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oasis 09-10-2010 11:31 PM

Intention Manifestation and what happens at death
 
Purely got a question for all those people who believe in a 100% subjective reality, in the sense that you are the only primary observer. Just interested in seeing the views anyone who really subscribes massively to that view.

If consciousness creates the world around us, what happens when you, the viewing point of the world dies and moves on. I know that of course the egoself isn't the real you, but still, doesn't it need to exist for a world to be observed?

SethWilliams 09-10-2010 11:34 PM

IF your going from a subjective reality veiwpoint.

Then the world would stop existing. And whatever afterlife you believed in would start existing.

oasis 09-10-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SethWilliams (Post 693173)
IF your going from a subjective reality veiwpoint.

Then the world would stop existing. And whatever afterlife you believed in would start existing.

The question being where would it end lol

oasis 09-10-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SethWilliams (Post 693173)
IF your going from a subjective reality veiwpoint.

Then the world would stop existing. And whatever afterlife you believed in would start existing.

I mean going from 1 world to the next and so on and so on :)

Alena 09-10-2010 11:51 PM

what happens to your dream when you wake up? :)

Anagogy 09-11-2010 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by oasis (Post 693170)
Purely got a question for all those people who believe in a 100% subjective reality, in the sense that you are the only primary observer. Just interested in seeing the views anyone who really subscribes massively to that view.

If consciousness creates the world around us, what happens when you, the viewing point of the world dies and moves on. I know that of course the egoself isn't the real you, but still, doesn't it need to exist for a world to be observed?

Correct. The self you and everybody else, who is below the threshold of enlightenment, identifies with, is not the real you so the physical world goes right on existing because the real you is infinite in scope and has no inherent limitations. It is continuously observing ALL realities. Thus, all realities exist.

However, I should state that this real self does not perceive these realities like we do because it experiences wholes rather than perceiving portions. So in a sense you could say these realities didn't exist until egoic observers were there to perceive them. You could say that in the same sense that you could say the statue of David didn't exist until Michelangelo chipped away everything that was not the statue of David. Egoic consciousness works the same way by filtering out all the other potential realities making one appear more "real" than an infinite array of others.

This is how what we would interpret as "creation" occurs. Not a something from nothing type situation, but rather, the filtering out of all other potentials.


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