How you supposed to maintain the faith?

[nicbrahms]

I have impeccable faith and knowing that what I want is mine, however, when the thing appears to be there ready for me, it fails to come to me, it seems the next logical step and fails to be.

I wanna know how are you supposed to keep the faith if you are constantly being tested like this?

I am sick and tired of not having clarity, I am sick and tired of misinterpreting the energy, I just don't know whether I am coming or going some days.

Why is existence here so ****ing ****ed up?

Why does my higher self keep quiet when I want help? (She's a real *****).

Tee hee

[nicbrahms]

I mean is it just my frikkin journey here that is frought ( I dunno if thats a word, but it works) with this crap or everyones.

I honestly feel like I must have been mental to wanna come here and endure this crap.

When I get back I am gonna kick my proverbial multi dimensional arse from here to kingdom come.

Its bordering on torture sometimes, perhaps I am just venting, more than likely, I ain't got my period and I feel great otherwise, you know the inner being feeling of wonderment and happiness, thats still prevalent, sometimes my mind gets in the way though.

So really I need to kick ego's arse, note to self, get lobotomy and have ego removed permanently.

peace

So how do you know what you want is coming for sure, what is the guidelines, the feelings, the sense?

[nicbrahms]

And I have been listening to George Michael's 'Faith' song but it doesn't seem to be working.

Or does it?

How do you know your faith is strong enough and how do you know you feel good when you feel good all the time and have an off moment like now.

[nicbrahms]

I gotta wonder, am I talking gibberish and is that actually a langauge, cause if it ain't it should be cause all my nieces and nephews speak gibberish fluently.

Hmmmm so many contemplations.

[Bradshaw]

My spirit guides/higher self keep quiet some of the time too; But I know it's for my best interest.

You really wouldn't want them to give you all the answers and solutions. That would be like having cheat codes given to you, and that's just no fun.

Also, when I manifest, I don't ask all these questions.

Honestly, if you go to a public forum and you complain that your intention isn't manifesting... well, you're right, lol. That's your belief.

I know my intention is coming anyway. It's just inevitable. But I also don't really care whether it comes or not.

This struggle energy that I see in your post is basically not really that good for attracting stuff to your life. I imagine you'll just attract stuff that comes through struggle.

Lack of attachment is like the most important thing with the law of attraction. Notice how there's billions of accounts of people manifesting stuff they don't really care about, and then failing to do so on the really big things.

It is, of course, illusion. The big things aren't really big. They're not even small. They are whatever you think they are.

You my dear are giving too much importance to this, and that's all there is to it.

LoA works for me personally when I do it in a relaxed way.

The few times I tried manifesting in a stressy way, it has never, EVER manifested... wait, that's not true.

It manifested after I stopped being stressed/thinking about the intention.

Go figure, lol.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by Bradshaw

My spirit guides/higher self keep quiet some of the time too; But I know it's for my best interest.

You really wouldn't want them to give you all the answers and solutions. That would be like having cheat codes given to you, and that's just no fun.

Also, when I manifest, I don't ask all these questions.

Honestly, if you go to a public forum and you complain that your intention isn't manifesting... well, you're right, lol. That's your belief.

I know my intention is coming anyway. It's just inevitable. But I also don't really care whether it comes or not.

This struggle energy that I see in your post is basically not really that good for attracting stuff to your life. I imagine you'll just attract stuff that comes through struggle.

Lack of attachment is like the most important thing with the law of attraction. Notice how there's billions of accounts of people manifesting stuff they don't really care about, and then failing to do so on the really big things.

It is, of course, illusion. The big things aren't really big. They're not even small. They are whatever you think they are.

You my dear are giving too much importance to this, and that's all there is to it.

LoA works for me personally when I do it in a relaxed way.

The few times I tried manifesting in a stressy way, it has never, EVER manifested... wait, that's not true.

It manifested after I stopped being stressed/thinking about the intention.

Go figure, lol.

Thank you for your advice, although you are preaching to the choir.

However, I do think if I am feeling consternation then it must be because I am supposed to feel consternation.

Yesterday I was in such a good place and usually am that waves of bliss were permeating my body.

I find that my vibe has to lower to make it go higher, so now I don't fight it, I allow it.

I know what I want is mine, my higher self told me twice.

So I guess what this thread is about is me venting a little and wondering what everyone else does when they are feeling low or challenged.

Also, it may just be cause I haven't started a thread in ages.

