Surrender vs. Specific

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by cylon

Which feels more right for you?

I believe there is a part of us that fully knows what we want without our having to say so. It probably knows even BETTER what we want, than our conscious minds would, because it's not having to compete with egoic desires that on the surface sound like they'd be nice, but underneath might be based on fear or pain.

If this part of you already knows what you want, I think it would make sense to just trust that it will provide. If you have complete faith that you will get what you need in the end, and that it will be even better than your wildest dreams, then there is no need to ask.

desire in any way is fine - it's the attachment that squashes the open ended possibilities of changes.

The other approach is to be minutely specific. Don't ever stray from the conscious thought of what you want, paint the picture vividly in your mind until it is real to you, then expect to get it.

But this leaves out the possibility that something even better is on the way to you, and by being so specific you are keeping away that thing that is beyond what you can imagine right now. If you are only looking for what you are imagining, how will you know if something better has come?

it only bogs down if you keep it collapsed into a certain outcome. if the desire prompts you to visualize, than that is your way of asking or of tuning in or of desiring. after being specific, if there is a letting go of the certain outcome, then you can allow something from a bigger possibility field.

But, to go to my original point, if that part of you knew what you wanted even without asking, and was going to give it to you anyway, maybe being specific doesn't really do any damage because that wiser part of you is already aware of your lack of imagination. Is that possible?

maybe the infinite self "talks" to us by what we are prompted to desire. then we get to choose, opened desire or specific desire by our own style. but the only way to allow and accept is to get out of the way and let it be - both surrender and specific contain the letting go thing.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by JeffistheAnswer

Yes by ordinary people I mean those who don't know LoA. Sorry if it sounds degrading, ordinary people . Perhaps your could give an example from your own life of when you manifested something using this middle ground? I just want to see what it looks like.

I think better to describe it as being in the flow, no resistance but still keeping a good and strong intention, but knowing its all good.

Thats my middle ground and its weird place to be cause you notice the bigger picture changing to match how you feel inside and its the strangest thing. The things manifest during this time are subtle nuances and differences that are building to the bigger picture, I can't even begin to grasp the bigger picture. But its all happening right now.

Like lately everyone has deserted me my partner went to glasgow to work, my staff went holiday for two weeks, haven't seen my family in two weeks. Then even my dog was taken by my partner's dad, so effectively I was left alone, working alone. Its very strange and never happened like this before, on top of it all no one is even ringing me. I figure it is all happening for a reason and so don't stress it.