You Don't Intend For Your Heart To Beat

[Acting Like Godot]

How are you now, Lil Chris? I remember you had assorted health issues (quite serious) when you first started using the LOA, a few years ago.

[truant]

Originally Posted by shasah

This is one of the areas that I diverge from the majority of manifesters. I don't believe that we manifest the majority of illnesses upon ourselves...

I fully expect many people to disagree with this perspective. It is the result of my own meditations and reflections and may be incorrect. I encourage you to explore this issue in greater detail, since you are the only one who can be an authority on your own experience. In my own experience, I can attribute every one of my illnesses, mental or physical, to certain structures of beliefs and compensatory gains. It is incorrect of me to attribute my own experience to others, however.

As far as the question of evil goes, I have provided my own thoughts on another thread. You may not agree with it, but it will at least provide you with another perspective --> God and suffering.

My sympathies for your experience. That must have been a very difficult time for you.

[cylon]

Originally Posted by Kishka

Cylon, here is a short Mooji lecture on your topic of discussion, beautifully expressed:

YouTube - Trusting the Universe ~ Two Minutes from a Satsang with Mooji

Enjoy!!

Very cool! It shows that something much more powerful than conscious, every day thought is going on.

[Lil Chris]

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

How are you now, Lil Chris? I remember you had assorted health issues (quite serious) when you first started using the LOA, a few years ago.

Ya know, things are pretty good. I've been able to get rid of 90% of my daily pain (that came through the 30 day group manifestation, if you remember that, through ridiculously priced medication that I basically get for free) So that is fantastic!. I've also been hospital free (since last time we chatted when you did the remote viewing thing, long time ago) where you had mentioned tummy issues (it was an abscess, that once drained I started to feel great) and no issues sense.

It's interesting you bring it up, even though this great stuff has happened. I don't necessarily feel I had much influence on these things happening, I mean I do in a sense, but not that I would have typically thought. So I still take an observer type stance, rather than a conscious one, if that makes any sense... I'm still waiting for my A-HA moment

[Monk]

Originally Posted by snowflake

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Our egos like to think we have complete control over our lives. Think negative thoughts = attract bad things. Think good thoughts = attract good things. Maybe it's not that simple? Maybe there is such a thing as destiny؟...

It's simple-but yes, not that simple.

Buddha put the secret of destiny and philosophy of karma in a few words when he said, "Rain soaks through an ill-thatched roof, but into a well-roofed house it cannot penetrate."

So yes, it may rain. Actually it does, on every roof and house. But we usually don't understand why it does or what to do with it. We just refuse the rain. We just hate it. And we defiantly demand or at least want it to never rain again in our life. Thus we only aspire, for example, for financial freedom. We desire independence. We seek control, and power. We, in other words, want to break the Laws, which we know they are the Laws, but hopefully with our positive thoughts or the LOA or whatever, also with some assistance from our lovely and helpful friends here like ALG, Cylon or Anagogy, just for example, we believe we finally may.

Yet, the Laws are immutable, and inexorable. Nothing is more futile, stupid and even immoral than our relentless endeavor to break the Laws. And as you must have read before, many dreamers throughout history tried to fly, had the will and means and tried to fly, made every kind of wing and tail and just tried to fly; still, they all failed, and fell. Only when we understood the Laws of aviation not only could we fly, but also build such huge machines in which an entire neighborhood may fly together, further in the sky than any dreamer had ever thought or imagined.

The Laws, therefore, are to be patiently understood, not defiantly broken. They are our masters, but once understood, our slaves. And now because we talk about the greatest of laws, the Law of destiny, life manifestation and reality changing; because this is truly the Supreme Law, the irony now is complete, and the paradox is stunning: The very change we seek is the reason the Law remains stubbornly disobedient and unusable. The very condition we resist, therefore, persists, by the same Law, even grows and dominates in our life. The change we want in our reality and circumstances, therefore, rather begins with acceptance of our reality and circumstances. Acceptance, ironically, itself is the first step to change. And this is amusingly the first fact we all need to remember if we sincerely and seriously want to understand the Supreme Law; to use it instead of letting it use us and master our life.

Man's first problem and veil, I do believe, is his own mind. In ancient Persia, the twelve months of the year have been divided into two equal sections of six each; the six summer months were attributed to the influence of the god of light, while the six winter months were supposed to be under the direction of an adversary. After the captivity in Babylon, this hideous error deeply disturbed the current Jewish thought, and against it the second Isaiah fought vigorously. Yet, regardless how foolish it may sound now, this same false doctrine is still dominating our thought today, and until it is entirely removed from our consciousness we'll remain slaves of fate instead of becoming its masters.

In order to understand the Law of Destiny, we have to first realize and admit that there is no such thing as bad or evil. There is no such thing as god of light versus god of darkness. Afflictions don't pour on people's heads because they sinned, or because the Lord is angry, or because it's lonely and boring in heaven so He's just seeking some entertainment. When the rain starts, it's for a reason. All that comes our way has a meaning, and a lesson. All that comes our way, therefore, we have to accept, rather gladly embrace, and just peacefully wonder why it came, what to learn from, how to handle and how to conquer.

When this understanding is fully realized, whoever we have today in our life is a friend, and whatever we have is but a stepping stone, merely there to take us higher, make us better, and leave us finer, wiser and richer. It's only our limited mind, therefore, that makes of our friends dark foes and enemies, and views our stepping stones as bad circumstances and evil conditions. And it's only when our mind does this that we truly have the pain, and that we truly suffer. As one of our teachers masterfully put it, "Those things are not evil which we have not yet learned to conquer, but we are in an evil condition so long as we call them evil."