Or perhaps I just wanna be a pain in the arse with my contradictions.

But you are right this energy is not conducive to getting where or who I want to be, although I still feel the peace inside, my mind sometimes wonders as it has done today.

So what the hey, thanks for the pep talk though, sometimes thats just what a girl needs.

Peace and love.

[Showtime]

lol @ quadrpuple posting

But yea, I think you know a decnt amount about this stuff from what I've read from you, but you technically don't need to have faith. Faith is an emotional state. Happiness, Love, Gratitude, are all vibrationally way higher than Faith. Remember: LoA is responding to vibration, not your specific thoughts. The specific thoughts and Faith are just helpful in setting up the vibration.

The subject of your manifestation is obviously of importance to you and while that's good (more exciting when it comes) it's also bad (moe frustrating while you're waiting.) So by saying "this is the only subject that I'll feel anything about," I think you're unneccesserally beating yourself over the head.

You just want to feel good as much ass possible during the day. The universe isn't sitting out there like "huh?? I don't know what she wants! She stopped thinking about it" It's responding to your vibration. So if thinking about your manifestation makes you feel good, do it. If thinking about puppies makes you feel good, do it. If thinking about last night's South Park makes you feel good, do it. And that **** will show up so fast that it will tear your socks off. Manifestations are more fun when they're kind of a suprise anyway (in my opinion.)

[spacecadetglow]

Ride the waves, darlin'. They come and go. Right now mine are really close together, but I seem to be evening out a bit, too. My baseline feeling is getting better than it's ever been.

What do I do on challenging days? I sit. I let the confusion and restlessness and bad feelings wash over me. I don't try to analyze them or turn them into something positive. Surrender. You'll feel better afterwards.

Cheers.

[Federer]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I have impeccable faith and knowing that what I want is mine, however, when the thing appears to be there ready for me, it fails to come to me, it seems the next logical step and fails to be.

I wanna know how are you supposed to keep the faith if you are constantly being tested like this?

I am sick and tired of not having clarity, I am sick and tired of misinterpreting the energy, I just don't know whether I am coming or going some days.

Why is existence here so ****ing ****ed up?

Why does my higher self keep quiet when I want help? (She's a real *****).

Tee hee

It's pretty annoying. When such thing happens we think and we try to analyze. Again we fail, but you know if you want to hear your inner heart, you have to try without letting down your emotions. May be you need some rest.

What's bothering you???

[Viclogic]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I have impeccable faith and knowing that what I want is mine, however, when the thing appears to be there ready for me, it fails to come to me, it seems the next logical step and fails to be.

I wanna know how are you supposed to keep the faith if you are constantly being tested like this?

I am sick and tired of not having clarity, I am sick and tired of misinterpreting the energy, I just don't know whether I am coming or going some days.

Why is existence here so ****ing ****ed up?

Why does my higher self keep quiet when I want help? (She's a real *****).

Tee hee

Faith should be distinguished from true faith against false faith, from living faith against dead faith, and from faith based on love against faith based on enforcement.

[cortocabezas1111]

why do you think your intention hasn't manifested yet?

[Showtime]

Oh yea, and if your Higher Self seems to be ignoring you, it's not like she's neglecting you or anything, it just means that she can't reach you vibrationally at the time being. I'm sure she's trying to reach you as much as you're trying to reach her.

You might wanna pick up Orin's "Opening to Channel" Meditation. No matter where I am vibrationally I can reconnect using that CD. I can typically connect anyway, but it's really awesome for emergencies.

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As far as your manifestation, you can chill out a little bit and do some visualizations on what you want, and just give your undivided attention to the visualization. It can be whatever you're trying to maintain faith about. It might be hard to do at first, but as you go on you'll start getting back into your vibration. A little "wouldn't it be nice if" may be helpful at first.

This dilemma was solved by another important discovery
which, for all practical purposes, allows us to synthesize
"experience," to literally create experience, and
control it, in the laboratory of our minds. Experimental
and clinical psychologists have proved beyond a shadow
of a doubt that the human nervous system cannot tell the
difference between an "actual" experience and an experience
imagined vividly and in detail. Although this may
appear to be a rather extravagant statement, in this book
we will examine some controlled laboratory experiments
where this type of "synthetic" experience has been used
in very practical ways

- Psycho-Cybernetics by Dr. Maxwell Maltz

[Alan1986]

They say the key to manifestation is to have no expectations.

We don't have to look for good things in the future. There are plenty of good things here in the present!

