You Don't Intend For Your Heart To Beat

[cylon]

And you don't have to consciously make yourself breathe.

Your breath happens all on its own. If you had to consciously make yourself inhale and exhale every time, all your attention would be used up, and there'd be no room in your awareness for anything else.

Just like you don't have to deliberately intend for any other of the host of things your body does moment to moment in order to keep you alive and healthy.

One could say that you could trust in your body to do what must be done, and it will work behind the scenes, without your conscious input--doing whatever it can to ensure your optimum health.

A lot of people experience something and say "well, this couldn't be LOA. I never intended for it to happen!" or they (in my opinion) falsely believe that the stuff that is fun and cool is LOA, and everything else is just the randomness of the mechanical world. Good stuff= I did it on purpose. Bad stuff=don't blame me.

What's interesting to me about this is the complete trust and faith we have in our bodies looking out for our optimum health, and its hidden intelligence--the intelligence that keeps us alive without needing any action on our parts except for feeding, exercise, and rest, yet when it comes to trusting that there is a larger intelligence that is looking out for our optimum well being and happiness, we can become doubtful, or think it's just too good to be true.

Isn't the fact that you're alive too good to be true? I think so. But it's true, here you are. And it's a miracle that your body can do what it can, all while you can be oblivious to the underlying process, and focus your awareness on whatever it is that you want.

Ultimately, to fully take advantage of LOA, my belief is that you need to realize that even if you aren't consciously, deliberately intending for something to happen, there IS a hidden, larger intelligence at work that is beyond your conscious mind. If you have a hard time believing it is so, just ask yourself the last time you forced your heart to beat.

In the same way that if you ignore the signals your body sends you when it is not being taken care of (illness, lethargy, etc) your health will suffer, if you ignore the manifestations you receive in life, that accurate feedback of where your thoughts and feelings are, you won't have the life you desire.

Likewise, if you pay attention to your body you will be healthy, and if you pay attention to the content of your life, you will see the impartial results of your predominant thoughts and feelings.

Pay attention to the signals, the feedback. Don't worry if you "consciously" intended to receive something, or that you would never "deliberately intend" for something bad that may have happened, or all the nuts and bolts of how what you got found its way to you. It found its way to you, because you were a vibrational match for it. In my opinion, that's all you really need to know.

Basic stuff, LOA 101, but I think trusting in, and taking seriously, this unseen force is the basis of all successful LOA practice.

[snowflake]

Great post

I'm not sure anymore if thoughts really have that much power because if they did, I'd probably be dead by now lol. I've had so many negative thoughts in my life that I should have attracted a lot of really bad things. I also look at my father who is in his late seventies (I'm the baby of the family) and he is basically a hypocondriac. When he turned 50, he was convinced he was going to die like his father of a heart attack at 52. It never happened. In his sixties, he was obsessed with prostate cancer. Didn't happen. Now in his seventies, he's afraid of getting alzheimers and he takes fish oil and does brain exercises and constantly reads medical news about this disease and yet his brain, to my knowledge, is functioning better than most people younger than him. Then you look at all the children, some just infants, who are already struggling with life threatening diseases and you ask yourself: if thoughts have that much power, wouldn't 70+ years of negative thinking have attracted far more health problems than 5 years of life?

There's something else going on behind the scenes.

[Cochonette]

You don't intend for your heart to beat because your heart works on visceral muscles. So do your intenstines. Your eyelids are partly visceral and partly conscious muscles. And your limbs function based on conscious intention. They might involve habitual movement, but you had to learn that and can change it.

[mikej]

i think there's an intention behind everything that happens in the universe but often it's buried beneath our conscious awareness so we can't access what it is.

like the other day someone posted about witnessing someone else getting hit by a car.

it's natural to assume that witnessing this was unintentional but on some level they did intend it.

[Acting Like Godot]

You do intend for your heart to beat.

It's just a different "you" who intends that, that's all.

Not the egoic, conscious-mind you. But a deeper, more primeval level of you.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by snowflake

Now in his seventies, he's afraid of getting alzheimers and he takes fish oil and does brain exercises and constantly reads medical news about this disease and yet his brain, to my knowledge, is functioning better than most people younger than him.

It's often the case that a negative thought doesn't manifest because it is counteracted by another belief about how to prevent the subject-matter of the first thought from manifesting.

Eg if you hold this thought:

"I am growing old, and therefore am at risk of getting Alzhemiers"

and you also hold this belief:

"Consuming fish oil and keeping mentally active will help to prevent Alzheimers"

and you proceed to consume fish oils and stay mentally active, then you can stave off the manifestation of Alzheimers.

