Why!!??!! - Money related

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by lycan

Define "need".

I have pondered that word and today I have concluded it does not serve me .. I am going to endeavor to remove it from my vocabulary..

[mallie]

I have ponder that word and today I have concluded it does not serve me .. to I am going to endeavor to remove it from my vocabulary..

Hi Sbonn,
That is a great idea! I am going to do it too! There are sooo many words we thoughtlessly accept into our daily lives and don't realize the havoc it creates.

I am also going to re-read the whole CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD series by neale donald walsch. I really like the way God explains everything in plain simple terms as to how to manifest things. I think there are waaay too many books on the market explaining loa and it just gets too confusing.

God says to just focus on what you want to the EXCLUSION of everything else and just let that be your daily activity. When you do this you change your vibration and pull what you want into your reality. It is WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ALL DAY LONG OR THINK ABOUT FERVENTLY THAT GETS MANIFESTED! It really is that simple. I think we humans make everything waaay too difficult and time-consuming. (and then come out with 10 million books about it! lol!!)

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by mallie

Hi Sbonn,
That is a great idea! I am going to do it too! There are sooo many words we thoughtlessly accept into our daily lives and don't realize the havoc it creates.

I am also going to re-read the whole CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD series by neale donald walsch. I really like the way God explains everything in plain simple terms as to how to manifest things. I think there are waaay too many books on the market explaining loa and it just gets too confusing.

God says to just focus on what you want to the EXCLUSION of everything else and just let that be your daily activity. When you do this you change your vibration and pull what you want into your reality. It is WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ALL DAY LONG OR THINK ABOUT FERVENTLY THAT GETS MANIFESTED! It really is that simple. I think we humans make everything waaay too difficult and time-consuming. (and then come out with 10 million books about it! lol!!)

Glad you like the idea, I have found there are more then just that one word and some phrases that do not serve me. Yep I will be escorting them on their merry way.

What I have concluded (for me), is yes it is good to focus on what you want but not to the point of obsession.. over focus tends to enhance the feeling of lack rather then alleviate it.

I was experiencing this earlier this year and the end of last... what helped? Well I worked with Terry Mahaney's Supersleep ( I appreciated the passive way this method works... EG: while you sleep .. this helped with the breaking out of what I call mental loops ( obsessing thoughts on a particular subject) ) I was able to move my focus off what I was obsessing over about 6 -7 months after the supersleep method.

Now what I was focused on has improved dramatically because I allowed space for the universe to do its thing by removing my focus and obsessing.. I attribute other things to helping with this too but, again those helped with distracting me and knowing its done and I already have it.

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The idea is to focus till you know it's done and feel that it is yours beyond doubt even tho it is not directly in-front of you.

The feeling of "I already have it" is the first manifestation and that is the change in vibration everyone speaks of.. when you feel that it's done and I already have it, that is when you detach and let go and and the universe can can do its thing with speed and........ since you already have it.. detachment is easy thus speeding up the physical manifestation.

Words associated with this concept: surrender, faith, detachment, belief, trust ... I am sure there are others.. these are just off the top of my head.

The reason there are so many books on LoA is there are many different people, each person tends to come up with a way they managed to focus, know it's done and then detach that worked for them.. when they have success .. they think wow the world could use this info! and ALA peanut butter sandwiches ... book

In the end they all write the same information has been around for centuries... literally. Just worded differently.

[mallie]

What I have concluded (for me), is yes it is good to focus on what you want but not to the point of obsession.. over focus tends to enhance the feeling of lack rather then alleviate it.

The idea is to focus till you know it's done and feel that it is yours beyond doubt even tho it is not directly in-front of you.

The feeling of "I already have it" is the first manifestation and that change in vibration everyone speaks of.. when you feel that it's done and I already have it, that is when you detach and let go and and the universe can can do its thing with speed and........ since you already have it.. detachment is easy thus speeding up the physical manifestation.

That is a great point to make. Yes, it is very important to not make it such an obsession because then it is almost like you fear you are not going to get it (or that it is going to take a long time to manifest) and you can block the manifestion.

The reason there are so many books on LoA is there are many different people, each person tends to come up with a way they managed to focus, know it's done and then detach.. when they have success .. they think wow the world could use this info!