Our bad circumstances and evil conditions are like masses of hard and cold stone, and we are like sculptors. The sculptor before the stone doesn't panic or fear or worry or retreat. He rather feels excited. He rather happily conquers the stone with his chisels, puts its roughness and hardness under the command of his Will, and from the shapeless mass brings out an exquisite fate, a statue so marvelous it seems like it could speak.






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[Monk]

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In this statue, stone is still stone, as hard and cold as it was when first taken from the quarry. But the sculptor, having accomplished his purpose, can now rejoice in his achievement, point to it joyfully and exclaim, "This is my masterpiece; in this stone I have made manifest my genius."

So fates we cannot evade, but we can and we must conquer.

Once conquered, the lesson is over, the step is taken, and we do have the choice to live in the eternal now of truth and being, or in the illusory past of pain and suffering.

We do have the choice to stand up, rise confident and proud, rejoice in our achievement, feel our triumph and joyfully cry, "I did it! I DID IT!"... or instead shrink in the past, surrender to the memories of pain and agony, bitterly count the wounds we've for long suffered, grieve for all that we missed, and even mourn the years we lost, as if we knew in advance how many years our contract with life covers.


Thus all in all, and still like a sculptor, only 3 things are all we need to master the Law of life and destiny: Knowledge, Skill, and Will.


The Knowledge, in its highest temple, will teach us about the nature of the stone we are to shape and handle. It will reveal for us that everything is but a thought, and that all is Mind. It will teach us that time, space, causality, even ego, all are but illusions.

Before we get there, however, Knowledge will first teach us the lesson of Acceptance, and that we, in acceptance, should never fear or worry or hesitate or doubt.

But even before this, it's still Knowledge that will tell us about our deepest emotions and scariest demons. About the beliefs that confine our mighty hearts and souls, and the thoughts that literally tie our hands and feet. About the 3 ugly chains that drag us all like blind slaves in life, unconsciously seeking either security, or approval, or control.


The Skill is the tools and means. The sculptor's chisels. The Craft, and The Art. The magic. The Skill is the how-to, still with our mind. And it's only now and here that we may come to such modern toys like LOA, put the model of Attraction or of Resonance, choose our techniques and methods, visualize or affirm, charge our thoughts, try and fail and try and fail and just try again.


The Will, finally, is the crown of man, and the mightiest power in our life. "I Can and I Will" is the motto that all Masters of the past used.

But unfortunately, most people don't understand the Will; just confuse it with stubbornness or obstinacy. The Will, rather, is the supreme Power of Mind, and thus the fabric of the entire character. It's our ability to steadily persevere until our purpose is accomplished. The real power of Will, therefore, is not measured by the enormous energy we may throw into some special effort, but by our ability to carry out a continuous course of conduct.

Stubbornness, obstinacy and headstrong action are not the expression of a strong Will. As another great teacher also taught us, "Such demonstrations and characteristics are the result of an uncontrolled Will. They are but spasmodic outbursts that leave the Will weaker than before, and at the same time cause the person to become discouraged with his own weakness and lack of self-control."

Will, therefore, is to decide, adhere, persevere as long as you have reason to believe you are right. "But do not be obstinate or unreasonable. It often requires a stronger Will to acknowledge a mistake than it does to stand obstinately by an error. When you see that you have made a mistake, exercise your Will and correct it."

People whose Will is weak spend long time hesitating as to which of two things to do, and they usually do neither. People whose Will is weak just complain, rather talk than act, weave more dreams than goals, ask about attracting but never about planning, and aspire to change their conditions but never their habits.

They may be flat broke, still wake up late everyday, do nothing, look messy and smell awful; and in search for a solution, go finally meet their special one--as broke--to just wonder together how, using the LOA, they may manifest a million dollars. Worse, more ironical, and more sarcastic, they may come to these very forums to just express, given their conditions, the most bizarre of interests: "Hi folks; am a new member here. I've been following Steve for two years now and I'm very interested in Subjective Reality."

Believe me, snowflake, if you were God or Destiny, you'd never leave these guys alone.

For such guys, a guru, or rather a nightmare like Larry Winget was born.

This is how Larry, definitely an expert in human nature, usually starts:

"Before we begin let's make sure we understand one another. 'What you think about and talk about comes about' is not the real secret. You want the real secret? Here it is: What you think about, talk about, and get off your ass and do something about comes about. This is the real secret."



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So yes, it's simple, but not that simple.
Sorry for a lengthy post. But, hopefully by now obvious, it's still our mind and still our thoughts that truly make our life, create our conditions and shape our destiny.


And from the Vedas, let's finally go home with these beautiful and all revealing verses:


O Son of Spirit, I have created thee rich. How is it thou art poor? And made thee mighty. How is it thou art weak? And from the very essence of Love and Wisdom I have manifested thee. How is it thou occupiest thyself with someone else? Turn thy sight to thyself that thou mayest find ME standing in thee, Mighty—Powerful—Supreme.



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[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Lil Chris

Ya know, things are pretty good. I've been able to get rid of 90% of my daily pain (that came through the 30 day group manifestation, if you remember that, through ridiculously priced medication that I basically get for free) So that is fantastic!. I've also been hospital free (since last time we chatted when you did the remote viewing thing, long time ago) where you had mentioned tummy issues (it was an abscess, that once drained I started to feel great) and no issues sense.

I'm glad for you, my friend.

[Lil Chris]

Thank you kindly