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Old 11-09-2010, 08:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default SR: So Why Can't I FLY?

If I'm in a Subjective Reality of my own creation, and I can manifest things via the LOA; if history can be altered by things that happen in the present, and if I relate to reality like a waking dream, then why can't I fly?

I suppose it may take a lot of effort and practice, not to mention figuring out how to work "flying people" into my current world view. (For ex. who will be the first human to fly? What will be the global reaction? Will others learn to fly soon after? How long? Will it catch on or just be a fad? Will it cause a chain-reaction of other things previously believed impossible?) I would imagine if someone was advanced enough to fly s/he'd rather just teleport for most trips.

If I made the whole uninverse, why can't I just rewrite stuff? or CAN I??
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If I'm in a Subjective Reality of my own creation, and I can manifest things via the LOA; if history can be altered by things that happen in the present, and if I relate to reality like a waking dream, then why can't I fly?

I suppose it may take a lot of effort and practice, not to mention figuring out how to work "flying people" into my current world view. (For ex. who will be the first human to fly? What will be the global reaction? Will others learn to fly soon after? How long? Will it catch on or just be a fad? Will it cause a chain-reaction of other things previously believed impossible?) I would imagine if someone was advanced enough to fly s/he'd rather just teleport for most trips.

If I made the whole uninverse, why can't I just rewrite stuff? or CAN I??
The only person saying you cant fly is you. If you were saying you can fly, you would be flying. Please start taking responsibility for your current non-flying state.

Yes you did make the whole universe. But you also didnt. Do you unerstand?

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well perhaps you cant fly because you still hold the belief that you cant..by various reasons that only you know.

but when i was reading your title i immediately thought: i fly all the time...in my dreams,the ones that are vivid,i always ask to fly and it is the most awesome sensation.

so,yes you can fly and really feel it.it is happening even if you think you“re "only dreaming"
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I'm going to say that gravity is holding you back. That's just my guess though.
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I don't know about you, but in my reality I see many people flying and I am astounded. They all pile into a heavy contraption which is then accelerated to speed that causes lift off and stays up :O and some of these contraptions can even break the sound barrier :O The fact that many people believe these things work could only be magic.
Honestly, I know this isn't what you are talking about but it focuses on one of my belief structures I am trying to keep at the forefront. Growing up you think most natural laws are static, forever written in stone and unbreakable (gravity, bouyancy ect.) but constantly new "laws" are being written showing how to overcome these elements in the equation to produce a new effective law.
Maybe you can't fly becuase you WANT to unfold and witness the evolution of mankind flying capabilities.
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I don't think you guys understand the gravity of the situation. James, I like your grounded logic.
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you can fly...just make sure you are wearing a parachute!
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If I'm in a Subjective Reality of my own creation, and I can manifest things via the LOA; if history can be altered by things that happen in the present, and if I relate to reality like a waking dream, then why can't I fly?

I suppose it may take a lot of effort and practice, not to mention figuring out how to work "flying people" into my current world view. (For ex. who will be the first human to fly? What will be the global reaction? Will others learn to fly soon after? How long? Will it catch on or just be a fad? Will it cause a chain-reaction of other things previously believed impossible?) I would imagine if someone was advanced enough to fly s/he'd rather just teleport for most trips.

If I made the whole uninverse, why can't I just rewrite stuff? or CAN I??
You can't fly because you hold a much stronger belief for:

"I want to experience life as a human being in this universe which amongst other things contains planets and objects held together by a force called gravity."

Than you do for:

"I want to break the rules of the reality we live in and completely shatter any hopes of ever having a 'normal life' ever again."

What you're really asking is not "why can't I fly", but rather "why can't I consciously break one of the primal rules of this reality I have chosen to believe in as part of my human experience"?

The answer is that even though you may consciously, on a whim state "It would be cool to be able to fly", the reality is that the consequences of something like that actually happening would be catastrophic to your life and your deep subconscious belief of NOT wanting to "break reality" is much stronger than on a whim saying "I want to fly."

