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elucidate · 09-15-2010, 02:35 AM

How come themaster was banned...after all this time?

SethWilliams · 09-15-2010, 02:39 AM

Themaster has been banned? Wow. Thought id never see the day.

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SethWilliams

Themaster has been banned? Wow. Thought id never see the day.

I know...thought he was a lifer

So ...can anyone fill us in...mods? Anyone?

ssandra · 09-15-2010, 02:59 AM

The Master has been warned and choose to ignore those warnings. That is when people get banned.

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ssandra

The Master has been warned and choose to ignore those warnings. That is when people get banned.

Ok. I'm just wondering what he did to get those warnings I guess...I figured he must have done something, but I couldn't see anything other than the usual.

Then again, I tend to not look very closely at his posts when he did write.

I guess I'm just in shock or something...I mean...no more master

dream · 09-15-2010, 03:08 AM

I was thinking yesterday how I saw three persons banned and wondered, that seemed to be a lot at one time. Now today the Master was Banned. Well that's not stopping any of them as they continue joining in the fun.

ssandra · 09-15-2010, 03:09 AM

Just as an FYI, 9 out of 10 (or better said: 99 out of a 100) persons that are banned are banned because of spam.

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 03:11 AM

I'm neither happy nor sad about it...just indifferent...

Ah, who am I kidding

Cado · 09-15-2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elucidate

Ok. I'm just wondering what he did to get those warnings I guess...I figured he must have done something, but I couldn't see anything other than the usual.

Then again, I tend to not look very closely at his posts when he did write.

I guess I'm just in shock or something...I mean...no more master

I'd had him on ignore for a long time because he never said much of value. I got a strong talking-down-to-you vibe from him so I'm not surprised that he's gone.

On the plus side there'll be less visual clutter in the kinds of topics he'd frequent.

ssandra · 09-15-2010, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by elucidate

i'm neither happy nor sad about it...just indifferent...

Ah, who am i kidding

lol

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 03:14 AM

Delayed relief just set in

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Illustro Cado

I'd had him on ignore for a long time because he never said much of value. I got a strong talking-down-to-you vibe from him so I'm not surprised that he's gone.

On the plus side there'll be less visual clutter in the kinds of topics he'd frequent.

Same...and then I decided to not ignore the part of me that is EXTREMELY annoying...but it didn't last

I'm just surprised it took so long.

James81 · 09-15-2010, 04:42 AM

I can see why themaster was banned...

But I have no idea why RockChick was banned. Hell, she didn't ask to be the subject of pity parties. She didn't even make the initial thread. All she did was defend herself against the myriads of people who kept thinking they had to give her advice. Is that really bannable?

Or did I miss something? (perhaps she was an alter ego account of themaster's?

)

ssandra · 09-15-2010, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by James81

I can see why themaster was banned...

But I have no idea why RockChick was banned. Hell, she didn't ask to be the subject of pity parties. She didn't even make the initial thread. All she did was defend herself against the myriads of people who kept thinking they had to give her advice. Is that really bannable?

Or did I miss something? (perhaps she was an alter ego account of themaster's?

)

Rockchick didn't make the first thread, but she did write in that one. She DID make the second thread and even refused to take responsibility for that.

Nobody held a gun against her head and made her answer. If she answers, she is participant in these forums and therefor has to follow the rules.

Which clearly state "No pity parties". Which includes if someone is unwilling to change or take responsibility for their actions.

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Members who exhibit a pattern of negative "poor me" posts with minimal receptiveness to change will be banned. These forums are for people who assume full responsibility for their lives, not for those who are looking to be objects of pity or to assign blame.

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 04:55 AM

Rockchick was banned?

WTF I thought she was doing better?

Maybe it's for the best and she can get on with her life now that she isn't feeling compelled to answer all the people advising her without her asking for it.

MissEmpress · 09-15-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by elucidate

How come themaster was banned...after all this time?