[SethWilliams]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

It's often the case that a negative thought doesn't manifest because it is counteracted by another belief about how to prevent the subject-matter of the first thought from manifesting.

Eg if you hold this thought:

"I am growing old, and therefore am at risk of getting Alzhemiers"

and you also hold this belief:

"Consuming fish oil and keeping mentally active will help to prevent Alzheimers"

and you proceed to consume fish oils and stay mentally active, then you can stave off the manifestation of Alzheimers.

Very interesting. Could you do something similar to slow down aging?

[kenny r]

I think the trusting aspect is the point of Jesus' lilies of the field story.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

You do intend for your heart to beat.

It's just a different "you" who intends that, that's all.

Not the egoic, conscious-mind you. But a deeper, more primeval level of you.

Precisely, there is an intelligence going on beyond the conscious thinker. In the same way my body is also "me" but it operates independently of my conscious thought.

[Kishka]

Originally Posted by SethWilliams

Very interesting. Could you do something similar to slow down aging?

Yeah, it's called eating healthy and exercising...lol. And if you buy into all the anti-aging remedies out there, something will probably slow down aging for you if you hold the belief that it will.

[Monk]

Originally Posted by SethWilliams

Very interesting. Could you do something similar to slow down aging?

"It is not what you state in your thought but what you give to your thought that determines results. The thought that is merely stated may be empty, but it is the thought with something in it that alone can exercise real power in personal life. And what is to be in your thought will depend upon what you think into your thought. What you give to your thought, your thought will give to you, and you will be and become accordingly, no matter what you may think that you are. The cause that you originate in the within will produce its effect in the without, regardless of what your opinions may be. Your personal life will consequently be the result of what you think, but it will not necessarily be what you think it is.

Having discovered the fact that the physical body is completely renewed every eight or ten months, you will naturally think that you are young, but to simply think you are young will not cause the body to look as young as it really is. To retain your youth you must remove those subconscious tendencies and conditions that produce old age, and you must eliminate worry. So long as you worry you will cause your personality to grow older and older in appearance, no matter how persistently you may think that you are young. To simply think that you are young will not avail. You must think thoughts that produce, retain and perpetuate youth. If you wish to look young, your mind must feel young, but you will not feel young until the whole of your mind produces the feeling of youth.

To develop the feeling of youth in the whole mind, you must become fully conscious of the fact that youth is naturally produced in your entire system every minute, and you must train the mind to take cognizance only of the eternal now. So long as we feel that we are passing with time, we will imagine that we feel the weight of more and more years, and this feeling will invariably cause the body to show the mark of years, growing older and older in appearance as more years are added to the imaginary burden of age. You will look young when you feel young, but to simply feel that you are young will not always cause you to feel young. The real feeling of youth comes when we actually think in the consciousness of youth and give the realization of the now to every thought."


Your Forces and How to Use Them
Christian D. Larson - 1910

_________________

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Kishka

Yeah, it's called eating healthy and exercising...lol.

Goes beyond that.

Try googling some of the research done by Harvard psychologist Ellen Langer on aging.

[Acting Like Godot]

Here's one article about her research:

Mindfulness—the unconventional research of psychologist Ellen Langer | Harvard Magazine Sep-Oct 2010

Basically if you trick people into thinking that they're younger, they do become younger - measuring youth/old age by indicators such as degree of arthritis; memory loss; vision; physical ability etc.

[Kishka]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Goes beyond that.

Try googling some of the research done by Harvard psychologist Ellen Langer on aging.

Hey ALG, yes, it's all in the mind, of course...

[SlicK]

Basic stuff, LOA 101, but I think trusting in, and taking seriously, this unseen force is the basis of all successful LOA practice.

"Let go and let God". Besides the LoA thing, I think it can help make life much more interesting and fun. I think it can tremendously help with self-trust. I think it can help a lot with setting much better goals for yourself and much much more. I think it would make a super-human out of you. What? Having BLIND TRUST/FAITH in the intelligence that guides you. I am trying hard to get there

I think you just have to remember how to have such trust because I can remember I had it when I was a kid. Probably most people had that trust/faith when they were kids. So let's remember.

[shasah]

I think it's interesting that so many use LOA and intention manifestation and the subconscious mind as the same entity. To me they are different and not necessarily complimentary.