Luckily for practical purposes, you are smart enough to manifest the desire "Ability to fly from here to there" without breaking reality, by inventing a reality which contains machines such as helicopters and airplanes which allow you to fly without "breaking reality".
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"I want to break the rules of the reality we live in and completely shatter any hopes of ever having a 'normal life' ever again."
Wow I like this, I think I've found a new saying to put on my wall.
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You can't fly because you hold a much stronger belief for:

"I want to experience life as a human being in this universe which amongst other things contains planets and objects held together by a force called gravity."

Than you do for:

"I want to break the rules of the reality we live in and completely shatter any hopes of ever having a 'normal life' ever again."

What you're really asking is not "why can't I fly", but rather "why can't I consciously break one of the primal rules of this reality I have chosen to believe in as part of my human experience"?

The answer is that even though you may consciously, on a whim state "It would be cool to be able to fly", the reality is that the consequences of something like that actually happening would be catastrophic to your life and your deep subconscious belief of NOT wanting to "break reality" is much stronger than on a whim saying "I want to fly."

Luckily for practical purposes, you are smart enough to manifest the desire "Ability to fly from here to there" without breaking reality, by inventing a reality which contains machines such as helicopters and airplanes which allow you to fly without "breaking reality".
This is an awesome post.
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Wow I like this, I think I've found a new saying to put on my wall.
Yeah, but bending the rules of reality is so much more fun than just breaking it altogether!
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This is an awesome post.
Thanks. I devote an entire chapter to this very concept in my new eBook in "Chapter 2 - Hacking Reality".

Trying to "break" reality is one of the biggest reasons many fail to manifest with the Law of Attraction.

I advocate "bending" reality instead of breaking it. At least until you get really good at manifesting. Even Jesus didn't become Jesus overnight. Long before learning to break reality by coming back from the dead, as a toddler he first had to learn how to walk.

Trying to "break" reality as your first experiment with LoA is like walking into your first Karate class as a white belt and trying to fight a 10th degree black belt. You're gonna get you a$$ whooped.

Wax on, wax off...start with the basics.
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If I'm in a Subjective Reality of my own creation, and I can manifest things via the LOA; if history can be altered by things that happen in the present, and if I relate to reality like a waking dream, then why can't I fly?

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If I made the whole uninverse, why can't I just rewrite stuff? or CAN I??
You sure can: it's called getting into an airplane and flying.

Doesn't that count? Surely you've heard the parable about the man who was sitting on top of his house during a flood:

A boat came by and offered to rescue him, he said "Don't worry, god will save me".

Then a helicopter came and he said "No, it's ok, god will save me".

Well he drowned. When he got to heaven he asked God "Why didn't you save me?"

God said "You dolt! I sent a boat AND a helicopter".
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Alright, I don't give a **** what anybody says, nobody here is flying.

Jesus Christ, lol.

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I don't think you guys understand the gravity of the situation. James, I like your grounded logic.


Edit: alright I just tried it. I realized that I had the negative belief that I wasn't able to fly, did a few affirmations flapped my arms and OMG i'm 500 feet above sea level! brb my wifi is probably gonna cut out.

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It's been done already.

I don't mean by sitting in an aeroplane or a helicopter either.

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Mounds, Showtime and James81, you guys are killing me.

I used not flying because that's one that is commonly pointed out by people trying to argue against SR and LOA stuff. But it also seems like I should be able to make global changes if it's My World, taking place in My Consciousness. Otherwise it's a limit.

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The only person saying you cant fly is you. If you were saying you can fly, you would be flying. Please start taking responsibility for your current non-flying state.

Yes you did make the whole universe. But you also didnt. Do you unerstand?
I think other people are also saying I can't fly, since I'm a person and in this world people don't fly. Like is a division of liability thing. I don't understand your last statement.

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Trying to "break" reality is one of the biggest reasons many fail to manifest with the Law of Attraction.
I'm not trying to break anything, just understand why there are limits that can't be surpassed.

When I/someone manifest(s) a large amount of money or something out of thin air, or if someone is healed that breaks traditional reality, doesn't it? I thought that's why LOA is fun, you can do things traditionally thought impossible.