Wow...strangely enough, I am new here and every time I saw his posts I felt a weird, unnerving vibe from them but didn't think much of it. I kinda just glossed over them as more often than not I just didn't like how I felt upon reading them...

Anyway, I visited that thread with him and rockchick today and was completely annoyed by it and thought to myself "Wow...why is this guy here anyway? How come he isn't banned?" soo WOW, what a surprise that I see this thread as I log on. Maybe it was my unconscious intention that made the difference. He's been here for a while, I'm new and just recently thought this and he's just recently banned lol

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MissEmpress

Wow...strangely enough, I am new here and every time I saw his posts I felt a weird, unnerving vibe from them but didn't think much of it. I kinda just glossed over them as more often than not I just didn't like how I felt upon reading them...

Anyway, I visited that thread with him and rockchick today and was completely annoyed by it and thought to myself "Wow...why is this guy here anyway? How come he isn't banned?" soo WOW, what a surprise that I see this thread as I log on. Maybe it was my unconscious intention that made the difference. He's been here for a while, I'm new and just recently thought this and he's just recently banned lol

Out with the old, in with the new

I'm sure your sentiments were on the minds of alot of people here m'dear.

Welcome to the club

MissEmpress · 09-15-2010, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by elucidate

Out with the old, in with the new

I'm sure your sentiments were on the minds of alot of people here m'dear.

Welcome to the club

Thanks

Maybe it was a collective intention lol

elucidate · 09-15-2010, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MissEmpress

Thanks

Maybe it was a collective intention lol

Or maybe he had put somesort of hypnotizing spell on the mods to overlook his posts for so long, until one day it wore off and they started noticing

(maybe that's giving him too much credit though?)

Sounds like he got a fair few warnings...so maybe he just thought he was unbannable?

MagicalRealist · 09-15-2010, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MissEmpress

Anyway, I visited that thread with him and rockchick today and was completely annoyed by it and thought to myself "Wow...why is this guy here anyway? How come he isn't banned?"

As I read that thread this morning I thought, "Okay, he really has gone too far. This is some seriously dysfunctional stuff, and not remotely healthy for anyone involved, least of all Rockchick. Time to ban him--or at least suspend him for a while."

Then I refreshed the page, and...BANNED! Whoah, dude! My I-M powers are awesome! All shall love me and despair...

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Maybe it was my unconscious intention that made the difference.

Seriously? I think it was a group intention. LOL. ETA: Thanks for your contribution! And welcome!

escapeplan · 09-15-2010, 11:20 AM

Active day for the mods yesterday. I got a warning too, but it was fair play to the mod concerned

roxyruby · 09-15-2010, 12:09 PM

I'm not sure if banning those 2 forum members was a cruel enforcement of "rules just because they are the rules" or if it really was done because people on this forum were being hurt/damaged

I guess I have not seen these previous big postings by rockchick so I may not have enough information but am saying what I think with the information I do have ^ ^

I guess if they were given a clear warning first that they read before they typed a new post that would make things a bit better....

I just feel sad about this. Especially themaster and maybe rockchick too, I felt like really they could feel accepted here and this was one place where they belonged and loved to express them-self.

I actually my self have vented a lot in these forums, I don't know if it could be called a "pity party" or not, mostly was in the "Venting Thread" made especially to yell and scream and vent!!!

I hadn't read much from rockchick either...but seeing what she was saying did make me feel sad. I hope that she fully heals from her cognitive illness to be fully mentally well and moves to living a happy, stress-free life, and having a full and well-off life too but most importantly happy and stress-free.

No matter how much people vent or throw a pity party....maybe it is understandable by how they have been feeling.....they still have the basic need of love, encouragement, and support.

Unless giving them love, encouragement, and support is damaging your self, well then that is an understandable reason to not be able to help someone, unfortunately, but you are an important human bein too.

I've been speaking up to people in my life a lot more by many many times, saying out loud "I have been feeling depressed" I tell them why I have been feeling depressed, and eventually I hear some useful advice and they give me encouragement...

