|10-26-2010, 09:51 PM||#1 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2009
What mantras have you used for IM?
I've seen a couple posts about mantras lately and I was wondering how many people here use them to assist in bringing about a manifestation.
Repeating the mantra feels like repeating affirmation, though some say it's more than that. But to me, bottom line, mantras state the intention you would like to manifest. So I question, what have been your experiences with mantras?
Do you also conduct the ceremony related with them or choose to focus on only the mantra?
Can any people also can comment on doing only the mantra compared to combining both mantra and mundra?
Which mantras did you use. What were they for and what was the effect at the end?
If one were unfamiliar with mantras, would listening to a correct pronounciation carry the more impact than possibly mispronouncing the mantra? Many stress the pronounication of the words and I wonder if one can still achieve the same effects threw pure intent.
|10-27-2010, 10:23 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jul 2010
Sooo many questions, missbhaven, none of which I'd answer in this post anyway.
I'd rather propose a general theory in brief, which would take us again, fortunately or unfortunately, to the realm of LOA.
Virtually in all relevant literature, we're supposed to think, visualize, emotionalize, believe... whatever. Then our desire, we've been told, will start manifesting. Just like that. What we desire will somehow just come our way.
Theoretically, this is true, I hazard to state. However, only a few, very few in my opinion, can do that. The reason is, manifesting or creating just like that--directly from our thoughts and merely by the power of mind--indeed requires long practice and takes a real master with so much skill and knowledge to do. This method, therefore, doesn't work for most people, who can't even focus their thoughts for a minute. Most of us today, just like most of those who were exposed to this secret knowledge throughout history, need a different approach. To create or manifest what we desire, we need some assistance, some tool, or precisely some sort of *mediation* between our *mind* and our *reality*. We need what some ancient resources call the *base* of desire, which necessarily belong to the physical world.
In other words, there must be a *link* or a *bridge* between the mental world (our thoughts and visualizations), the emotional world (our emotions, supposedly matching) and the physical world (which is the *base* chosen, itself the *symbol*, the *nest*, or the *envelope* of our desire). Without this base, this link or bridge between *the worlds*, manifestation will be very difficult for a beginner, and it may just take forever.
So our thoughts need a *vehicle* to ride, in other words. This vehicle is the physical base that our thoughts *link* and *attach* to. Otherwise, they're weak, faint, scattered, and they're likely to die out in a very short time.
To fully grasp this point, also the reason I usually call it creating not attracting, suppose that your thoughts are the design or the *image* of what you desire, your emotions then are the *soul*, and the physical base chosen is the *body*. So we're literally creating, not attracting. In fact, there is no such thing as attracting. It's not just a mistake to call it the law of *attraction*; it's a *sin*, so confusing and so misleading sometimes I do doubt made on purpose.
This is the general theory in brief, and this is now--as some may have already figured out--the science, the knowledge, or the art we usually call *magic*.
(The Law of Attraction, just in case you or any of our friends here are not yet aware, is a major law in magic, articulated for the first time during The Renaissance by a master called Agrippa, one of the greatest magicians of all time. Agrippa, also a physician and a philosopher, never called it the Law of Attraction, needless to say, but the Law of Resonance. Also needless to say it doesn't read "Like attracts like." The original law is rather full of secrets. In Agrippa's literal words it reads: "All things which are similar and therefore connected, are drawn to each other's power." )
Now let's take some example and see how that *base*, and magic in general, may be *already* working in our life.
I particularly like this example: Suppose you have some goals to achieve during, say, 2011, or the next five years. Of course, you may just keep these goals in mind, and keep observing and working on them.
However, if you wrote these goals down, just wrote them down, the very *shape* of the words, the very *ink*, along with the *paper* where you wrote them, would together work as the physical base for your goals thought--the same *base* we're talking about. This is precisely why, now we know, people who write their goals are more likely to achieve them. We always thought it was a matter of organizing or focusing our thoughts, and we usually didn't pay much attention--oblivious, ironically, to what *focusing our thoughts* really means. Now we rather know that merely writing our goals or *intentions* on a piece of paper and keep reading them every now and then is an act of magic in itself. True, literal and pure magic. Those who write, therefore, are magicians; those who don't, just... humans.
Now with this understanding we may finally come to mantras.
