The Most Effective Way to Manifest: Intend and Forget or Intend and Expect ?

[Silenced140]

We've been having a debate so I want to here everyone's opinions.

Two methods of manifesting... 1. Intend what you want, feel it's reality and visualize. And then just totally forget about it. Which apparently works for some people.

2. Intend, imagine and feel good. And then think about your desire all the time. I've intended what I want, and I now believe that it's coming to me. This is my career. But I keep thinking about it often in life. Not negatively, but very positively.

Throughout the day I feel good to think about it because I remember that in a short while, I'm going to be enjoying the great life. And I feel it.




So what are your opinions ? Intend and then totally forget. Or intend and keep thinking about it and faithfully expecting it ?

[Indigo4]

I write down exactly what i want on a green piece of paper and put a date when I want it to happen by. Green represents money energy. Then I sellotape it to my wall and forget about it.

I've manifested a job this way after being six months unemployed.

When I was taking ormus I manifested tons and tons of things with hardly any effort however the orums also gave me nightmares so I've stopped taking it and just use the above method.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by Silenced140

So what are your opinions ? Intend and then totally forget. Or intend and keep thinking about it and faithfully expecting it ?

Why not try both methods and see what works for you? I think both methods can work but one requires a lot of effort while the other one doesn't. Since 99% of us live in our heads and egos, we think that everything happens because of the thinking process. We believe that thinking creates. Our egos want to control the creation process instead of letting go and trusting the universe to bring us what we intended. When you truely trust someone, do you have to annoy them day and night with your desire? You may ask a few times, clearly and in a focused manner but if you have complete faith in that person, there's no need to ask again and again every couple of minutes.

As Deepak Chopra says in the LOA video, intention comes from the heart area, not the head. You think a thought first and then you feel the intention with your heart. You get the ego out of the way because it is dysfunctional. It believes that it is the real you. The real you is consciousness, not the ego so it's consciousness that creates. The ego is obsessive, consciousness is laid back, creates effortlessly, is all wise and knowing.

[SatvikBeri]

Eh. Think of it as an equation, Success = Energy - Resistance. You can modify either Energy or Resistance in many ways. Both setting and forgetting and setting and expecting are ways of lowering your resistance. You can also lower your resistance through Meditation, Magick, Hypnosis, and other methods of subconscious suggestion. You can also increase your energy through various methods such as putting in a lot of emotion.

Personally I find setting and forgetting to be easier, but only if I have a long term horizon.

[SlicK]

Intend and Expect, for a lot of reasons:

• Drive
• Purpose
• Passion
• Feeling good
• Fast results
• Feeling focused
• Using energy effectively

And the list could go on...
Intend and forget is good for things that are not so important and would waste our precious and limited attention.
And yeah, it is just an opinion. Whatever is good for you is good for you

[snowflake]

Slick, that's only because you believe big important things require more thinking and dedication. It's as easy to manifest big things as it is for small things. Your BELIEF that one is easier than the other is the determining factor.

Why would "intend and let go" only work for smaller things?

[Living2xcess]

Intend and Take Action

[cortocabezas1111]

be honest!

Most important step ever is to be honest.

Honest honest honest honest honest.

You need to be honest about the way you choose to perceive something. You can choose to perceive anything any way you want to. If you perceive your intention to be out of reach, or impossible, or you are afraid for it to come true for whatever reasons, than that's how it's going to be for you. However you perceive it, is how it is. Instead think of what you want, pay attention to how it feels, don't force a feeling, but just see what feelings and thoughts arrise what you think of your intention. If it feels uneasy, or makes you worried or just like impossible for that intention to happen, investigate and find out why it feels that way.

It's like your a monkey, who wants a banana, but he's wearing "Bananas don't exist" sunglasses that makes all bananas invisible to him. He's wearing these sunglasses, desperately wishing for a banana that he won't ever get, until he realizes it's just the sunglasses tinted out the bananas, and there's actually tons and tons and tons of bananas around him already.

[positive power]

If it is best to intend and forget then why do we visualize? Is this in fact counter productive? If we believe that visualization is the best way to manifest then surely this will effect the outcome. Maybe it is not as much fun but easier to just have lots of intentions and 'let go' of all of them?
The other thing to consider is are we actually forgetting because if the intention is stored in the consciousness or energy field it is not actually forgotten.

[Rubns]

Originally Posted by positive power

If it is best to intend and forget then why do we visualize?

You can visualize once per intention and then forget about it. I've gotten better results this way, specially with small manifestations.