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I advocate "bending" reality instead of breaking it. At least until you get really good at manifesting. Even Jesus didn't become Jesus overnight. Long before learning to break reality by coming back from the dead, as a toddler he first had to learn how to walk.
What would be the "bending" reality equivalent of flying then? How can one get good at manifesting? Isn't it true that LOA exists or doesn't? if it does, if one can manifest an unexpected $800, why not $8 million? Isn't it the same inner workings or whatever?

No, my first experiment with LOA isn't to fly! I've (consciously) done other things although inconsistently. Unconsciously we're creating all the time aren't we? For basics I started vaporizing clouds, programming reserved parking spaces, blue feather, just like many other people. Now that I understand I'm responsible for the whole deal I would think I could be more consistent and..."powerful".
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It's been done already.

I don't mean by sitting in an aeroplane or a helicopter either.

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Yes, there have been reports of people flying or levitating in history. But today it would be all over YouTube! Instant celebritism. (Not necessarily wanted.) That's why I think someone who can fly would just as soon teleport. They could appear in a closet or empty room near their destination and the chances of someone catching them on their phone would be slim.
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Before I was old enough to know "better",
I was sure I did fly.
I'd just put my foot out and glide down the stairs.

I still think my mom will some day tell me it's true.

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Yes, there have been reports of people flying or levitating in history. But today it would be all over YouTube! Instant celebritism. (Not necessarily wanted.) That's why I think someone who can fly would just as soon teleport. They could appear in a closet or empty room near their destination and the chances of someone catching them on their phone would be slim.
Also, one who sincerely believes people cannot fly will repel perception of any evidence to the contrary (repelled to the same degree that they believe it is an impossibility). Things that don't agree with one's current gestalt/relationship with reality are filtered out. They aren't a vibrational match. If they aren't absolutely certain it is an impossibility, they may be open to evidence that might suggest otherwise, but proving that it is real to yourself is probably quite a few additional notches up the faith rope.
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Wax on, wax off...start with the basics.
Minor syncro - just 24 hours, for the first time in years, I caught that scene as part of a cable movie promo!

I like to think that, if I'm living in some sort of predesigned simulation, things on the order of physical law are going to be more firmly 'encoded', harder to bend, so as to provide a stable framework for the (early stages of the - ?) "game".

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The fact is that in order to use the LOA to its fullest you need to be working WITH the laws of the universe in which you live instead of trying to bend and break them. Otherwise the LAW of Attraction is not a law.

These attempts at "bending and breaking" (without due consideration) are what have caused and continue to cause a lot of problems for a lot of other souls sharing the same universe, not just oneself.

I suggest that, until you learn to mould reality at will to your desires, you try to live in harmony with the laws that govern it for everyone else. You might be surprised at how much more easily things begin to flow ...

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So they did it simply by a concrete belief that they could?
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Well, not sure if anybody will believe it, but I actually remember breathing underwater when I was younger, before I knew how "reality" worked. Actually tons of weird stuff happened to me when I was younger. I just erased it all from my head as I grew up.
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"That's been done too. "

HAhahah!

I love it

I like this type of discussion!!
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Why is evidence for this, centuries old? Not saying it can't happen by any means, but I'm really curious as to why these accounts are of a distant past. Haven't heard of anyone flying by levitation in the past 25 years, (except for Cris Angel and David Blaine - yet they have exposed their tricks in public)

Examples like what Joao de Deus does, on the other hand, shatter paradigms.

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If a human being levitates and just floats around, in this day and age, it would get posted everywhere. Scientists would intervene and assess the situation. The proof and examples used to prove it's possible just reek of legends and fairy tales, being relegated to the occult.

Again not saying it can't happen, but I don't buy into the whole argument of "believe it" and it will happen. If anything, it wouldn't have to do with beliefs. Many people have committed suicide while being convinced they could fly.

Is it possible? Yes, but you wouldn't have anything to do with it.
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I think other people are also saying I can't fly, since I'm a person and in this world people don't fly. Like is a division of liability thing. I don't understand your last statement.
Im not saying you cant fly. Has anybody ever personally told YOU that YOU cant fly. Or do you tell yourself you cant fly because you havent seen anyone else do it?