So honestly I don't know how far back I would be if I hadn't at first "Vented about my problems" because that lead to encouragement from others that I NEEDED because it did not exist in my own brain, and INSPIRED and empowered me to move towards something healing for my life.

It doesn't happen instantly though. I may have expressed how depressed I feel countless times...but THROUGH that other people gave me encouragement and support....perhaps something that was a basic social/emotional need for me...that gave me power to move....

Sending lots of love to everyone. I hope things will work out the best for everyone. <3

Andrew Gubb · 09-15-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Illustro Cado

I'd had him on ignore for a long time because he never said much of value. I got a strong talking-down-to-you vibe from him so I'm not surprised that he's gone.

On the plus side there'll be less visual clutter in the kinds of topics he'd frequent.

I unblocked him cause he was funny in small doses. But mostly I just read the threads as if he wasn't there.

Definitely he seemed to think he was more enlightened than anyone and mostly just talked nonsense.

Farewell TM, these forums will be lighter and more coherent without you.

On A Lark · 09-15-2010, 01:04 PM

When I first came here a lot of the links The Master posted were really helpful to me. Then I started reading all of his posts and recognized he said a lot of the same things over and over. He was definitely an individual and on his own path...I chose to ignore a lot of the rambling recently.

Bliss Sage · 09-15-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MissEmpress

Wow...strangely enough, I am new here and every time I saw his posts I felt a weird, unnerving vibe from them but didn't think much of it. I kinda just glossed over them as more often than not I just didn't like how I felt upon reading them...

Wow, I thought I was the only one who had this experience of him lol. It looks like most everyone writing here has had it in some form or another. Really, MissEmpress, you took the words right out of my mouth -and so have a lot of other people on this thread. Phew.

ellie · 09-15-2010, 01:15 PM

Hmmm I'm really surprised with decision with Rockchick, given that I have seen plenty of users have pity parties.

Personally I think it's a shame...I feel like when I first started out on here, I had a bit of a "pity party" to, but slowly came to resolve things, with support from forum members. I can now say I am happier and doing better than ever. So people can change...I'm evidence of that

In regards to "the master", all I will say is...that I just ended up skipping all his posts.

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Members who exhibit a pattern of negative "poor me" posts with minimal receptiveness to change will be banned. These forums are for people who assume full responsibility for their lives, not for those who are looking to be objects of pity or to assign blame.

Arboretor · 09-15-2010, 01:18 PM

But I don't think he'll be able to stay off these forums forever...

Federer · 09-15-2010, 01:34 PM

I never knew about these banning.

I was thinking these two people are on for break time. Just saw this thread and came to know. It's not good thing to see ban on people.

carenkh · 09-15-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ellie

Personally I think it's a shame...I feel like when I first started out on here, I had a bit of a "pity party" to, but slowly came to resolve things, with support from forum members. I can now say I am happier and doing better than ever. So people can change...I'm evidence of that

A pity party is one thing - a nearly three-year-long (at least) commitment to not taking responsibility is another. If you're not in a place to even take responsibility for posting a thread... there's more going on than we can reasonably help with.

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Originally Posted by roxyruby

I felt like really they could feel accepted here and this was one place where they belonged and loved to express them-self. <snip> ....they still have the basic need of love, encouragement, and support.

An entire world of support, love and encouragement exists outside the Steve Pavlina forum. I hope they move on to somewhere that works better for where they are.

gigij · 09-15-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ellie

In regards to "the master", all I will say is...that I just ended up skipping all his posts.

+1

Did anyone actually read his posts ... I mean after they have been here more than a week?

I am surprised though - I figured he was here to stay.

09-15-2010, 02:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
elucidate Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 12,751	Curious minds wanna know... How come themaster was banned...after all this time?

