Understanding Consciousness.

[judge45]

To understand consciousness we need to understand present moment awareness (PMA) PMA is all there is, as nothing really exists before or after it. Therefore consciousness can only exist in PMA.

Everthing that is outside of your PMA is a memory (thought) or an idea (thought) but even those only exist in PMA, so you can only be real in PMA, no where else and nothing outside of your PMA can be real, because it's not in your PMA.

So what happens to people when they leave your PMA? They cease to exist. They cannot be real because you cannot perceive them in your PMA. How do you know the staue of liberty is real? It can only ever be real when it's in your PMA, any other time it is just a thought.

Thoughts are not consciousness, they are a product of it.

Consciousness is the ability to define your present moment awareness, that's where you exist and only where you exist. Nothing else is real or matters unless you put it into your present moment awareness.

Present moment awareness is where all the power is, because that's where your consciousness is. That's why whatever you're placing in your PMA is so powerful, because it is the only place it's real.

I said that consciousness defines your present moment awareness, but I think it's the other way around, present moment awareness defines your consciousness.

HTH

Jeff

[DoAnyOfYouExist]

I can't see you Jeff, nor have I ever had you in my PMA, besides text. You don't exist Jeff. Do you enjoy hearing that? Most people do not like when I tell them they don't exist when I can't see them. You seem to welcome the idea. Bully for you my friend. Where does everyone "go" when they aren't in your pma? I caught a glimpse of where people go and how they really enter your pma when I was on salvia, but I don't feel like explaining, it seems very mechanical to me.

[judge45]

I caught a glimpse of where people go and how they really enter your pma when I was on salvia, but I don't feel like explaining, it seems very mechanical to me.

C'mon explain where you go when you're not in my PMA, you know you want to

Jeff

Actually don't exist when not in PMA is probably an incorrect way to describe it. Maybe cease to be important is better.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by judge45

To understand consciousness we need to understand present moment awareness (PMA) PMA is all there is, as nothing really exists before or after it. Therefore consciousness can only exist in PMA.
Everthing that is outside of your PMA is a memory (thought) or an idea (thought) but even those only exist in PMA, so you can only be real in PMA, no where else and nothing outside of your PMA can be real, because it's not in your PMA.
So what happens to people when they leave your PMA? They cease to exist. Jeff

I really don't get any of this. If I am fast asleep, I am still conscious somewhere (I just don't remember when I wake up). I may be focusing part of my consciousness on a life I led a million years ago, and part of it on my family at home and part of it in creating something outside of time, such as a new mathematical formula. So where is my PMA?
It just seems to be a new trendy term for something obvious, like your own personal viewpoint or your own field of awareness.

[judge45]

Consciousness is constant, it doesn't stop, ever, but consciousness is also a constant moment awareness or present moment awareness. Consciousness is also not bound by the illusion of time, because it is timeless.

Consciousness decides to have an adventure, gets your body and lives it, get's bored daily and breaks away and leaves the body while the body sleeps.

Consciousness is only ever aware in the present moment and when it's in your body that's it's awareness in the present moment, life is very interesting, but ultimately boring on a cosmic level that's why it leaves everyday and eventually ends the adventure, your body doesn't die by accident consciousness decides to leave.

"I may be focusing part of my consciousness on a life I led a million years ago, and part of it on my family at home and part of it in creating something outside of time, such as a new mathematical formula"

See I don't think that's correct, consciousness is only ever aware in present moment awareness, it's not here there and everywhere. During you day it's focusing on the game of life, at night it's focusing on something else.

I suppose PMA is just a trendy way to describe your field of awareness, but it places more importance on the momentry thing

HTH

Jeff

[Cantando]

Hi Jeff. I see what you are saying now, but I still have a few niggling doubts about your definition or description of what consciousness is.
Obviously, we have different viewpoints and that's cool.
You say "Consciousness decides to ..." and "Consciousness is only ever aware in ... " as if consciousness is the true, essential, you.
I used to believe that but now I'm playing with the concept that consciousness is a tool or attribute of the essential "I" which is a kind of pulsating potentiality, a potential source of power. We use/manifest/project consciousness like shining a light. It may be focused at times like a laser beam on something , or it may be diffused over a wider area, such as a landscape, or it may be series of beams.
An older definition of consciousness I used to go with was "aware of being aware", just watching. You can cascade this to infinity - aware of being aware of being aware of being aware ....