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Old 07-03-2011, 09:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I've been interested in LOA for several years now, and every resource that I've read says not to focus on a specific person when you're trying to manifest something. Why is this? For everything else, they tell you to be as specific as possible to speed manifestation. Supposedly trying to manifest something with another person would violate the other's free will, but what if you're on the same wavelength to begin with? Sorry if I'm being a little unclear, but this has me profoundly confused! Any guidance would be much appreciated.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, it helps being detached, so if you have a specific person in mind whose reactions you can observe, you are likely to build some inner resistance. abraham hicks has some interesting points on that YouTube - ‪abraham hicks relationships‬‏
check the videos, you might recieve some clarity from them.

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Imagine what you want, imagine how it would feel (as much as you can) and most importantly (something i got "wrong" a lot): ALWAYS enjoy yourself, your potential partner, your life, the food, everything. RELAX, see what happens, enjoy what is, stay eager for more. Keep your frequency high. Always and without exception act on inspiration, come from a place of love. It's not about that one person anyways, but might as well be.

I hope this is helpful to you.

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Old 07-04-2011, 12:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Holy crap you're hot.

Just try to manifest me. I promise it will work.
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You can try visualizing yourself in my PM box, or doing affirmations.

Okayyyy lets try this... now.
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Either visualize the type of person you want , or if you want a person , get to know that person better. Make sure there realy the person you think they are before you do any kind of visualzation on then. A lady did a love spell on this guy and he raped her. desert rat
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A lady did a love spell on this guy and he raped her.
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Usually because a connection already exists between the two people. Manifestation isn't like a smartbomb, it's not going to fly directly into the window of its target and blow up all their resistances to a relationship with you.

A relationship doesn't take any work to create, it exists as soon as the connection is made. If you want a connection with that hot chick in your English class, the manifestation happens as soon as she sees you. There's no guarantee that the connection will be close, or that she'll be in love with you. The only guarantee is that she will know who you are. That's all you'll get, and honestly, that's all you should really want.

You really shouldn't want her to love you against her will. That way lies hell.
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I read that in a book , I assume it is a true story. The point is think before acting. Its called the law of unintened concquinces. desert rat
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Hi all,

I've been interested in LOA for several years now, and every resource that I've read says not to focus on a specific person when you're trying to manifest something. Why is this? For everything else, they tell you to be as specific as possible to speed manifestation. Supposedly trying to manifest something with another person would violate the other's free will, but what if you're on the same wavelength to begin with? Sorry if I'm being a little unclear, but this has me profoundly confused! Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Actually, you can attract a specific person if you really wanted to, and were in perfect alignment with them (that is to say, in perfect alignment with what they are attracting). You could become a vibrational match to a specific individual... But are you sure you want to? Allow me to 'splain:

It is my opinion that the reason one is often advised not to visualize a specific person is because it is often self defeating. It is self defeating in the fact that becoming a vibrational match to what they are attracting often means getting out of alignment with who you really are, as pure positive source energy. There is also a kind of "lack consciousness" attached to the idea of attracting a specific individual. It's almost like saying to the universe, "There aren't any more individuals in the world who possess the qualities I desire in a mate, so I have to have THIS one." Also, you have to consider where they are vibrating. How much resistance do they have? How much negativity do they have in their life? Do I really want to become a vibrational match to that? These are questions you may want to consider.

It is a far more satisfying experience to get feeling good and in alignment with your expanded self, and then, under those circumstances, attract a mate. Because that person will be a perfect match to you. You won't have to go back and work out the kinks in that relationship, because the law of attraction would have only matched you up with somebody who was a perfect vibrational match to what you were really wanting.

In the other circumstance, you may successfully become a vibrational match to the specific individual you had your sights on, only to realize afterwards it was not the dream boat you had in mind.

Now it is possible that that individual you are desiring is a perfect match for you, in which case, getting in alignment consistently with your higher emotions and higher self would cause you to be brought together. So again, your work is simply to find thoughts and beliefs which agree with your desires and practice traveling those thought ways until you become a perfect vibrational match to your desire.

Focusing on thoughts which makes you feel better, will always attract more experiences that match that feeling better. But simply intending to be with a specific individual does not make that same promise with you, so happiness isn't necessarily a condition of that manifestation.
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This made me chuckle cuz I was thinking the same thing .
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Hi all,

I've been interested in LOA for several years now, and every resource that I've read says not to focus on a specific person when you're trying to manifest something. Why is this? For everything else, they tell you to be as specific as possible to speed manifestation. Supposedly trying to manifest something with another person would violate the other's free will, but what if you're on the same wavelength to begin with? Sorry if I'm being a little unclear, but this has me profoundly confused! Any guidance would be much appreciated.
I think context has much to do with what you've heard. It's fine to think about someone and try to have them contact you (like a friend you haven't seen in a while). To try and have someone do your bidding, moves you closer to that line you should not cross.

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TO set about getting rich in a scientific way, you do not try to apply your will power to anything outside of yourself.

You have no right to do so, anyway.

It is wrong to apply your will to other men and women, in order to get them to do what you wish done.