[Now123]

Faith is looking forward to an expectancy in the near future. To have faith, is to be in a moment before you ever recieve what you asked for.

If you keep with faith, you will be looking at things through a moment where you don't have it yet, so you are at a vibration where you will always not have it yet.

Off course you may come near close to recieving your manifestation that your faith may grow stronger, but what you asked for may never come.

I don't think faith is that useful, gratitude is key here.

Edit: Have you considered faith being the real problem? perhaps its the reason why you are not getting any results. Maybe its not good to have faith.

[ellie]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

Thank you for your advice, although you are preaching to the choir.

However, I do think if I am feeling consternation then it must be because I am supposed to feel consternation.

Yesterday I was in such a good place and usually am that waves of bliss were permeating my body.

I find that my vibe has to lower to make it go higher, so now I don't fight it, I allow it.

I know what I want is mine, my higher self told me twice.

So I guess what this thread is about is me venting a little and wondering what everyone else does when they are feeling low or challenged.

Also, it may just be cause I haven't started a thread in ages.

Or perhaps I just wanna be a pain in the arse with my contradictions.

But you are right this energy is not conducive to getting where or who I want to be, although I still feel the peace inside, my mind sometimes wonders as it has done today.

So what the hey, thanks for the pep talk though, sometimes thats just what a girl needs.

Peace and love.

Usually when I am really down, I turn a corner and things start to look up. Don't ask my why though?

I really empathise with your journey. We new-age sensitive ones are a hard bunch to understand

Nic do you still drink that elixir? The one that helped you feel so light and happy?

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

I am replying to the original post you wrote. The moment I read it, I asked myself what would I do in such a situation and the answer was simple: detach.

That's really everything there is to it.

Perhaps you are attaching yourself to it. Let the Universe "play that game". You want to continue to remain detached in a non-offensive way.

[mikej]

Originally Posted by Now123

Faith is looking forward to an expectancy in the near future. To have faith, is to be in a moment before you ever recieve what you asked for.

If you keep with faith, you will be looking at things through a moment where you don't have it yet, so you are at a vibration where you will always not have it yet.

Off course you may come near close to recieving your manifestation that your faith may grow stronger, but what you asked for may never come.

I don't think faith is that useful, gratitude is key here.

Edit: Have you considered faith being the real problem? perhaps its the reason why you are not getting any results. Maybe its not good to have faith.

but if you lose faith in what you are trying to manifest will you still get it?

[Diandra25]

im surprised now...i thought FAITH was the most important thing in I-M and Loa....the most powerful thing it exists...in the books i read they talk about it as being as powerful as Love and Gratitude.

so,isnt FAITH needed?

oi Bradshaw

[Showtime]

Faith is just a positive feeling, and there are other positive feelings. That's why when Jack Canfield was talking about his experience he only thought about his intention for a few minutes a day then went into the feeling of gratitude. It's the emotions that makes this stuff work.

Like if you knew nothing about IM, never read any books on it, never even heard about it, and felt positive most of the time all your dreams would start coming true without you even having to try.

[Diandra25]

i see it.

thank you Showtime.

never read Canfield really.

[Showtime]

np ;D

[nicbrahms]

My higher self spoke to me on three distinct occasions, where i heard a seperate voice, and today it showed me an event from my past which relates to something that I am going through now.

Funnily enough this thing ends on 11th november, yep 11/11. Weird or what!

It only occurred to me yesterday when I saw 11:11 on the clock twice.

So it appears in two weeks when this thing is over this other thing is gonna come about.

I was shown that today when I felt an urge to meditate in the middle of the day.

I beleive that what you get in your experience is intended all along. So somehow someway if you have conceived the idea then the thing is yours, thats the way the cookie crumbles, also the length of time it takes for you to get into alignment is the factor.

So I am restored somewhat and the thing is I was wrong the faith never shifted, I realised today when I knew I wouldn't be here without believing in and knowing God is with me. Its my driving force.

Peace children and thank you for all your help and advice.