You can think positively and act positively and get negative results.
You can have an intention that never comes to fruition and you can have events happen that weren't intended.
IMO, the subconscious is the key. Once you convince your subconscious that something is true, it will do it's utmost to ensure that it truly is.

Otherwise, how do you explain all those out there that do not know about nor even practice LOA or IM? The negative personality that has all that it needs but cannot be happy? The positive personality that can't seem to catch a break? Or the ones that do believe but just can't seem to get it to click? The subconscious of these people is not in line with what is going on around them.

[truant]

Your experience is an exact replica of your beliefs. Not your thoughts, but your beliefs. There is a difference between having the thought: "I want to believe that I am young" and believing that you are young. If you are using positive affirmation to instill a belief then you definitely do not have it as a belief. If you believed it, it would be a silent assumption that you never consciously question, not something you need to convince yourself of.

That doesn't mean that affirmations have no value; they do, but they have to be used consciously and intelligently. The point of using an affirmation is to prime your subconscious to be on the lookout for evidence to support your desired new belief. It is up to you to pay attention to your experience and to recognize the evidence when it presents itself and to do the work of integrating it with the rest of your beliefs.

Your health is also dictated by your beliefs. The type of illness you get depends on your beliefs, and will be a match for your beliefs, but isn't consciously selected. If you believe that you have limitations in a certain area, and you believe in illness, then the belief will manifest an illness to justify your belief in the limitation. The type of illness depends on the limitation you believe in.

Having suffered from hypochondria myself, I can assure you that, at least in my own case, it is a specific kind of belief-structure. Hypochondriacs believe that their physical well-being is at risk, and that their bodies cannot be trusted, and they seek out evidence to support their beliefs by identifying and magnifying normal physical sensations. They do not believe they have the illness, they believe they are at risk, so their belief is faithfully manifested as a state of perpetual risk. Their thinking runs along the line of: "Well, since I believe that I can't trust my body to take care of itself, and since I feel anxious and threatened, and since people are getting sick all of the time, I should be on the lookout for anything out of the ordinary in my physical sensations." They focus their energy and attention on being at risk of illness and create and sustain a manifestation of being perpetually at risk.

A person who suffers from a real illness rarely ever intends a specific illness. Rather, they believe so strongly in a limitation, and in illness, that their limitation takes the form of an illness. An illness that fits the limitation.

People may also manifest illness to avoid certain kinds of experience, much the same way children pretend to be sick to avoid going to school. If you feel that you are hopelessly inept socially, you may adopt an illness that prevents you from being social. You may 'cultivate' your illness but be unaware of your complicity.

You may also adopt an illness to serve a function as part of a group. For example, you may believe that your family is drifting apart and that only an illness will reunite you. You may adopt an illness to save the family if you believe that family is more important than your physical health.

You may also manifest an illness or accident if you believe that you need to make a dramatic change in your life but your beliefs in other areas prevent you from acting more directly. If you believe that something important has to happen, but you don't believe you have the resources to undertake the change, you may 'ask' the universe for assistance by unconsciously supporting the illness or accident. Again: you do not need to believe that you are going to have an accident or become ill, only that you need to change something. You will take the first thing that comes along that seems to fit whatever need you're trying to fulfill. This can include adopting a challenge, such as a serious accident or illness.

Illnesses or accidents may also be the result of guilt and a belief that you need to be punished for your actions. You may be so overwhelmed with guilt, and have such a strong belief in karma or divine justice that you adopt an accident or illness to punish yourself. Again: you do not have to have a belief in a specific illness or accident, only that you should be punished. The accident or illness will fit in with the rest of your beliefs, but there can be dozens or hundreds of factors contributing to the final outcome.

And, of course, you may adopt an illness if you believe that illness is part of the aging process.

Please don't misread this and believe that I am blaming people for their illnesses. You can't be held responsible for something you are not consciously aware of doing. All you can do is try to become more conscious of your real beliefs and intentions because your intention is manifested as an exact duplicate of your actual beliefs. If you are experiencing difficulties, you need to examine your beliefs a little more carefully and see how your beliefs in one area (success, relationship, etc.) may be having an impact on another area (health, security, etc.).

I would argue that 'negative' personalities who have everything they desire and 'positive' personalities who never seem to catch a break are still manifesting in accordance with their own beliefs. Can you tell me definitively that the 'positive' personality doesn't secretly harbor the belief that they 'never seem to catch a break'? Or that the 'negative' personality doesn't believe that they are successful in spite of their beliefs about the wider world in general? You can hold all sorts of beliefs below the threshold of consciousness. You will never be aware of them unless you make a point of investigating and overcome your fear of being honest with yourself.

