What did Steve mean?

[SecretSeven]

Steve said:

There can only be one subjective reality. There are no other people “out there” having their own subjective experiences. There is only you. And your subjective reality is the only one there is.

What did he mean by this??

[Alex]

Well, from what I understand, it seems perfectly clear that Steve was speaking specifically to you

[SecretSeven]

Lol,

Steve doesn't even know me...so I don't think that would be possible hehe

[jojo]

...you are your reality?! Everything that happens is in relation to you and your experience of it, your intent towards or away from it, your beliefs, your actions...everything that is you, makes up your reality and only you can know that reality. So for you, only YOUR reality exists. This is what I took from what Steve said. Not sure though, anyone else with any ideas?

[mysterygal]

Yes, but we all have different realites. So which reality is "real"? Mine, yours, Steve's?

[jojo]

Yours! For you. Mine! For me. Steve's. For Steve. They are all real and all subjective. I think maybe you are asking if there is an objective reality separate to the reality you experience?

[Cantando]

[QUOTE=jojo;52410 So for you, only YOUR reality exists. This is what I took from what Steve said. Not sure though, anyone else with any ideas?[/QUOTE]

Yes, but please consider that by understanding other people's realities, we advance spiritually. In this age of high tech communications, there is no excuse for ignoring other peoples' 'realities' in third world countries, for example. You expand your own consciousness by truly and compassionately getting to understand where others are coming from. To realize you have your own subjective reality doesn't mean that others' subjective realities don't matter, don't count, don't exist, etc.

[John Wesley]

I think he meant that reality is only the set of experiences and perceptions that exist in your mind. Things are only 'real' according to how they exist in your mind, so nothing else anyone perceives matter, reality is in your mind.

[SecretSeven]

Yes but everybody has a different reality in their minds. so Which one is right?

[Michael Chui]

You are the universe. The "subjective" is with respect to, thus, the universe.

[shant121]

Originally Posted by SecretSeven

Yes but everybody has a different reality in their minds. so Which one is right?

This is your thought ... i.e. you created the reality that "everybody has a different reality in their minds". You even created a shant121 to come and post this reply into your thread :P. but really, thats what Steve means.

[SecretSeven]

shant121...do you believe that?

[SecretSeven]

So, if I'm "the universe" then the 6 billion people on the planet are all equally the universe? Is that what you mean?

[SecretSeven]

I'm still having trouble grasping what Steve was trying to say. It sounds like he was saying that nobody exists except for me. That would mean that I am the only thinking being, and everybody else are just manifestations of my consciousness. I think that's so silly.

Shant121 said"You even created a shant121 to come and post this reply into your thread :P. but really, thats what Steve means".........obviously Shant121 existed way before this post. I didn't "create" him.....riiight?

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by SecretSeven

So, if I'm "the universe" then the 6 billion people on the planet are all equally the universe? Is that what you mean?

Correct. They are you and you are they. Does nobody exist but you? Of course. Because nobody is not you. How could there possibly be an Other?

The pivotal revelation is that you are a manifestation of your consciousness. Just like everybody else, who are also manifestation of your (their) consciousness.

[SecretSeven]

Thanks for the reply

Do other people(egos) have experiences, thoughts, memories and ideas just like my person(ego)?

[Michael Chui]

(Note: I can't say I'm entirely convinced I understand the word "ego", which is why I don't use it. But I'm going to define it as something I can't explain and answer your question anyways.)

Presumably. My ego wouldn't be able to tell. But, near as I can tell, this ego is having experiences, thoughts, memories, and ideas. Since this ego is a manifestation of the universe, and since I don't see anything distinguishing it from other egos, then presumably other egos also have experiences, thoughts, memories, and ideas.

[judge45]

There are not 6 billion people on the planet. There isn't even a planet, unless they specifically come into your awareness.

You cannot have awareness of every single projection all at once, you will notice you can only manage a few at a time.

You sit in your living room and observe, some people (maybe friends/family) things like a TV, walls etc, but you have no awareness of the 6 billion people living all over the world or the world as a planet.

If you were floating around in space, you'd be aware of the spaceship you were in and the earth seen from the window and space, but you wouldn't be aware of your living room and the 6 billion people on earth.

This is why present moment awareness is very important to your existance here and the key to SR.

HTH

Jeff

[SecretSeven]

What did you mean when you said there are not six billion people on the planet??
Are all humans just projections? Would that meant that both you and I are just projections? Sorry, this question might be redundant but I'm just try to grasp this subjctive reality thing.

[magickmystik]

when you sleep and dream, the characters are projections, you can feel when you dream, interact, you can even touch things and feel them, it feels real... and you could swear it is real... remember being chased by someone or something and you run?

and then you wake up, aha.... it was just a dream .. "it all happens in my mind"

and when you are awake, you call this, a waking reality

perhaps one day you wake up from this 'waking reality' too

aha... it was a dream too ....

and then you wake up from that too

aha... it was a collective dream

(i am not sure what i am talking about )

[SecretSeven]

lol,

But in a dream only one person, one character, can feel, think. But in this dream theory there's 6 billion people that think and feel. So, isn't it different than a dream?

[magickmystik]

i copy n paste this

"There are actually seven states of awareness. Deep sleep is the first; dreaming is the second; then the third stage is waking; the forth stage is meditation; the fifth is called cosmic consciousness, which is when you have that internal experience of meditation in deep sleep, dreaming, and waking, so you are established in that state even while in action. Then beyond cosmic consciousness is the sixth stage of consciousness which is God consciousness, where you become aware of the spirit in the objects of your perception. So you look at a flower and you can feel the presence of divinity within it. Or you look at a telephone or a table or a shoe and you can feel the presence of the infinite in it. The infinite is everywhere. And the seventh stage is the ever present witnessing awareness in the object of experience. They fuse and become one, and when that happens then you experience enlightenment--you see the whole world as an expression of yourself and you see that the ground of your being is also the ground of all existence."

go figure it

all i can say... until you experience it first hand, you won't understand it

[SecretSeven]

Seven is my favorite number lol.....I'm doing a project on consciousness right now in psychology class....so I'm going to look into that more..