(It's been a long journey; I know. )
Mantras, above all, are *sounds*. The sound of the mantra, the air vibrations still on the physical plane, can also act as a physical *base* for our thoughts. What we've found so far is that sound may even be more powerful as a *base*, more than any material in solid state. Similarly the human voice, perhaps more than any sound, can perfectly act as a base or vehicle for thought.
(In a quick note here we may refer to the fact that almost all major religions tell us that creation starts with a sound, a saying, or a word: For instance in Gensis we read: "And God said, Let there be light... And God called the light Day... And God said, Let there be a firmament... etc." In john: In the beginning was the Word. In Quran, in a short verse on how God/Allah creates in general we read: "When He decrees a thing He but says to it 'Be,' and it is." In Hinduism, "Mother Nature [Amba] remains in an inactive state in the Golden Egg until the cosmic sound vibration of Aum [a big bang] activates the Golden Egg, giving rise to... [very long and complicated chain comes here and finally ends with]... the cosmic mind [Mahat].")
This power of sound, as you've already noticed, is the same power behind affirmations. Affirmations, especially repeated affirmations, regardless of their wording or meaning, do act as a physical *base* and thus help materialize thought and accelerate manifestation.
Obviously, the topic is very long and there is still much to discuss especially when it comes to our subconscious response to this usually-meaningless sound of the mantra--what we may call the *mechanics* of magic, currently under heavy research and experimentation. Moreover, mantras, yes, are not just affirmations. They are more than that.
So for now I only hope this post will briefly still adequately present the general theory on the power behind mantras, which is *almost* the same behind *affirmations*, also behind *writings* of all sorts, let alone the myriad of spells, chants, prayers, amulets, talismans, sigils, companies' logos, clubs' mascots, countries' flags, members' avatars, national anthems, Christmas chimes, police sirens.... all endless list of visible and audible *symbols*, virtually in all traditions, rituals, protocols and techniques that involve such physical thought *bases* and meaning "vehicles*.
|10-28-2010, 05:27 PM||#5 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2010
I used "om shreem shreem shreem maha lakshmiyeh namaha" for about 45 days this summer. I'm unfamiliar with the ritual that goes along with it, but I said it 108 times a day, as I've seen recommended. The mantra is for wealth and while I didn't make millions with it, I did notice it helped me create some money synchronicities, and I think it helped me to get a new job.
|10-29-2010, 12:00 AM||#6 (permalink)|
Join Date: Oct 2010
Mantras can be either meaningless or meaningful; personally, I prefer meaningless. I use "Om na ma shi va ya," simply because I learned it many years ago. I'd bet that making something up yourself would work just as well.
When you repeat a mantra, you replace your usual anxious thoughts with the mantra. The result is that your usual anxiety-producing worries go away, at least temporarily. I use a mantra for general relaxation or in place of a nap. It lowers anxiety levels in general for the rest of the day. I also use a mantra when I have trouble going to sleep.
I'm guessing some people would say I'm using my mantra incorrectly. Maybe so; I've just never been interested in using it for anything else. A web search would give you much free information on how to do it correctly - assuming there really is such a thing as doing it correctly.
Personally, I don't see that mantras directly bring about change. Although, practicing a mantra can induce a frame of mind where you can more easily accomplish anything you want.
|11-02-2010, 03:54 PM||#8 (permalink)|
Join Date: Sep 2009
Thanks for the responses guys.
Sorter, I am the same way. But I was curious to see those who had experimented with them what they felt about it. If they found ritual did matter.
I've noticed with mantras it's a bit easier for me to find a steady rhythm than some of the afformations or affirmations I create sometimes. I also notice with mantras I can feel all the words vibrate in me sometimes, unlike afformations and affirmations which vibrate at the end breath.
I like to see what all is working for others and understand why the technique works so I an apply it to my own. I just believe mantras are someone's refined and perfected affirmation.
Like right now, tone and rhythm are in play for me. I notice singing always uplifts my mood (even if I'm singing an angry song). When making affirmations or afformations we tend to find a rhythm, which I wonder if it means we are in a more positive frame of mind. Which would mean that by singing we naturally make our mood more positive. So I could understand rhythm, what about tone now? Is my tone what's giving the vibrations during the words?
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