Even someone who believes in the LoA may find themselves perpetually frustrated if they don't believe that they deserve to have good things happen to them, or that they are somehow defective, or that money or success is spiritually suspect, or they focus too much on how something should manifest (and fail to find a convincing means they can believe in) instead of that something should happen, etc. There are literally hundreds of reasons why the LoA won't seem to work for you even if you believe in it as a principal and all of these reasons will faithfully duplicate your actual beliefs.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

Originally Posted by cylon

And you don't have to consciously make yourself breathe.

Your breath happens all on its own. If you had to consciously make yourself inhale and exhale every time, all your attention would be used up, and there'd be no room in your awareness for anything else.

I would just like to point out that the vast majority of people, especially those with chronic depression and anxiety, breathe too shallowly and use the incorrect muscles for breathing. The low level oxygen deprivation results in the symptomatic experience of constant anxiety, which can lead to learned helplessness and thus depression.

Thus, the science of pranayama was born. Yoga that deals specifically and only with breath retention and conditioning the proper muscles for breathing.

In therapeutic intervention for those with chronic anxiety one of the first things to try is teaching the patient to breathe properly.

I'd like to invite everyone to bring conscious awareness to their natural breathing pattern. I also think that this is the real basis for consistent powerful manifestations.

While the body and breathe can operate without conscious thought, they function optimally when you bring consciousness into every body cell.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

It's often the case that a negative thought doesn't manifest because it is counteracted by another belief about how to prevent the subject-matter of the first thought from manifesting.

Eg if you hold this thought:

"I am growing old, and therefore am at risk of getting Alzhemiers"

and you also hold this belief:

"Consuming fish oil and keeping mentally active will help to prevent Alzheimers"

and you proceed to consume fish oils and stay mentally active, then you can stave off the manifestation of Alzheimers.

Yeah but my father believed he was going to die of a heart attack from the time he was 25 years old. His father died in front of him so from that point on, he was convinced he would die at 52 as well. According to my mother, when he turned 50, he would come home drunk telling her how he only had 2 years to live. It never happened and yet it was part of his belief for a very long time. Maybe it wasn't in his destiny to die at 52 or to have prostate cancer or any other type of imaginary illness he could think of?

And the 3 year old with leukemia, was it his thoughts that attracted this or did his consciousness decide to give him that experience?

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

Originally Posted by snowflake

Yeah but my father believed he was going to die of a heart attack from the time he was 25 years old. His father died in front of him so from that point on, he was convinced he would die at 52 as well. According to my mother, when he turned 50, he would come home drunk telling her how he only had 2 years to live. It never happened and yet it was part of his belief for a very long time. Maybe it wasn't in his destiny to die at 52 or to have prostate cancer or any other type of imaginary illness he could think of?

Did he truly believe that he was going to die of a heart attack? Can you know this for sure, 100%?

I mean, I was very close to my father but I won't venture to comment on his deeply held beliefs. Children are rarely privy to those things. They may observe behavior and hear the words spoken - but those are only the elements that we choose to share with others. Few of us share the truths of our heart, especially those with substance abuse issues.

I say not only as a child, but also as a parent myself.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi

Did he truly believe that he was going to die of a heart attack? Can you know this for sure, 100%?

I was too young to remember but according to both my father and mother, yes, he was convinced he was going to die of a heart attack. He only started drinking at age 50 because he was depressed that he only had 2 years left of life lol. Maybe it just wasn't meant to be? Our egos like to think we have complete control over our lives. Think negative thoughts = attract bad things. Think good thoughts = attract good things. Maybe it's not that simple? Maybe there is such a thing as destiny? We also have a very limited view of what is good and what is bad. Cancer is seen as bad from the egoic point of view but it can turn out to be an incredible spiritual journey.

[shasah]

Originally Posted by truant

Your health is also dictated by your beliefs. The type of illness you get depends on your beliefs, and will be a match for your beliefs, but isn't consciously selected. If you believe that you have limitations in a certain area, and you believe in illness, then the belief will manifest an illness to justify your belief in the limitation. The type of illness depends on the limitation you believe in.

