My ultimate intention - dropping the past

[MacFly]

hi people

first, I want to thank you for all the people who helped me before, especially Nichbrahms, thanks. Also ALG.

I came a long way, falied with a lot of intentions, and now I'm at a point where I see how my inner world creates the outer world. Maybe not literally, "magically" creates, but it does.

It led me to the point where I almost dropped all the intentions about the outer world. I see clearly that my past pain, experience and beliefs work against me. Everyday, every minute, 24/7.

So my only intention now is to drop all the past pain, past experience, past false thoughts about myself. It is all subconscious which controls my thinking and therefore my life.

I want to be free of all those things, and I know what I want to do, but these old negative things are coming at me constantly.

How I can drop all of that?

[nicbrahms]

Affirmations my lovely friend, and as usual nice synchro.

This is one I have been doing for the past week, speaking with authority.

The past is dead and buried, I sever all ties with the past.

Henceforth, success, acheivement, accomplishment and self-mastery reign supreme. I am all that I choose to be, that being.......................( insert here).

I like this and it is good, if you stew on the past say it quick.

Also I been talking to my mind, I will say I wish to talk to ego, or personality, or the controller, or the ego-less one. This seems to integrate these aspects together.

Hope this helps and well done, you are brilliant and your journey an inspiration to me.

Love as always.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by MacFly

I see clearly that my past pain, experience and beliefs work against me. Everyday, every minute, 24/7.

Quite a realisation, isn't it?

Originally Posted by MacFly

So my only intention now is to drop all the past pain, past experience, past false thoughts about myself.
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How I can drop all of that?

Intend it. And then, when stuff comes up that ticks you off or annoys you or depresses you or discourages you, just take a quiet look at it with the intention of seeing how it manifested. Not necessarily "why", because that can become a very involved storytelling process in itself (one I used to play a lot and still do on occasion until I realise I'm doing it again!). Just intend to understand/see the thing within your self-image or memories or thoughts that is the filter or pattern that causes your reality to manifest the way it does/did.

Once you get the idea of the pattern, you need to accept it, really own it. Know that it was generated by you for a reason at some point, and it seemed like a reasonable thing to do at the time, but now it no longer serves you and while you appreciate that you created this pattern, you choose to let it go and try something new. So, accept, acknowledge, release.

Some people then set about instilling some new pattern, but, honestly, I find that to be just as problematic. What I think is a good idea today, I might think is a dumb idea in five years' time. I find that the more I can release these patterns of belief and habits of thought and just leave a flexible "open mind" in their place, the more my life flows and the more content I am.

It can take a bit of practice, but once you get into the groove of it, stuff will come up all the time for you to look at and dismiss.

[jacare]

<How can I do that?>

Forgive yourself - Look in the mirror and say "I forgive you"
Love yourself - Look in the mirror and say "I love you"

You don't have to drop the past, you have to drop all judgement of the past. You can adopt the belief that everything is perfect, and unfolding in the perfect way, and your past was perfect to bring you here, and now. It is neither good, nor bad, just perfect.

[lookcloser]

Why not rephrase that and make it- 'My ultimate intention: embracing the present'. It has a nicer ring to it too

[vinceh]

This is an interesting post. The past, what's in it for you? Well for everyone it holds an identity. You dwell on the past because who would you be without it?

You also look to the future for salvation. So the mind dwells constantly in these two states, almost never in the present. Basically it's a dreamlike state we all walk around in. To quote Eckhart Tolle, the more you identify with the mind, the more you suffer.

In addition, before you set an intention, have you considered that what you want may be merely the egoic mind tricking you into believing that if you manifest this one thing you'll be happy?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wanting things, but for example, I remember watching Mooji talk about this: most people have this dream - ideal partner, baby, sunset. Boom! Happiness forever. As he says, this is a big promise, no?

I believe what you are seeking, dropping the past, and to an extent dropping "you", is the holy grail, what every spiritual seeker is seeking (whether they know it or not), and what all the advaita, meditation, and mindfulness books are pointing to.

