A Feather Should Equal A Feather?

[jackfrost]

Hi,

I have had a lot of success with the LOA but there is one thing that has always made me wonder. Why does having an object not manifest the same object again? Let me explain below what I mean:

Scenario 1: I go to sleep tonight and I visualize a blue feather. I feel this feather, smell it, see it and hold it in my hand all in first person during this visualization and know it will come. The blue feather does indeed come to me as it was taped to the door at a ladys house that I was delivering something to.

Scenario 2: I actually do find a blue feather and I feel it, smell it and hold it in my hand in first person. But now another feather does not come.

According to so many books I have read the sub conscious mind does not know the difference between imagination and reality. But if that's the case then why when I imagine a blue feather as close as I can to it actually really being in my hand does it manifest "another feather" while actually really having the feather in my hand does not manifest another feather?

If the mind truly cannot tell the difference from imagination and reality then both visualizing a feather in your mind and actually having a real feather in your hand should bring the same results. Which would be another feather for both situations.

Is it simply because I do not believe that just because I have a feather in my hand that im going to get another feather? But that doesn't make total sense either because I have had manifestations happen without any belief that they would happen.

So am I missing something here? I know I have had manifestations without being grateful and without believing that manifestation would come. Im just curious and im not doubting the LOA because I have done too many successful things with it now.

[Kishka]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

Why does having an object not manifest the same object again?

The only difference between the blue feather in your imagination and the blue feather you manifested is the element of DESIRE...

[Matthew Cluff]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

... Which would be another feather for both situations.

I disagree with this statement (the "another" part, in particular). It's true that the mind can't tell the difference between what's real and what's imagined, and with that being the case, only one feather would end up being manifested.

If you're imagining having a feather and:

(a) the situation is not true in reality and truly only imagined, you will attract a feather into your life to make your imagination's vision a reality; or

(b) the situation is true in reality, and in this case, your vision of having one feather would already be true because the feather has ALREADY been manifested.

If you wanted to attract another feather, you'd have to think of having two feathers.

For example, if you want to have $500,000 in your bank account:

(a) You currently only have $100 (or a relatively low amount) and you use visualization and the LoA to attract the desired money (through action) into your life; or

(b) You already have $500,000 in the bank, and when you imagine having $500,000 in the bank, it is truly just a reality already.

In the first example, you imagine one feather, and ultimately, whether currently true or not, your end result will be one feather.

In my example, you imagine $500,000, and ultimately, whether currently true or not, the end result will be $500,000.

What you imagine, through repetition, will become a reality; it may become a reality in THE FUTURE, though, or it may currently be a reality in THE PRESENT. Ultimately, if you already have it, you'd be trying to manifest something that you already have, which wouldn't cause another manifestation.

So am I missing something here? I know I have had manifestations without being grateful and without believing that manifestation would come. Im just curious and im not doubting the LOA because I have done too many successful things with it now.

You belief and gratitude may be expressed at a conscious level, but all the time, the LoA is responding to our minds at the subconscious level. Only through constant, continual repetition will these beliefs start to become ingrained into your subconscious mind and start to affect everything that comes into and out of your life.

The ultimate goal is to get our body (energy vibration), mind (conscious mind), and spirit (subconscious mind) all in alignment with one another to positively ensure such a manifestation.

I hope this clarifies things

To Your Success,
Matthew Cluff

[Monk]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

Scenario 1: I go to sleep tonight and I visualize a blue feather. I feel this feather, smell it, see it and hold it in my hand all in first person during this visualization and know it will come. The blue feather does indeed come to me as it was taped to the door at a ladys house that I was delivering something to.

Scenario 2: I actually do find a blue feather and I feel it, smell it and hold it in my hand in first person. But now another feather does not come.

Very tricky.

Yes, mind knows no difference between imagination and reality. However, *visualization* in the first scenario *itself* is a *creative* act. *Perception* in the second is *just* perception. Mere perception. So even if you set the *Intention* equally in both, which I assume you did, the *Work* is still missing in the second scenario, because actually there is no Work here; only perception.

This is very tricky so please pay me your attention: In the first scenario, again, the very visualization is the Work. If you instead of visualization used symbols or sigils for example, so now this is the Work. In other words, the whole process you mistakenly call LoA is not about *perception* real or imaginary. It's about the the Work, the Creative Agent, or precisely the *Symbolic Representation* of the outcome--be it mental (visualization), graphical (sigils/talismans/etc), vocal (affirmations/chants/prayers/etc), or kinetic (rituals/dances/etc.). So in the second scenario here you have only *perception*; there is no *representation*.

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[jackfrost]

Why is desire needed to manifest? I have manifested things without desire.

Matt, I understand what you are saying but im not sure you totally understand what im saying. LOL...im a bit lost now myself.

I see what you are saying too Monk but I still don't think it fully answers my question?

[Monk]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

I see what you are saying too Monk but I still don't think it fully answers my question?

No, it doesn't.


(Perhaps your question isn't clear enough? Perhaps I'm just not accustomed to this sort of... *advanced communications*? I *anyway* was/am sincerely willing to help, Jack. Good night for now.)


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[Kishka]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

Why is desire needed to manifest? I have manifested things without desire.

That's not the case with me... (shrugs)

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by jackfrost

Hi,

I have had a lot of success with the LOA but there is one thing that has always made me wonder. Why does having an object not manifest the same object again? Let me explain below what I mean:

Scenario 1: I go to sleep tonight and I visualize a blue feather. I feel this feather, smell it, see it and hold it in my hand all in first person during this visualization and know it will come. The blue feather does indeed come to me as it was taped to the door at a ladys house that I was delivering something to.

Scenario 2: I actually do find a blue feather and I feel it, smell it and hold it in my hand in first person. But now another feather does not come.

According to so many books I have read the sub conscious mind does not know the difference between imagination and reality.

Correct. The subconscious or reflexive part of your mind isn't programmed to only recognize the physical world as perceptibly real. However, your conscious mind does distinguish among them. The conscious self is directing the behavior of the subconscious/reflexive interface.

Originally Posted by jackfrost

But if that's the case then why when I imagine a blue feather as close as I can to it actually really being in my hand does it manifest "another feather" while actually really having the feather in my hand does not manifest another feather?

Because that was not your intent. The subtleties of your focus, which includes your belief/intent/thoughts, is what determines what you bring yourself into vibrational alignment with. If you are just observing a feather, then that is your focus, and that is your reality. That singular feather is what you are a vibrational match to. However if you looked at that feather, and then imagined a huge pile of feathers, you would then begin to gradually come into vibrational alignment with the experience of more feathers.

What you are focused upon -- what you are aware of -- is determining what experience you are attracting. Your experience of reality will gradually morph over time to match the images you are focused upon. If there is no difference between that image and your reality, then that is your vibrational set point.

In other-words, you are simply observing what is, for you, currently. You've arrived, and until you reset your destination coordinates by changing your focus, that is the reality you will experience.

Originally Posted by jackfrost

If the mind truly cannot tell the difference from imagination and reality then both visualizing a feather in your mind and actually having a real feather in your hand should bring the same results. Which would be another feather for both situations.

Is it simply because I do not believe that just because I have a feather in my hand that im going to get another feather? But that doesn't make total sense either because I have had manifestations happen without any belief that they would happen.

This can occur if there is no resistance to the possibility of the manifestation, meaning, if you don't have any strong beliefs contradicting the possibility of this happening, then it can occur in your experience through thought alone. Thought is kind of like "mini-belief". A belief is just a thought you chronically keep thinking -- a focus you've trained yourself to by default.

Therefore, no strong opposing beliefs = the same thing as believing it is possible by default.