The "Counting Money" Technique Works

[Monk]

Thanks Rezzy, and thanks my very generous friend Esoteric. (Now I know you'll be massively rich and happy, guys ) The credit however goes to two teachers and magic masters: Alan Chapman, who re-defined magick as "the art, science and culture of experiencing truth," and Patrick Dunn, for his theory on the Semiotic Web, i.e. the world being one of symbols. Thanks anyway for your reading and your kind comments.

[snowflake]

moonrambler, I believe in alien life but if a UFO landed in my backyard, I would know there is alien life, not just believe in it that's why for me, knowing is much deeper than simply believing something. But even your beliefs will not stop you from manifesting even if the LOA teachers say otherwise. I have manifested money while having many doubts about it happening but the reason it worked is because the past and my beliefs don't matter. All that matters is right now, in this instant when I close my eyes, I KNOW the money is in my hands. Whatever belief I have or had about money makes no difference. That's how I see it.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by snowflake

moonrambler, I believe in alien life but if a UFO landed in my backyard, I would know there is alien life, not just believe in it that's why for me, knowing is much deeper than simply believing something. But even your beliefs will not stop you from manifesting even if the LOA teachers say otherwise. I have manifested money while having many doubts about it happening but the reason it worked is because the past and my beliefs don't matter. All that matters is right now, in this instant when I close my eyes, I KNOW the money is in my hands. Whatever belief I have or had about money makes no difference. That's how I see it.

To me, it's all about who we are more so than a belief of whether or not the money will appear. If who I am is someone who knows that money is bad, it's likely going to be difficult for me to generate money, even if I really want it. And if I can manifest the money by knowing it's in my hands, it's likely I'll manifest a way to lose it quickly.

If you really can override who you inherently are, and make it so you only exist in the now, then you are fortunate to be able to make that change. Were you previously someone who had issues with money and were you able to instantly make a change when you decided to?

I know sometimes changes (even big ones) are instantaneous. I wasn't able to make the instantaneous shift when it came to money. I had too tangled a relationship with it and with my parents' attitudes about money and so on.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by snowflake

It's not about thinking or believing, it's about knowing.

Point blank, I KNOW money doesn't just come from nowhere (other than the occasional "found money", which never seem to amount to more than $10). At least, money does not come out of nowhere not for me. I'm sure that for other people it does, because I've seen it happen to them. I don't doubt that it is entirely possible as a concept. As a reality, as MY reality... well, let's just say I don't have a good relationship with money.

And in this case, what you are describing as "knowing" is a kind of belief. Because you don't REALLY know, not in any kind of factual way. In my case, I don't know in any sort of experiential way, either (i.e., I've always had issues with money, all of my life). My mind/psyche is not of a shape that can be bent to blind faith, and this has always been the case. If I can know experientially (even very weird and esoteric things), then that's okay, but just telling myself "this will now happen" doesn't work, at least when it comes to money (it works in other areas, though).

I have tried all manner of techniques to force myself to "know/believe" that money CAN come to ME (not just other people) from anywhere and everywhere. NOTHING has ever worked to convince me. This is not a matter of "faith" (I can and have manifested all kinds of stuff, including things that other people may find really difficult, like a fantastic life partner). This is not a matter of knowledge (trust me, I have accumulated more knowledge on the topic of intentional manifestation than any sensible person would want or need).

Your approach may work well for you, and I have no doubt that it does. Maybe it works perfectly for the whole of the rest of humanity, with the exception of Moonrambler and myself, I guess, but your approach of just decding and knowing (i.e., blind faith) is not useful for me when it comes to manifesting money.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

This is not a matter of knowledge (trust me, I have accumulated more knowledge on the topic of intentional manifestation than any sensible person would want or need).

I take an odd kind of comfort from this - it suggests that whatever the 'solution', I indeed will not find it by continued searching/reading.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Wax Frog

I take an odd kind of comfort from this - it suggests that whatever the 'solution', I indeed will not find it by continued searching/reading.

That's the conclusion I've reached, too. I think I've finally exhausted myself (I always do this, it's just something in my makeup). I'm just working on surrender, now, and hoping to break the pattern of "lack mentality".

[Wax Frog]

My own surrender is taking the form of a sort of semi-thoughless bubble. I'm sure I've still got unhelpful thoughts running around my inner pudding somewhere, but I'm finding it's really not all that hard to ignore them.

I did have an interesting dream, followed by a brief trance state in the midst of which - by some miracle - I thought to do some money-counting!

[Rezzy7]

I don't see believing and knowing so separate from each other.

I know the Sun comes up in the morning, and still I believe it will come up again tomorrow. I have no way of knowing it will absolutely come up tomorrow. It's made of hydrogen. It could explode overnight for all I know!