[cylon]

I don't think you get over your past until you can see the person you used to be in the same way a loving parent would see their small baby. Innocent, doing all they know how to do, and not deserving of criticism or judgment.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by vinceh

This is an interesting post. The past, what's in it for you? Well for everyone it holds an identity. You dwell on the past because who would you be without it?

it's not the memories of the past I want to drop, I want to drop my relationship with it, the way I interpreted those events. because the way I looked at my life and past , is very discouraging and painful. and it is subconscious, of course. if it'd be a conscious thing, I would not be here saying I want to drop it.

I want to think again, reinterpret my past and be a motivated person.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by vinceh

I believe what you are seeking, dropping the past, and to an extent dropping "you", is the holy grail, what every spiritual seeker is seeking (whether they know it or not), and what all the advaita, meditation, and mindfulness books are pointing to.

no, I don't want to be no spiritual guru or anything like that. I just want to be a motivated person and drop the fear the past causes.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

Quite a realisation, isn't it?


Intend it. And then, when stuff comes up that ticks you off or annoys you or depresses you or discourages you, just take a quiet look at it with the intention of seeing how it manifested. Not necessarily "why", because that can become a very involved storytelling process in itself (one I used to play a lot and still do on occasion until I realise I'm doing it again!). Just intend to understand/see the thing within your self-image or memories or thoughts that is the filter or pattern that causes your reality to manifest the way it does/did.

Once you get the idea of the pattern, you need to accept it, really own it. Know that it was generated by you for a reason at some point, and it seemed like a reasonable thing to do at the time, but now it no longer serves you and while you appreciate that you created this pattern, you choose to let it go and try something new. So, accept, acknowledge, release.

Some people then set about instilling some new pattern, but, honestly, I find that to be just as problematic. What I think is a good idea today, I might think is a dumb idea in five years' time. I find that the more I can release these patterns of belief and habits of thought and just leave a flexible "open mind" in their place, the more my life flows and the more content I am.

It can take a bit of practice, but once you get into the groove of it, stuff will come up all the time for you to look at and dismiss.

thank you

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by jacare

<How can I do that?>

Forgive yourself - Look in the mirror and say "I forgive you"
Love yourself - Look in the mirror and say "I love you"

You don't have to drop the past, you have to drop all judgement of the past. You can adopt the belief that everything is perfect, and unfolding in the perfect way, and your past was perfect to bring you here, and now. It is neither good, nor bad, just perfect.

yes I think you understand me. I'm a kind of person now who... lets say a guy want to be a successfull runner. you see that the guy is actually fast as hell, but you always see him beside the track being upset, instead of entering the contest and win. because he can't forget past pain.

[MacFly]

maybe I didn't expressed myself properly. I want to drop FEAR.

I have a subconscious fear and don't know why. On a conscious level, I'm not a scary person, but there is an underlying fear in me. And I have a lot of negative past so I guess something hidden fear waits to be revealed.

[mikej]

if you change the way you feel about yourself in the present you will at the same time be changing your relationship with the past as it is contained in the present.

if you specifically want to drop fear, focus on its opposite which is love.

anyway, you've identified the problem as being the subconscious mind so i think you're on the right track.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by mikej

if you change the way you feel about yourself in the present you will at the same time be changing your relationship with the past as it is contained in the present.

if you specifically want to drop fear, focus on its opposite which is love.

anyway, you've identified the problem as being the subconscious mind so i think you're on the right track.

if hope you're a prophet! thank you

[mikej]

haha, not a prophet just passing on what i've learnt from others which has been helpful to me.

having read your posts, i completely understand where you're coming from.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by mikej

haha, not a prophet just passing on what i've learnt from others which has been helpful to me.

you should've said "yes i am". just playing

[slypg]

What if you realize that there is only the present moment and past as future are playing out in your head in the present. So, your dominant feeling in the present is the only one there is. Because of that, you can only feel "one way" at a time, either you feel good or you feel bad.