09-15-2010, 12:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
roxyruby Family Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 5,929	I'm not sure if banning those 2 forum members was a cruel enforcement of "rules just because they are the rules" or if it really was done because people on this forum were being hurt/damaged I guess I have not seen these previous big postings by rockchick so I may not have enough information but am saying what I think with the information I do have ^ ^ I guess if they were given a clear warning first that they read before they typed a new post that would make things a bit better.... I just feel sad about this. Especially themaster and maybe rockchick too, I felt like really they could feel accepted here and this was one place where they belonged and loved to express them-self. I actually my self have vented a lot in these forums, I don't know if it could be called a "pity party" or not, mostly was in the "Venting Thread" made especially to yell and scream and vent!!! I hadn't read much from rockchick either...but seeing what she was saying did make me feel sad. I hope that she fully heals from her cognitive illness to be fully mentally well and moves to living a happy, stress-free life, and having a full and well-off life too but most importantly happy and stress-free. No matter how much people vent or throw a pity party....maybe it is understandable by how they have been feeling.....they still have the basic need of love, encouragement, and support. Unless giving them love, encouragement, and support is damaging your self, well then that is an understandable reason to not be able to help someone, unfortunately, but you are an important human bein too. I've been speaking up to people in my life a lot more by many many times, saying out loud "I have been feeling depressed" I tell them why I have been feeling depressed, and eventually I hear some useful advice and they give me encouragement... So honestly I don't know how far back I would be if I hadn't at first "Vented about my problems" because that lead to encouragement from others that I NEEDED because it did not exist in my own brain, and INSPIRED and empowered me to move towards something healing for my life. It doesn't happen instantly though. I may have expressed how depressed I feel countless times...but THROUGH that other people gave me encouragement and support....perhaps something that was a basic social/emotional need for me...that gave me power to move.... Sending lots of love to everyone. I hope things will work out the best for everyone. <3 Last edited by roxyruby; 09-15-2010 at 12:12 PM.

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09-15-2010, 02:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
SethWilliams Family Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United Kingdom :) Posts: 1,735	Themaster has been banned? Wow. Thought id never see the day.

09-15-2010, 02:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
ssandra Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 11,168	The Master has been warned and choose to ignore those warnings. That is when people get banned.

09-15-2010, 03:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
dream Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 614	I was thinking yesterday how I saw three persons banned and wondered, that seemed to be a lot at one time. Now today the Master was Banned. Well that's not stopping any of them as they continue joining in the fun.

09-15-2010, 03:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
ssandra Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mexico City Posts: 11,168	Just as an FYI, 9 out of 10 (or better said: 99 out of a 100) persons that are banned are banned because of spam.

09-15-2010, 03:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
elucidate Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 12,751	I'm neither happy nor sad about it...just indifferent... Ah, who am I kidding

09-15-2010, 03:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
elucidate Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 12,751	Delayed relief just set in

09-15-2010, 04:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
James81 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,690	I can see why themaster was banned... But I have no idea why RockChick was banned. Hell, she didn't ask to be the subject of pity parties. She didn't even make the initial thread. All she did was defend herself against the myriads of people who kept thinking they had to give her advice. Is that really bannable? Or did I miss something? (perhaps she was an alter ego account of themaster's? )

09-15-2010, 04:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
elucidate Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 12,751	Rockchick was banned? WTF I thought she was doing better? Maybe it's for the best and she can get on with her life now that she isn't feeling compelled to answer all the people advising her without her asking for it.

09-15-2010, 11:20 AM	#21 (permalink)
escapeplan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 839	Active day for the mods yesterday. I got a warning too, but it was fair play to the mod concerned

09-15-2010, 01:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
On A Lark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 209	When I first came here a lot of the links The Master posted were really helpful to me. Then I started reading all of his posts and recognized he said a lot of the same things over and over. He was definitely an individual and on his own path...I chose to ignore a lot of the rambling recently.

09-15-2010, 01:18 PM	#27 (permalink)
Arboretor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 397	But I don't think he'll be able to stay off these forums forever...

09-15-2010, 01:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
Federer Family Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: India Posts: 2,935	I never knew about these banning. I was thinking these two people are on for break time. Just saw this thread and came to know. It's not good thing to see ban on people.

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