I know the LOA works because I've witnessed it through people I know, and I've read or heard about the countless experiences of others. Like CaterpillarWoman says, I know it works for other people. I have experienced it happening somewhat for myself, too. So I know there's something to it. I have to, then, figure out to believe it to the same degree as I believe the Sun will rise, or a chair will support me when I sit upon it.

Originally Posted by moonrambler

To me, it's all about who we are more so than a belief of whether or not the money will appear.

If you really can override who you inherently are,

I think one has to get to an even deeper level of who than even what you've said. The surface, false, ego self, which is where those blocks to abundance exist, are what you want to override; those are not inherently who you are, right? When we accept who and what we inherently are, there is nothing that needs to be overridden.

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

Point blank, I KNOW money doesn't just come from nowhere (other than the occasional "found money", which never seem to amount to more than $10). At least, money does not come out of nowhere not for me.

You and I must realize that having not happened is not more powerful than it does happen. We just have yet to "align" ourselves with the experience of it, because like all these things we discuss here, personal experience is always the most convincing convincer.

One thing I'm trying to avoid is making too many statements like, "I can't seem to create/manifest _______", even if that's "true" of my present experience. The more I say it or type it, the more I'm thinking it, which is the opposite of what I intend.

I'm replacing those thoughts with "What if? up" questions like, "What if I suddenly started manifesting stuff easily?" This idea should not seem too far fetched even to the most troubled manifestor, because anyone can win a lottery prize. (And there are other ways money can suddenly come from "nowhere," that are easy for the logical brain to accept.) Asking questions like that allows natural forces to provide whatever great response fits for me in that moment.

[geniegal]

Thanks Monk for the cards technique. That's a great thing because you can actually do it in reality.

Must go to bed and do some manifesting as I drop off to seep!

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by Rezzy7

[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]I don't see believing and knowing so separate from each other.

I know the Sun comes up in the morning, and still I believe it will come up again tomorrow. I have no way of knowing it will absolutely come up tomorrow. It's made of hydrogen. It could explode overnight for all I know!

It's more than a belief that the sun will come up tomorrow. You know that it will, you expect it to come up. Most people don't think about it at all. The idea that the sun rises every single morning is a knowing they have deep within their consciousness. If the sun did not rise, the shock could kill them or drive them insane.

I'm sitting on a chair right now and typing on my computer. I know this. There is still some level of doubt with beliefs but not with knowing. I'm certain I'm sitting on a chair right now. With regards to manifesting there needs to be that same certainty that your desire is already fact that you have for the chair or the computer or your tv being real.

The problem is people see manifestation as sort of miraculous when in fact everything in your house right now is a manifestation of your conscious awareness. I KNOW I'm sitting on a chair right now but in fact, the chair doesn't even exist. It exists because I'm aware of it. How did I create the chair? Why is it always there when I wake up? Because I expect it to be. Its existence depends on my awareness of it.

What we call reality is only what we can percieve. And we think that what we can percieve is all that exists. Shift your awareness to something you would like to have that you cannot currently percieve. Know that it is already there right in front of you when you close your eyes. Play with it, touch it, feel it, look at it but most importantly, know that its there. Do that 2-3 times a day. There's nothing more to it.

[geniegal]

Interesting Post Snowflake - so if we accept that what we were previously 100% sure existed could be a projection (eg a chair), then our manifestations are as real as that chair. IE they are mare real than I'd thought.

I cant explain it any better but I get it. That is brill.

I am happy not being sure of what reality is. Folks like Rob scheinfeld (busting loose from the money game) seem to need to be ceratin of subjective reality. For me that is a huge shift ...but if I accept that it is at least possible, then all the stuff I have manifested in the last 18 mo fits into some sort of framework.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by snowflake

How did I create the chair? Why is it always there when I wake up? Because I expect it to be. Its existence depends on my awareness of it.

I disagree with this because it doesn't fit my personal experience. If people always got what they expected, they'd never be shocked by anything. They wouldn't think, "I never dreamed that could happen! I never saw that coming! Never in my wildest dreams!"

[esoteric53]

Originally Posted by Monk

Thanks Rezzy, and thanks my very generous friend Esoteric. (Now I know you'll be massively rich and happy, guys ) The credit however goes to two teachers and magic masters: Alan Chapman, who re-defined magick as "the art, science and culture of experiencing truth," and Patrick Dunn, for his theory on the Semiotic Web, i.e. the world being one of symbols. Thanks anyway for your reading and your kind comments.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and also for your kindness.
All much appreciated.

[esoteric53]

Originally Posted by snowflake

It's more than a belief that the sun will come up tomorrow. You know that it will, you expect it to come up. Most people don't think about it at all. The idea that the sun rises every single morning is a knowing they have deep within their consciousness. If the sun did not rise, the shock could kill them or drive them insane.