[cortocabezas1111]

Can you say that you truly have anything besides this moment right now? There's this moment of experience right now, and the awareness of this moment of experience right now. If we are to believe in intention manifestation or LOA or whatever, that our thoughts create our reality, what does that say about how we should face this moment right now? If we struggle and resist this moment right now, what would that manifest as, what would we create with that?
If we don't accept ourselves fully, right now, when will we? What does THAT "manifest" as? If your attention is some place other than HERE AND NOW, WHERE are you manifesting? WHERE ARE YOU LIVING? Do you want to reside solely in your imagination, pretending that some date in the future will contain some massive event that will turn you into the person you want to be, that will make you enjoy life the way you want to enjoy it? What does that "manifest" as?
Create and imagine in the MOMENT right now. Experience your life. Because if all of this stuff, that everyone reads about and talks about, this spiritual stuff this religious stuff whatever, if it's all BS, then you just missed out on your life, too busy paying attention else where, instead of the amazement happening before your eyes. What if there's no afterlife? What if there's nothing, and you are just wiped out, like erasing a computer file, when you die? What if the only truth you can know is that you will just get older and older until you die? We get so used to looking ahead in life, feeling young, that we forget one day we'll have to look back. What if this is it, your only shot at this......do you want to waste it?
I say let yourself be here and now. Enjoy this moment, take it in. Let go of the false ideas that tell you you have to be this way or that, or do this or that, or whatever...it's not real. And let's say "MANIFESTING" IS real...what would you manifest now, if now you were happy? If you let go of all your tension and you were okay with who you are and what you are doing NOW, without a goal in mind? If you struggle NOW, you create struggling for yourself. What would you manifest if you dropped all of those illusionary boundaries and guidelines in your head telling you what you have to be, do, say, think, or feel, what would you manifest then?
So I think, regardless if any of this "stuff" is real, enjoying the experience of your life that is happening right now is essential, because you don't want to waste it, you don't want to look back on all of this with regrets and you truly don't know what's going to happen when you die so this might be it. This moment right now is truly all you have, and I believe you can perceive it any way you want, you can choose to be open and experience it, or you can resist and create tension, and ignore your life happening this moment right now in favor of living in your imagination. And nobody ever said "You manifest in your idea of the future!" Everybody always talks about creating RIGHT NOW and that's where the creation takes place. So if that's true, than how you are RIGHT NOW, the tension you CHOOSE to carry right now, the beliefs about yourself and your world RIGHT NOW, how you PERCEIVE RIGHT NOW to be, would be what you create for yourself to experience.
If right now, you are struggling and believing something is going to happen to you in the future that is going to make you be the person you want to be and experience life the way you want to, then what are you creating right now?

[Tom Booth]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

I have impeccable faith and knowing that what I want is mine, however, when the thing appears to be there ready for me, it fails to come to me, it seems the next logical step and fails to be.

I wanna know how are you supposed to keep the faith if you are constantly being tested like this?

After reading a bunch of books, I worked out a kind of "formula" that involved some basic steps like:

Believe that the desired object/outcome is ALREADY yours/manifest
Accept it. That is, feel comfortable with this new REALITY - or integrate it.
Visualize it. Get the clear mental image of it.
Feel it. Feel the way you should feel when assuming the manifestation to be ALREADY a reality.
Will it. Not sure how to elaborate on that. Basically put energy into it from your gut.
Do something physical. Take some physical action.

This last may take some imagination or ingenuity but I think it is an important step. Let's say for example that you want a car. You haven't had a car before so you have been using your garage for storage.

You might clean out the garage to make room for the car. Do something that you would REALLY DO if you REALLY HAD the thing being visualized.

I think this is all pretty common stuff most people here have probably read or learned one place or another, but the final step for me, I found, is...

Once you have done the above and really really FEEL and KNOW that the MANIFESTATION whatever it is is ALREADY yours or already a reality - you feel "IN THE GROVE" so to speak or "IN THE ZONE" -

Forget it.

It is done and over with. Move on to other things.

I've found, in practice, that I've always gotten the most immediate response to a "visualization" when I was in the middle of "VISUALIZING" as described above and felt really IN THE ZONE so to speak and then got interrupted by something - such as someone coming into the room and talking to me - bringing me suddenly out of my reverie.

I guess this is easier to do - i.e. forget about it if it is something of little importance. Something you are not anxious about. If your life depends on something manifesting right away - I suppose it would be more difficult to avoid looking around in anticipation. Always thinking "Where is it, when is it coming, what did I do wrong" etc.

So... get in THE ZONE... Feel it, believe it, Know it, Accept it, Imagine it, ACT on it... Then move on to something else, knowing that it has been taken care of and don't give it another thought. Don't dwell on it.

If there is a sense of anticipation or anxiety about it then it has not been fully integrated mentally, emotionally and in action. Never really got into the "ZONE" or never really accepted it I would suspect.