[snowflake]

Originally Posted by positive power

If it is best to intend and forget then why do we visualize? Is this in fact counter productive? If we believe that visualization is the best way to manifest then surely this will effect the outcome. Maybe it is not as much fun but easier to just have lots of intentions and 'let go' of all of them?
The other thing to consider is are we actually forgetting because if the intention is stored in the consciousness or energy field it is not actually forgotten.

Visualization is useless if it doesn't lead to a feeling of having it now. Author Gregg Braden says "feeling is the prayer". Visualization is not necessary, it's the feeling that is the language of consciousness. For some people, visualization is a helpful tool to get into the feeling of having the desire but if you only visualize in your mind, it's not enough.

Deepak Chopra talks about consciousness being the gap between thoughts. You must enter that gap and then speak directly to consciousness, God, The Field, The Divine Matrix or whatever you want to call it.

[SlicK]

Why would "intend and let go" only work for smaller things?

Where did I say that

Intend and Take Action

Like saying: "Light the fire and burn it". If you light the fire, it will burn.

Edit: for a little more clarity...

Intention means this is what will be
Forgetting means letting your subconscious take care of business
Focusing gives you the opportunity to monitor and fine-tune the process. Not worth to do this if your intention is to eat something delicious tomorrow. Set and forget. If your intention is to buy a beautiful house in a beautiful spot so you can happily live there with your beautiful wife, you may focus, if you want to. I would want to because it would be something that would be worth my attention and energy and I can help my subconscious help me faster. There's a lot more to focus but it's really a long story.

[Acting Like Godot]

For me, I think that it depends on the type of goal.

Intending and forgetting works well for:

(1) goals where I can't (or believe that I can't) really take any significant actions anyway; or

(2) goals which are whimsical, amusing, cute .... but which, in the bigger picture of things, I don't really care that much whether they actually happen or not.

It would be difficult to forget a goal which matters a lot to you, or to stop thinking about a goal where you have to (or believe you have to) take a substantial amount of action.

[Silenced140]

I think it must be a more personal thing. Like Snowflake was saying. It's the feeling that counts. I just tried forgetting for a day and I feel odd..

This life I'm living now sucks and not full of the amazing things that thinking about my intention gives me. I know what you mean when you try to forget. It helps you feel good about how your intention is manifesting. Like giving it up to the universe.


My technique of expectancy isn't some hard forced process. While I'm playing video games relaxing I'll think about how great it's gonna feel to hear the thunderous applause as I walk up to the podium at the Oscars or feel the snow at the summit of Everest. Perhaps both techniques work equally as good, just as long as it gives us the feeling of our desire.

We can tell what the subconscious is working on based on our feelings as I've been told before. Unless anyone has any ideas on that.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by SatvikBeri

Eh. Think of it as an equation, Success = Energy - Resistance. You can modify either Energy or Resistance in many ways. Both setting and forgetting and setting and expecting are ways of lowering your resistance. You can also lower your resistance through Meditation, Magick, Hypnosis, and other methods of subconscious suggestion. You can also increase your energy through various methods such as putting in a lot of emotion.

Personally I find setting and forgetting to be easier, but only if I have a long term horizon.

I agree with you SatvikBeri, and I like your formula there.

[Matthew Cluff]

I think it should be a bit of a combination of both.

One of the major factors in having something become attracted into your life (that you want to have attracted) is to have a desire for it to come true, a belief that it can happen, and the expectation for it to happen!

By visualizing every day, you're re-impressing that image into your subconscious mind constantly, which is where the Law of Attraction responds to.

However, what is meant by the intention and forgetting isn't totally just letting it happen all on it's own. For attraction to work, you must constantly fantasize living the life you really want to. Once you've experienced these visualizations, then you can let the universe work it's magic through proper action taken on your part.

When you release your image to the universe to take care of, you must put your self into a state of gratitude. Gratitude aligns you up with the infinite powers of the universe. Being grateful, you reach upon all and all shall reach upon you.

Once you're in a state of gratitude, give. Give and you shall receive. Whatever force you put out into the universe it will come back.

So visualize often, expect it to happen, then let it go and put yourself into a state of gratitude and unconditional giving.

[Richful]

All sounds a bit complicated to me, this process, that process. .. ....