This is one of the areas that I diverge from the majority of manifesters. I don't believe that we manifest the majority of illnesses upon ourselves. I do not believe that a child who gets cancer manifested it upon themselves, I do not believe that children are starving because they manifested it upon themselves, I do not believe that a child is beaten because he/she manifested it. I also feel that when it is said that others are not real but a part of our own consciousness, it's a cop out, a way to not face the things about ourselves and our world that we don't like. When I first started looking into LOA, manifestation and the subconscious, there was one person on these forums that tried to deny all negativity and then all of a sudden would lash out in frustration because it just is not true. To experience positive, there must be negative. To have light, there must be darkness. To enjoy happiness, one must know sadness. Otherwise you just stagnate in perpetual dissolution.

Having suffered from hypochondria myself, I can assure you that, at least in my own case, it is a specific kind of belief-structure. Hypochondriacs believe that their physical well-being is at risk, and that their bodies cannot be trusted, and they seek out evidence to support their beliefs by identifying and magnifying normal physical sensations. They do not believe they have the illness, they believe they are at risk, so their belief is faithfully manifested as a state of perpetual risk. Their thinking runs along the line of: "Well, since I believe that I can't trust my body to take care of itself, and since I feel anxious and threatened, and since people are getting sick all of the time, I should be on the lookout for anything out of the ordinary in my physical sensations." They focus their energy and attention on being at risk of illness and create and sustain a manifestation of being perpetually at risk.

While I do believe that hypochondria is a condition of the mind, I don't believe it has to do with manifestation. Otherwise, a hypochondriac would manifest the actual conditions upon themselves.

A person who suffers from a real illness rarely ever intends a specific illness. Rather, they believe so strongly in a limitation, and in illness, that their limitation takes the form of an illness. An illness that fits the limitation.

Once again, I have to disagree. A person that follows a life of fitness and falls down on a basketball court with congenitive heart failure does not believe strongly in a limitation and in illness, nor does someone who smokes 4 packs of cigarettes a day expect that they're going to live to be 93 years old, but sometimes they do.

Can you tell me definitively that the 'positive' personality doesn't secretly harbor the belief that they 'never seem to catch a break'? Or that the 'negative' personality doesn't believe that they are successful in spite of their beliefs about the wider world in general?

Can you tell me definitively that they do? None of this is definitive. If it were, then everyone would believe and know about it and practice it.

You can hold all sorts of beliefs below the threshold of consciousness. You will never be aware of them unless you make a point of investigating and overcome your fear of being honest with yourself.

No, you will never be aware of all of them, no matter what. You can investigate, you can overcome fears, but you can always go deeper. While we use 100% of our brain, we don't necessarily have the volume all the way up.

Even someone who believes in the LoA may find themselves perpetually frustrated if they don't believe that they deserve to have good things happen to them, or that they are somehow defective, or that money or success is spiritually suspect, or they focus too much on how something should manifest (and fail to find a convincing means they can believe in) instead of that something should happen, etc. There are literally hundreds of reasons why the LoA won't seem to work for you even if you believe in it as a principal and all of these reasons will faithfully duplicate your actual beliefs.

Once again, in my world, LOA doesn't equal manifestation. Law of Attraction to me means that as you treat others, you will receive the same back. Intention manifestation, on the other hand can be accomplished by someone who is a mean, ornery cuss or not accomplished by the sweetest, most sincere person you could hope to meet. The simplified version of course, but you get my drift.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by shasah

Once again, I have to disagree. A person that follows a life of fitness and falls down on a basketball court with congenitive heart failure does not believe strongly in a limitation and in illness, nor does someone who smokes 4 packs of cigarettes a day expect that they're going to live to be 93 years old, but sometimes they do.

This is the other side of the LOA which people often don't realise.

You can attract experiences, without having actually conceptualised them in the form in which they arrive.

Example:

My son was supposed to take a certain test. He did not want to take the test. When the day came for the test, he fell ill - genuinely ill, with fever, runny nose, bad cough, yellow phlegm etc, such that he could not take the test.

He probably did not think of illness. Yet illness arrived, the effect of which was that he did not take the test.

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Such events occur all the time. A person would say, "I did not think of X, why did X occur to me?". The answer is often that X arrives as a perfect reflection of his thoughts about other things.

[shasah]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

This is the other side of the LOA which people often don't realise.

You can attract experiences, without having actually conceptualised them in the form in which they arrive.

Example:

My son was supposed to take a certain test. He did not want to take the test. When the day came for the test, he fell ill - genuinely ill, with fever, runny nose, bad cough, yellow phlegm etc, such that he could not take the test.

He probably did not think of illness. Yet illness arrived, the effect of which was that he did not take the test.