I can confess though, to having had the same problem with really important stuff. It is nearly impossible sometimes to put away feeling anxious about it.

Regardless, knowing what works, or what to shoot for...

Whenever I HAVE been able to carry out the above procedure/advice the results have come very quickly, sometimes immediately. Whenever I was not able to really "Let Go" and continued dwelling on the thing, being anxious about it - results did not come or were delayed until I was really able to "Get into the zone" and fully integrate/accept as an ALREADY existing reality and have that so-to-speak SINK IN, and then forget about it, did it finally manifest.

By "forget about" I don't mean in a negative sense, such as to push away or out of mind, but rather to so fully accept that there is no longer any need to worry about. Like money in the pocket. You don't worry or think about or look for what you already know that you have. You simply have it and busy yourself with something else.

If you can get the mindset that you have "Already Received" then you should just be Happy, not anxious. Just walking on air, not looking for signs or messages or confirmation for something that is already a "Done Deal".

[positive power]

So, what we are saying in a nutshell then , is do not try to manifest anything big when you are stressed. Well, thats hard given the complexity of the life we have to lead.

[SethWilliams]

Nic! Cant you see, your making it worse.

Circumstances dont matter, only state of being matters.

Why is life so crap, I dont know Nic? But something tells me you "know" why your life is the way it is.

Love Seth

[nicbrahms]

You know what I understand after all my book learnings.

That your experience is exactly tailored to be what it is, so all the ups and downs I have, all I learn, all I am, all the frustration, excitement, depression, upset etc is all part of it.

There is nothing in my experience that is wrongly placed, so there is nothing but living in the moment and accepting the moment and if I want to rage against it I can, if I want to be exasperated about the lack of manifestation I can be because if it wasn't supposed to be that way it wouldn't happen.

Everything happens for a reason, there is nothing that shouldn't be or can be better or different, it just is.

I get this and now I allow myself to feel everything and live the experience in its entirety, I don't wanna pretend its all great when it isn't, I want to be authentic to the experience, for the experience is there to elicit the reactions in me emotionwise, its the only way I can grow.

Also I have learned at the crux of it all there is love, love is he be all and end all of it all, love is the driving force, love is all you need.

I feel it, I get it and I relish it, you know the sort of love that makes you love everyone and want to pull them to your bosom, the love that makes you choke up cause it pulls at your heart all the time, the love for a stranger cause you see yourself/God in them.

Thats my conclusion, love and indeed I love, so much, that in the end I realise all there is and all that matters is the love I feel for God and the love I receive from God/Source. The sort of love that makes you understand that nothing in the illusion is of importance compared to that love. That if it was a toss up between feeling that love and having all the wealth in the world, then I would take the love anyday.

That is where I am at, broke, not working, but at peace and feeling God's love non stop, feeling the care, guidance and the ease with which life flows. This is where I want to be, and where I will forever endeavour to stay.

If the universe yields to me all that I desire then so be it, meanwhile I know its all taken care of.

I'm ok, I'm fearless, I am at peace.

Love as always light beings.

[Ingenius]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

You know what I understand after all my book learnings.

All that... you know from the books or you have had the experience of it? It is not enough to believe it if you don't live it.

At this point of my own learning process, I'm pretty sure that nothing that I read will help unless I experience it from the inside, otherwise it is just another cult, blind faith.

I'm guessing you're in that exact situation, so my advice is stop reading and do the work for yourself: explore, ask and learn from living your life. Someone pointed out in these forums that adopting a stance of "not knowing" is a good starting point, and it sounds like good advice. Maybe it is not about knowing more, but knowing less that will help.

You only need yourself, there is no "higher self" as an entity out there, don't try to apply the theory straight away, question it and check if it is "true", then you will have proof and there won't be much faith needed.

I hope this helps in some way,

Daniel.

[Tom Booth]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

You know what I understand after all my book learnings.

That your experience is exactly tailored to be what it is, so all the ups and downs I have, all I learn, all I am, all the frustration, excitement, depression, upset etc is all part of it.

There is nothing in my experience that is wrongly placed, so there is nothing but living in the moment and accepting the moment and if I want to rage against it I can, if I want to be exasperated about the lack of manifestation I can be because if it wasn't supposed to be that way it wouldn't happen.

Everything happens for a reason, there is nothing that shouldn't be or can be better or different, it just is.