I'm sitting on a chair right now and typing on my computer. I know this. There is still some level of doubt with beliefs but not with knowing. I'm certain I'm sitting on a chair right now. With regards to manifesting there needs to be that same certainty that your desire is already fact that you have for the chair or the computer or your tv being real.

The problem is people see manifestation as sort of miraculous when in fact everything in your house right now is a manifestation of your conscious awareness. I KNOW I'm sitting on a chair right now but in fact, the chair doesn't even exist. It exists because I'm aware of it. How did I create the chair? Why is it always there when I wake up? Because I expect it to be. Its existence depends on my awareness of it.

What we call reality is only what we can percieve. And we think that what we can percieve is all that exists. Shift your awareness to something you would like to have that you cannot currently percieve. Know that it is already there right in front of you when you close your eyes. Play with it, touch it, feel it, look at it but most importantly, know that its there. Do that 2-3 times a day. There's nothing more to it.

Snowflake, Thank you... I'll try to do that.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

I disagree with this because it doesn't fit my personal experience. If people always got what they expected, they'd never be shocked by anything. They wouldn't think, "I never dreamed that could happen! I never saw that coming! Never in my wildest dreams!"

You're only shocked by what your mind can accept. If I have a red car in my garage and I wake up tomorrow and it's now blue, my mind won't be able to accept that. I'll think someone is playing a joke on me or I'm going crazy.

Your mind would not be able to accept you sitting on a chair and the chair suddenly disappearing or changing into something else. You're not ready for that so you are given what you can deal with without going mad.

[Rezzy7]

Originally Posted by snowflake

It's more than a belief that the sun will come up tomorrow. You know that it will, you expect it to come up. Most people don't think about it at all. The idea that the sun rises every single morning is a knowing they have deep within their consciousness.

I think the most I can ever know is that the Sun is supposed to come up tomorrow, but I can't possibly know with absolute certainty there won't be some disaster or something that will prevent sunrise.

So, if it's not a 100% guarantee, then I can only believe the Sun will rise based on available information, and the expectations that result from that info. I am working on my psychic powers, however.

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by snowflake

You're only shocked by what your mind can accept. If I have a red car in my garage and I wake up tomorrow and it's now blue, my mind won't be able to accept that. I'll think someone is playing a joke on me or I'm going crazy.

Your mind would not be able to accept you sitting on a chair and the chair suddenly disappearing or changing into something else. You're not ready for that so you are given what you can deal with without going mad.

I'm not getting the connection. Are you saying a person manifesting for money has to be so certain that she has money in her hands that if she looks down and there's no money there, she'll go crazy?

I haven't seen that level of certainty expressed by any of the most expert manifesters on this forum.

In addition, it doesn't explain how you say that everything in our life exists because we know it is, yet many times we find out something wasn't at all how we knew it was. It might not be on the level of the chair I'm sitting on disappearing, but sometimes it's very mind-bendy when something you knew was real turns out not to be real. Or vice versa.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by Rezzy7

I think the most I can ever know is that the Sun is supposed to come up tomorrow, but I can't possibly know with absolute certainty there won't be some disaster or something that will prevent sunrise.

So, if it's not a 100% guarantee, then I can only believe the Sun will rise based on available information, and the expectations that result from that info. I am working on my psychic powers, however.

I'm sure that 99.9% of people on this planet do not think about whether the sun will rise the next day. They don't spend time doing affirmations to try to convince their subconscious minds that the sun will rise. It's such a deep knowing that they don't even have to think about it.

Like the items in my house and the car in my garage. I don't have to stare at my car all day and keep saying to myself "I have a red car, a red car is in my garage, snowflake has a red car" or chant or do rituals to convince myself that I have a couch in my living room. I just know it. I get in my car to drive somewhere then I come back home, put it in my garage and I forget about it.

Don't try to convince yourself that you have something, KNOW that you have it. This is why the money counting technique works so well. No affirmations, no changing beliefs, no positive emotions, just pure knowing that the money is in my hands. I treat it during my visualization the same way I would treat real money: count it a few times, then put it in my drawer and forget about it until the next visualization.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

I'm not getting the connection. Are you saying a person manifesting for money has to be so certain that she has money in her hands that if she looks down and there's no money there, she'll go crazy?

I haven't seen that level of certainty expressed by any of the most expert manifesters on this forum.

In addition, it doesn't explain how you say that everything in our life exists because we know it is, yet many times we find out something wasn't at all how we knew it was. It might not be on the level of the chair I'm sitting on disappearing, but sometimes it's very mind-bendy when something you knew was real turns out not to be real. Or vice versa.