If you focus yourself on your present, instead of your future, or your past, and look for things to feel good about. Really feel good about until you gain that strong positive emotion, would you still feel fear in the back of your mind?

you only would, if you would have some thoughts active (consciously) in your mind. But what I ask you for is to emerge yourself completely in the present moment to enjoy it, having no conscious thoughts about the past.

This may be hard for the first time, because you may not even be aware of your negative thoughts right now. But your feeling indicates what kind of thoughts you currently have in your mind. Don't fight them, because you'll still giving them attention. It's much better to change your thought and focus on something feeling better.

I hope you get what I want to tell you? Try it..

[jacare]

Originally Posted by MacFly

maybe I didn't expressed myself properly. I want to drop FEAR.

I have a subconscious fear and don't know why. On a conscious level, I'm not a scary person, but there is an underlying fear in me. And I have a lot of negative past so I guess something hidden fear waits to be revealed.

You should look into EFT

YouTube - eft

[SunnyDays]

You can revise it ....I tried this suggestion by Neville Goddard a few times not with only the daily things but also with my past and it helps, maybe it does the same for you

"At the end of my day, I review the day; I don't judge it, I simply review it. I look over the entire day, all the episodes, all the events, all the conversations, all the meetings, and then as I see it clearly in my mind's eye, I rewrite it. I rewrite it and make it conform to the ideal day I wish I had experienced. I take scene after scene and rewrite it, revise it, and having revised my day, then in my imagination I relive that day, the revised day, and I do it over and over in my imagination until this seeming imagined state begins to take on to me the tones of reality. It seems that it's real, that I actually did experience it and I have found from experience that these revised days, if really lived, will change my tomorrows. When I meet people tomorrow that today disappointed me, they will not tomorrow, for in me I have changed the very nature of that being, and having changed him, he bears witness tomorrow of the change that took place within me."

[ssandra]

Originally Posted by MacFly

How I can drop all of that?

Time techniques as practiced by Angela and several other NLP coaches can help with releasing emotions that are no longer useful to you.

You can google it for more information.

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by cylon

I don't think you get over your past until you can see the person you used to be in the same way a loving parent would see their small baby. Innocent, doing all they know how to do, and not deserving of criticism or judgment.

Oh, yes.

It took me a really long time to start to love my former self. And when bits of her still surface (the bits I don't like, obviously), I tend to be very resistant (generally, I see these qualities mirrored in other people, but sometimes I see them in this self, as well).

Once I started to be able to have compassion for that person that I was (and occasionally am), releasing "stuff" from my past became much easier. It's very true that I honestly did do the best I could, given who I was then, and the limitations of the tools I had available to me.

I will share one thing I had BIG issues with, and still sometimes do. My mother and I have never had a good relationship, for a lot of reasons. Whenever I see anything in myself (or others, mirrored to me) that reminds me that I might have things in common with my mother, it tends to set off old patterns and cycles and so on. Eventually, I figured out that I didn't forgive myself because if I did that, I had to forgive my mother for the same things, and I didn't want to do that. My own righteous indignation at my mother, which I did not want to release (too much a part of my identity!), prevented me from forgiving myself. Twisted, eh? And very, very healing and freeing to release that and just let it all go. She was who she was, she is who she is, it's not my problem any more, and I deserve to be free and forgiven, and so does she (not that I want to have a relationship with her again, but I have forgiven, anyway).

I shared that because I suspect it will be a mirror for others. A LOT of people with a troubled past have poor relationships with one or both parents or other family members. It seems to be very nearly universal.

Forgive others, and you forgive yourself. It does work.

[lookcloser]

Originally Posted by cylon

I don't think you get over your past until you can see the person you used to be in the same way a loving parent would see their small baby. Innocent, doing all they know how to do, and not deserving of criticism or judgment.

Beautiful. So the fallacy being in the fact that we somehow think, we have to FORGIVE ourselves for the past, when really there is nothing to forgive?

[MacFly]

Interesting. I never really believed the power of thought. Or a better way to say, I may believed in it, but didn't really realized, understood it.