I get this and now I allow myself to feel everything and live the experience in its entirety, I don't wanna pretend its all great when it isn't, I want to be authentic to the experience, for the experience is there to elicit the reactions in me emotionwise, its the only way I can grow.

Also I have learned at the crux of it all there is love, love is he be all and end all of it all, love is the driving force, love is all you need.

I feel it, I get it and I relish it, you know the sort of love that makes you love everyone and want to pull them to your bosom, the love that makes you choke up cause it pulls at your heart all the time, the love for a stranger cause you see yourself/God in them.

Thats my conclusion, love and indeed I love, so much, that in the end I realise all there is and all that matters is the love I feel for God and the love I receive from God/Source. The sort of love that makes you understand that nothing in the illusion is of importance compared to that love. That if it was a toss up between feeling that love and having all the wealth in the world, then I would take the love anyday.

That is where I am at, broke, not working, but at peace and feeling God's love non stop, feeling the care, guidance and the ease with which life flows. This is where I want to be, and where I will forever endeavour to stay.

If the universe yields to me all that I desire then so be it, meanwhile I know its all taken care of.

I'm ok, I'm fearless, I am at peace.

Love as always light beings.

I'm going to wax philosophical for a moment.

It is hard for me to say whether I believe in God or not. I suppose that might be called agnostic, though I'm not set on being "agnostic".

When first determining to begin "experimenting" with "Manifesting" or "Creative Visualization" I suppose at the root of it all, my basic motivation was to come to grips with the issue - is there a God?

Setting aside "technique" and "method" as far as what works or what doesn't in LOA... I've sometimes felt as though I were playing cat and mouse with "God".

That is,...

When it "works", it really seems to me sometimes that it works due to some reason other than technique or method, and so also when it doesn't work. Like I am merely a child who has, shall we say, learned to climb out of the crib. Sometimes I'm allowed to run around and create havoc, sometimes I reach for something and someone gives me help, sometimes I'm put back into the crib... but I'm hardly aware of the "parents" watching over me all the while.

In other words.

"God" or no "God" in whatever way anyone understands that term... It seems logical that if LOA does work, then the world is very different from "physical" i.e. mind or thought is influencing "matter" or "Reality" is dreamlike...

Well, if thought or mind creates reality then there seems to be at least the possibility that there are much more advanced BEINGS capable of much higher functioning on a "spiritual" level than I. And, more than likely, such beings are interested and involved in either assisting or hampering my efforts, or letting me alone... as a parent might let a child alone to take its first steps but ready to catch him if he should fall... which is inevitable.

What are these "higher" more "advanced" beings ? Guardian Angels ? God ? Masters ? Spirit Guides ?...

Can't say that I know for sure.

One thing seems certain to me however, and that is that if I am advancing, there must surely have been others who are now much further along.

It seems probable that they are more "in control" of the process at times than I am. Sometimes assisting my faltering efforts, sometimes letting me learn through failure, or allowing me to succeed through my own efforts - similar to how any parent would assist a child to take its first steps - with the eventual goal of having that child gain the strength to walk on its own.

So... how does that relate to your post ?

I think there is a purpose to all this, but I do not think that the purpose is to know that our "parents" or "God" is watching over us and taking care of us and that we are virtually powerless to do anything anyway so lets just be content lying in our cribs knowing we are loved and that "God" or whatever is taking care of us and will bring us a bottle.

If we are, as it is said "Children of God", then sooner or later, we have to grow up. At least TRY to "walk" on our own... and keep trying,... no mater how many times we falter or fail and fall down.

Growing up is not particularly easy. There are failures, bumps, bruises, skinned knees and spilled milk, but having been born, we can't go back to the comfort of the womb either.

[Parchipexx]

This has been said before on this thread, but I too have experienced things where if I really really want something to happen, and feel a sense of struggle with it, it won't come true or it happens to someone close to me and is just out of reach in my reality. I can be a bit of a control freak sometimes, and I tend to obsess. I find that when I let go and relax, and just go about my merry way and don't worry about it, it's much more likely to manifest and brings "bonus manifestations" with it as well!

I think as humans we've been conditioned into thinking that life is tough, achievements are a struggle, and that anything worthwhile takes hard work. But in my personal opinion, the opposite is true, or at least it has been for me. Manifesting might take what some would consider "work", but in my case when I'm really in sync with what I'm intending, when I'm just going with the flow and feeling good, it didn't feel like much work at all, mostly just inspired action.

Maybe this is what they mean by Let Go and Let God? Hmmmm..

Very interesting thread!