Something appearing or disappearing right in front of your eyes would probably make you lose your mind. This is why things seem to always be the same way. If you woke up one morning and your bathtub had disappeared or changed places or the brick of your house had changed colors, your mind would not be able to accept this. But, learning that William Shakespeare was not the real author of his plays will not drive you mad or learning that the US government was behind 9/11 can be understood even if it's hard to accept (I'm just giving examples and not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with these theories).

My point is, the physical world only appears to be what it is because the idea that it is this way is imbedded deep within your consciousness. It would be too shocking for you to see the truth right now. So, if the material world is an illusion and exists because you are aware of it, then you can manifest anything you want by realizing that everything you see around you comes from your own conscious awareness. If you become consciously aware of something else, something you want, it will manifest because it's already there, only outside of your awareness right now. It's right under your nose as we speak.

[shasah]

Hey, thanks, I like it!! I started yesterday counting and although I did not get the exact amount (yet) that I thought about I did have someone place 2 $100 bills into my hands today

[Wax Frog]

For a couple reasons I stopped doing counting with my fake money, but having set a habit for it, I find it is very easy to remember to do this in my mind when I wake from sleep and also can easily get into a trance state. Among other things, the money seems more vivid to me than when I try to do it in a 'standard' meditation...

[shasah]

I am going to have to change my vision a bit, it is working but not exactly how I wanted it to. I have been counting out $3000.00 in $100.00 bills. The good news is that so far 13 $100.00 bills have passed into my hands. The bad news is that it has not been my money. My daughter has asked me to hold onto money for her and has twice handed me a stack of $100 bills that she asked me to deposit.

So my vision is changing to me counting out these bills in a bank INTO MY ACCOUNT!!

Try, try again...

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by shasah

I am going to have to change my vision a bit, it is working but not exactly how I wanted it to. I have been counting out $3000.00 in $100.00 bills. The good news is that so far 13 $100.00 bills have passed into my hands. The bad news is that it has not been my money. My daughter has asked me to hold onto money for her and has twice handed me a stack of $100 bills that she asked me to deposit.

So my vision is changing to me counting out these bills in a bank INTO MY ACCOUNT!!

Try, try again...

I think these sorts of events are good signs . . . they indicate there's power in the method. It's like we first have success with it in a way that we're used to (we're manifesting somebody else's money) or it is like some odd random events. It's like we need to learn how to shape the technique to become a well-orchestrated piece of music rather than chaos.

[shasah]

Originally Posted by moonrambler

I think these sorts of events are good signs . . . they indicate there's power in the method. It's like we first have success with it in a way that we're used to (we're manifesting somebody else's money) or it is like some odd random events. It's like we need to learn how to shape the technique to become a well-orchestrated piece of music rather than chaos.

I would have to agree moonrambler. I had not seen 13 hundred dollar bills in a month in quite a long time. Usually do any business by check or card and cash is usually in twenties. So it has convinced me that the method does work and that it is me that needs to work on my vision. I am looking forward to the success I know is coming my way.

[snowflake]

shasah, make sure you know the money is yours when you count it. That's why after I finish counting it, I put it in my drawer. I'm not simply counting money, I'm counting MY money that was given to ME

[shasah]

Yup, forgot about that part. Another hundred given to me today...for me to buy supplies for my bf's dad....lol

[mattty]

LOL! Synchronicity.

I was just reading through this thread earlier, and earlier today before reading this thread, my mother walks in with an envelope filled with indonesian money (50,000 notes) for our holiday to Bali in like less than 10 days. I believe she was also counting through it in front of me as well, and then I check out the Neville Goddard video and he pulls out the same notes. CLASSIC. I love this **** so much. I love you Universe :-) so funny!

I'll definately give this a whirl and see what happens. Either way I don't really care, but if it works then that'll be awesome!!!

Love this forum, such wonderful people on here who are of like mind. Every single one of you is awesome. Sending positive vibes your way

Matty.

[loapatti]

You could get a job as a bank teller and count out money all day!

mmm, come to think of it, any job where you can count out money. I've worked as a supervisor counting cash drawers for deposits and there would be thousands in there. It never helped me financially though, wonder why?

[moonrambler]

Originally Posted by loapatti

You could get a job as a bank teller and count out money all day!

mmm, come to think of it, any job where you can count out money. I've worked as a supervisor counting cash drawers for deposits and there would be thousands in there. It never helped me financially though, wonder why?

'Cause you're not imagining it's yours?

[Vaganova]

Halp! Every time I hear something this awesome, I hit a brick wall.

All I'd need to do is stand up and walk over to the counter and pull out my wallet... but I'm too scared it will WORK!!

AAARRGGHH!!