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Such events occur all the time. A person would say, "I did not think of X, why did X occur to me?". The answer is often that X arrives as a perfect reflection of his thoughts about other things.

In the example you give, yes, I can see it. What about the child who gets beaten every day just because he's there? What about the woman in the prime of life that gets breast cancer and dies while her children still need her? What about the man who loses his job and can no longer support his family? The homeless that cannot deal with society? There are so many examples that I could give.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by shasah

In the example you give, yes, I can see it. What about the child who gets beaten every day just because he's there? What about the woman in the prime of life that gets breast cancer and dies while her children still need her? What about the man who loses his job and can no longer support his family? The homeless that cannot deal with society? There are so many examples that I could give.

I'd respond in detail - but the question has been discussed many times before. Popular examples include the starving child in Africa, and the people who got blown up in 911.

From a philsophical perspective, the question is interesting. From a purely practical perspective (eg actually using the LOA to improve specific aspects of your life), the question becomes much less interesting.

The question is actually quite similar to questions such as:

"If there is a God and He is kind and loving, why would He allow [miscellaneous tragedy] to occur to [insert victim type]?"

or

"Why do bad things happen to [good]/[innocent] people?"

[cylon]

I'm glad this has turned into another "what about all the starving people?" thread.

I must have expected that on some level.

[shasah]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

From a philsophical perspective, the question is interesting. From a purely practical perspective (eg actually using the LOA to improve specific aspects of your life), the question becomes much less interesting.

For once, I was trying to keep the personal out of it but from a purely practical perspective, it is very interesting to me. Ten years ago, I was diagnosed with cancer. At the time, my life was everything I wanted. I was happy and relatively care free. This disease took many years of my life and turned me into a person that I do not admire and that I actually started to hate.

My kids were young and had to deal with years of fear and worry. I had to worry about whether I wanted to put my family through this trauma or if I just wanted to end it and make sure they were protected. I went through years of being a couch potato because I knew that I couldn't do things that other people could do. I gained weight, I didn't take good care of myself. I did not become self aware, nor did I gain anything for many years to come. I faced my mortality and instead of gaining from it, I became a robot.

The only way any of that makes sense to me is if time is irrelevant. And maybe to the universe that is so. Fortunately I was able to dig my way out of my misery and my children were able to grow through my problems without a lot of ill effect. Having an automaton for a mom could not have been the most pleasant thing in the world. To me, the question is very personal because I lost 8 years of life to a disease and I have no understanding of how I "manifested" that into my life and the lives of my family.

I'm sure there are others out there that have gone through the same type of situation. It is so easy to say that people manifest illness into their lives, but when you live through it, it makes no sense.

I respect your perspective but I am not going to adhere to other people's beliefs just because I am told it is so. I am discovering new things about myself every day and I want to make sure that my beliefs are MY beliefs.

[Acting Like Godot]

You will always be manifesting a lot of things without really knowing exactly how. That's because the creation process involves your conscious mind, subconscious mind, unconscious mind and superconscious mind. Of those four parts, the smallest chunk (by far) is the conscious mind, and that's the only part where you (ordinarily) will know well.

Of course, from the purely practical perspective, you have no necessity at all, for believing what I said about. (Which is why I stated that from the purely practical perspective, your question is not interesting).

From the purely practical perspective, you would go a long way, if you just accepted, for instance, that:

(1) Stress is a cause and a contributing factor for a huge range of illnesses

(2) Stress is psychological and intimately connected with your thoughts.

Therefore thinking positively and managing your emotions well (which are two big components of any LOA practice) already reduces your risk of stress-related illnesses and medical conditions.

This includes:


· heart disease

· chronic fatigue

· anxiety attacks

· mood swings

· psychological distress

· depression

· sleep problems

· high blood pressure

· eating disorders

· peptic ulcers

· poor immune function

· chronic pain

· colds

· flu

· viruses

· headaches

· migraines

· alcoholism

· smoking-related respiratory aliments


tearfulness

skin problems, such as eczema

aches and pains from tense muscles, including neck ache, backache and tension headaches

increased pain from arthritis and other conditions

stomach problems including constipation, diarrhoea or ulcers

for women, missed periods

Etc etc

[Kishka]

Cylon, here is a short Mooji lecture on your topic of discussion, beautifully expressed:

YouTube - Trusting the Universe ~ Two Minutes from a Satsang with Mooji

Enjoy!!

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by cylon

I'm glad this has turned into another "what about all the starving people?" thread.

I must have expected that on some level.

It has been a while hasn't it?