You created the universe. But not the conscious you. IT would be too much for the conscious part of your mind to handle, the constant creation of all reality.
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You can't fly because you hold a much stronger belief for:

"I want to experience life as a human being in this universe which amongst other things contains planets and objects held together by a force called gravity."

Than you do for:

"I want to break the rules of the reality we live in and completely shatter any hopes of ever having a 'normal life' ever again."

What you're really asking is not "why can't I fly", but rather "why can't I consciously break one of the primal rules of this reality I have chosen to believe in as part of my human experience"?

The answer is that even though you may consciously, on a whim state "It would be cool to be able to fly", the reality is that the consequences of something like that actually happening would be catastrophic to your life and your deep subconscious belief of NOT wanting to "break reality" is much stronger than on a whim saying "I want to fly."

Luckily for practical purposes, you are smart enough to manifest the desire "Ability to fly from here to there" without breaking reality, by inventing a reality which contains machines such as helicopters and airplanes which allow you to fly without "breaking reality".
Impaul99...I love the way you think! Your book sounds awesome!!

I see this exactly the same way. Once we've perceived and accepted the reality before us as being malleable, we can start to 'play' within the dream. However, simply embracing the realization that reality is a reflection or creation of our own greater consciousness does not necessarily completely dissolve the apparent parameters or properties of the environment we've created.

While I really do believe that our creative abilities extend far and beyond any hard and fast laws that may appear to exist, we DID choose to enter into this experience for the purpose of having a focused and therefore somewhat limited experience....I see that these limits however, are in place simply for the joy inherent in overcoming them.

Bending vs. breaking....perfect! And from my vantage point, the line between the two merely depends upon where each of us is in terms of our own beliefs and personal perception of reality...what currently looks like 'breaking reality' to me, to someone else may be a mere 'bend' of his own personal version of reality.

In my experience, it happens in stages or steps....we become accustomed to making small little 'bends,'....then they get bigger and bigger and then these 'bends' begin to evolve into experiences where the old version of ourselves would have perceived reality as 'breaking'...except at that point, it merely appears as another bend, because our belief system and experience of reality has evolved to include such a thing as 'normal.'

good God.....my brain is swimming...hope that made sense!
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Old 11-10-2010, 04:55 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Why is evidence for this, centuries old? Not saying it can't happen by any means, but I'm really curious as to why these accounts are of a distant past. Haven't heard of anyone flying by levitation in the past 25 years, (except for Cris Angel and David Blaine - yet they have exposed their tricks in public)

Examples like what Joao de Deus does, on the other hand, shatter paradigms.

Joćo de Deus (medium) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If a human being levitates and just floats around, in this day and age, it would get posted everywhere. Scientists would intervene and assess the situation. The proof and examples used to prove it's possible just reek of legends and fairy tales, being relegated to the occult.

Again not saying it can't happen, but I don't buy into the whole argument of "believe it" and it will happen. If anything, it wouldn't have to do with beliefs. Many people have committed suicide while being convinced they could fly.

Is it possible? Yes, but you wouldn't have anything to do with it.
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It's not called secret knowledge because it is hidden, but because so few understand it.
There are people that do display these but they may choose to live a media free life (some recent ones I have read about, these people tend to live in very remote locations), so why should be plastered all over? Also, how many things maybe posted and people just think of it as special effects or photoshop?

Most of the things are listed as siddhis. You can go threw the route to achieve siddhis but they say they come about naturally from enlightenment. Now would you be willing to be in a case with "Scientists (who) would intervene and assess the situation.", if it has nothing to do with your path of enlightenment? There are those enlightened out there that do subject themselves to scientific experiments, but can those scientists truly understand the how? Most they do is document and test the truth of the situation and come up with some feasible logic to explain it in the realm of their reality. Like the guy in India who doesn't need to eat or drink because his nasal passages act as a dehumidifier and provide him with water from the air he breathes, but when he is asked he's tell you about the god who came to him and blessed him with this "gift". The scientist can only tell us how this man's body is able to do it NOW.
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Being born a human still comes with limitations. You're made from protoplasm and bones which means you can't fly. It is a limitation of this physical, human dimension.

The same way that a fish cannot survive out of water.

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