I find that the smaller things that I have no inhibitions about manifest on their own, almost without my intervention. Like wanting to hear a certain song on the radio... I won't visualize or anything, I won't be expecting it, I won't even decide it's an intention - just a little desire, then it just happens, it's a surprise and it's awesome

Other desires that I have beliefs or inhibitions about require a Path to manifest in my life. Like if I want to live in a new house, I have to look for one. If I think that they're all too expensive I decide I'll find something cheaper with the same features and keep looking - something turns up. I suppose if I believed fantastic things happen to me I'd be able to decide and then win a house! Or maybe win the lottery and buy one or by a twist of fate inherit one, who knows... I'm not that advanced with my belief scrubbing

There is always a lot of talk about gratitude and emotions during these discussions. It is very lovely and does everyone credit, but I think it's unnecessary. Feels like mixing Spiritual practice with what is essentially: "How to get what you want"
People who are "not spiritually advanced" can also use these gifts. You can totally manifest something you asked for and it not be to your benefit.
I think asking yourself what you want and why is the Spiritual or Ethical part of this practice. The rest works regardless.

Having said that... Peace, out o/

[SlicK]

I think it must be a more personal thing. Like Snowflake was saying. It's the feeling that counts. I just tried forgetting for a day and I feel odd..

That's basically it. Simply put, if it feels good, do it. Focusing on goals that matter for me, makes ME feel good. I can feel all the things I desire and it makes me feel grateful. Then I get ideas about things I can do or I do some things instinctively and after a while, those things set some other things in motion. Some times no action is required from my part. Anyway, whatever needs to happen, happens and what I feel I get. Some people have a hard time realizing that THEY ARE PART OF THE MANIFESTATION PROCESS. When "the universe shifts" your body also shifts if it has to. When you do it right, if action is required, you will do what has to be done, sometimes without even realizing. Your body is not you. It's just like in a dream. Your body is creation of the mind. Your surroundings are creation of mind. Everything is creation of mind. YOU are the independent observer and creator.

Some people have a problem with thinking too much about a goal because the more they think about it, the more it seems out of reach. It can't happen because of this, it's hard because of that, I don't have it now and it sucks etc.

Again, simply put, feels good -> do it, feels bad -> drop it.

[positive power]

Slick, thanks for reminding us that we need to FEEL, we need to get into the feeling, far too often I think the language of manifestation refers to thoughts and thinking. The emotional guidance counter is good for monitoring your feelings. The trouble is the negative feelings can be so powerful that maybe that is why the other smaller stuff can manifest. The negative army of feelings haven't got time to get in there and create havoc and sabotage.

[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by Richful

There is always a lot of talk about gratitude and emotions during these discussions. It is very lovely and does everyone credit, but I think it's unnecessary.

I think it's unnecessary too.

I do a lot of successful manifesting from a zone of deep calm and quiet. That's more than enough. No need to feel excitement, passionate, grateful or exuberant.

[SlicK]

The trouble is the negative feelings can be so powerful that maybe that is why the other smaller stuff can manifest.

Impossible to feel negative without thinking about something negative. Train your mind. It's just like taking a dog for a walk. Depending on the personality of the dog and how you trained it, it will walk WITH YOU or run around everywhere and won't listen to you. The same goes for mind. For most people it runs around everywhere and rarely listens to it's owner. Now that is normal and it's something that can be fixed. The bad thing is that some do not realize it and they go like "I am thinking about having bags of money and I feel like ♥♥♥♥♥!". No... you are thinking about NOT having the bags of money, you are thinking about bills, you are thinking about empty wallet and so on... but you don't realize it. There's also something I call "surface thinking" and something I call "immersive thinking" which better describes the process of visualizing. Visualizing sounds like something you "see" but it's much more than that and it does a lot of "damage" to the subconscious

[xtn12]

Originally Posted by Silenced140

We've been having a debate so I want to here everyone's opinions.

Two methods of manifesting... 1. Intend what you want, feel it's reality and visualize. And then just totally forget about it. Which apparently works for some people.

2. Intend, imagine and feel good. And then think about your desire all the time. I've intended what I want, and I now believe that it's coming to me. This is my career. But I keep thinking about it often in life. Not negatively, but very positively.

Throughout the day I feel good to think about it because I remember that in a short while, I'm going to be enjoying the great life. And I feel it.




So what are your opinions ? Intend and then totally forget. Or intend and keep thinking about it and faithfully expecting it ?

The way I see it...
With method 1.
works for some people because they are able to plant that seed of want in their subconscious better than others.

and method 2.
is that we are using "feel good" our emotions
to help plant that seed.

the analogy I use so my brain can understand it is....
Its like a hallway with doors lined up on both sides.
You ask what you want. and then listen for the knock at the doors.
And Open the door to receive the want.