In the end they all write the same information has been around for centuries... literally. Just worded differently

This is why I have stopped buying so many loa books, because they are all technically the same stuff repackaged!

[cortocabezas1111]

Originally Posted by billionairekid

Makers of the Secret and Abraham have no documented prosperity before their teachings. Why do we continue to follow their claims? Aren't other people seeing a problem here?

You're right. It's fast food spirituality.

I personally don't follow that stuff.




That's not to say that the core concepts are lies. They aren't. Creating your reality is possible, but The Secret isn't going to help anyone understand how.

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by cortocabezas1111

You're right. It's fast food spirituality.

I personally don't follow that stuff.




That's not to say that the core concepts are lies. They aren't. Creating your reality is possible, but The Secret isn't going to help anyone understand how.

I consider The Secret an introduction to the concepts.. Silva Method, A-H and others are a good next step, just as this forum itself is.

[lycan]

Originally Posted by Sbonn

I have ponder that word and today I have concluded it does not serve me .. I am going to endeavor to remove it from my vocabulary..

The reason I ask is because "need" is a conditional word. You need the requirements of something (the cause) in order to generate that something (the effect). In nature, there are countless "needs" that go unfulfilled. Animals starve to death, get ill and die, kill each other to establish their dominance, drown, are burned alive, etc. Their needs, in relation to remaining alive, were not met. If you use the word need, you can always just say "well, but did they need to remain alive?", "do you need that to be happy?", "do you need to have choice?", etc, etc, because the word "need" means nothing by itself. It's a cop out word when used so loosely. In relation to the point he was trying to make, it would be simpler to say these people did not want to be wealthy before.

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by lycan

The reason I ask is because "need" is a conditional word. You need the requirements of something (the cause) in order to generate that something (the effect). In nature, there are countless "needs" that go unfulfilled. Animals starve to death, get ill and die, kill each other to establish their dominance, drown, are burned alive, etc. Their needs, in relation to remaining alive, were not met. If you use the word need, you can always just say "well, but did they need to remain alive?", "do you need that to be happy?", "do you need to have choice?", etc, etc, because the word "need" means nothing by itself. It's a cop out word when used so loosely.

You hit the nail on the head about the word, it's a cop out in the context of LoA... it denotes lack.. this is why I am eliminating it from my vocabulary. Identifying things like this is how one changes thoughts and beliefs.

Conditional: Subject to one or more conditions or requirements being met; made or granted on certain terms...

Within my understanding and again in the context of LoA ... this is one of the ways to keep what you desire from manifesting, because it is limiting the possibilities.

[Wax Frog]

Originally Posted by Sbonn

I consider The Secret an introduction to the concepts.. Silva Method, A-H and others are a good next step, just as this forum itself is.

I was led to things like "The Presence Process" and the "Busting Loose" books, and for that I'm grateful to Ms. Byrne and the Hicks (and my long-lost pal KJ, who suggested "Illusions" long before IM/LoA became part of my vocabulary)...

[Sbonn]

Originally Posted by lycan

It's a cop out word when used so loosely.

I'm sorry Lycan my previous post for some reason my mind keyed in on this, I was addressing that .. again my apologies.

Originally Posted by lycan

In relation to the point he was trying to make, it would be simpler to say these people did not want to be wealthy before.

This I just saw, ... so yeah I get what you saw now and why you were wondering how he was using the word ..... I agree it could have been written/worded in a better way.. like saying "their desires and more are met" and or wording along those lines..


BIG HUGS to you Lycan!
Sbonn

[richest]

If there's "why?" question I want to ask to those LOA/manifesting gurus, it will be...

Why you sell manifesting stuffs at high price?

Some gurus sell manifesting money method at $97, and even hundred bucks. Don't they think that there are many people who need the information but cannot afford to buy it? Or does the price matter to make buyer believe that the information have high quality and money back guarantee?

Just curious if they made money by selling method to make money

[AngelPsychic444]

However, I'm ready for the next level and I've been experimenting on my own to figure out what that is. Hopefully Mrs. Grabhorn can help me get there

Have you ever thought to master the art of visualization? Most if not all LOA books talk about this in some manner. For someone who's very good visualizing, and is amazingly persistant with it...they could just stop working at some point and live off their skills.