But now, I'm in a dangerous situation. Too much negative thoughts (one may call it depression) created more negative thoughts, and made me get to a point where all the world around me became depressing to me. At least, it became look depressing through the filter of my negativity.

And now I see that, when I have a few positive hours, it's always a negative thought that brings me down again.

I want positive thoughts.

[MacFly]

Seems like, PON is a solution even in this situation. Best thing I ever read.

[Acting Like Godot]

PON after all is a means of eliminating negative thoughts about the past.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by MacFly

maybe I didn't expressed myself properly. I want to drop FEAR.

I have a subconscious fear and don't know why. On a conscious level, I'm not a scary person, but there is an underlying fear in me. And I have a lot of negative past so I guess something hidden fear waits to be revealed.

I once remember a friend calling me up after discovering for the first time the concept of limiting beliefs and asking me this question:

"Hey Paul, I found out I have a limiting belief. What's the fastest way for me to get rid of all my limiting beliefs?"

I couldn't stop laughing. The way it was said was as if you just clap your hands and poof all your limiting beliefs are gone.

I'm not saying that's impossible, but just saying that in most cases people need to peel back layer after layer and release one layer of limiting beliefs only to expose another layer and then keep going deeper and deeper.

Your desire to release "FEAR" is awesome, but one thing I would consider is whether or not what you're striving for is even possible as a human being. Meaning, to completely get rid of FEAR would be to completely 100% embrace LOVE.

Wouldn't that be like being Jesus or God? Like achieving complete fearlessness would be to transcend duality, no?

In order to do something like that I think you'd have to release fear in your life everywhere, not just just in the past. The past doesn't exist, only the present exists so it is really your fear in the present that keeps your past fears alive.

But once gain, in order to get rid of all FEAR in the present would be total enlightenment, no?

Maybe the best way to approach this is to learn to work with fear, while you work on your quest to fully transcend it. Kind of like that book "Feel the Fear, and Do It Anyway" suggests.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Wouldn't that be like being Jesus or God? Like achieving complete fearlessness would be to transcend duality, no?

I don't think. I just want to get rid of fears that are limiting me heavily. I don't want to get rid of the fear of a train at 130 mps.

I just want to release old irrational fears from childhood. Family fights, confusion about my parents and tragics. I think those events remain in me unresolved and doesn't matter how I strong I am as a person, my subconscious hasn't "updated" so to say.

[lookcloser]

Originally Posted by MacFly

I don't think. I just want to get rid of fears that are limiting me heavily. I don't want to get rid of the fear of a train at 130 mps.

I just want to release old irrational fears from childhood. Family fights, confusion about my parents and tragics. I think those events remain in me unresolved and doesn't matter how I strong I am as a person, my subconscious hasn't "updated" so to say.

I really think you can MacFly. You have recognized it is limiting you, you have made an intention to get rid of it and you seem to be working on it.
Its only a matter of time. Keep hope alive no matter what.
Sometimes I look back and wonder how in the world did I get here! Its amazing what can happen once you bring stuff from the unconscious to your conscious mind.
Good luck! *Sends a lovin hug!!*

[Futhark]

Originally Posted by MacFly

I don't think. I just want to get rid of fears that are limiting me heavily. I don't want to get rid of the fear of a train at 130 mps.

I just want to release old irrational fears from childhood. Family fights, confusion about my parents and tragics. I think those events remain in me unresolved and doesn't matter how I strong I am as a person, my subconscious hasn't "updated" so to say.

The only way to "update" so to say your present reality and your present mind is to saturate it with so much material that it simply does not have the time or the care to focus on these problems of your past.

Move away, join a club, start a new job, find new friends - anything to distract yourself.

You will then be in a new reality.

[MacFly]

Originally Posted by Futhark

The only way to "update" so to say your present reality and your present mind is to saturate it with so much material that it simply does not have the time or the care to focus on these problems of your past.

Move away, join a club, start a new job, find new friends - anything to distract yourself.

You will then be in a new reality.

sounds like a realizable idea. thank you