Why the secret sucked

[Mr.Mustache]

The secret sucked because it was far too simplistic, as is the law of attraction concept. I also think that The Secret may trivailize the root of its message because it isn't grounded enough because its mostly feel good motivation without any real depth. Although I do agree with its basic message The Secret distorts so it is mainstream friendly, not that those ideas shouldn't be mainstream but that the message shouldn't be compromised to fit in with it.

My first problem with the film is this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ quantum mechanics explaination. These people probabley don't understand the basic concepts of quantum mechanics. This is obvious because quantum physics does not in any way imply the LoA. The film tries to explain its message by still subscribing to an objective model of reality which is frankly impossible. Either you believe everything is a cosmic accident or you don't plain and simple. But these pundits water it down by distorting the facts.

My second is that The Secret doesn't have much valuable material. Its basically: hey we can solve all your problems, just write what you want down and feel good about it. Well there would be no suffering if it was that simple. Emotional mastery, the confidence to make worthwhile decisions and follow through, understanding your beliefs and changing them etc. is not that simple.

My third is the law of attraction concept itself. First of all it is not "The Secret to Life" this is laughable. There is no deep dark secret to life you know the solution to your problem right now although you may not be fully aware of it. The law of attraction for the most part isn't true. For example the statement that if you feel afraid of something what you are afraid of will happen or if you feel good about something that thing will happen. NOT TRUE. Or it isn' the whole truth.

You do choose what you experience but you don't choose with what you feel, your choice is determined by how you deal with your feeling. Fear stems from two conflicting beliefs, for example an internal conflict between the belief in objective or subjective reality. If you decide to understand and deal with your beliefs and you choose the disempowering one or the empowering one you will get that in your reality. If you choose not to deal with you will by default get the disempowering one in your reality simply because ignorance is disempowering. All of this stems from a root feeling which is a root belief which your root state of mind or consciousness.

End of rant for now.

[Lemon Juice]

The secret sucked...

This is your own opinion. While many people criticise The Secret, there are also many who like it a lot.

...because it was far too simplistic, as is the law of attraction concept. I also think that The Secret may trivailize the root of its message because it isn't grounded enough because its mostly feel good motivation without any real depth.

I've been finding out that the simpler something is the more difficult it is to accept for the majority of people. Yes, the secret has been presented as very simple. And I believe it really is that simple. Did you practice it enough to say it's not? Even if you didn't manage to put such simple LOA to work for you doesn't mean it's not possible.

My first problem with the film is this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ quantum mechanics explaination. These people probabley don't understand the basic concepts of quantum mechanics. This is obvious because quantum physics does not in any way imply the LoA.

I agree with you on this point. I think the whole quantum physics stuff shouldn't have been covered in the Secret without more in-depth scientific explanations. I would prefer personal experiences instead.

My second is that The Secret doesn't have much valuable material. Its basically: hey we can solve all your problems, just write what you want down and feel good about it. Well there would be no suffering if it was that simple.

Ironically, I think you are a perfect example of why this last sentence is not true - if people hear of a wonderful idea which is too simple, they automatically discard it with disbelief as if simple = ineffective. There is suffering because we tend to be drawn to what is complicated and so we complicate our lives. I bet you could conquer the world with the few simple ideas from The Secret - but of course you won't if you find them ridiculously simple because you won't even try or try for a short while with disbelief - whereas persistance is required here.

The law of attraction for the most part isn't true.

I have no power to prove it to you otherwise. If you say LOA isn't true then by LOA what you say will become true for you. Only those who put the LOA to use can see the proof that it works by observing the results.

End of rant for now.

It's good to see people have different opinions and beliefs. Interestingly, I hear about many who rant and rant and rant as well as those who begin applying what they saw in the secret and report positive changes in their lives. Both approaches are valid and whichever you choose is up to you

[dorothy hanna]

Actually, the fact that they mentioned Quantum Physics in the film is the started me on an interesting study if such, It's facinating!

I glad they did mention it.
Have you watched, "What The Bleep Do We know?"

They speak more about Quantum Physics in that movie. At the end of the movie, while the credits are running, they have the teachers say their names, and list their education, and work experience. Two of the teachers were also in the secret. These guys have pretty substantial heavy weight degrees, from very well known Universities.

[spring07]

I have been lurking on this and several other "LoA" boards. this is my first post and this part of Mr Mustaches comments caught my attention:

"The film tries to explain its message by still subscribing to an objective model of reality which is frankly impossible."

My undestanding of Objective model of reality, is that everyone has their own reality. THis is why each person has their own opion, or the reason that several people can see the same event and descript it in different detail: because of their perception of reality. Or when watching a show about a tribe in Africa, we will say what a horrible way to live. But if those people never have seen any other way to live, their reality is ok to them, because all their people live that way. Is this on the right thought path of what objective model of reality means, your thoughts?

Also, I have been reading the reason some people are extremly money wealthy because thats how they "see" themselves. I believe this was once mentioned about Tony Roberts. He lost his moeny at one time? but was able to get back to haveing mulit-millions because he "knew" thats who he is.

Myself, Since seeing the secret on Oprah I have been on a obsessive misson to understand. i quite my job as a supervisor, got another job with 1.00hr, raise with in one week and was fired from that one, because I was honest withthe boss and said "this is not my dream job."

Any way very interesting post Mr Mushtache.
Love Susan

[Mr.Mustache]

Don't get me wrong I agree with the fact that if you change internally your external experience will change. I'm only saying that secret is not specific enough with its general feel good descriptions. I would rather people look within themselves then listen to vauge, mainstream friendly distortions.

[Lychee]

"The Secret" isn't specific enough, which is why a sequel is coming out soon to further explain it. If "The Secret" were as simple as people claim to be, everyone who watched it would have no trouble applying the concepts. But the fact that people are having trouble manifesting, and LoA boards across the internet are riddled with questions on how to use LoA, it proves that LoA is not as simple as some people play it out to be. "The Secret" is a primer IMO.

[Dharma]

Mr Mustache,
I agree with the faults you find in the secret, but it will never be what you want it to be. It is mass marketing for the soul. It's not meant to teach anyone how to manifest on a whim.... just planting a seed which opens a little space in the unconscious for the rest of us.

Yes I was standing on my chair yelling at the screen wondering how all these people could be saying what they're saying.

[Max Power]

Once I head about the premise of the dvd and book I knew I'd already seen it a thousand times before as far back as 1920-1930 through Hill and Wallace.

I really don't know why people get bent out of shape over it, it's just someone's opinion, just like this post or you rant or your blog.

No one is ever trying to convince anyone of anything except themselves.

Power to the Max

[Akashic_Librarian]

I liked The Secret beause I understood the basic concepts before I watched it. It makes sense if you apply it to a SR model, its harder to explain in objective reality...So yeah. It was good, but it lacked the real truth.

[blueman70]

The secret was good, but it reeked of snake oil salesmanship if you ask me...

There's much more "nutritious" PD material to devour than that.