, but are far or the OPPOSITE of the ideal manifesta So Abe Hicks tells us to focus on thoughts that feel vibrationally good. What about thoughts that feel good, but are far or the OPPOSITE of the ideal manifestation you want to happen? For example, I like this girl, and I would like to have her for myself or someone like her. And focusing on thoughs about us together does bring me into some vibrational alignment but focusing on thoughts about her being happy with another guy, puts me alive and in a euphoric state. However even though it vibrationally feels good to focus on thoughts of her with another guy, I don't really want that to manifest in reality. So what do I do? continue to focus on thoughts that feel good, even though they appear to be quite the opposite of what I want manifested? what will manifest if I do?

07-21-2011, 04:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rezzy7 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West Coast USA Posts: 783	I don't know if what you're experience makes complete sense to me. You're more euphoric about her being with some other person? Hmm. I can't relate: the best I can do is feel ok about a girl I like being with another dude, but the best feel is the thoughts of her with me. Maybe that's a nudge for you to pursue someone else? Anyway, as Abe says, you'll get what you focus on, whether you want it or not. Regardless, if you do focus on the thoughts that keep you in the highest vibe, chances are good things will abound and you could end up saying, "it's all good." Last edited by Rezzy7; 07-21-2011 at 04:37 AM.

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07-21-2011, 04:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
High The Memory Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 38	This is just a crazy shot in the dark, but could it be that this other guy you see is just you, after some kind of change? What kind of characteristics does this other man have, and are they characteristics that you could see yourself working towards where you would come out as a better person by the end?

07-22-2011, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
SkylightMT Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 267	I couldn't say for sure because I'm not that familiar yet with all the Abe material, but I'm sure this question has come up before, in other forms: What about a person who finds happiness by imagining (insert some crime here: murder, pedophilia, etc). Should that person indulge that visualization or not? I think Abe would say a person could not be in the vortex and enjoy such fantasies. You could not be in the vortex and enjoy fantasies of her with another guy, because that is at odds with what you really want. You must not be in the vortex while imagining such things. So get in the vortex, then do your visualizations. I think that is what the Abe commentary would be. But I think, as a previous poster pointed out, that you are enjoying those fantasies of her with another guy is good opportunity to find something deeper in yourself that may be preventing you from aligning with a relationship with this girl. It kind of sounds like maybe you don't think you are worthy, but another guy might be worthy. Or you are afraid of directly experiencing intimacy - maybe its too intense or too scary. Or maybe you want what is best for this girl, even if that means its another person. In any case, I don't think you should try to stop visualizing what feels good to you. But I do think you can use it to bring more awareness about yourself.

07-23-2011, 05:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
Silenced140 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 443	That other guy should be you. I'm in the same boat your in bro, I want both of us to succeed so I'm going to have to command that you get with that beautiful girl

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