It is as flagrantly wrong to coerce people by mental power as it is to coerce them by physical power. If compelling people by physical force to do things for you reduces them to slavery, compelling them by mental means accomplishes exactly the same thing; the only difference is in methods. If taking things from people by physical force is robbery, then taking things by mental force is robbery also; there is no difference in principle.

You have no right to use your will power upon another person, even "for his own good"; for you do not know what is for his good. The science of getting rich does not require you to apply power or force to any other person, in any way whatsoever. There is not the slightest necessity for doing so; indeed, any attempt to use your will upon others will only tend to defeat your purpose.

You do not need to apply your will to things, in order to compel them to come to you.
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I don't think being specific with a particular person in mind is harmful. What it may do however, is you may become too attached to the outcome and that will slow the manifesting process.

Whether the person's free will be in jeopardy or not will depend on the model of reality you subscribe to. If you assume subjective reality then everyone is a dream character and you have created them.

In any case, it would be interesting to see what happens if you do it with a specific person in mind. Worst case, you may get the connection with a twin.
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I manifested my first girlfriend using LOA and focusing on a specific person.

(shrugs) I think the first step is to make note of any factors that might impede a possible relationship. Are you both single and looking? If so, then I don't see the problem in attempting a detailed intention.
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I wasn't aware that it isn't possible. As it's worked for me countless times. It's easier for some people than others. You just need practice and focus.

Perhaps you've heard the story I told on a previous thread a few months ago ?

During my freshman year of HS, There was this smoking hot girl that was a senior. I mean she was beautiful and I wanted her bad. The only problem was that I wasn't a super outgoing person that just walks up and talks to girls. I wanted her to come to me. So that's where I employed a bit of mental influence.

By focusing on the person in your mind and sending intentions to them or telling them something, it somehow reaches them at a subconscious level as far as I understand it.

So during the day in my classes while everyone else was doing their work, I was in a light trance constantly thinking about this girl and holding her in my arms, and kissing her and stuff like that.

Within days, I noticed at track practice she would be looking at me. I would turn around and immediately make eye contact and she would look away quickly. She had obviously developed an interest Nothing ever came out if it though because I was still to shy to talk to girls. But if I only had that time back nowadays... We could have made something out of it.
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Holy crap you're hot.

Just try to manifest me. I promise it will work.

Hahahhaha goddammit you just made my day.
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Lightbulb Cooking metaphor.

What happens is that you keep your options open if you keep the two manifestations separate.

For example, I have a relationship with "Jane." I love her and think that it would be great to be with her, despite certain obstacles, like her significant other. Now, right now we are friends, but the kind of friend I feel strongly about. There is an ideal form for that relationship.

On the other hand, I have my desire for a love life. There is an ideal form for my love life.

When I start manifesting, I want to keep these two soups in separate pots as long as necessary. I look over the "recipe" for my love life, and I start to examine the "ingredient" to see if they fit. What if I blend them too soon? Well, I could find out that "Jane" really belongs in a different "recipe" after I've committed to this "soup." I've now "ruined" both my relationship with Jane and my love life, creating something far, far less than I could have created.

BTW True story, names changed to protect the innocent. ;-) Result: No love life, extra years single; "Jane" and I rarely talk...

So follow the guidelines. When dreaming up your love life, draw from your heart, not from the real world. When planning what can happen with a specific person, draw from what you know and feel about him. The result will be that you will be happy with both things, even if they end up being the same.

Or to use Kevin Trudeau's example: Joe likes Mary. He wants Mary. But what he doesn't know is that, in a week, he will meet Susan. Susan will be 100 times better than Mary, but Joe doesn't know that. Now he can use LOA to get Mary, but if he just intends to manifest the best possible, he will be MUCH better off.

(Example adapted from "Your Wish Is Your Command" recorded by Kevin Trudeau.)
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Think of it like this.

The law of attraction works like a giant Craigslist with analytical powers. A matchmaker run through the subconscious and superconscious minds.

To do what the instructors say is to place an ad on the general network. The matchmaker will find the proper match from thousands of people with similar interests.

To think of a specific person is to "Cold Call" and "Hard Sell." You want your transaction from a specific person. Now, you can't destroy their free will, only your own; so if you aren't willing to break the deal you have to take whatever they offer.

So you have a choice: Deal with the person who really wants your offer or mutilate your offer till it becomes one that they will agree to? Either strategy works, and we need them both; but whenever possible, go for the broader marketplace.

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Thanks guys, you've given me a few laughs and a few things to think about. It's true that trying to manifest a connection with a specific person will often make you more tied to the outcome, especially if pretty strong emotions are involved. Remaining detached is probably my biggest obstacle with the Law of Attraction. I'm very stubborn and when I want something, I want it now I'll be working on that!
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Who's kidding? lol

I wanna put some sunshineee in your liiiiiife

Forget that dude you're LoAing :P

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Maybe it works like this:

xkcd: Mutual
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I would say it is the result of deeply held beliefs that most people have about the nature of "other" people. These beliefs see them as being something separate from you, and therefore make it impossible to effectively manifest that connection. Just a thought.
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