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Old 04-22-2007, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Positive thoughts 100 times more powerful than negative ones?

What is this belief based on?
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What is this belief based on?
Sadly no… it might even be the other way around… positive thoughts intends to build… and negative ones lead to stagnation… and it is always more difficult to build than it is to destroy…

It is even said that it takes something like eighteen positive suggestions to negate a negative one… (not certain as to the exact number…)

Take as an example… if someone tells you that you are fat… how many times will you have to be said that you are not in order to eradicate that negative suggestion from your mind???… that is, if there was a slight doubt in your mind…

If positive thoughts were more powerful… it would be extremely easy to be positive all the time… but… we all know that this is not the case...

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Old 04-22-2007, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I heard that somewhere too - I think it was in the secret.

When I heard it, it sounded like one of those arbitrary statistics people make up to bolster their claim.

See also:

"99.99 percent of the time" and "the vast majority of people" for related examples of quasi-stats.
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I heard that somewhere too - I think it was in the secret.

When I heard it, it sounded like one of those arbitrary statistics people make up to bolster their claim.

See also:

"99.99 percent of the time" and "the vast majority of people" for related examples of quasi-stats.
Do you have links for: "99.99 percent of the time" and "the vast majority of people"...???

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Old 04-22-2007, 07:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Read "Power vs. Force", it's clearly stated/discussed in there. Not just 100 times, more like millions of times too :P

That's why the positive power of one avatar balances out the negativity of all of mankind.
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Old 04-23-2007, 02:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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What is actually said in the secret is that an affirmative thought is more powerful than a negative thought. So focusing on figure is more powerful than focusing on ground.

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So focusing on figure is more powerful than focusing on ground.

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Sorry... but I don't understand what you mean by that...

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Energy is neither positive or negative.

Happy thoughts make you feel good, negative thoughts make you feel sad, but it's a misconception that the type of thought delivers better intention manifestation.

Hitler achieved many massive things, but I don't remember him being an overly happy, positive person like that Tony Robbins Guru Guy.

Choice is more important than any thought, until you've made a fundamental choice to do something, all the happy thoughts in the universe won't make it happen.

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For more info on beliefs... you may want to check this...

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Antony Robbins, in his book, "Awaken the Giant Within" has this to say about beliefs...

77. …our beliefs are driven by our generalizations about what we’ve learned could lead to pain and pleasure.

78. We need to remember that most of our beliefs are generalizations about our past, based on our interpretations of painful and pleasurable experiences. The challenge is threefold: 1) most of us do not consciously decide what we’re going to believe; 2) often our beliefs are based on misinterpretation of past experiences; and 3) once we adopt a belief, we forget it’s merely an interpretation. We begin to treat our beliefs as if they’re realities, as if they are gospel. In fact, we rarely, if ever, question our long-held beliefs. If you ever wonder why people do what they do, again, you need to remember that human beings are not random creatures: all of our actions are the result of our beliefs.

78. Beliefs have the power to create and the power to destroy.

83. The question is: which one of these beliefs is the true belief? The answer is that it doesn’t matter which one is true. What matters is which one is most empowering.

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Old 04-23-2007, 10:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It is wrong to ask if a positive intention is more powerful than a negative one. Who is to say what is positive and what is negative? I am a keen gardener and I want (intend) it to rain tomorrow. My neighbor is a golfer and he wants (intends) it to be sunny. Whose intention is positive and whose is negative?

It is just another case of charlatans telling gullable people what they want to hear. Its all happy and roses. Positive outweighs negative. Good beats evil. The battle was won 2000 years ago. The story has many forms. People love it and pay lots of money to hear it.
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if as it is asserted that a positive thought is more powerful

then this still applies as it is MAINTAINING the positive thought that is the difficult thing to do

So you sit and think happy thoughts for 5 minutes during an affirmations session and then for the rest of the day you have thousands of thoughts to the contrary

so thijs theory can still hold and be true and explain why our desires aren't always answered

changing your predominant thoughts to this level is probabl;y one of the most difficult things to achieve

but that is just my belief
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It is wrong to ask if a positive intention is more powerful than a negative one. Who is to say what is positive and what is negative? I am a keen gardener and I want (intend) it to rain tomorrow. My neighbor is a golfer and he wants (intends) it to be sunny. Whose intention is positive and whose is negative?
One makes you feel bad, one makes you feel good.
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well, most of us here know that we are not our thoughts. Since that mind never really shuts up, you cant do nothing but listen.And when it starts feeding me ************, I just laugh of how stupid the human mind is sometimes. In psychology it is called System 1, or heuristics based thinking. The reason its hard to stop thinking is because our mind is like a domino, lots of associations, and one's you think one thing, another related thing automatically gets activated. All in all that was system 1. Uncontrolled thinking.
System 2, is slow, logical system, which is very accurate. You cannot activate it deliberately, enough hints must be given to you, before your brain activates it manually, with training thou, you can start using it more and more often. The only way is to condition yourself. All in all, I went to far away off topic here, but point is, lol, i forgot. =]
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